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post Oct 29 2019, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 29 2019, 03:30 PM)
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MTTHEW.4:1-4 (NKJV) = Satan Tempts Jesus

4 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. 3 Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”

4 But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”
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JOHN.6:63 =  63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. 64 But there are some of you who do not believe.”
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EPHESIANS.6:16-17 = 16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;
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So you are not Christian. No wonder when i talk about holy spirit, u dont seems to understand.

We learn god words through scripture and holy spirit. Just for your information, we are not rigid like certain religion where they follow ancient scripture only.
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post Oct 29 2019, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(electronictomato @ Oct 29 2019, 04:39 PM)
So you are not Christian. No wonder when i talk about holy spirit, u dont seems to understand.

We learn god words through scripture and holy spirit. Just for your information, we are not rigid like certain religion where they follow ancient scripture only.
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That's was not what you actually said; ....
QUOTE(electronictomato @ Oct 29 2019 @ 01:33 PM)
You have to pray to God and ask for his guidance. He will tell you personally through holy spirit how to deal with your sexual lust.

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So, from the Scripture and the Holy Spirit, please teach us how do you actually deal with immoral sexual lust in your heart.? Eg MATTHEW.5:27-30 - pluck out your eyes and cut off your limbs.?

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 29 2019, 08:06 PM)
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That's was not what you actually said; ....
QUOTE(electronictomato @ Oct 29 2019 @ 01:33 PM)
You have to pray to God and ask for his guidance. He will tell you personally through holy spirit how to deal with your sexual lust.

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So, from the Scripture and the Holy Spirit, please teach us how do you actually deal with immoral sexual lust in your heart.? Eg MATTHEW.5:27-30 - pluck out your eyes and cut off your limbs.?
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That's an exaggerated terms, it is common in the Bible. Have you not read, whoever tumble the little one should be thrown into the sea? Think of your past, have you sinned against the little one?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 29 2019, 08:06 PM)
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That's was not what you actually said; ....
QUOTE(electronictomato @ Oct 29 2019 @ 01:33 PM)
You have to pray to God and ask for his guidance. He will tell you personally through holy spirit how to deal with your sexual lust.

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So, from the Scripture and the Holy Spirit, please teach us how do you actually deal with immoral sexual lust in your heart.? Eg MATTHEW.5:27-30 - pluck out your eyes and cut off your limbs.?
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you're keep asking the same question, its in the quote up here. Can u see? i asked you to pray and ask for god help and guidance.

However, if you still cant follow god guidance and become cancer to human kind, that extreme state of example, you can try it and stop yourself from mass rape and killing. Its always wise to sacrifice yourself instead of destroying so many ppl. Dont you think so?
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post Oct 29 2019, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(electronictomato @ Oct 29 2019, 08:30 PM)
you're keep asking the same question, its in the quote up here. Can u see? i asked you to pray and ask for god help and guidance.
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I can see no Bible quote from you.

Are you saying that Christians should follow your personal quote or sayings.? Are you God/Christ.? ....
QUOTE(electronictomato @ Oct 29 2019 @ 01:33 PM)
You have to pray to God and ask for his guidance. He will tell you personally through holy spirit how to deal with your sexual lust.


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QUOTE(talentrecruiter @ Oct 29 2019, 08:16 PM)
That's an exaggerated terms, it is common in the Bible. Have you not read, whoever tumble the little one should be thrown into the sea? Think of your past, have you sinned against the little one?
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MATTHEW.5:27-30 was no exaggeration, ie if the Jews and Pharisees still wanted to be saved from hell without believing in Jesus the Christ/Messiah, they would then have to pluck out their eyes and cut off their limbs because that is how a person can be without any immoral sexual lust in his/her heart. You won't have immoral sexual lust in your heart if you can't see and can't commit adultery.

I believe if any of the Jews and Pharisees had accepted Jesus Christ's challenge to pluck out his eyes and cut off his limbs, He/Jesus would have granted him Paradise or salvation.

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post Oct 29 2019, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 29 2019, 08:51 PM)
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I can see no Bible quote from you.

Are you saying that Christians should follow your personal quote or sayings.? Are you God/Christ.? ....
QUOTE(electronictomato @ Oct 29 2019 @ 01:33 PM)
You have to pray to God and ask for his guidance. He will tell you personally through holy spirit how to deal with your sexual lust.

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nope, i talked logic human with you and i know you are agree with me. Dont u think? eg. like someone equipped with heavy mc guns running around shooting, the best solution is to take him off right.

peace, dont get triggered bro. i just giving extreme example where u can apply the solution you have mentioned. thats all... smh icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 29 2019, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(electronictomato @ Oct 29 2019, 09:09 PM)
nope, i talked logic human with you and i know you are agree with me. Dont u think? eg. like someone equipped with heavy mc guns running around shooting, the best solution is to take him off right.

peace, dont get triggered bro. i just giving extreme example where u can apply the solution you have mentioned. thats all... smh icon_rolleyes.gif
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When it comes to the guide-in-living and the way to salvation/heaven, I only agree with God/Christ and His Word/Law/commandments as recorded in the Bible, not with you or even Martin Luther, the father of the Protestant Reformation or with the Roman Catholic Popes.

Peace to you too.
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1JOHN.4:1-6 (NKJV) = 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. 6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

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QUOTE(Crossbite @ Oct 28 2019, 11:13 AM)
If God calls us to not worry or be anxious (Matthew 6:25-34, Philippians 4:6-7), do you all think worry is a sin? I wrote an interesting article on this topic recently.

https://www.christianityunfiltered.com/is-worrying-a-sin/
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The RCC has managed to transfer many of their pagan and ungodly traditions into the Christian world, neglecting the instructions of God.
Through the millennium, lies have become Truths in the churches through the practices and repetitive traditions, which the churches have taken for granted.

The biggest error was the anti Jewish bias of the church through out the ages, reinforced by Luther who was seen and still is a hero amongst reformists.

Without the Jewish foundations of understanding, pretty much anything goes.

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Fyi, a case study, .......
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4612114/+920
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My parents divorced when I was 3, I have a sister that is 2 years younger. I never met him again till I was 28 and realized all that I was told about him were nothing but lies. .......
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So, during a critical point in your college life in USA when you were in financial dire straits in 1997, God miraculously answered your prayers for college finance through 2 old US Christian ladies = you became a firm believer in the Christian God and has since regularly repaid His blessings with tithes and gift offerings to Churches. Is that all the Gospel/Bible is about, ie only a financial relationship with God.? What about holy living and salvation from hell - 1COR.5:1-13 & 6:9-11 & 11:30, GAL.5:19-21, REV.22:12-17.?

Unfortunately, you continued in your sins/law-breaking in sexual immorality(= against God's Word at JOHN.5:14 & 8:11, ACTS.15:19-29, 1COR.6:14-20 & 3:16-17) and proceeded to marry an unbeliever(against the Word of God at 2COR.6:14). Hence, you have suffered the consequences of your sins/law-breaking, eg quarrels with your non-Christian in-laws, divorce, separation from your 2 kids, high blood pressure, losing hair, losing money in bad auctioned houses, etc. You should have married one of the young female relatives of Mrs Rogers or Mrs Anders who is a believer.
....... Your unbelieving wife and in-laws are a very bad influence on you. What's done is done and let bygones be bygones, no matter how bad, ie you need to suffer for your sins/law-breaking. Christians do not have the "Get out of Jail Free" card for their willful sins/law-breaking(HEB.10:26-31 & 6:1-8) - they only have the "Get out of Hell Free" card for their inherited Adam's Original Sin, through faith in Jesus Christ(ROMANS.5:12).
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The Bible says Jesus Christ was God-in-the-flesh(JOHN.1:1 & 14, 1TIM.3:16, JOHN.8:58/EXO.3:14, ISA.9:6) and at ACTS.15:19-29 and ROMANS.14:1-4, the Holy Spirit of God(= is Jesus also - 2COR.3:17, JOHN.6:63) exempted new Gentile Christians from any of His laws which proved a burden to them, eg circumcision(GEN.34:25), dietary laws, etc.

OTOH, the Gentile Christians were still required to keep any of His laws which proved not a burden, eg avoid sexual immorality, keep the Ten Commandments/laws, etc(1COR.5:5 & 6:9-11, GAL.5:19-21). Otherwise, they may likely end up not saved from hell, eg by losing faith after suffering for their law-breaking/sins/evil-deeds - 1COR.11:30, 1JOHN.5:16, DEUT.28:15, ROM.2:5-11, 1TIM.4:1, JOB.2:9.

In comparison, Jewish Christians were required by God to continue to keep His 613 laws, as many as possible, because they were not a burden to them since they had already done so from childhood - ACTS.21:20-25, 2TIM.3:14-17.

Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles(ACTS.9:15-16) was just obeying God and His latest revelation at ACTS.15 when Paul contested against the Judaizers(GAL.2:9-14) by teaching the doctrine of justification for salvation by faith in Jesus Christ alone, and not by keeping all the 613 laws of God, even though the Law could bring earthly blessings from God, ie a good and long life on earth. Paul did not teach Gentile Christians to go and sin some more after conversion, only that they were exempted or liberated from burdensome laws.
....... Why did God exempt the Gentile Christians.? = because for many new Gentile Christians who might already be mired in the consequences/effects of sins/law-breaking in their previous lawless Gentile lives, inheriting eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ trumps gaining a long life through the 613 laws of Moses, eg the robber/sinner/law-breaker who was crucified next to Jesus Christ at LUKE.23:43 was able to inherit Paradise through faith in Jesus, even though he had to die young for his sin of robbery.

God/Jesus's ideal believer was a Jewish Christian who kept His laws and believed in Jesus of Nazareth as his/her Christ/Messiah(cf; MATTHEW.19:16-23). But alas, most of the Jews in the 1st century AD rejected Him as the Christ/Messiah and killed Him on the Cross. So, the gospel of salvation was then extended to the mostly wild/lawless Gentiles and that is where many problems crop up wrt Christian doctrines, eg false prophets/teachers/pastors(MATTHEW.7:15-23, ROMANS.11).

Most new Gentile Christians need to begin their new born-again life in the Spirit by keeping the 4 simple, easy and non-burdensome laws of Moses at ACTS.15:28-29. Thereafter, they should gradually grow from spiritual babes-in-Christ to spiritual adults or men of God(1COR.3:1-3, 2TIM.3:16-17) by learning to keep the other non-burdensome laws of God so as to avoid sinning/evil-doing/law-breaking and getting cursed or punished by God = avoid a sad and short life on earth and risk losing their faith/salvation.(HEB.8:10-11 & 10:15)

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Repentance in the parable of the lost coin, lost sheep and prodigal son

Read entire chapter of Luke 15:1-31


We are all familiar with the word repentance. It is usually depict as being sorrowful or remorseful of your sin, crying and wailing over it.
But there is another aspect which many are not familiar with.

Today I will expound and share with you that you may be enlightened to know where we have missed it. Many times we can cry at the altar, be ok for few days but within weeks, we are back to square one and that is the reality with many of us. What is the revelation of repentance in this 3 parables?

If you read it from verse 1 to the end, you will find the lost sheep is not really the focal point or the key point. Look at who is the one doing the searching, the carrying, the loving and the celebrating? The main focus of the hero here is God himself.

In the parable of the lost sheep and lost coin, no where will you find this chest beating, being remorseful over the sin and YET Jesus mention about the word repentance in here. So what is being repented in here?

Well the answer is, the sheep or the lost consented to be found, consented to be carry by the strong shoulders of Jesus, and most IMPORTANTLY consented to be loved by God. THAT is repentance my dear friends. The revelation of repentance in this 3 parable is that you must consent to be loved by God to accept his love and that INVOLVES you 1st and foremost coming to God, consenting for God to receive you despite of your failures and flaws.

If you think about it...even in the parable of the prodigal son, God the Father did not allow that lost son to complete his rehearsed remorseful speech. He was cut off after he said " I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’....God the Father cut off his remorse sin speech by quickly gave him abundance of Grace by giving of best robe (restoring righteousness), ring on his finger (signifying authority as a son) and sandals on his feet, meaning He is welcome home, he has the right to step foot at the Father's house. Best of all the fattened calf was given ( restoring providence).

It seems that God is more concern that you come to him more than anything. Why? Because repentance can only happen with God's power in your life. You being so critical of sin or remorseful over it can only do so little but does not help.

My friends. Be repented that God is not out to get you for your sins but to restore you and to love you. Be like the lost sheep, consent to be carry by God, be like the lost coin, consent to be found and be like the lost son, consent to be loved!

God Bless.


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MATTHEW.7:21-23 (NKJV) = I Never Knew You

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
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Imagine, some "Christians" are unknown to God. Wonder why.? Maybe they do not believe every word that proceeds from the mouth of God/Jesus(MATTHEW.4:4), ie they believe only in some words of God that agree with them(is right in their own eyes) or they do not know who Jesus Christ really is(eg 1COR.15:24, 2COR.3:17).

Such unknown "Christians" can be judged by their evil works or fruits of lawlessness and they really need to repent.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 2 2019 @ 12:11 PM)
proceeded to marry an unbeliever(against the Word of God at 2COR.6:14)

QUOTE(Yggdrasil)
FYI, marrying an unbeliever is not a sin.
It was recommended by Paul to Corinthian church because there were many Pagan religions that existed at that time.
Their spouse may easily influence them to convert out of Christianity.

Most churches allow marriage between believer and unbeliever but warn them of the dangers.

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1COR.7: (NKJV) = Keep Your Marriage Vows

10 Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband. 11 But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife.

12 But to the rest I, not the Lord, say: If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is willing to live with him, let him not divorce her. 13 And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. 15 But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace. 16 For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?

Live as You Are Called

17 But as God has distributed to each one, as the Lord has called each one, so let him walk. And so I ordain in all the churches. 18 Was anyone called while circumcised? Let him not become uncircumcised. Was anyone called while uncircumcised? Let him not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters. 20 Let each one remain in the same calling in which he was called. 21 Were you called while a slave? Do not be concerned about it; but if you can be made free, rather use it. 22 For he who is called in the Lord while a slave is the Lord’s freedman. Likewise he who is called while free is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men. 24 Brethren, let each one remain with God in that state in which he was called.

To the Unmarried and Widows

25 Now concerning virgins: I have no commandment from the Lord; yet I give judgment as one whom the Lord in His mercy has made trustworthy. 26 I suppose therefore that this is good because of the present distress—that it is good for a man to remain as he is: 27 Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be loosed. Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife. 28 But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have trouble in the flesh, but I would spare you.

29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short, so that from now on even those who have wives should be as though they had none, 30 those who weep as though they did not weep, those who rejoice as though they did not rejoice, those who buy as though they did not possess, 31 and those who use this world as not misusing it. For the form of this world is passing away.

32 But I want you to be without care. He who is unmarried cares for the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord. 33 But he who is married cares about the things of the world—how he may please his wife. 34 There is a difference between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman cares about the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But she who is married cares about the things of the world—how she may please her husband. 35 And this I say for your own profit, not that I may put a leash on you, but for what is proper, and that you may serve the Lord without distraction.

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Yggdrasil

No, unmarried Christians willfully marrying unbelievers is a sin.

1COR.7 has to be read in context. If a Gentile Christian is called into belief/faith or converted by God while being married to an unbeliever, the Christian should remain with God in that state in which he/she was called, and not seek to divorce his/her unbelieving spouse.
....... 1COR.7 does not apply to an unmarried Gentile Christian who has been called or converted by God, who then goes and willfully marries an unbeliever. If he/she does, he/she has committed a sin - 2COR.6:14.

Paul recommended unmarried Christians to remain unmarried so that they could give full devotion to God and His work. Even if they wanted to marry, they should only marry a believer - this is not a sin.

The above principles of Christian marriage wrt believers and unbelievers, follow that of Moses Law where the Jews were prohibited from marrying unbelieving Gentiles.

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No, unmarried Christians willfully marrying unbelievers is a sin. .
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Please show me specifically where in the Holy Bible says that such union is a SIN ?
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Nov 3 2019, 03:28 PM)
Please show me specifically where in the Holy Bible says that such union is a SIN ?
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1COR.7:39 (NKJV) = 39 A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord.

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2COR.6:14-18 = 14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? 15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

“I will dwell in them
And walk among them.
I will be their God,
And they shall be My people.”

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“Come out from among them
And be separate, says the Lord.
Do not touch what is unclean,
And I will receive you.”
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“I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the Lord Almighty.”

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GENESIS.2:24 = 24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
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1COR.6:15-20 = 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” 17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.
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1COR.3:16-17 = .16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 3 2019, 04:01 PM)
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1COR.7:39 (NKJV) = 39 A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives; but if her husband dies, she is at liberty to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord.

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2COR.6:14-18 = 14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? 15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

“I will dwell in them
And walk among them.
I will be their God,
And they shall be My people.”

17 Therefore

“Come out from among them
And be separate, says the Lord.
Do not touch what is unclean,
And I will receive you.”
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“I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the Lord Almighty.”

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GENESIS.2:24 = 24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
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1COR.6:15-20 = 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” 17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.
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1COR.3:16-17 = .16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.
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There's absolutely nothing about sin from such union in those verses.
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QUOTE(yaokb @ Oct 4 2019, 10:17 PM)
I find that if you simply ignore posters like these, they eventually fade back into the woodwork.

This dupe probably is one of our regular friends who visit us from time to time.

His doctrines are unusual to say the least but are mostly harmless other than give the rest of us a bad rep.

So, no harm done
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Nov 3 2019, 04:13 PM)
There's absolutely nothing about sin from such union in those verses.
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The Bible verses say that when a Christian marries an unbeliever(= the two shall become one flesh), he/she is joining together the temple of God with the temple of Belial/idols/lawlessness/darkness. Lawlessness is sin. .......

1JOHN.3:4-5 = 4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin.
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post Nov 3 2019, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 3 2019, 04:29 PM)
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The Bible verses say that when a Christian marries an unbeliever(= the two shall become one flesh), he/she is joining together the temple of God with the temple of Belial/idols/lawlessness/darkness. Lawlessness is sin. .......

1JOHN.3:4-5 = 4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin.
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I think .... it depends on the definition of sin when discussing. Now most believers will always associate sin with moral sin in which, is just one of the aspect, then no, it is not sinful in that way.

In the Old Testament God instituted marriage before sin came into the world. In the New Testament, Paul said that marriage not only is allowed but also is a necessity because of the presence of sin (1 Cor. 7).

Marriage can prevent sin. This is why Paul said that men should have their own wives and women should have their own husbands. This is to prevent the sin of fornication (v. 2).

According to principle in 1 Cor 7, we can say that the best thing for a brother to do is to marry a sister in the Lord. If it is not possible to do this, it is best if he does not marry at all. However, if he must marry, we still would be happy to see him marry. Even if the other party is an unbeliever, we still would like to see him marry.

This is not a dogma ... but the praticality of it ... IMHO .... er ...

IMHO (I could be wrong but be general), I would rather see a person commit a sin against God's government (lawlessness - you can say) rather than a moral sin. If by not marrying I fall into sin, I commit a moral sin. If I marry an unbelieving woman, I commit a sin against God's government.

He or she should realize that serious problems lie ahead. It is particularly hard for a believer to marry an unbeliever. Problems come when one decided to be absolute for the Lord ... then, the differing goals will conflicts. XD


But this is not a hammer to throw around ......... XD



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