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Night Shift
post Oct 20 2024, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Voreus @ Oct 20 2024, 06:46 PM)
Hi everyone, newcomer over here



is it mandatory to fund the account first, or i can do it later?

lots of questions in mind but i'll arrange them and ask them later on, nice meeting yall
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Not really, but I just deposit 10 dollars to speed up the registration process since they say they handle those who fund the account with priority

Btw, Ibkr better than Moomoo?


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post Oct 20 2024, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 17 2024, 12:44 AM)
I found another investment opportunity: luxury cars - in particular, Ferrari... (Don't buy Porsche though... that one failed in its attempt to become the next Ferrari)

PE ratio 40 times, same level as Hermes, debt level as % of overall assets falling for years already... Not yet net cash position like Hermes though.

FT Opinion | Lex

This luxury capitulation has barely begun

https://www.ft.com/content/b6c1e2a0-0f95-47...22-d27e40c6d788
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I held some Ferrari shares for afew months already, basically quite disappointing as it hardly move upwards despite being in a bull market


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post Oct 20 2024, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(Night Shift @ Oct 20 2024, 06:52 PM)
Not really, but I just deposit 10 dollars to speed up the registration process since they say they handle those who fund the account with priority

Btw, Ibkr better than Moomoo?
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iirc there's this 30% withholding tax on dividends for non US residents for US etf (like VOO) while its only 15%? for irish etf like vuaa

and i plan to park my money in an etf long term...so yeah, do please correct me if im wrong somewhere

I see, i shall deposit 10 bucks in to speed up the process then

wait.....you need a wise account to do the transfer from myr to usd (apuuu byk macamm)
soo ill need to create a wise account then

This post has been edited by Voreus: Oct 20 2024, 07:02 PM
Night Shift
post Oct 20 2024, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(Voreus @ Oct 20 2024, 06:57 PM)
iirc there's this 30% withholding tax on dividends for non US residents for US etf (like VOO) while its only 15%? for irish etf like vuaa

and i plan to park my money in an etf long term...so yeah, do please correct me if im wrong somewhere

I see, i shall deposit 10 bucks in to speed up the process then
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Not instantaneous though

I registered on Thursday night, Saturday morning then can trade
Night Shift
post Oct 20 2024, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Voreus @ Oct 20 2024, 06:57 PM)
iirc there's this 30% withholding tax on dividends for non US residents for US etf (like VOO) while its only 15%? for irish etf like vuaa

and i plan to park my money in an etf long term...so yeah, do please correct me if im wrong somewhere

I see, i shall deposit 10 bucks in to speed up the process then

wait.....you need a wise account to do the transfer from myr to usd (apuuu byk macamm)
soo ill need to create a wise account then
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I din use USD

I convert inside ibkr
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post Oct 20 2024, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(Night Shift @ Oct 20 2024, 07:07 PM)
I din use USD

I convert inside ibkr
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excuse my ignorance, you mean you can do deposits in ibkr without wise?

my application is currently in review, the deposit options i see in the app are two which involves wise, and a "transfer securities"
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post Oct 20 2024, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Night Shift @ Oct 20 2024, 06:56 PM)
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I held some Ferrari shares for afew months already, basically quite disappointing as it hardly move upwards despite being in a bull market
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Several months only and you start to complain already? tongue.gif

Maybe you are a trader... you might like to dabble into automotive, airlines, commodities. High volatilities might work for you better.

I choose to dabble into luxury goods after realizing that both S&P 500 and Nasdaq 100 do not have exposure to these industries. The USA doesn't have a rich and deep aesthetic culture like the European continent, so that's why I have some exposure over in the European side.

If you select a true luxury goods company like Hermes, Brunello Cucinelli, and Ferrari, which controls the supply chain from production to end-customer sales, you are literally the sole supplier, and the supply becomes highly inelastic, and if you make nice products, you get the maximum pricing power possible by extracting every single cent out of customer's pockets.

Under supply is key: Take Hermes as an example, the iconic Birkin and Kelly bags are only supplied at 20% of market demand. The latest Ferrari supercar F80 sells for 3.1 million Euro a piece, 800 units in total only, all sold out. That should bring 3 billion USD for your company already...

Sales tactics matter too. Hermes make money by an old trick called bundling... You gotta buy a canoe, gold spoon, or some other stupid things before you even get to queue for a Kelly's or a Birkin. And when it's your turn, you might not get the color you want. laugh.gif Ferrari makes money by customizing cars for the UHNWI. That's how you sell a typical Ferrari for 400 thousand Euro. Then you gotta pay for maintenance, spare parts... brows.gif You won't go to some roadside unauthorized car service center to fix your Ferrari, you have to go back to the factory for original, authentic parts... The stickiness of the business is clearly evident here...

Buying a Ferrari is a fool's way of spending money, while we investors sit back and collect the charges.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


A true luxury goods brand do not need a lot of advertisement, and you should not be able to buy the goods even if you have lots of money, you gotta create the aura of the rich. The sponsorship from LV, Gucci and the ease of owning a LV, Gucci bag make them second-class luxury goods company. You want first-class business, gotta be patient...

That's why the PE ratio of RMS, BC and RACE are about 40 times, LVMH can only fetch half of that figure... Kering/Gucci falls to third class already...

But one risk remains with European luxury goods stocks. Unlike in American companies where most of them are open to professionals from outside the family (e.g. JP Morgan), the European founder family can either make (in Hermes case) or break (in Gucci's case) the enterprise. Understanding the founder family is equally important too. But I will leave it to another post to elaborate lah haha Too much to fit into this one post.

QUOTE(Voreus @ Oct 20 2024, 07:41 PM)
excuse my ignorance, you mean you can do deposits in ibkr without wise?

my application is currently in review, the deposit options i see in the app are two which involves wise, and a "transfer securities"
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You can deposit any amount to IBKR in many currencies. If you have SGD bank account in SG, can fund your account in SGD also vis FAST then convert to USD via IBKR's internal FX conversion feature. But that's not necessary until you need to start buying US shares/ETFs, for instance.

This post has been edited by TOS: Oct 20 2024, 09:34 PM
Night Shift
post Oct 20 2024, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Voreus @ Oct 20 2024, 07:41 PM)
excuse my ignorance, you mean you can do deposits in ibkr without wise?

my application is currently in review, the deposit options i see in the app are two which involves wise, and a "transfer securities"
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Yup, I recall I got more funding options. I registered on the web before downloading and use the app to trade thou
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post Oct 20 2024, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 20 2024, 08:14 PM)
Several months only and you start to complain already? tongue.gif

Maybe you are a trader... you might like to dabble into automotive, airlines, commodities. High volatilities might work for you better.

I choose to dabble into luxury goods after realizing that both S&P 500 and Nasdaq 100 do not have exposure to these industries. The USA doesn't have a rich and deep aesthetic culture like the European continent, so that's why I have some exposure over in the European side.

If you select a true luxury goods company like Hermes, Brunello Cucinelli, and Ferrari, which controls the supply chain from production to end-customer sales, you are literally the sole supplier, and the supply becomes highly inelastic, and if you make nice products, you get the maximum pricing power possible by extracting every single cent out of customer's pockets.

Under supply is key: Take Hermes as an example, the iconic Birkin and Kelly bags are only supplied at 20% of market demand. The latest Ferrari supercar F80 sells for 3.1 million Euro a piece, 800 units in total only, all sold out. That should bring 3 billion USD for your company already...

Sales tactics matter too. Hermes make money by an old trick called bundling... You gotta buy a canoe, gold spoon, or some other stupid things before you even get to queue for  a Kelly's or a Birkin. And when it's your turn, you might not get the color you want. laugh.gif Ferrari makes money by customizing cars for the UHNWI. That's how you sell a typical Ferrari for 400 thousand Euro. Then you gotta pay for maintenance, spare parts...  brows.gif You won't go to some roadside unauthorized car service center to fix your Ferrari, you have to go back to the factory for original, authentic parts... The stickiness of the business is clearly evident here...

Buying a Ferrari is a fool's of spending money, while we investors sit back and collect the charges.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


A true luxury goods brand do not need a lot of advertisement, and you should not be able to buy the goods even if you have lots of money, you gotta create the aura of the rich. The sponsorship from LV, Gucci and the ease of owning a LV, Gucci bag make them second-class luxury goods company. You want first-class business, gotta be patient...

That's why the PE ratio of RMS, BC and RACE are about 40 times, LVMH can only fetch half of that figure... Kering/Gucci falls to third class already...

But one risk remains with European luxury goods stocks. Unlike in American companies where most of them are open to professionals from outside the family (e.g. JP Morgan), the European founder family can either make (in Hermes case) or break (in Gucci's case) the enterprise. Understanding the founder family is equally important too. But I will leave it to another post to elaborate lah haha Too much to fit into this one post.
You can deposit any amount to IBKR in many currencies. If you have SGD bank account in SG, can fund your account in SGD also vis FAST then convert to USD via IBKR's internal FX conversion feature. But that's not necessary until you need to start buying US shares/ETFs, for instance.
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Wow! You are really an investor!

Maybe I will load up more Ferrari when the price drop

I had some Aston Martin shares too and drop till $1.30+ 😿
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post Oct 20 2024, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Voreus @ Oct 20 2024, 07:41 PM)
the deposit options i see in the app are two which involves wise, and a "transfer securities"
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QUOTE(Night Shift @ Oct 20 2024, 09:02 PM)
Yup, I recall I got more funding options. I registered on the web before downloading and use the app to trade thou
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to see more options please select USD or SGD currency. MYR only have "two which involves wise"
QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 9 2024, 12:36 PM)
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post Oct 22 2024, 04:14 PM

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Wow, today's scalping profits set to break all records...

Sold 113 BIL at 91.79 this morning, and another 68 units at 91.75 this afternoon.

Sell-leg commissions = 0.66 + 0.51 USD = 1.17 USD

Now US premarket session suggests 91.69-91.70 is the correct range.

Suppose I were to buy back all 181 units of BIL at 91.69, with 0.36 USD commissions (prior to exchange liquidity discount), that would amount to a total profit of 13.85 USD... For one day!

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This post has been edited by TOS: Oct 22 2024, 04:15 PM
Night Shift
post Oct 23 2024, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 20 2024, 09:23 PM)
to see more options please select USD or SGD currency. MYR only have "two which involves wise"
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What’s the rule/duration to qualify for the free ibkr shares for new users? Only on the first deposit made, which is my $10?

Is there anyway to stay logged in and not wait for OTP every time I use the app?
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post Oct 23 2024, 02:24 AM

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Guys, any money market fund on ibkr for my uninvested cash?

Or I should just YOLO buy any random shares with my leftover money since ibkr only pay interest for net value >$10000
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post Oct 23 2024, 04:43 AM

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QUOTE(Night Shift @ Oct 23 2024, 02:21 AM)
What’s the rule/duration to qualify for the free ibkr shares for new users?
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did you enter a referral code when you register for IBKR?
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Referred accounts will receive $1 in IBKR shares for every $100 of value (cash or other assets) added to their account for up to $1000 worth of IBKR shares. The average balance must be maintained for at least 1 year for the shares to vest and be accessible.
https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/tradi...r-to-member.php
QUOTE(Night Shift @ Oct 23 2024, 02:24 AM)
Guys, any money market fund on ibkr for my uninvested cash?
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refer to this
QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 7 2024, 11:08 AM)
Yea, the cheapest way to park your funds in IBKR is just use BIL ETF. Park all your USD save for a couple of dollars for commissions in BIL ETF. Withdraw anytime during US premarket/aftermarket or during normal trading session then you can use it to purchase any US stocks/ETFs instantaneously, even with cash account, no need for T+1 settlement unless you need to withdraw the money out of IBKR account into say, your USD bank accounts.

Try to avoid fractional shares with BIL ETF yea... At worst, you will leave behind some 90ish USD as cash in your IBKR account. Fractional shares for stocks with 4 digits share prices are easier to trade, but for double digit unit price like the case of BIL ETF it's a hassle to buy and sell. After all, your goal is short-term liquidity management here...

As for tax, indeed as Medufsaid said, there is a 30% WHT when BIL credit the dividends to you every month, but around early February of the following year, IBKR will reverse the WHT and refund you the money in your USD cash account.

The expected return of BIL ETF is about 20 basis points below the 1-2 month US T-bill yields, mainly due to the 0.14% management fee charges from SSGA and another 0.05% from the lost in interests on interests due to the 30% withholding tax.

*In case you wonder how to compute the lost in interests on interests... here's the maths:

Assuming you start in February in year 0, you lose 5%/12 * 30% WHT * 5% , the second 5% being the interests on interests. In March, you lose 5%/12 * 30% WHT * 5% * (11/12), now you lose (11/12) of the annual interests on interests (you only got 11/12 of a year left to compound your interests on interests until next year's February, when IBKR refund you the 30% WHT), but the capital remains the same, i.e., 5%/12 month * 30% WHT. So the total opportunity cost, in simple interest terms, to first order effect (we ignore interests on interests on interests and .... on interests...  and... laugh.gif ), the sum of series is 5%/12 * 30% WHT * (1/12) * (12+11+10+...+1) = 0.04% p.a.

Do correct me if my maths is wrong... my head is spinning all over the place writing my PhD qualifying exam report... rclxub.gif
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post Oct 23 2024, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 22 2024, 04:14 PM)
Wow, today's scalping profits set to break all records...

Sold 113 BIL at 91.79 this morning, and another 68 units at 91.75 this afternoon.

Sell-leg commissions = 0.66 + 0.51 USD = 1.17 USD

Now US premarket session suggests 91.69-91.70 is the correct range.

Suppose I were to buy back all 181 units of BIL at 91.69, with 0.36 USD commissions (prior to exchange liquidity discount), that would amount to a total profit of 13.85 USD... For one day!

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Trade closed early morning. It has been a long day...

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Total profits = (91.79*113 + 91.75*68) - (91.69*181) - (0.66+0.51+0.39) = 13.82 USD.
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post Oct 23 2024, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(poooky @ Oct 23 2024, 07:44 AM)
Which US T-bills ETF is recommended for set and forget short to med term? And please elaborate how you are scalping for more yield? Also what do you mean by borrowing USD and trading in Asian hours?
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Hi there. BIL ETF is recommended for short-term USD parking. As for how to scalp for more returns, I detailed the strategy in the previous posts.

In the future, I won't be sharing any more strategies... You guys just want to free-ride everything... laugh.gif

Now I know why top quant hedge funds jealously guard their "strategies"... I am gonna guard mine as well... proprietary secrets not to be revealed... laugh.gif




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post Oct 23 2024, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 23 2024, 09:07 AM)
Hi there. BIL ETF is recommended for short-term USD parking. As for how to scalp for more returns, I detailed the strategy in the previous posts.

In the future, I won't be sharing any more strategies... You guys just want to free-ride everything...  laugh.gif

Now I know why top quant hedge funds jealously guard their "strategies"... I am gonna guard mine as well... proprietary secrets not to be revealed...  laugh.gif
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Noooo, please continue sharing your knowledge 🙇‍♂️

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post Oct 23 2024, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(poooky @ Oct 23 2024, 09:49 AM)
Noooo, please continue sharing your knowledge 🙇‍♂️
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haha, ask him to setup a gofundme/patreon, you donate some cash to him
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post Oct 23 2024, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 23 2024, 06:28 AM)
Trade closed early morning. It has been a long day...

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Total profits = (91.79*113 + 91.75*68) - (91.69*181) - (0.66+0.51+0.39) = 13.82 USD.
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good job with your arbitrage... smile.gif

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 23 2024, 09:07 AM)
Hi there. BIL ETF is recommended for short-term USD parking. As for how to scalp for more returns, I detailed the strategy in the previous posts.

In the future, I won't be sharing any more strategies... You guys just want to free-ride everything...  laugh.gif

Now I know why top quant hedge funds jealously guard their "strategies"... I am gonna guard mine as well... proprietary secrets not to be revealed...  laugh.gif
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Boss, dont worry la, at the same time you can use us as test cases of your strategies (until it fail?)

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