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 Celcom Home Fibre - 30Mbps @ RM80. Yay or Nay?, Anything on Celcom Home Fibre

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post Jun 17 2020, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(UnknownH @ Jun 17 2020, 01:41 PM)
Hi, interested in this plan as well.
1) they're riding their own fibre network?
2) any catch? Like no P2P? Throttle speed after certain quota reached? Anything?
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1) In West Malaysia, they have arrangements with TM HSBB and TNB Allo Open Network. For Sabah, Celcom has built their own open network called Celcom Timur Sabah(CTS) which covers most major cities and towns.

2) They have quite attractive plans outside TM HSBB's network if you're lucky enough to be covered by TNB's Allo or CTS Open Fibre networks. The plans offered are usually cheaper and have symmetrical speeds.However there's a drawback, they only offer CGNAT(carrier grade NAT) which is prevents you to set up CCTV or run remote services from home. Not sure if they'll provide public IPs under request.
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post Jun 18 2020, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(UnknownH @ Jun 17 2020, 10:50 PM)

Can I have my CCTV or other external devices connected to the service?
The service is compatible with selected brands and models of CCTV only. The CCTV must be compatible with a private dynamic IP and the CCTV supplier must be contacted for the configuration. For other external devices, it is necessary that they are genuine and with legal contents to ensure a seamless experience. Celcom will not be responsible for downgrading of experience if non-genuine external devices with illegal contents are used.

Thought? Sounds like can install CCTV and such.
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Private Dynamic IP = CGNAT
Most CCTV surveillance apps won't work unless you have public IP with a dynamic DNS service in place to keep track of your changing public IP.
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post Jun 18 2020, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(@POTUS @ Jun 18 2020, 03:44 PM)
My contract with unifi expiring soon, anyone here can confirm celcom fibre with CTS can torrent like unifi?
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Can torrent just like TM Unifi and and Maxis Fibre.Fixed line normally no issue unlike mobile networks which has limited radio resources to take care with.

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If you see these FDP(Fibre Distribution Point) in front of your home labelled Celcom Timur in Sabah, you're in luck.

Not only you can apply for Celcom Home Fibre, you can also apply for DiGi Home Fibre, Astro Broadband Home Fibre and also Maxis Home Fibre. Their plans are different from TM's HSBB and usually offer symmetrical speed.
Pricing is also generally cheaper.

You can subscribe for the same price of 30M for TM HSBB, Celcom Timur's wholesale is cheaper and you'll get 50/40Mbps instead.Celcom Timur network can support upto 1Gbps speed because it's newer than TM's lousy HSBB network which lack future vision.


Digi launches Home Fibre Broadband in Sabah, up to 1Gbps

https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/09/06/digi-...d-sabah-launch/

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post Jun 18 2020, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(lowck @ Jun 18 2020, 08:53 PM)
maxis fibre at sabah if coverage with tm and celcom maxis will choose TM or celcom?
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Of course Celcom's Timur network. They offer cheaper and more competitive wholesale prices.

In turn, those packages under their wholesale network such as sold by DiGi, Maxis, Astro Broadband are generally cheaper and offer higher symmetrical speeds.

DiGi is offering 1Gbps Home Fibre plans on Celcom Timur's network.
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post Jun 18 2020, 09:08 PM

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Celcom Timur Sabah Network Official Site:
https://ctsabah.com.my/ctsabah/

Digi launches Home Fibre Broadband in Sabah, up to 1Gbps
https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/09/06/digi-...d-sabah-launch/

RM199 only for 1Gbps plan
RM88-RM129 for 50M-100M

Both 50M and 100M plans are symmetrical speed for both upload/downloads.

https://web.digi.com.my/digihome/

Celcom Home Fibre for CTS

https://www.celcom.com.my/personal/broadban...lcom-home-fibre

Celcom delivers 1Gbps broadband with its own fibre network in Sabah
https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/08/26/celco...roadband-1gbps/




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post Jun 18 2020, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(lowck @ Jun 18 2020, 09:07 PM)
and not same tm infrastructure only got 28.5mbps capp right?mean can more than 30mbps
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Yes as proven here:

Average 35Mbps Down and 35Mbps Up



That's because they cap the fibre modem(ONT) profile higher to absorb the overheads giving you the speed as advertised.

TNB Allo, Celcom Timur Sabah and SACOFA(Sarawak Open Fiber Access) has better deals than TM HSBB.

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QUOTE(lowck @ Jun 18 2020, 09:17 PM)
so sad at west malaysia only can choose tm unifi TNB/TIME infra so limited
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West Malaysia also got. If your area falls under TNB(Tenaga Nasional)'s Allo Open Fibre Network which runs on electric poles or your housing area is covered by Maxis's own built NGBB fibre network.

For these areas, Maxis, Celcom or DiGi doesn't require TM's staff to install your line and provide the fibre modem(ONT).

They'll supply their own fibre modem(ONT) and routers to customers. There is no need for the TM logo fibre modem(ONT) and the ISP can choose to provide a fibre modem with built in router as single device to you for easier setup because they have full access to the open network itself.
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QUOTE(lowck @ Jun 18 2020, 10:54 PM)
can supply their own ONT if got any spoil easy to repair but at tm infra if got SLID also can change thier ONT but so hard for take SLID with TM
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Yes since it's not TM's infra, you get faster responses to repair and reports.
Maxis will directly sent their technician to your place and if needed replace the ONT themselves.

Since it's open network, ISPs have more freedom and control over their own lines.

About supplying your own ONT, they'll probably entertain business users who needs special equipment/self provided tranceiver sticks at their offices. Home users will still need to use their supplied equipment because it has to be compatible to their OLT at their exchanges.

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post Jun 18 2020, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(lowck @ Jun 18 2020, 11:05 PM)
hope tm can open their network and reduce price
i replace my alcaltel lucent I240G-T myself to huawei HG8240H only want SLID(ONT AUTHENTICATION) and TM system will auto configuration it
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TM will not open their network because it's the only money cow for them to continue forcing wholesale to other ISPs who wants to provide fixed FTTH.

Our only hope for those in West Malaysia is Tenaga Nasional's Allo to expand their open fibre network to home users as fast as possible.

Allo Technology
https://allo.my/

Only if your housing areas has a competition and a separate network other than TM HSBB then only they'll start waking up.Currently most landed housing areas have no competition for them so they start to act big.

Sadly Time has no intention to cover existing brown field landed homes area where TM has already coverage.
Only Tenaga has the resource and money to do such big expansion.

I see them already covering some areas in Cyberjaya, Jasin, Melaka and Port Dickson. Maybe will soon expand to Perak and Penang and Kedah.

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post Jun 19 2020, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(DrPitchard @ Jun 19 2020, 09:24 AM)
Allo are already in the midst of expanding to secondary towns in Perak such as Menglembu, Papan and Silibin. Likewise, in Kedah, it will be Aman Jaya and Mergong. Their intention is to cover brownfields where TM isn't present (no UniFi, but has StreamyX).

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No wonder I saw they were placing banners around and a booth at AEON Mid Town Mall, Menglembu selling Astro Home Fibre Broadband with symmetrical 50Mbps internet and IPTV for RM99 a month which is cheaper than TM HSBB standard pricing.

The banner also says "only exclusive for this area only".

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Astro Expands Its Broadband Services with Allo Partnership
http://english.astroawani.com/malaysia-new...tnership-240529

Drove around the housing and industrial area, I noticed that the TNB electricity utility poles for fibre optic cable on them with dome shaped cylinder junction boxes.

My parents home is just adjacent to the area sandwich between town, Station 18 and Menglembu. In front of my house, on the TNB electricity pole also got fibre but owned by Maxis for backhaul.

Maybe TNB Allo has big expansion plans coming for Ipoh soon hmm.gif Their state HQ for Perak is just located nearby at Jalan Lahat.

There are still many potential areas even right in the middle of Ipoh CBD such as Jalan Pasir Putih main road, many commercial shop houses still using Streamyx without fibre infra.


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post Jun 19 2020, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(junclj @ Jun 19 2020, 11:04 AM)
Celcom Fibre was initially launched from Tawau, Sabah. What I know is Celcom do not provide the username and password for user to customize or upgrade/replace to their own favorite high-end gaming routers. You have to stay with their provided router. If you really want to use your own higher-end router, you may have to setup as AP mode only.
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Do they use VLAN ID or IPoE for their fibre modems(ONT)? I heard that since its an open network, ISPs can supply their own equipment including the fibre modem/router to customers. No need TM technician to tag along and they don't require VLAN tagging just like Time Fibre.

The network is more advanced than TM HSBB as they can offer higher speed plans upto symmetrical 1Gbps.

Even their 100mbps is sold with symmetrical speed at 100mbps/100mbps.
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post Jun 19 2020, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(UnknownH @ Jun 19 2020, 02:02 PM)
But the drawback is the same like you told before, yes?
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You mean private IP or CGNAT? That depends on the ISP. With an open access network, ISPs have greater freedom to implement what they want since they're just leasing spare fibres to them.

What active equipment(OLTs, switches, edge routers/concentrators), setup style or configuration is upto the ISP.
The open network just lease the dark spare fibres for extra revenues.

For TM HSBB however their network was badly planned or executed. It is more of a partial open network where partnering ISPs who buy wholesale from them still needs to use their active equipments such as fibre modems(ONTs), FDP pole boxes, roadside FDCs, OLTs before connecting back to their own servers/edge routers.

That is why the reason Time Fibre is so against joining TM's HSBB network because they don't want to be restricted by TM's policies. One example is to be forced to use VLAN tagging. You notice that their fibre modems are easier to setup with any off the shelve routers in the market? Their configuration is simpler and similar to Streamyx no need special VLAN tagging.Any router which can do PPPoE can just hook up the ONT and will work.

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post Jun 19 2020, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(UnknownH @ Jun 19 2020, 02:31 PM)
Hopefully someone in Sabah on Celcom Timur infra could confirm the drawback.
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Drawback or not, the pros outweigh the cons for these open fibre networks which will eventually give TM a runs for its money.

Generally price for price comparison, they're cheaper with symmetrical speeds. The networks are newer allowing faster plans to be introduced.ISPs can choose not to use VLAN switching which makes it more troublesome to set up routers and IPoE instead of PPPoE. More choices of ISPs and no need to require 3rd party installer to set up the fibre modem. All can be done directly.

No need to use TM's active switching equipment or OLTs which introduces extra latency and hops.
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post Jun 22 2020, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Xanxeviera. @ Jun 22 2020, 08:31 PM)
yes, celcom in WM currently use Tm HSBB infra
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In West Malaysia, TNB is now building its open access fibre infra managed by its subsidiary Allo.
Celcom is also selling Home Fibre on their network.

Celcom had setup a booth there at their launch event.Also they have Astro, DiGi and Maxis.Got like 8 ISPs to choose from.







 

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