I lie about my last drawn salary, tempered the payslip, will HR find out? How?

It's not a lie if you are not caught

Liar is a liar and irreversible. If get cough your career is over in that company.

You're assuming HR is still wet behind the ears.

They will find out you lied about your previous salary.

How?

Your IC.

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All employers is required to contribute to the employee's EPF, about 11-12% (or more) from your basic salary.

Thus, with your IC number, they are able to retrieve your monthly/yearly EPF statement from the KWSP Portal, and calculate your monthly basic.

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How I know? Because I kantoi the candidates I've interviewed; right on the spot.

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You. Are. Screwed.

If you're hired, the company have the grounds to dismiss you and potentially sue you for fraud.

If you're an interviewee, consider yourself lucky that they won't contact you for future opportunity, if found guilty.

This post has been edited by LarryPizzaGuy: Nov 5 2019, 09:05 PM

An employer can do that?

Once I hired a candidate after he gave me a copy of his last drawn salary. I gave him the required addition on top of his old salary.

He worked for almost one month.

All was fine and dandy until I began to have suspicions and faxed the salary slip to the HR of his former company and asked them to authenticate the payslip.

They came back to me and declared the payslip to be false.

This employee was called in and to cut the story short promptly fired for fraud without compensation. His employment was annulled.

So TS, for the rest of your employment you will work under the shadow of summary dismissal without compensation.

Nah, we don't need to do this. A call to the former employer would suffice.

Easy.

Larry, ts mentioned he lied. U also want to lie?

Will I be able to check ah heng ali and muthu salary if just input their ic?

Should never lied even if you think your last drawn salary is underpaid.
They can easily contact your previous company to validate the payslip.

Not sure about EPF but other agencies like RAM do sell these info, however employer/companies not allowed to do that unless u gave signed permission.

Thought our salary is confidential ...how come one call to HR can find out so easily..lol...

HR abit lazy right...should check everything and make clear before the hiring.

there was once i lied about my past position to get a job in my current company.....i got the job and still working here for few months already...

While it's true there are ways for HR to find out, I'd also point out that most don't even bother authenticating salary slips unless they look unbelievably fake/tempered. HR tends to be inclined to give benefit of doubt, which should work to your favour.

If it's too late to come clean already, eg. you started the job then you might as well do your best work there and be prepared to have plans b or c for the one day you are discovered.

Either be insanely good at your job and indispensable to the point that the company won't be able to fire you even if they have the grounds for it (say, you are a big rain-maker). Or work an absolute minimum of 1.5-2 years and then jump. And never ever do this again.

So do HR really wants to authenticate the payslip if another company fax them "hey is this payslip genuine or fake?"

What the normal procedure if you are HR and you received such requests to authenticate.

I bet HR could just ignore it as spam?

dont bother

if they want u in the 1st place the will negotiate regardless of your payslip

Can't blame HR. The payslip looked genuine at first glance. Little do we know it's falsified.

When we dismissed the employee, we didn't even pay him his salary amounting to 3k+.

We regularly cooperate with other companies on the job performance and pay of our former employees.

No issue at all.

I lied about my height and weight......
no dare to lie on my previous job salary tho