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 Wahed Invest Malaysia, Good, Ok2, Bad?

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baby_4ever
post Oct 22 2021, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Oct 22 2021, 06:11 PM)
slow slow grow is ok, better than no grow or long term red.
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Yea, get 3-5% a month enough for me.
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post Oct 22 2021, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(baby_4ever @ Oct 22 2021, 07:13 PM)
Yea, get 3-5% a month enough for me.
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How do you calculate the %?

Is it taking the number from the app? Profit/total invested amount
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post Oct 22 2021, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Oct 22 2021, 06:26 PM)
How do you calculate the %?

Is it taking the number from the app?  Profit/total invested amount
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Equity over initial capital
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post Oct 22 2021, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Oct 22 2021, 06:05 PM)
I agree with you, they do not want to take the fee but this is how they manage their business.

SA also have fees but charge lower than Wahed. If I buy ETF myself, still need to incur foreign exchange fee. will the fee take about 0.9% of my AUM? What is your opinion?
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FX fees is nothing to worry about because you’re buying spot rate and the only thing you need to worrying about is expense ratio and brokerage which can be low as 0.35% through 0.8% hence it will be easily cheaper by 1% at least

Go check out DIY page where most of them buy VOO which cost them 0.4% inclusive expense ratio
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post Nov 4 2021, 08:51 AM

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What happen to our HLAL investment in wahed if RM drop against USD? any effect on our return?

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post Nov 4 2021, 08:06 PM

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What happen to our HLAL investment in wahed if RM drop against USD? any effect on our return?
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Only good if you’re selling to locked in the gains rclxms.gif
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post Dec 9 2021, 10:29 AM

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Wahed on top form now..
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post Dec 9 2021, 11:52 AM

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The disinterest in Wahed (HLAL) whether it is performing or not (and it is performing nicely at the moment)

And next door (SAMY) is getting all the attention with heated-exchanges over some Chinese-focused ETF that is performing badly and dragging everything down.

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post Dec 12 2021, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(svchia78 @ Dec 9 2021, 11:52 AM)
The disinterest in Wahed (HLAL) whether it is performing or not (and it is performing nicely at the moment)

And next door (SAMY) is getting all the attention with heated-exchanges over some Chinese-focused ETF that is performing badly and dragging everything down.
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Perhaps the fact that Wahed is Shariah compliant makes people disinterested. My portfolio here is doing well.
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post Jan 3 2022, 11:18 AM

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Hi newbie here. Just opened the Wahed account 1 week ago. Is now the right time to dump in more deposit?
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post Jan 3 2022, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(ahkia @ Jan 3 2022, 11:18 AM)
Hi newbie here.  Just opened the Wahed account 1 week ago. Is now the right time to dump in more deposit?
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There is no right time. Don't time the market. Time IN the market is better than timing the market.

Once u have money, just put it in. Don't think so much

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post Jan 3 2022, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(ahkia @ Jan 3 2022, 11:18 AM)
Hi newbie here.  Just opened the Wahed account 1 week ago. Is now the right time to dump in more deposit?
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Just treat it as a long term savings only because you are not trading anyway
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post Jan 6 2022, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Oct 17 2021, 04:39 AM)
Only Emerging Markets portfolio will get hit 1% because underlying USD and I suspect would be EEM

China-A most likely the same as the current ETF listed on Bursa as the diversified portfolios

Only local REIT and Money Markets which based in RM would be good if the fees are lower than 0.8% and have to see the underlying of it
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The 4 new thematic portfolios are now live. Happy Investing

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post Jan 6 2022, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(hazwank @ Jan 6 2022, 09:09 PM)
The 4 new thematic portfolios are now live. Happy Investing

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I am skipping it as it is cheaper to buy those underlying ETFs and stocks through brokerages doh.gif
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post Jan 10 2022, 07:21 PM

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Wahed just launched a new UMMA index on NASDAQ covering non-US big stocks. Hopefully, it will be available to all internationally soon. 🥳

https://www.finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/...-165717788.html

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post Jan 11 2022, 04:22 AM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jan 10 2022, 07:21 PM)
Wahed just launched a new UMMA index on NASDAQ covering non-US big stocks. Hopefully, it will be available to all internationally soon. 🥳

https://www.finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/...-165717788.html
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Be prepared to pay 0.65% for expense ratio and on top Wahed monthly charges doh.gif
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post Jan 24 2022, 12:30 AM

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why when tech stock market crash i lose a lot?? when market go green they only give small increment. i think money lost somewhere this robo not really smart. lousy app hard to recommend this so called 'investment'. for long term better park money elsewhere
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post Jan 24 2022, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(grimreaper05 @ Jan 24 2022, 12:30 AM)
why when tech stock market crash i lose a lot?? when market go green they only give small increment. i think money lost somewhere this robo not really smart. lousy app hard to recommend this so called 'investment'. for long term better park money elsewhere
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Robo-investing all suffer from one basic core tenets of investment. Past returns are no indicator of future performance.

These "robots" use complicated mathematical models to compute asset allocations in an attempt to outperform the market. The problem is the models they use are based on past data. But then, past returns are no indicator of future performance.

By the way, losing money in a bear market/correction is normal. Volatility is something you should expect even when using "robots" to invest on behalf of you. No pain no gain. You should not expect not losing money at all with a "robot". All investors should expect loses when beginning an investment, regardless of whether a "robot" is involved in the process.

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post Jan 24 2022, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(grimreaper05 @ Jan 24 2022, 12:30 AM)
why when tech stock market crash i lose a lot?? when market go green they only give small increment. i think money lost somewhere this robo not really smart. lousy app hard to recommend this so called 'investment'. for long term better park money elsewhere
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You to call check because it is not pure 100% t3ch underlying hence which is why market is green you only the weightage of Tech gains which is only the most ATH 25% doh.gif
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post Jan 24 2022, 08:42 PM

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Upgraded Portfolio gets New Allocation!

from Wahed: In line with our mission to offer high quality investment portfolios to you, we would like to inform you that our diversified portfolios now carry the following allocations:

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