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post Nov 6 2019, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Wackamancer @ Nov 6 2019, 09:09 AM)
Thought our salary is confidential ...how come one call to HR can find out so easily..lol...
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It isnt. You won't believe how many HR dept I managed to call to verify salary slips as part of a loan application process. Its surprisingly easy to check.

If you are government, even wose. There is a simple hack you can do on the ANM website with just the applicant's IC to log into their akaun to see their salary slip. My former company did this so openly.
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post Nov 6 2019, 10:07 PM

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I think its better to tell the truth . HR can find out easily if you are lying .
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post Nov 7 2019, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(Ares187 @ Nov 6 2019, 10:07 PM)
I think its better to tell the truth . HR can find out easily if you are lying .
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The truth and nothing but the truth.

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post Nov 7 2019, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Nov 5 2019, 09:05 PM)
They will find out you lied about your previous salary.

How?

Your IC.

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All employers is required to contribute to the employee's EPF, about 11-12% (or more) from your basic salary.

Thus, with your IC number, they are able to retrieve your monthly/yearly EPF statement from the KWSP Portal, and calculate your monthly basic.

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How I know? Because I kantoi the candidates I've interviewed; right on the spot.

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You. Are. Screwed.

If you're hired, the company have the grounds to dismiss you and potentially sue you for fraud.

If you're an interviewee, consider yourself lucky that they won't contact you for future opportunity, if found guilty.
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lol, I edit my last drawn payslip & the epf statement too tongue.gif
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post Nov 8 2019, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(Wackamancer @ Nov 5 2019, 08:45 PM)
I lie about my last drawn salary, tempered the payslip, will HR find out? How?
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If they check your EPF habis GG
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post Nov 8 2019, 08:59 AM

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Companies are able to get your past info if so want so.
Most application form would include a tnc saying "employment subject to passing background check"

When they mean background check is
There are 3rd party agencies that can get these information regarding your past, your criminal record, your last drawn pay, or epf. Etc.

When I was applying for Intel , I waited 2 weeks for them to clear my background check status.
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post Nov 8 2019, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Nov 8 2019, 08:59 AM)
Companies are able to get your past info if so want so.
Most application form would include a tnc saying "employment subject to passing background check"

When they mean background check is
There are 3rd party agencies that can get these information regarding your past, your criminal record, your last drawn pay, or epf. Etc.


When I was applying for Intel , I waited 2 weeks for them to clear my background check status.
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I also want to know which 3rd party agencies.
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post Nov 8 2019, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 8 2019, 09:05 AM)
I also want to know which 3rd party agencies.
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I never had to use 3rd party checks. Our HR is competent enough to conduct our own background checks.

From this we find out that a large majority of resumes we receive are embellished or contain false claims or material omissions. All these are considered fraud.

In a few cases, we summarily dismiss staff after discovering the fraud.




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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Nov 8 2019, 09:25 AM)
I never had to use 3rd party checks.  Our HR is competent enough to conduct our own background checks.

From this we find out that a large majority of resumes we receive are embellished or contain false claims or material omissions.  All these are considered fraud.

In a few cases, we summarily dismiss staff after discovering the fraud.
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post Nov 8 2019, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Nov 6 2019, 07:38 PM)
Due diligence and discipline is the key.

Whether you're running your own company (SME or MNC), it pays to learn and adapt procedures from larger and more successful MNC.

HR is a fine balance between taking care of the welfare of the staff and the cost/performance to the company.
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Lol.

HR is just a cost centre. Nothing more, nothing less.
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post Nov 8 2019, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Wackamancer @ Nov 5 2019, 08:45 PM)
I lie about my last drawn salary, tempered the payslip, will HR find out? How?
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Lie is good, your opportunity shall be given to others.
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post Nov 8 2019, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Nov 8 2019, 09:25 AM)
I never had to use 3rd party checks.  Our HR is competent enough to conduct our own background checks.

From this we find out that a large majority of resumes we receive are embellished or contain false claims or material omissions.  All these are considered fraud.

In a few cases, we summarily dismiss staff after discovering the fraud.
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A fraud yes it is. If someone lie, then its good for next candidate in line.
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post Nov 8 2019, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(hft @ Nov 8 2019, 10:44 AM)
A fraud yes it is. If someone lie, then its good for next candidate in line.
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You're right.
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post Nov 8 2019, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE($kidzl @ Nov 8 2019, 10:40 AM)
Lol.

HR is just a cost centre. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Why'd you think that HR is "just a cost centre"?

You had bad experience with your HR department?
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post Nov 8 2019, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Nov 8 2019, 11:28 AM)
Why'd you think that HR is "just a cost centre"?

You had bad experience with your HR department?
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Just calling a spade, a spade bro.

How is HR not a cost centre?
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post Nov 8 2019, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Nov 5 2019, 08:52 PM)
It's not a lie if you are not caught
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Like our politician laugh.gif
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post Nov 8 2019, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE($kidzl @ Nov 8 2019, 11:36 AM)
Just calling a spade, a spade bro.

How is HR not a cost centre?
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How do you relate HR to being a cost centre?
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post Nov 8 2019, 12:14 PM

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My current and past company used ADP and HireRight for background check. Passed the check d only will get offer letter.
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post Nov 8 2019, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 8 2019, 09:05 AM)
I also want to know which 3rd party agencies.
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i had experience with first advantage. but depending on position that u are taking on.

if normal exec , just checking if you have criminical records, checking any database available. nothing fancy. if nothing trigger they just let u pass
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post Nov 8 2019, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE($kidzl @ Nov 8 2019, 10:40 AM)
Lol.

HR is just a cost centre. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Humbly disagree.



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