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 Xbox Series X, The next Xbox generation

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yoyoi
post Oct 1 2020, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(Wijjog @ Sep 30 2020, 11:40 PM)
Change if youre gonna game on 4k smile.gif
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QUOTE(tripleB @ Sep 30 2020, 11:46 PM)
Depends on what your setup is. Since both will be able to run the same games on Series X up to 120fps, it won't be like the Xbox One X vs One S. The One X actually performs better than the One S.

If you're going to be using it with a 1440p monitor, then the Series S makes perfect sense. If you have a 1080p TV, the Series S still makes sense. But if you have a 4K TV, I would choose the Series X. Not only for Series X games, but also for some other enhancements like old Xbox games, where they can run on One X enhanced mode (4K resolution, better frame rates).
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Thinking about 4k tv too. Heard that if that 4k tv do not support hdmi 2.1, it will not fully utilise series x & ps5 capabilities and currently only flagship model had hdmi 2.1.
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post Oct 1 2020, 08:30 AM

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i choose Series X even though i only had 1080p TV, i have plans for 4k upgrade in future. even if i didnt, sure hope i can do 1080p 120fps with games i played tongue.gif

This post has been edited by IccyAsd: Oct 1 2020, 08:31 AM
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post Oct 1 2020, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Sep 30 2020, 07:58 PM)
Dolby Atmos is actually just software support built into the device. There's no such thing as a headphone with Dolby Atmos hardware in the first place.

You can buy 'Dolby Atmos for headphones' app in the Microsoft store. I've bought it personally, so I know it's actually worth it. You just put on any normal wired headphones to the Xbox controller, select Dolby Atmos for Headphones and you're good to go. Of course a good pair of headphones will give better results.
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Most probably have to change the Soundbar then - can't sit too near the TV with wired headphones (I only have wired now) tongue.gif


QUOTE(yoyoi @ Oct 1 2020, 08:25 AM)
Thinking about 4k tv too. Heard that if that 4k tv do not support hdmi 2.1, it will not fully utilise series x & ps5 capabilities and currently only flagship model had hdmi 2.1.
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Yeah, I bought a new TV 2 weeks ago solely for this purpose - 4K120fps / HDMI 2.1 innocent.gif
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post Oct 1 2020, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Sep 30 2020, 11:46 PM)
Depends on what your setup is. Since both will be able to run the same games on Series X up to 120fps, it won't be like the Xbox One X vs One S. The One X actually performs better than the One S.

If you're going to be using it with a 1440p monitor, then the Series S makes perfect sense. If you have a 1080p TV, the Series S still makes sense. But if you have a 4K TV, I would choose the Series X. Not only for Series X games, but also for some other enhancements like old Xbox games, where they can run on One X enhanced mode (4K resolution, better frame rates).
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Much of my old 360 collection is still on disc so will be getting the series x for the drive and BC. I think if you're not budget dependent you might as well just get the series x, it'll be worth it in the long run.

QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Oct 1 2020, 08:30 AM)
i choose Series X even though i only had 1080p TV, i have plans for 4k upgrade in future. even if i didnt, sure hope i can do 1080p 120fps with games i played tongue.gif
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This is basically me - 10 year old Bravia still going strong
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post Oct 1 2020, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(yoyoi @ Oct 1 2020, 08:25 AM)
Thinking about 4k tv too. Heard that if that 4k tv do not support hdmi 2.1, it will not fully utilise series x & ps5 capabilities and currently only flagship model had hdmi 2.1.
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The way I see it is that you have several options:

1. Future proof option: Get the series x and upgrade to 4k 120hz tv later

2. More budget friendly option: Get the series s and game on 1440p 144hz gaming monitor

It depends on how you like to game (tv vs monitor) and how much you are willing to spend.

If you prefer to game on a 4k tv, I think it wouldn’t hurt to game on the series x even if it’s a 60hz panel


Edit: Also depends on what games you play. If you are into online shooters like cod then getting a high refresh panel is recommended.

If not then playing on 60hz is more than enough I think

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post Oct 1 2020, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 1 2020, 10:37 AM)
Most probably have to change the Soundbar then - can't sit too near the TV with wired headphones (I only have wired now)  tongue.gif
Yeah, I bought a new TV 2 weeks ago solely for this purpose - 4K120fps / HDMI 2.1  innocent.gif
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I'm using wired headphones bro. But not connecting to the TV or amp. I'm connecting it via 3.5mm jack on the Xbox controller. And we can still make use of Dolby Atmos. It's quite practical to me. I can still play further from the TV and still use wired headphones.
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post Oct 1 2020, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Oct 1 2020, 10:38 AM)
Much of my old 360 collection is still on disc so will be getting the series x for the drive and BC.  I think if you're not budget dependent you might as well just get the series x, it'll be worth it in the long run.
This is basically me - 10 year old Bravia still going strong
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I also have way too many games on disc, which is actually my main reason choosing Series X. I do own lots of digital games, but I don't get rid of old games most of the time.
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post Oct 1 2020, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(yoyoi @ Oct 1 2020, 08:25 AM)
Thinking about 4k tv too. Heard that if that 4k tv do not support hdmi 2.1, it will not fully utilise series x & ps5 capabilities and currently only flagship model had hdmi 2.1.
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Well a lot of the newer tech requires new hardware. I only recently got a nice 144Hz, Freesync/Gsync monitor, and I do like the high refresh rate on games. Games feel snappier and smoother. And now consoles will finally get the same tech.

I probably need to get a HDMI 2.1 capable TV too. But next only I think. This year is burning a hole in my wallet! I got an RTX 3080, already PO the Series X. The TV can wait. It's not like we are going to see a high end 120fps game too soon on Xbox. Old games and ports don't count.
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post Oct 2 2020, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Oct 1 2020, 02:20 PM)
I'm using wired headphones bro. But not connecting to the TV or amp. I'm connecting it via 3.5mm jack on the Xbox controller. And we can still make use of Dolby Atmos. It's quite practical to me. I can still play further from the TV and still use wired headphones.
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I see, never thought that'll work, thanks for the heads up.

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post Oct 2 2020, 10:44 AM

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I have a Sony TV with a "Motion Flow 100hz" panel.
Does this means it can go up to 100fps?
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post Oct 2 2020, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(victorr @ Oct 2 2020, 10:44 AM)
I have a Sony TV with a "Motion Flow 100hz" panel.
Does this means it can go up to 100fps?
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Nope.

You need HDMI 2.1 compatible tv and VRR to achieve 120fps.
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post Oct 2 2020, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 2 2020, 02:15 PM)
Nope.

You need HDMI 2.1 compatible tv and VRR to achieve 120fps.
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Not even at 1080P?
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QUOTE(victorr @ Oct 2 2020, 03:10 PM)
Not even at 1080P?
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If you have a 1080p tv, should be no problem.

But for frame-rate, might be around 30/60. Better to refer to your tv model / specification.
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post Oct 2 2020, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(yoyoi @ Oct 1 2020, 08:25 AM)
Thinking about 4k tv too. Heard that if that 4k tv do not support hdmi 2.1, it will not fully utilise series x & ps5 capabilities and currently only flagship model had hdmi 2.1.
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becos there are games that definintely can go 4k 120fps, i saw ori and the wisp or watever the name of the game is can do that, if ur tv cannot hdmi 2.1 then cannot. 1080p 120fps not sure need which hdmi version.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 2 2020, 03:23 PM)
If you have a 1080p tv, should be no problem.

But for frame-rate, might be around 30/60. Better to refer to your tv model / specification.
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kdl-40r350c. Sony. TV sticker says 100hz motion
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post Oct 2 2020, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(victorr @ Oct 2 2020, 03:27 PM)
kdl-40r350c. Sony. TV sticker says 100hz motion
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u take the manual out, then u see supported refresh rate then u can knwo oledi lo.. 100hz motion is motion interpolation up to 100hz, FAKE refresh rate.
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post Oct 2 2020, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 2 2020, 03:32 PM)
u take the manual out, then u see supported refresh rate then u can knwo oledi lo.. 100hz motion is motion interpolation up to 100hz, FAKE refresh rate.
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I think so. Most probably fake 120hz. Means need to buy new TV yawn.gif
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post Oct 2 2020, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(victorr @ Oct 2 2020, 03:39 PM)
I think so. Most probably fake 120hz. Means need to buy new TV  yawn.gif
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yup fake one. motion interpolation. 1080p 120hz need hdmi 2.0 tho. suggest u buy new 4k tv bro. long term investment and u can enjoy more.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 2 2020, 03:53 PM)
yup fake one. motion interpolation. 1080p 120hz need hdmi 2.0 tho. suggest u buy new 4k tv bro. long term investment and u can enjoy more.
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I will probably get a 120/144hz monitor and Series S. Since I game in same room as PC.
Seldom turn on TV, thought I could make more use of it hehe

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