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SUSlurkingaround
post Apr 7 2020, 05:06 PM

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/televangelist-ke...-194622515.html - Televangelist Kenneth Copeland 'blows wind of God' at coronavirus and claims pandemic is 'destroyed' in sermon - [The Independent] - Alex Woodward - April 6, 2020

American televangelist Kenneth Copeland, who recently claimed that the coronavirus pandemic will be "over much sooner you think" because "Christian people all over this country praying have overwhelmed it," has summoned the "wind of God" to destroy the novel coronavirus during a recent sermon.
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.... Example of a likely false pastor/teacher - judge them by their bad/evil fruit or heart and works.
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post Apr 7 2020, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 7 2020 @ 04:59 PM)
Wonder if Jesus Christ was offensive when he referred to the mostly immoral and lawless Gentiles as dogs, pigs, etc.? 
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 7 2020, 08:12 PM)
Learn the Bible properly, Take notice.... whenever there are verses like this, even when our Lord Jesus saying it..................it is for you to take thought.. be wary of, not to throw it specifically at anyone or label a person you don't like.

If you think it's ok to be rude or it's okay to  curse/label other people as a Christian......I think you need to be sanctified in your mind and re-learn the Bible.
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So, your answer is, Jesus Christ was offensive when He labelled the mostly immoral and lawless Gentiles as dogs, pigs, etc.?

Good day.
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post Apr 7 2020, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 7 2020 @ 04:59 PM)
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2TIM.2: = Approved and Disapproved Workers

14 Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers. 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer.

Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” ...


I defend the word and the truth.

The bitch-word is OK to be used in the public sphere when referring to a female dog and something unpleasant, but is normally considered as offensive when referring to a sexually immoral woman.
....... The bitch-word can be taught in school because that was where I first learned the bitch-word as referring to a female dog. Similarly for the cock-word as referring to a male chicken.

Wonder if Jesus Christ was offensive when he referred to the mostly immoral and lawless Gentiles as dogs, pigs, etc.?

In USA, the politically-correct liberal Democrats have self-appointed themselves as the word-police, in order to pander for the votes of feminists, Hispanics, etc, eg to them it is "offensive" to use the word-illegal immigrants from Mexico and other nearby Hispanic countries = should use the word-undocumented immigrants.
....... Personally, I use the word-illegal immigrants and ignore the very vocal vote-pandering liberal Democrats and their supporters. Those from Mexico who trespass the US border unlawfully are illegal immigrants, not undocumented immigrants. That's the truth of the matter.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 7 2020, 07:51 PM)
Colossians 3:8 (NIV) - But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.

Ephesians 4:29 (NIV) - Let no unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building up the one in need and bringing grace to those who listen.

Ephesians 5:4 (NIV) - Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk, or crude joking, which are out of character, but rather thanksgiving.
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bitch

bitch
noun

bitch noun (ANIMAL)
a female dog

bitch noun (PROBLEM)
( S ) very informal
something that causes difficulties or problems, or that is unpleasant:
I've had a bitch of a week at work.

bitch noun (COMPLAINT)
( S ) very informal
the act of complaining or talking unkindly about people:
Most of us enjoy having a (good) bitch from time to time.

Idiom
life's a bitch (and then you die)


Nothing filthy or obscene about the above language for bitch. Same for karma's a bitch or payback's a bitch.

Good day.
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post Apr 7 2020, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 7 2020 @ 08:47 PM)
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bitch

bitch
noun

bitch noun (ANIMAL)
a female dog

bitch noun (PROBLEM)
( S ) very informal
something that causes difficulties or problems, or that is unpleasant:
I've had a bitch of a week at work.

bitch noun (COMPLAINT)
( S ) very informal
the act of complaining or talking unkindly about people:
Most of us enjoy having a (good) bitch from time to time.

Idiom
life's a bitch (and then you die)


Nothing filthy or obscene about the above language for bitch. Same for karma's a bitch or payback's a bitch.

Good day.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 7 2020, 08:53 PM)
If you decide for your ownself what is filthy or obscene, that is your own standard.

Would you think a Holy God would talk like how you talk?
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Did God Personally tell you that it is filthy and obscene to say 'karma's a bitch' or 'life's a bitch'.?

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post Apr 7 2020, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 7 2020, 09:02 PM)
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Did God Personally tell you that it is filthy and obscene to say 'karma's a bitch' or 'life's a bitch'.?

Good day.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 7 2020, 09:07 PM)
Try to find out what unwholesome means.
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Well, Cambridge language experts have determined that the use of the word-bitch in the above cases, including 'life's a bitch' and the similar 'karma's a bitch' is not offensive language = not filthy, obscene or unwholesome. In this case, I'll stick to the findings of the language experts like how we should stick to the findings of medical experts for the Wuhan virus/Covid-19 = better not listen to Ps Kenneth Copeland or the dead Ps Landon Spradlin of Virginia.

What does the Bible say about the Wuhan virus/Covid-19.?
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post Apr 8 2020, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 7 2020, 09:17 PM)
Well, Cambridge language experts have determined that the use of the word-bitch in the above cases, including 'life's a bitch' and the similar 'karma's a bitch' is not offensive language = not filthy, obscene or unwholesome. In this case, I'll stick to the findings of the language experts like how we should stick to the findings of medical experts for the Wuhan virus/Covid-19 = better not listen to Ps Kenneth Copeland or the dead Ps Landon Spradlin of Virginia.

What does the Bible say about the Wuhan virus/Covid-19.?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 7 2020, 09:33 PM)
World standard is just worldly lah. Not compatible with what a Holy God would require of us.

I think it is right to say we need to be careful in our speech.
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MATT.22:21 = And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”
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ROMANS.13: = Submit to Government

13 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.


Christians have been commanded to also obey their national governments of the world if the governments do general good for their nation, especially wrt law and order. God's judgment will strike Christians who disobey their goodly government, eg the 24 Catholic seminarians and priest in Penang who disobeyed the MCO and those Baptists who ignored government advice and attended a Kuching Church gathering at end Feb 2020(= one pastor died).

For languages of the world, world-class English dictionary companies like Cambridge, Merriam Webster and Oxford, are the "governing" or standardizing authorities, not the Bible or Concordance. Christians should obey such language standards of the world, eg wrt meanings and/or offensiveness/vulgarity of English words. There is no Bible standard for the English language, eg you cannot find the bitch-word that means a female dog, in the English Bible.
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post Apr 8 2020, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 8 2020 @ 11:57 AM)
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MATT.22:21 = And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”
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ROMANS.13: = Submit to Government

13 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.


Christians have been commanded to also obey their national governments of the world if the governments do general good for their nation, especially wrt law and order. God's judgment will strike Christians who disobey their goodly government, eg the 24 Catholic seminarians and priest in Penang who disobeyed the MCO and those Baptists who ignored government advice and attended a Kuching Church gathering at end Feb 2020(= one pastor died).

For languages of the world, world-class English dictionary companies like Cambridge, Merriam Webster and Oxford, are the "governing" or standardizing authorities, not the Bible or Concordance. Christians should obey such language standards of the world, eg wrt meanings and/or offensiveness/vulgarity of English words. There is no Bible standard for the English language, eg you cannot find the bitch-word that means a female dog, in the English Bible.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 8 2020, 02:41 PM)
Christians should follow standard of the world for what is offensive in language?
I don't think so.  shakehead.gif  What manner of standard do you follow? God or the world?
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/dickhead

dickhead
noun ( C )
offensive
an unpleasant or stupid person:
You dickhead - you dented the back of my car!
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/cunt

cunt
noun ( C )
offensive
an offensive word for a very unpleasant or stupid person:
You stupid cunt!
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fuck

fuck
verb ( I or T )
offensive
to have sex with someone

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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bitch

bitch
noun
bitch noun (ANIMAL)
( C )
a female dog

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Does the English Bible has a standard that list out all English words that are offensive or filthy or vulgar or unwholesome when used in a speech or writing.?

Does the Bible teach about social-distancing, proper hygience, wearing of face-masks, MCO and lockdowns to contain the Wuhan virus/Covid-19 pandemic.?
....... Should Christians disobey their national governments or Health Ministry/US CDC and WHO during this pandemic.?

Example of an offensive, filthy, vulgar and unwholesome public speaker, .......



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post Apr 8 2020, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 8 2020, 08:44 PM)
He follows Oxford dictionary, and how he deems it as the 'truth'

He may open a center called ' I CUNT FUCK DICKHEAD BIBLE CLASS'

Nothing offensive, don't be sensitive y'all.
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I believe you are quite new on this Christian Fellowship thread. Are you a Protestant Christian or a Roman Catholic Christian.?
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post Apr 9 2020, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 8 2020, 08:44 PM)
He follows Oxford dictionary, and how he deems it as the 'truth'

He may open a center called ' I CUNT FUCK DICKHEAD BIBLE CLASS'

Nothing offensive, don't be sensitive y'all.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 8 2020 @ 10:34 PM)
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I believe you are quite new on this Christian Fellowship thread. Are you a Protestant Christian or a Roman Catholic Christian.?
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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 9 2020, 11:19 AM)
It is. And I'm very vary of the things of the World on what's common = what's right (drugs, prostitutes, gay marriage, incest, swinging, and FOUL WORDS)

And soon some Christians may justify the act of incest as it's in the Bible.

Or swinging - as a word invented by God.

Using God's name to do Earthly pleasure. This is real fuck (still sound gentle to some Christians - nothing offensive)

I believe this thread is for fellowship and I hope for more encouragement and not about who's right or which sect is better. And for those who twist God's word, I'm pissed for once.
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Since you refused to answer my question and stated you believed this thread is for fellowship = not just only for Christian Fellowship, I believe I can take it that you are a non-Christian. Seems, you hate anti-feminist Christians(eg who use the bitch-word in non-offensive settings) and seek to cause major division in this Christian Fellowship thread.

Are you also a strident feminist.?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 9 2020, 09:42 AM)
When Man on his own decides by himself what is offensive it becomes a problem. Every person has different standard and differs from one another.

You realize, in the old days even on TV, vulgar words are very much prohibited BUT by today's standard it is a norm even in movies.

I won't be surprise if he says looking at pornography is not a problem going by that kind of standard.

Romans 3:4

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ROMANS.14: = The Law of Liberty

14 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. 4 Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.

5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. 9 For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written:

“As I live, says the Lord,
Every knee shall bow to Me,
And every tongue shall confess to God.”

12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. 13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.

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post Apr 9 2020, 01:54 PM

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[quote=gashout,Apr 9 2020, 12:13 PM]
[quote=lurkingaround @ Apr 9 2020, 11:49 AM]
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Since you refused to answer my question and stated you believed this thread is for fellowship = not just only for Christian Fellowship, I believe I can take it that you are a non-Christian. Seems, you hate anti-feminist Christians(eg who use the bitch-word in non-offensive settings) and seek to cause major division in this Christian Fellowship thread.

Are you also a strident feminist.?

I don't answer your question because you think God either belongs to Man U or Man City. And you think other clubs don't exist. And too narrow minded such a thinking of yours. And I'll stop it there.

Don't accuse me something you don't know about. God will judge you the way you judge others. Know well your verse but not practicing it?

Division? What division? Read back my post what my belief is.

Bible also says do not speak with fools. That I truly believe.

No one is putting a stumbling block on you but yourself. So blind to see what's right and wrong. Hence I'll stop it there.
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Why are refusing to answer my question whether you are a Christian or not, unless you have something to hide from us Christians here on this Christian Fellowship thread.?

We need to know your answer because non-Christians likely have a hidden agenda when they "fellowship" with us Christians here on this thread, eg the Muslim, aral3005, who recently came on this thread trying to prove to Christians here that Jesus Christ was/is not God, ie just a mere human prophet. Christians fellowshipping with aral3005 here on this thread can be charged in Malaysian court for proselytizing to a Muslim.
........ IOW, we need to know where you are coming from, especially with your hate and vulgar/filthy/offensive speech or posts above.

So far from your non-answers or elusive replies, it is quite certain you are a non-Christian.

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post Apr 9 2020, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Apr 9 2020, 01:23 PM)
The Deadly Team of Sin and Law

Resource by John Piper
Scripture: Romans 7:7–13  

Topic: The Power & Effects of Sin
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I have a simpler and shorter explanation.

In 1500 BC, God gave His Law to Moses and the Jews to curb fallen Man's inborn or in-the-heart propensity for doing wickedness or sinfulness or evilness(GEN.6:5) that was caused by their inherited Adam's Original Sin, which also resulted in spiritual death = being bound for hell when they die - GEN.2:17.
....... God regretted creating Man and wanted to destroy all of them with the Great Flood of Noah, and maybe re-create everything again.

The Law showed fallen Man how sinful and lawless they were on the inside, eg the law of "You shall not commit adultery" raised up their involuntary or unintentional inner sin-in-thoughts or sin-in-the-heart of immoral sexual lust for an attractive woman, eg King David and Bathsheba.(MATT.5:27-30) The Law proves that all Man have been born sinful with inherited Adam's Original Sin(ROMANS.5:12) and are deservedly bound for hell when they die = they need a Saviour/Christ/Messiah/Lamb of God to save them from hell through faith in Him. So, the outer voluntary or intentional keeping of the Law with their eyes and limbs would not save them from hell, eg did not intentionally commit idolatry, murder, adultery, etc, because the root problem lies with their hearts, not their eyes and limbs.

If there had been no law against adultery, most fallen Man would be "happily" swinging/wife-swapping and fornicating without feeling any guilt and condemnation of hell, like most of the world today. The Old Covenant of the Law says that only those Jews who had kept the Law were saved from hell. This was changed by the New Covenant of faith in Christ.

With being saved from hell by faith in Jesus Christ, the believers' hearts and minds would also be converted or born-again of the Holy Spirit of God - HEB.8:10 & 10:15, thus able to walk in the Spirit, produce the inner fruit of the Spirit and easily keep the Law, either fully or partially - ACTS.15:21:20-25 & 15:19-29. Hence, MATT.7:15-23 says that false prophets/pastors/teachers are shown by their bad/evil inner fruit and outer works of the flesh - GAL.5:19-21.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 9 2020 @ 01:54 PM)
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Why are refusing to answer my question whether you are a Christian or not, unless you have something to hide from us Christians here on this Christian Fellowship thread.?

We need to know your answer because non-Christians likely have a hidden agenda when they "fellowship" with us Christians here  on this thread, eg the Muslim, aral3005, who recently came on this thread trying to prove to Christians here that Jesus Christ was/is not God, ie just a mere human prophet. Christians fellowshipping with aral3005 here on this thread can be charged in Malaysian court for proselytizing to a Muslim.
........ IOW, we need to know where you are coming from, especially with your hate and vulgar/filthy/offensive speech or posts above.

So far from your non-answers or elusive replies, it is quite certain you are a non-Christian.

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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 9 2020, 02:05 PM)
Christianity is a faith - not for everyone to hang around their lips whispering, I am a Christian.

Now tell me,

Is incest allowed?

What about Swingers?

What about rape?

All these are words invented by so called God.

You try to look smart but you look foolish - I have said the answers can be found in my past posts in what my belief is. Go find it. Answers aren't always thrown to your face.

So far I have never said Jesus isn't God, so please don't change the topic. and equate our discussion to "is Jesus God". and even if they do, I welcome them to ask, as asking and thirsting for knowledge/truth is first path to knowing God.

In conclusion, seek more and answers will come to you. And finally, don't assume all females are stupid and if they dare to ask a question, you equate them as a strident feminist.
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(quote=AmIRight? @ Jan 17 2020, 06:49 PM)
semoga Allah berikan awak hidayah dan kembali ke jalan yang benar(/quote)
QUOTE(gashout @ Jan 17 2020 @ 08:55 PM)
Jalan yang benar tak pernah memaksa orang.

Tuhan semenjak dahulu yang bagi adalah PILIHAN. dan dalam pilihan, kita perlu bgertanggungjawab atasnya.

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(quote=jalsrix @ Jan 20 2020, 07:05 PM)
If you are a Muslim from birth and a Malay, it is impossible in Malaysia because the law prohibits it.

Because definition of Malay = Muslim. (/quote)
QUOTE(gashout @ Jan 20 2020 @ 09:36 PM)
Very sad case.

When Quran says clear.

There's no compulsion in religion - Verse 256 of Al-Baqara 
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4893153 - post #12 #3 #5 etc.

(quote=palankon @ Feb 4 2020, 07:12 AM)
sekarang ni siapa yang tak give a fuck? aku rasa sajat yang tak give fuck tapi orang macam kau yang give a fuck. kau ada add instagram dia ke? (/quote)
QUOTE(gashout @ Feb 4 2020 @ 07:35 AM)
Betul.

Rakyat Malaysia suka membawang. Add Instagram dia kemudian butt hurt. Membawang dalam ajaran Islam ke?

Tak suka, janganlah tengok. Macam makanan babi dan arak sama saja. Kenapa suka mudah butt hurt? Dia macam babi. Tak suka jgnlah tengok. Tapi segenlintir orang suka mejerit untuk Islam, tatkala sebenarnya hati hamsap mahu tahu mcm mana organ badan Sajat. Lebih ingin menyentuhnya. Janganlah buat bodoh sekarang.

Korupsi negara tak peduli. Diskriminasi di Malaysia tak peduli. Tiba Tiba Nak jadi penegak Islam.

Nak salahkan seseorang, suruhlah Mekkah update system mereka yang mengakibatkan hal ni berlaku.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4900779/+40 - > As muslim are you angry with Sajat action ?, For muslim forumer discussion only . - post #58

Please explain your past "Islamic" posts.

Are you now an ex-Muslim.? Which denomination of the Christian Church do you adhere to.? Eg I'm Baptist, unknown warrior is Charismatic and yeeck is Roman Catholic.
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PS - How come you did not berate palankon for saying the offensive/vulgar/filtyh fuck-word.? To you, do Muslims have a pass or license to speak/post such words.? Do you have double-standards against certain Christians.?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 9 2020, 11:29 AM)
God send someone to help me when my car finished petrol in middle of the road. Happened just before the Lockdown, not too long ago.

There's a guy was just standing there......looking at me then approached me...I thought the person wanted to charge me money, offering help to repair my car.

But no.....he help me pushed my car to a petrol station.

I was muttering under my breath...God help me.

I believe the person was God sent. May or may not be a real Angel but an "angel" to my help.

God has been showing grace after grace.

I testify this to the reality and Glory of of our Father in heaven.
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Wasn't this also around the time you were under a lengthy ban by a LYN Moderator for breaking the Rules and Regulations.?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ pr 9 2020 @ 03:41 PM)
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(quote=AmIRight? @ Jan 17 2020, 06:49 PM)
semoga Allah berikan awak hidayah dan kembali ke jalan yang benar(/quote)

(quote=jalsrix @ Jan 20 2020, 07:05 PM)
If you are a Muslim from birth and a Malay, it is impossible in Malaysia because the law prohibits it.

Because definition of Malay = Muslim. (/quote)  https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4893153 - post #12 #3 #5 etc.

(quote=palankon @ Feb 4 2020, 07:12 AM)
sekarang ni siapa yang tak give a fuck? aku rasa sajat yang tak give fuck tapi orang macam kau yang give a fuck. kau ada add instagram dia ke? (/quote)
QUOTE(gashout @ Feb 4 2020 @ 07:35 AM)

Betul.

Rakyat Malaysia suka membawang. Add Instagram dia kemudian butt hurt. Membawang dalam ajaran Islam ke?

Tak suka, janganlah tengok. Macam makanan babi dan arak sama saja. Kenapa suka mudah butt hurt? Dia macam babi. Tak suka jgnlah tengok. Tapi segenlintir orang suka mejerit untuk Islam, tatkala sebenarnya hati hamsap mahu tahu mcm mana organ badan Sajat. Lebih ingin menyentuhnya. Janganlah buat bodoh sekarang.

Korupsi negara tak peduli. Diskriminasi di Malaysia tak peduli. Tiba Tiba Nak jadi penegak Islam.

Nak salahkan seseorang, suruhlah Mekkah update system mereka yang mengakibatkan hal ni berlaku. 
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4900779/+40 - > As muslim are you angry with Sajat action ?, For muslim forumer discussion only . - post #58

Please explain your past "Islamic" posts.

Are you now an ex-Muslim.? Which denomination of the Christian Church do you adhere to.? Eg I'm Baptist, unknown warrior is Charismatic and yeeck is Roman Catholic.
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PS - How come you did not berate palankon for saying the offensive/vulgar/filtyh fuck-word.? To you, do Muslims have a pass or license to speak/post such words.? Do you have double-standards against certain Christians.?
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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 9 2020, 05:51 PM)
Yes, and so, I rest my case.
It's last day of Lord's supper today, tomorrow it's Good Friday and Sunday, Easter Day.

It's a week more important than Christmas itself.

May we ponder, celebrate His death and resurrection, and claiming victory on behalf of humankind.

And when He says ''It is finished.', it is indeed finished.

God bless.
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Since you refused to explain yourself and state your Christian denomination, I am quite wary of your above Christian statement, eg why did you post on a Muslim-only thread and did not berate the Muslim for posting the offensive fuck-word 3 times in a row.?
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QUOTE(gashout @ March 18 2020, 09:49 AM)
Don't forget Air Selangor, water cut.

Then ask people no panic buying.

Use what wipe arse.

This is a down the hill country.

How Sri Petaling tabligh became Southeast Asia's Covid-19 hotspot

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2020/03/...ovid-19-hotspot

Now we are infamous again. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4925254 - post #9

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/arse

arse

noun [ C ]
UK offensive
uk
/ɑːs/ us
/ɑːrs/
(US ass)

the part of your body that you sit on:
She has a huge arse.

a stupid person
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arse

exclamation
UK offensive
uk
/ɑːs/ us
/ɑːrs/

used when you feel annoyed

QUOTE(gashout @ March 18 2020, 08:45 AM)
I am not a fan of Darwin's law. ....
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4925169/+100 - this is why we're fucked - post #113

Why did you use the offensive/vulgar/filthy arse-word in your recent post.?

Why did you post on the thread topic - "this is why we're fucked" - with a vulgar/filthy/offensive word in it.?

Hypocrite much.?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 9 2020, 09:01 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4925254 - post #9

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/arse

arse

noun [ C ]
UK offensive
uk
/ɑːs/ us
/ɑːrs/
(US ass)

the part of your body that you sit on:
She has a huge arse.

a stupid person
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arse

exclamation
UK offensive
uk
/ɑːs/ us
/ɑːrs/

used when you feel annoyed

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4925169/+100 - this is why we're fucked - post #113

Why did you use the offensive/vulgar/filthy arse-word in your recent post.?

Why did you post on the thread topic - "this is why we're fucked" - with a vulgar/filthy/offensive word in it.?

Hypocrite much.?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 7 2020, 07:51 PM)
Colossians 3:8 (NIV) - But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.

Ephesians 4:29 (NIV) - Let no unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building up the one in need and bringing grace to those who listen.

Ephesians 5:4 (NIV) - Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk, or crude joking, which are out of character, but rather thanksgiving.
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 9 2020, 09:34 PM)
In those 2 examples, he didn't use it derogatively.

1. Refering to backside.

2. He didn't even utter the F word. Someone else did.
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ROMANS.1 & 2 = 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

God’s Righteous Judgment

2 Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who practice such things. 3 And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God?


4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? 5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: 7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; 8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, 9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; 10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God.


gashout is very likely a she or young woman. All 3 different meanings of the arse-word are offensive/vulgar/filthy, no matter how she used it, ie in the 3 different ways.

When she posted on the thread with the F-word, it meant she approved of the TS who posted the F-word. Similarly, on the other thread, she replied cordially to a Muslim poster who posted the F-word 3 times in a row. But on this Christian Fellowship thread, she went feminist and ballistic with me for posting "karma is a bitch" which is not offensive/vulgar/filthy in its use because the bitch-word has 4 different meanings with only one meaning being offensive, ie when used for an unpleasant woman. She is hypocrite much.?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 5 2020 @ 03:00 PM)
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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/world/2020/...for-coronavirus -  With obesity and diabetes epidemic, Mexico braces for coronavirus - Friday, 27 Mar 2020
''''''' Mexico had 475 confirmed cases of COVID-19 - the illness caused by the virus - and six deaths by Thursday. Four of those who died had diabetes and two suffered from hypertension - both conditions that can exacerbate the illness. A seventh Mexican who died in Peru also had diabetes. While four of the victims were over age 60, the other two were 55 and 41. '''''''

Most of those who died from the Wuhan virus/Covid-19 had underlying diseases, especially diabetes and hypertension. Type-2 diabetes is often caused by a lifestyle of laziness and/or gluttony. Hypertension is often caused by a lifestyle of gluttony for meat or foods high in cholesterol(= sticky stuffs). So, these deaths may likely be a case of 'you reap what you sow' or 'karma is a bitch' or padan muka. .......

PROV.19 & 23: = 19:15 Laziness casts one into a deep sleep,
And an idle person will suffer hunger.

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He who keeps the commandment keeps his soul,
But he who is careless of his ways will die.

23:20
Do not mix with winebibbers,
Or with gluttonous eaters of meat;
 
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 9 2020, 09:34 PM)
I'll tell you why you're being rebuked.

1st of all, we don't believe in karma. Karma is  hinduism/buddhism perspective where it touches not only in the current life but also on past life ie matter of rebirth.

2ndly to use the b word in that context is rather crude. When you use it in the context of padan muka, you said those people who died in corona virus deserve it,

That is being rude. You're being judgemental.
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https://english.stackexchange.com/questions...s-karma-a-bitch

''''''' The English slang usage of karma has almost nothing to do with the underlying spiritual concepts. I doubt very many people who use karma even know what dharma is, or any other aspect of Hinduism or Buddhism. So while this is interesting, it does not really explain what the slang expression means. – choster Apr 18 '14 at 14:32 '''''''

''''''' In the Dictionary of Modern Proverbs, "Payback is a bitch" has a first cited occurrence from 1970, and "Life is a bitch" has a first cited occurrence from 1940 (and subsequent variations "Life is a bitch and then you die" [1982] and "Life is a bitch and then you marry one" [1987]). It's unclear whether "Payback is a bitch" is an outgrowth of "Life is a bitch," but I think it's likely, given the similarity in their focus on retribution, that "Karma is a bitch" is a mutation of "Payback is a bitch." answered Jul 25 '15 at 21:10
Sven Yargs '''''''

''''''' Also used as the rhetorical question

Ain't karma a bitch?

Synonyms:

What goes around, comes around
Getting his just desserts
He had it coming

and strongly related to

Payback's a bitch

It is likely a mix of having bad Karma and the idiom Payback's a bitch, where Payback is performed by someone wronged by the now punished person, but Karma just happened to the person for some seemingly righteous reason not necessarily related to a person or physical entity.

The bitch part is personifying the concept Karma, which is claimed to have doled out the resulting punishment.

It is a taunt aimed at a person who is supposedly asking for the situation he is in, due to his previous actions.

So the person saying it, considers the one he says it to or about deserves to be punished because of something they did.

For example: someone is so busy pointing and laughing at a person who had an accident, that he walks straight into a lamp post and breaks his nose. His friend who did not find the accident they saw funny, could say "Ain't Karma a bitch?"

Here is a short movie giving a good idea: Karma's A Bitch from Justin Tan (Likely NSFW for some)
answered Jul 31 '13 at 6:02 mplungjan '''''''
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The Bible does say that "we reap what we sow" and curses for sinners/law-breakers and blessings for do-gooders/law-keepers. So, those who lead a lifestyle of laziness and/or gluttony for foods and/or meats are just getting their just desserts of late-in-life diabetes and/or hypertension as a matter of fact. It is also a fact that most Wuhan virus/Covid-19 deaths are diabetics and/or hypertensives. It is not rude to state a fact of truth. Similarly, many Jews were offended when Jesus stated the truth about them going to hell if they rejected Him as their Messiah/Christ/Saviour. The truth can offend but the truth is not an offensive word. Similarly for "karma's a bitch".

JOHN.6: = Many Disciples Turn Away

60 Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a hard saying; who can understand it?”

61 When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, “Does this offend you? 62 What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. 64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. 65 And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”

66 From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more. 67 Then Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also want to go away?”

68 But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

70 Jesus answered them, “Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil?” 71 He spoke of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, for it was he who would betray Him, being one of the twelve.


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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 9 2020, 05:48 PM)
Thank you for clarifying my position.

Saya boleh cakap/tulis/baca Bahasa Malaysia sebab saya orang Malaysia dan sudah muak dengan gejala Islam palsu yang diajar di Malaysia, terutamanya PAS dan UMNO, yang kemudiannya membuli minoriti rakyat yang tinggal di Malaysia. Berkenaan dengan agama lain, saya tidak ada hak untuk memperlikan agama lain selain daripada manjaga hikmat ajaran agam saya sendiri.

Don't hate me just because my BM is good - I am flattered. Terima kasih. Don't even equate English to Christianity - there are people who are Christians who speak and worship in Malay- because that's their culture.

我也可以写华文,别以为我是佛教徒。

And no harm in knowing other faith as well - there is a reason why they are there - even the cult (Maybe he thinks I am Jehovah now - smartie)

God bless.
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This does not prove you are a practicing Christian. For all we know, you could be an East Malaysian ex-Muslim interested in Christianity.

Just tell us, which Christian denomination do you adhere to, if you have one.? Proper Christian Fellowship requires the participants to be upfront and honest about their "brand" of Christianity, so that others know where they are coming from wrt their doctrinal beliefs.

The different Christian denominations should practice the following and not kill each other or condemn/judge each other over non-essential matters, ie only the essential unifying salvation by faith in Jesus Christ matters.(= not by the works of keeping the Law or other beliefs)
....... So what if a Christian chooses to commit sins leading to death or not leading to death or to go and commit sins no more.? To each his/her own wrt the judgment of God/Christ in this life and in the afterlife, as per listed in the Bible or Word of God. ......

In Essentials Unity. In Non-essentials Liberty. In All Things the Love of Christ.

Always Keep the Faith.

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https://www.ddtonline.com/news/temple-bapti...d.Ds5cnuqj.dpbs - Temple Baptist Church members issued $500 tickets for parking lot service - By JON ALVERSON - Thu, 04/09/2020

Social distancing includes the stay-at-home order issued by President Trump/Federal government to contain the Wuhan virus/Covid-19 outbreak. Christians are not supposed to leave their homes to attend drive-in or in-person Church services.

Christians should obey their local or national governments or Caesar, especially generally-good governments, as long as they are not required to deny their faith in Jesus Christ/God = lose salvation - MATT.22:21, ROMANS.13:1-9.
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Alas, a time is coming soon when the powerful governments of the world will require by law everyone to receive the "mark of the beast"(= likely to be computer chip implants), in order to be able to continue to buy or sell stuffs - REV.13:11-18 & 14:9-11. Christians have been commanded by Jesus Christ/God to refuse this mark, otherwise they will lose their salvation. The governments will be prosecuting/persecuting all those who refuse to receive the mark or computer chip implants, or leave them alone to starve to death.
....... Here, Christians can see how faith in Jesus Christ will include the faith in obeying His commandment/law to reject the "mark of the beast", in order to remain saved from hell even if they are martyred by their powerful government.

Today, if foolish or misguided Christians go and commit intentional or willful sins/law-breaking, as per GAL.5:19-21 and 1COR.6:9-11, they too may end up like those who will deny Christ by accepting the "mark of the beast", in order to save their lives from death through starvation or from being prosecuted/persecuted by their worldly government. Why.? = because Jesus Christ is also the Law/Word of God - JOHN.1:1 & 14 & 6:63. Faith in Him for salvation = faith in His Word/Law to remain saved from hell.

For Gentile Christians, God has graciously exempted them from the burdensome parts of His Law/Word - ACTS.15:19-29 - and given them time to grow from babes-in-Christ(= just born-again of the Holy Spirit of God) to adults-in-Christ by gradually feeding on the Law/Word of God = spiritual milk to spiritual solid food = the bread of life = eat His flesh and drink His blood - JOHN.6:54.
....... This reasonable given-time is not unlimited, eg after 30 or 40 years as a Gentile Christian but he/she still remains a babe-in-Christ, often walking in the flesh = committing intentional or willful sins/law-breaking.(= will likely be spat out by God/Jesus from His kingdom.?) Ideally, such a long-time Gentile Christian should already be walking fully in the Spirit = showing the inner fruit of the Spirit and easily keeping His Law outwardly by the power of the Holy Spirit of God through the Word/Law implanted by God in their hearts and minds.

HEB.6:1-8 states the Peril of Not Progressing in spiritual growth for Christians, eg those Gentile Christians who are stuck in the elementary principles of Christ of the 16th-century teaching by Martin Luther about salvation by faith in Jesus Christ alone, and not by the works of the Law or other beliefs, eg they are little aware of the end times, the coming of the lawless one and his "mark of the beast", and then the Coming of the Day of the Lord Jesus who will 'consume' the lawless one - eg 2THESS.2:1-13, 2TIM.3:1-4, etc. .......

MATT.24: (NKJV) = 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

The Faithful Servant and the Evil Servant

45 “Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. 47 Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods. 48 But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ 49 and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, 50 the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, 51 and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

(see JOHN.21:15)
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