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post Nov 6 2019, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Nov 6 2019, 01:18 PM)
Both EPF and Pay Slip are P&C.

However, employers have the right to request for either both to justify providing the hiring employee their new pay.

EPF is more "secure" and less prone to be manipulated.

Much like applying for credit card, the bank will request for your EPF/Income Tax Receipt/Pay Slip to verify that you've met the annual income for the credit card.
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kekekeke request from candidate is it?? say properly lah.


Anyway wtf would i need to justify my previous salary? If the company thinks im not fit for my requested salary then by all means dont farking hire me.
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 6 2019, 01:19 PM)
First say, can access epf.

Now this?

Make up your mind.
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I did.

Apparently you didn't read my statement and comprehend correctly.

Please go back and read carefully; then come back and edit your post.
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post Nov 6 2019, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Nov 6 2019, 01:22 PM)
kekekeke request from candidate is it?? say properly lah.
Anyway wtf would i need to justify my previous salary? If the company thinks im not fit for my requested salary then by all means dont farking hire me.
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Push and Pull.

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Why demand RM10,000 if the company thinks you're only worth RM6,000?

Would you wanna work for them?

Do you think your demanded salary of RM10,000 is "justified"?

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Its all about how you negotiate your salary; everything must have base and fact; not numbers being plucked out from the sky.
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post Nov 6 2019, 01:39 PM

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all ppl here just guessing HR will check epf....any real HR here can tell us what is the real deal? and how exactly they do that?

epf statement can also easily tempered because u can save it in PDF then use PDF editor to change the value...
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post Nov 6 2019, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(jd4eva @ Nov 6 2019, 01:39 PM)
all ppl here just guessing HR will check epf....any real HR here can tell us what is the real deal? and how exactly they do that?

epf statement can also easily tempered because u can save it in PDF then use PDF editor to change the value...
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The real deal is when applicant's info creates doubts.
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post Nov 6 2019, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 6 2019, 01:47 PM)
The real deal is when applicant's info creates doubts.
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Yes.

In my experience as HR for so many years, I have seen a lot.

Fake MC, fake salary claim, fake claims.

Sighhh...



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post Nov 6 2019, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Nov 6 2019, 01:18 PM)
Both EPF and Pay Slip are P&C.

However, employers have the right to request for either both to justify providing the hiring employee their new pay.

EPF is more "secure" and less prone to be manipulated.

Much like applying for credit card, the bank will request for your EPF/Income Tax Receipt/Pay Slip to verify that you've met the annual income for the credit card.
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So u obtained these things 'on the spot' just like your cool story?
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post Nov 6 2019, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Nov 6 2019, 07:31 AM)
Larry, ts mentioned he lied. U also want to lie?

Will I be able to check ah heng ali and muthu salary if just input their ic?
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QUOTE(Wackamancer @ Nov 6 2019, 09:09 AM)
Thought our salary is confidential ...how come one call to HR can find out so easily..lol...
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The signing of PDPA form during interview session means you already gave the rights for the potential hiring company to check on all the details you provided. They are "forcing" you to show your cards while they keep theirs, a.k.a hold the rights to investigate if they deemed the documents you provided are falsified.

then I suppose only Larry's story kick in, to request from KWSP/EPF for your slips or elsewhere I have no idea.
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Nov 6 2019, 02:56 PM)
The signing of PDPA form during interview session means you already gave the rights for the potential hiring company to check on all the details you provided. They are "forcing" you to show your cards while they keep theirs, a.k.a hold the rights to investigate if they deemed the documents you provided are falsified.

then I suppose only Larry's story kick in, to request from KWSP/EPF for your slips or elsewhere I have no idea.
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post Nov 6 2019, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(feekle @ Nov 6 2019, 02:31 PM)
So u obtained these things 'on the spot' just like your cool story?
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It is a cool story 'cuz I kantoi those candidates with those info on the spot.
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post Nov 6 2019, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Nov 6 2019, 01:11 PM)
whistling.gif  whistling.gif  EPF don't lie bruh.
Hiring companies have the right to request for your EPF statement instead of your Monthly pay slip (which can be manipulated, just like TS).
Are you implying that it is "just" to falsify your payslip to future employer?

How is it criminal for an employer to conduct background checks on employee to ensure that the candidate is suited for the company?

To root out the ill behaved employees who could potentially damage the reputation of the company.

Is it criminal?
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Bullshit, stop lying

EPF will not release your account details without your approva

You just caught red handed "kantoi" BS story.

No, I don't need to lie, I just don't give my number. Which part I said I lie?

Im referring to your BS criminal offence of trying to create a fake story.
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QUOTE(feekle @ Nov 6 2019, 02:31 PM)
So u obtained these things 'on the spot' just like your cool story?
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Typical kuda scam story.

LOL
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post Nov 6 2019, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Nov 6 2019, 04:08 PM)
Bullshit, stop lying

EPF will not release your account details without your approva

You just caught red handed "kantoi" BS story.

No, I don't need to lie, I just don't give my number. Which part I said I lie?

Im referring to your BS criminal offence of trying to create a fake story.
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I strongly suggest you read back what I wrote properly.

This shows that you have never read through my post properly, but decided take things out of context to reply accordingly; a short sighted minded person.

Sounds like you're the type of person who fakes his pay slip; thus trying to justify yourself that employers cannot kanoi cheaters.


EDIT: Grammar and context.

This post has been edited by LarryPizzaGuy: Nov 6 2019, 05:01 PM
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post Nov 6 2019, 05:01 PM

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pretty sure someone did falsified and get away with it..
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post Nov 6 2019, 05:12 PM

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d*mn, u guys sound like yall frm big big company where there is a dedicated HR dept for it.. d*mn, me small fly company have like no have, just a name only.
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QUOTE(ben_ang @ Nov 6 2019, 05:12 PM)
d*mn, u guys sound like yall frm big big company where there is a dedicated HR dept for it.. d*mn, me small fly company have like no have, just a name only.
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My company also quite small.
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post Nov 6 2019, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(LarryPizzaGuy @ Nov 6 2019, 03:08 PM)
It is a cool story 'cuz I kantoi those candidates with those info on the spot.
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How do u obtain those info on the spot then? U have the EPF account id & password of the user? Or even the company? We're all interested to know cos its a confidential info. Til then we call ur story a certified BS one.

This post has been edited by feekle: Nov 6 2019, 07:09 PM
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post Nov 6 2019, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(feekle @ Nov 6 2019, 07:07 PM)
How do u obtain those info on the spot then? U have the EPF account id & password of the user? Or even the company? We're all interested to know cos its a confidential info. Til then we call ur story a certified BS one.
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Instead of me spoon feeding you with the answer.

Why don't you (be rajin sikit, doesn't cost you a few clicks) read back at my previous post? I did explain there no?

You can speculate all you want, I will you tell you the same answer that I've wrote in my previous post.

All I can see is that there are users here who are (sort-of) buta huruf. Only see things they want to see.
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QUOTE(ben_ang @ Nov 6 2019, 05:12 PM)
d*mn, u guys sound like yall frm big big company where there is a dedicated HR dept for it.. d*mn, me small fly company have like no have, just a name only.
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Due diligence and discipline is the key.

Whether you're running your own company (SME or MNC), it pays to learn and adapt procedures from larger and more successful MNC.

HR is a fine balance between taking care of the welfare of the staff and the cost/performance to the company.

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