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TSprelude23
post Nov 10 2019, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 10 2019, 06:27 PM)
A meal together sounds good. Haha. I recently however just moved back to Penang, but do visit KL from time to time. So we'll see how things goes.

I do agree to hope for the best & prepare for the worst. Just try your best.  smile.gif
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Ok bro. Sure thing. Thanks for being here.

So just now, I told her my dog passed away and managed to talk to her on the phone. I think she also soften her heart to talk to me and we managed to talk for an hour. We talk about our problems and struggle together in a very civil manner. Then towards the end, she said she felt angry as the longer she talked to me. Toxic thought slowly crept into her mind and she start asking about the other girl. She said she kept thinking we had something physical in the past. I said no we did not. And she said she doesn't wanna be toxic and say all these things. She said she doesn't know what identity she should play while listening to my problem. She doesn't wanna be responsible towards my problem since we already broke up. I ask her what toxic thought is on her mind and share it to me. Don't suppress everything to herself. She was struggling to tell me. Then I told her to get a nice shower first and we continue to talk again later. Hopefully will go well.
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post Nov 11 2019, 02:36 AM

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After that we managed to talk a while more. She seemed better after shower and she doesnt want to talk about the toxic thoughts. I told her she might feel better after letting it out. So she told me when she see other girls in yoga, she felt that I would prefer each one of them more than her. It was her self esteem being crushed by me. I told her nope it wasnt the case. I assure her telling her I am still here for her and reminded how I chased her for 3 years and our relationship was special cause it involved God in between. My other relationship werent like that. Then we talk about how I never thought of settling down but I let her know I thought of it every single day. However, I just quit my job and started my own business so I was feeling very insecure about my finances. Hopefully all these are enough to reassure her and reaffirm her my intention. Really pray she can put this mistake behind her after a period of time.

Sigh, some mistake you carry them into the grave with you.
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post Nov 11 2019, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 11 2019, 09:55 AM)
Seems like you are on the right track. Very much agree with you that both of you need to talk about it, let it out and don't bottle it up. She may sound toxic but maybe that is just jealously perhaps?

Not sure whether u done this already or not, and not sure whether it will ultimately help or hinder things.. but I would suggest you to really really be frank and share with her how you ended up making your mistake and what caused it. I hope that this would at least let her understand your side of the situation and the underlying conditions that may have nudge you to do what you did.

The above might also help prevent her from generating wild theories inside her head as to why you did what u did, because she would know why u did it instead of imagining you did it because you find others more attractive than her for example.

And yes.. Some mistakes you cant really correct and make right again. We all learn this the hard way, but we do our best to overcome it and be a better person at the end of the ordeal. Stay strong my friend. You can do it. smile.gif
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Not jealousy. She has toxic thoughts but she is not being toxic. Toxic thoughts due to the loss in trust and self esteem. Like she will think badly about me, fooling her in this relationship, taking advantage of her all these things. Another toxic thoughts is like she said she think I had physical relationship with this girl before which I did not.

Yes I have shared with her how did I make this mistake and fully own up to my mistake.

I know I gotta learn the hard way I know I need to be a better person. I was so close to the finishing line and why do I fell and did what I do. It's very hard to get over what I did.
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post Nov 11 2019, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(leah235 @ Nov 11 2019, 11:00 AM)
wait wait.
she never have lust for other guy?
I mean, that's more normal.

why the issue keep on pressuring you have cheong with other girl?
Did you?
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No I did not cheong with that other girl.

She never lust towards other guy as well. She's very disciplined in this. She doesnt even follow like celebs in social media or what.
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post Nov 11 2019, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 11 2019, 10:43 AM)
i understand how you feel... i did a lot of bad shits before... and i mean a lot and a lot and a lot of bad shits

you just gotta stop regretting the past. you know you did wrong, so that's it. let it be. regretting wont change anything. but moving on and doing better will make things better.

the present and future are far more important than the past. there's no point lingering in the past and trying to fix the past because YOU CANT! but YOU CAN fix your present and future.

i just kept telling myself shits will get better, no matter what happened, my destiny and fate are in my hands. i control what is going to happen. nothing is gonna get in my way.
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I just fear she wont be here anymore in the future. I cannot control this anymore.

I wanna be better but at the same time I have so much fear for the future.
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post Nov 11 2019, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(adeline84 @ Nov 11 2019, 11:54 AM)
TS,

i felt you are lonely once i see your story right ? To be truthful to you and i hope i wont offended you.

Moral of story you can't let go the past and live on ...Keep on putting in your heart and also scared ppl know your secret & stuff like this..

well i also been thru alots of things but what i can advise is you must let go the things from past if not you live in unhappy and depressed ...

well no matter what life must go on and dont stop just keep on moving forward & find hobbies like me i have stress so i divert my mind to another things learning japanese so till now...
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Yes. I'm a very lonely person. I feel very empty at night when I go home and there's no one at home. I'm not a social person so I dont have a lot of friends to hang out with. I mean I have friends but I just dont find them to hang out. I wanna be alone at times but I hate being lonely. If you get what I mean.

I cant let go of the mistake I did you know. I cant live normally putting this mistake behind me. I feel like this mistake has cost me my entire future and I can only blame myself for this. I hate myself and I hate my life. I might have slight depression I dont know but for now its hard to feel happy.

Find hobbies? I cant seem to be interested in anything. All I do is force myself to play a bit of games to take my mind off the whole issue. But after that? I return to the same point beating myself over and over again for what I have done. I cant tell my family or any friends I have. I really hope someone can just be my side and give me a big hug and tell me I'm not a failure.
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post Nov 11 2019, 01:49 PM

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After our conversation last night, she texted me just now.

: I want to tell you that you dont need to make so much effort trying to explain yourself anymore, you have explained enough. I do acknowledged your struggles, problems you face but I'm not in the position to help nor a good listener.

Truth is while you are still in a relationship you chose to flirt with another girl and disrespect your partner, action speaks louder than words.

I will not hold grudges on to it and we should all move on from this.

I replied:

I explain not to justify my actions but so you know where I am coming from. I take 100% responsibility of what I did and I know the damage I caused to both of us. That is why I keep telling you if you're gonna believe one thing, let it be its not you're insufficient. It's my issues my problem lead me to do whatever I have done. I fell to this temptation and ya this is something I knew wrong yet chose to do. I was powerless in the face of sin and I stumble. I am sorry my sin caused so much pain to you when you are not the one committing it. I was close to the finishing line yet I fell. But I hope you realise I wanted to complete this with you and go beyond. Please dont remember me for this mistake I have done.

I hope you believe what I said last night. I will still keep praying for you and for God's will on this relationship.



So really, tell me how can I forgive myself? I just wanna die sometimes.
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post Nov 11 2019, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 11 2019, 01:48 PM)
My friend, you are not a failure. You just need to learn to forgive yourself. smile.gif
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You're not a failure  console.gif
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 11 2019, 02:00 PM)
It's hurting really bad now right?.. But it's gonna be alright my friend. You're doing the best you can, and you are gonna get better. Just hang in there a bit longer my friend smile.gif
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Thanks you guys really made me had a good cry alone in office.
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post Nov 11 2019, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Nov 11 2019, 02:14 PM)
chii think you need to let go. she isn't coming back.
you need to let go of this path
she is not going to complete the journey with you.
sinners will walk a different path, sinners are different....you are already different, done deal.

u forgive yourself by bringing happiness to another different girl, make her happy, start your hopes with her.
u can forgive but never forget, just forge forward and one day you will understand, this wasn't meant to be.
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I really dont wanna think of other different girl now.

Yes she isnt coming back now but I just wanna hang in to that tiny hope. Please just let me hang in to that tiny hope that there's still a way if God allows in the future.
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post Nov 11 2019, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(HafeesFadil @ Nov 11 2019, 02:15 PM)
Still remember me?

My mum always told me that you have everything, u got money, u got job, u got car, u got etc etc etc. So there is no point for u being sad.

Plus she always mention to me that there is a lot of woman in this world which much better than wat I have now. So be happy.

I don't blame u tho, I'm at same situation with u right now but more worst she is my wife. But yeah, life need to go out.

I just back from clinic tho, doctor said I have depression. I need to solve this ASAP or else it will hurt me over and over. Just be happy with what u have right now. U'll be better. We need to move on, orang dah tak suka why we still paksa. Let go, if she's ur she will be back. If she's not, someone much better than her will come very soon.
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Yes.

But bro, I read your story again you still have hope right? 1 month is not even up and you dont know for certain she will leave you. I mean both of your are husband and wife so its not that easy for her to give up as well.

Why your mom so firm on wanting you guys to divorce?
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post Nov 11 2019, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(adeline84 @ Nov 11 2019, 02:16 PM)
TS,

you are not big failure person , do you what it mean of failure?

u r thinking too much aldy and i think you need to find
positive vibes maybe go holiday trip so you will meet
new friends and adventure...

if you need someone to talk or giving suggestion ,
you can pm me if you want ...

the best advise from me dont be alone because auto our brain simply think alot of things
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What it mean of failure?

Thanks for your good intention. But for now really very difficult for me to make new friends or think of any adventure. Heck I cant even reconnect with old friends. I mean I could have open up to a lot of ppl but I choose not to. I hardly can open up to guys and I know she wont like it if I open to my girl friends. But I know my girl friends are the one who would be there to comfort me if I choose to. That's why I find my comfort here.

Dont be alone but really most of the time I'm alone. Dinner alone. Lunch alone. Tonight I'm going to Starbucks alone so I get surrounded by people.
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post Nov 11 2019, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 11 2019, 02:46 PM)
never fear, keep that burning desire that you have for her to fuel your passion
you gotta give it your all, fight with whatever that you have

no matter what the future brings, you much first get rid of your fears.
you dont have to let her, but you still have to do better yourself

focus on making yourself a better person, a better man.
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This is what I keep telling myself.

Either I wanna fight for her to come back or move on for better life, I need to stand up and improve. But its just not easy at this stage when self-blame,self harm is so strong.
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post Nov 11 2019, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(adeline84 @ Nov 11 2019, 03:58 PM)
that's why your heart intention keep on closing like window
not willing to open .hard to breath it just imagine without oksigen....

well the choice is in your hands , you want to make move or not?
up to you..

decision in yr hands...
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It feels like you know she is suffering because of me and I cant just be taking new adventures and recover by my own. Somehow later feel like I'm not even guilty or remorse for whatever I have done.

You get the deep dark hole I'm stuck at?
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post Nov 11 2019, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(adeline84 @ Nov 11 2019, 04:19 PM)
i know how u feel when u alone in deep dark hole , cold and shivering
cause i have experince be4

is just how u climb out of it or remain stuck?
up to you i did told you , decision is in yr hands
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I wanna be out of it but I dont want while I'm out she is still inside it when I am at fault. Does it make sense to you?

How did you overcome yours?
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post Nov 11 2019, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(adeline84 @ Nov 11 2019, 04:42 PM)
to tell you the truth, it is not magic okay , say is easy but once you do it will be very hard
and it takes 1 years plus to be honest i divert my thinking to
learning new language ....

so the more i concentrate and the more i forget
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1 year plus....did you go through similarly what I went through?
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post Nov 11 2019, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(HafeesFadil @ Nov 11 2019, 05:02 PM)
Not so firm, just saying that there is alot of fish out there to catch.

So losing 1 won't give any different that wat she said.

But I insist that I wanna be wif her.

So now try to pujuk back. Trying hard now but in same time trying not to make her feel annoying wif me.
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Did she respond to you? How long left until 1 month is up?

I will pray for you bro. Hang in there. You are in a better position than me because not all is lost in your case.

Do you mind sharing what's the cause of that 1 month break?
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post Nov 11 2019, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(HafeesFadil @ Nov 11 2019, 05:02 PM)
Not so firm, just saying that there is alot of fish out there to catch.

So losing 1 won't give any different that wat she said.

But I insist that I wanna be wif her.

So now try to pujuk back. Trying hard now but in same time trying not to make her feel annoying wif me.
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If I tell my mom, I'm sure she will throw all the blame to me. And accuse me for not treating her well and all. And say I deserve all this.

Really envy those ppl who's family stand beside them thick and thin.
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post Nov 11 2019, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(adeline84 @ Nov 11 2019, 05:57 PM)
More worst but it always depends to you in yr mind

To tell you the truth, nobody except you stand out of dark hole

Always treat yrself aa super hero that can able to give more challenges to you

Friends always supportive but decision is in yr hands whether you want to adapt it , avoid it
Or face it...

Mind keep on playing all the scenario when u are alone so what i can say explore it in yr own eyes and see what u can do ...

Face it or adapt it or accept it
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Thanks.

You have been through a lot and yet here you are, giving me advice. One year later, I will be better than where I am now.
Hard for me to find my friends now for comfort. I cant open up yet.

So for now, you guys here gonna be my comfort.
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 11 2019, 06:13 PM)
that's why turn it the other way. you know you can be better, you know you want to be better.

it's all in your mind, you control your mind, not your mind controls you.

you are the owner of your body, never ever forgets that.

how you want to think, what you want to be, is all up to you.

force yourself to be positive.

i did some shitty stuff, was in a fucking deep hell hole that i almost gave up. i almost wanted it all to end just like that. i was this close. i was the point just fuck it, the world is useless.

but i got over it, nothing can bring me down. the harder the challenge, the bigger my fuel to fight through it.

i just dont give a shit about anything anymore (not in a way of killing myself), but more to no negativity.

when i set my mind to it, means i can and will do it.

remember.. it's all in your mind. your mind the most powerful tool you have. dont underestimate your own mind.

learn to control your mind and you can control everything else.
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If you are me, how would you think to be positive when things like that happened? When you're the one committing the mistake?

What shitty stuff did you do?
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 11 2019, 08:28 PM)
Hey Bro, at Starbucks now? How're you doing?
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I reached Starbucks but I did not go down. I was a mess as I cried hard in the car while the day was going dark. Day gets dark earlier here. It wasnt a good day today. I stayed in the car for almost 3 hours listening to Youtube on self forgiveness but I fell asleep in between. Decided to drive back home cause I feel like I need a hot shower.

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