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 scammer refuse to honour the terms of agreement, legal professional pls help adjudicate

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post Dec 26 2019, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(kaemon @ Dec 26 2019, 12:14 PM)
oh wait this ended up in serious k  mega_shok.gif oh well i suppose i have to answer with some seriousness
judicial review dont work this way  bangwall.gif
you will need evidence to prove that you indeed went up to genting, see s. 101, 102 and 103 of Evidence Act

timid need to show, through evidence, imho, mainly 2 things, 1. there is Texas hold'em poker tables in genting (notwithstanding; (1) the possibility that there are only "Progressive Texas Hold'em Poker games" in genting based on the information made available on genting's official website, (2) that the court may take judicial notice on the fact that Texas hold'em Poker and Progressive Texas Hold'em Poker in 2 distinct game as they are general knowledge on arts and history [i think gambling is an art and part of human history] and (3) therefore both party having made a fundamental mistake as to the fact, i.e. the definition of "texas hold'em poker", the agreement/contract is void s.21 of the Contracts Act) and 2. timid's allegation that he had went up to genting, etc on evidence

all that said, agreement by way of wager like this is void and unenforceable under s.31 of the Contracts Act anyway bye.gif

while it is true that one may sue based on a promise which forms an oral agreement between parties, hence promissory estoppel, you must still show that you have suffered losses due to the promise as it is one of the key element to mount a suit based on promissory estoppel and the basic principle of evidence still need to be fulfilled
if anything I can only imagine the losses timid would have suffered is his travel expenses up to genting, which he need to prove in evidence, perhaps in form of his gps travel logs/toll payments/hotel expenses if he overnight there/etc hmm.gif
uamcy is known to be lamtin dupe, he loves to quote random legal principle online that he read somewhere and apply it to his favourable/preferred outcome

edit: hanging sentence
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kiddo, of course, my argument is based on the assumption that timidandslow can provide all the evidence. You just entered the bar 1-2 years already so cocky huh and graduated from a low tier university.

Your law firm Darryl & Loh paid you to name-calling and playing Kopitiam during office hours?

This post has been edited by uamcy: Dec 26 2019, 01:21 PM
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post Dec 26 2019, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Dec 23 2019, 02:47 PM)
lol... are you LamTin.????

Did you manage to provide proof that you went up to Genting?

Toll Receipts? TouchnGo/RFID/PayDirect receipt? Genting Parking receipt? Grab Receipt?

If you did went up, you should've had those receipts/proof on hand; else your statement shall be invalid.
EDIT: Tagging LamTin.
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bump for gantung sampai mati

owai this is serious kopitiam

i see i see... hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Dec 26 2019, 01:19 PM)
kiddo, of course, my argument is based on the assumption that timidandslow can provide all the evidence. You just entered the bar 1-2 years already so cocky huh and graduated from a low tier university.

Your law firm Darryl & Loh paid you to name-calling and playing Kopitiam during office hours?
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Based on the contract act, as kaemon pointed out, there is no case here at all.
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post Dec 26 2019, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Dec 26 2019, 01:19 PM)
kiddo, of course, my argument is based on the assumption that timidandslow can provide all the evidence. You just entered the bar 1-2 years already so cocky huh and graduated from a low tier university.

Your law firm Darryl & Loh paid you to name-calling and playing Kopitiam during office hours?
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so you're back lamtin dupe =D how are you? i remember telling you im not a lawyer and you wanted to prove it? also wtf is Darryl & Loh? got such law firm? did you found a lawyer in the MY Bar directory by the name of kaemon working at this law firm called Darryl & Loh?

also why u so triggered, I'm replying to TS' question. since you suddenly so triggered, lets discuss this matter

i can accept your assumption that timid may, to an extent provide some evidence (taking into account the position he has taken throughout this thread), sure, cause that's my point (at least the 1st half), but how are you going to go around s. 31 of CA and the difficulties in proving detriment as timid have indicated, among others, he got no toll receipt (well nowadays who pay cash at toll) and the can't be bothered to obtain the receipt online (timid if you are reading this I'm not trying to call you out for your refusal to produce these evidence, just pure for discussion with uamcy @lamtin dupe, you can refer to my long post for my honest view) cause IMHO his only detriment, if any, is the cost of travelling to Genting?
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post Dec 26 2019, 02:31 PM

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counselor, there has been a recent turn of events.
1. previously destiny has denied me payment on the basis that the table in genting is not"player vs player" texas hold em

2. now he has given the payment to another party in this thread, for rendering the exact same services that i was originally contracted to provide.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4882895

3. is this mala fide on the part of destiny? do i have just cause to claim damages?

QUOTE(destiny6 @ Dec 23 2019, 03:18 PM)
We'll start from the beginning how this happened ok?
You wanna show hand with me in poker no? I told ya...you can't coz there is no hold em there , but since you insisted it's there go ahead prove it....you wanna play a show hand with me pulak and say you are right doh.gif

Go read this:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_hold_%27em

In b4 change TnC lagi.....Damm I need search the post
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Dec 23 2019, 03:32 PM)
To be straight....how this happened is this idiot wanna show hand with me
Let the pic tell the story
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QUOTE(allee @ Dec 23 2019, 04:12 PM)
from ts statement, the bets deal only just to prove  "texas hold em poker" exist in genting casino only, and ts did approve it exist in genting casino and the other party should honor the bet. so how come how  "texas hold em poker" being play and how ts getting the prove include in the bet? maybe ts not stated the bet deals in fully here?
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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 24 2019, 11:55 AM)
counselor, please proceed to present your evidence of:

1    accepted the terms of the agreement;
2    detailed all of the essential terms in the agreement;
3    exchanged promises;
4    the capacity to consent; and
5    an intention to form legal relations.

dismissed till next hearing.
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QUOTE(uamcy @ Dec 26 2019, 01:19 PM)
kiddo, of course, my argument is based on the assumption that timidandslow can provide all the evidence. You just entered the bar 1-2 years already so cocky huh and graduated from a low tier university.

Your law firm Darryl & Loh paid you to name-calling and playing Kopitiam during office hours?
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This post has been edited by timidandslow: Dec 26 2019, 02:41 PM
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post Dec 26 2019, 02:54 PM

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Dude should have just said he drove moto up, thus no TNG receipt. Should have ask me how to bluff lolll
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post Dec 26 2019, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(kaemon @ Dec 26 2019, 02:44 PM)
No, I do not have any concrete evidence to say you are lamtin dupe, you are absolutely right, what I have is as much as you have that I'm a lawyer that work in Darryl & Loh and Darryl & Loh is a real law firm  rclxm9.gif

also how "uamcy" would have known what is my profession?

Sorry, I don't work in a law firm, as I have repeatedly told lamtin. (a dupe of lamtin that have ceased to be online) before, so I can't check for you what "my firm" charge for a tort case, perhaps this is more helpful than asking me - https://www.malaysianbar.org.my/list/find/l...rsonal-injuries

I have to keep my reply serious, this is serious /k
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Lol, you don't understand me. I don't go for a losing battle. I won't take my future clients for a ride.

When I've said something, it means I can prove it.

So you really want me to prove that you are an associate from Darryl & Loh?

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post Dec 26 2019, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Dec 26 2019, 02:55 PM)
Lol, you don't understand me. I don't go for a losing battle. I won't take my future clients for a ride.

When I've said something, it means I can prove it.

So you really want me to prove that you are an associate from Darryl & Loh?
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i think the 1st point is to show that there is a firm called Darryl & Loh?
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post Dec 26 2019, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(kaemon @ Dec 26 2019, 12:14 PM)
oh wait this ended up in serious k  mega_shok.gif oh well i suppose i have to answer with some seriousness
judicial review dont work this way  bangwall.gif
you will need evidence to prove that you indeed went up to genting, see s. 101, 102 and 103 of Evidence Act

timid need to show, through evidence, imho, mainly 2 things, 1. there is Texas hold'em poker tables in genting (notwithstanding; (1) the possibility that there are only "Progressive Texas Hold'em Poker games" in genting based on the information made available on genting's official website, (2) that the court may take judicial notice on the fact that Texas hold'em Poker and Progressive Texas Hold'em Poker in 2 distinct game as they are general knowledge on arts and history [i think gambling is an art and part of human history] and (3) therefore both party having made a fundamental mistake as to the fact, i.e. the definition of "texas hold'em poker", the agreement/contract is void s.21 of the Contracts Act) and 2. timid's allegation that he had went up to genting, etc on evidence

all that said, agreement by way of wager like this is void and unenforceable under s.31 of the Contracts Act anyway bye.gif

while it is true that one may sue based on a promise which forms an oral agreement between parties, hence promissory estoppel, you must still show that you have suffered losses due to the promise as it is one of the key element to mount a suit based on promissory estoppel and the basic principle of evidence still need to be fulfilled
if anything I can only imagine the losses timid would have suffered is his travel expenses up to genting, which he need to prove in evidence, perhaps in form of his gps travel logs/toll payments/hotel expenses if he overnight there/etc hmm.gif
uamcy is known to be lamtin dupe, he loves to quote random legal principle online that he read somewhere and apply it to his favourable/preferred outcome

edit: hanging sentence
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O wise one, what is your view on recent turn of events.

1. previously destiny has denied me payment on the basis that the table in genting is not"player vs player" texas hold em

2. now he has given the payment to another party in this thread, for rendering the exact same services that i was originally contracted to provide.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4882895

3. is this mala fide on the part of destiny? do i have just cause to claim damages?

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post Dec 26 2019, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(kaemon @ Dec 26 2019, 02:56 PM)
i think the 1st point is to show that there is a firm called Darryl & Loh?
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I thought you have already acknowledged that Darryl & Loh is a legit law firm?

So how? You really want me to prove it with evidence only you won't be lying that you are not an associate from Darryl & Loh?
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post Dec 26 2019, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(timidandslow @ Dec 26 2019, 03:01 PM)
O wise one,  what is your view on recent turn of events.

1. previously destiny has denied me payment on the basis that the table in genting is not"player vs player" texas hold em

2. now he has given the payment to another party in this thread, for rendering the exact same services that i was originally contracted to provide.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4882895

3. is this mala fide on the part of destiny? do i have just cause to claim damages?
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firstly, I'm flattered that you call me a wise one, for I'm just a layperson lurking around kopitiam to pass time that so happen read some law - not because I was charged in court though

1. well there is a clear distinction on the definition of the subject matter of the agreement here as to what constitute "texas hold em poker", i think the agreement becomes void under s.21 of the Contracts Act for both parties was mistaken as to the matter of fact (I could be wrong here)

2. even if he did give another person on the same wager, its an entirely different agreement (putting aside the legality of such wager agreement), you are not privy to said agreement so i dont think it will help your case much

3. I don't think there is element of mala fide. Your wager agreement with destiny6 is void under s.31 of the Contracts Act, if anything you can claim for restitution (i think) but you will need to show the your expenses incurred (loss@damages) from the transaction - not receiving the 5k does not constitute damages. Damages here would be for example your cost of travelling to Genting and maybe hotel to overnight cause you went up, expenses incurred due to the wager your have with destiny6. So what damages did you suffer? you have to show some evidence for this

personally, due to the illegality of the agreement under contracts act, i dont think you got a case here mate
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post Dec 26 2019, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Dec 26 2019, 03:08 PM)
I thought you have already acknowledged that Darryl & Loh is a legit law firm?

So how? You really want me to prove it with evidence only you won't be lying that you are not an associate from Darryl & Loh?
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sorry I'm confused, have I ever said Darryl & Loh is a legit law firm? please remind me, I couldn't have claim Darryl & Loh exist when they don't, could you kindly point to me where I have said so?
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post Dec 26 2019, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(kaemon @ Dec 26 2019, 03:15 PM)
sorry I'm confused, have I ever said Darryl & Loh is a legit law firm? please remind me, I couldn't have claim Darryl & Loh exist when they don't, could you kindly point to me where I have said so?
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This one. Just a simple search will do.

So how? You really want me to prove it with evidence only you won't be lying that you are not an associate from Darryl & Loh?

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Dec 26 2019, 03:24 PM)
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This one. Just a simple search will do.

So how? You really want me to prove it with evidence only you won't be lying that you are not an associate from Darryl & Loh?
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Raja, Darryl & Loh

vs

Darryl & Loh



Yup, lamtin all right...
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post Dec 26 2019, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Dec 26 2019, 03:24 PM)
user posted image

This one. Just a simple search will do.

So how? You really want me to prove it with evidence only you won't be lying that you are not an associate from Darryl & Loh?
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Dec 26 2019, 03:29 PM)
Raja, Darryl & Loh

vs

Darryl & Loh
Yup, lamtin all right...
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bigwolf thanks for saying it for me thumbup.gif

Darryl & Loh is totally Raja, Darryl & Loh doh.gif
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post Dec 26 2019, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(kaemon @ Dec 26 2019, 04:20 PM)
Thanks for clearing out that I don't work there. I also found "Tung Tze Tzing" at the law firm website. I'm kaemon, not Tung Tze Tzing.

Also, lets not screw around here, its serious /k and its not even your thread.
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Who trolling first by claiming I am lamtin without evidence? If you did nothing wrong, why are you afraid to even admit your real name? Where is your integrity?
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post Dec 26 2019, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(uamcy @ Dec 26 2019, 04:22 PM)
Who trolling first by claiming I am lamtin without evidence? If you did nothing wrong, why are you afraid to even admit your real name? Where is your integrity?
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I'm one of them, but definitely not the 1st in this thread nod.gif

likewise you can't prove who kaemon is irl, whatever you say is merely hearsay saje, perhaps i got no integrity, but why do you even care someone online got integrity or not whistling.gif

QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Dec 23 2019, 07:47 PM)
Do you know who else frequently uses these words?

LamTin.

Conlan79firm, TS is LamTin. dupe replying!

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Btw, TS you still couldn't prove to us with traveling receipts that you drove up to Genting.

Pictures can be fakes, and for all we know, you could've took the photo from other Resort World Genting / Took the photo at a different time / Download from the internet / Photo from 3rd Party.

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Like I said, go up, take pic with your username, time stamp and the texas sign board to settle this case.
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post Dec 26 2019, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(kaemon @ Dec 26 2019, 04:27 PM)
I'm one of them, but definitely not the 1st in this thread  nod.gif

likewise you can't prove who kaemon is irl, whatever you say is merely hearsay saje, perhaps i got no integrity, but why do you even care someone online got integrity or not  whistling.gif
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still want to lie huh?

QUOTE(kaemon @ Aug 29 2019, 10:14 AM)
ex-public uni law grad here, now working in one of the mentioned law firm by one of the /k

in my place, we generally prefer foreign grads. however we do have local grad from public uni working as lawyers (lets forget about pupillage, anyone with half a brain can get into anywhere for pupillage) besides UUM right now, i myself came from a what i would call the real lower spectrum of local uni in malaysia XD most of the lawyers (also pupils) are from overseas and UOL external
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You revealed it yourself who you are and graduated from which university Mr Tung. Unlike you accused me without any solid evidence.

This post has been edited by uamcy: Dec 26 2019, 04:31 PM

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