Hey guys, I'm a female ex muslim, my bf is a Christian. We plan to be together in the future but it's hard if we want to migrate because we got our stable jobs here. I'd like to know, if we got married only in church and families, what about our children? Can I give birth in another country, and then send my children to private school? Can it work this way?

Hi Shaaa, speaking of this, your background is the issue, your bf isn't a problem. In Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, and Brunei, anyone marrying a Muslim has to convert as well. In your case, they call it apostasy, I call it freedom to choose one's faith.

Sadly, you may bring your case to fight in court which will incur a lot of money and possibly no conclusion out of it.

Famous case here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Joy

The ruling stated that "a person who wanted to renounce his/her religion must do so according to existing laws or practices of the particular religion. Only after the person has complied with the requirements and the authorities are satisfied that the person has apostatised, can she embrace Christianity.... In other words, a person cannot, at one's whims and fancies renounce or embrace a religion."[10]

Registration of marriage overseas apart from the 4 countries will not help either when the government wants official documents when it comes to government matters such as your children's school etc.

You may hide once, but you may not hide away forever - that's the benefit of being Malaysian - you belong to that community and should be enjoying those facilities and services. There will be schooling, then university, then healthcare, then buying properties etc. Would you want your kids to be like foreigners and they will one day wonder why.

Your children may have to end up being a Muslim on IC and face the same problems like you when you grow up.

We can only hope religion faith goes back to individual and not imposed by institution in Malaysia one day.

If you look Malay it is better to migrate or there will be no peace for you here.

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...p-for-m/1828698

Didn’t know got death sentence, confirm ?

Whats wrong with your husband convert to muslim by law and live however you wanna be?

Many Chinese convert to muslim when they married a muslim, and still live their old way of life, like consuming pork, alcohol etc.

I remember in Indonesia you can merry non muslim without converting.

You might need to get a lawyer help for your problem.

You are not the only 1 faced this problem. I know someone born in Christian family but converted to Islam when they are still kid due to mother remerry a Muslim. It's against their will..now they have problem to merry non muslim

Will it be a trap undergoing such a process for born muslims? New converts might have a chance though but still slim

It's a problem coz Islam (Jakim) will interfere with our everydays' life. It's fine if only me stay in hotel california, I dont want to drag someone else in it too.

semoga Allah berikan awak hidayah dan kembali ke jalan yang benar

Jalan yang benar tak pernah memaksa orang.

Tuhan semenjak dahulu yang bagi adalah PILIHAN. dan dalam pilihan, kita perlu bgertanggungjawab atasnya.

Amin.

Thats bull

Nobody got time to intefere your everyday life.

You cannot say that since things like this actually happen

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/m...picnic-12152266

Noone can promise this is not going to happen to TS husband. The risk is small if he doesn't look Malay and they stay out of the more conservative states. But maybe will enforce laws like this in more states in future.

This post has been edited by PATAR: Jan 17 2020, 11:11 PM

if you really want to avoid getting caught with red tapes - get married outside of Malaysia, in a country where interfaith marriage is not an issue and the come back but you may have a problem certifying your marriage here for official purposes.

mohon pencerahan apakah "jalan yang benar" yang dimaksudkan oleh saudara/saudari?

Terima kasih je. Semoga Yeshua beri awak hidayah juga, amen.

You Muslim before this. Any prove? You had pronounce Syahadah, can read al-fatihah, puasa during ramadhan?

Or you just a fake account .

Er i’m malay.
And i’m agnostic.
My gf (different race and religion) got no issue to convert.

As long as my father/happy that’s enough for me. You just got label islam in ur ic does not mean u need to practice it.

Its almost impossible to explain to religious people why u want to get out. Its like discussing with people that have a mental illness disease and delusion.

Or its just like u wakeup in the morning and then you realise that suddenly everyone around you are zombies!

And its pointless to explain to them, instead just pretend ur zombie too and flow with them.

But you can just live urlife as usual, as non religious without they even need to know. You can sambut raya, every festival and be happy with ur family like usual.
No brainer, 0% stress.

All u need todo just feel pity to them, and hope they gonna get cure.


P/S most politicians and royalty in Malaysian and arabs are agnostic or atheism too. The elite always first to know the truth than the sheep. Yet they still pretend they are religious for the sake of power.

This post has been edited by Gyazo: Jan 19 2020, 11:20 AM

Ah, so I c u'r a Christian. That being d case, u hav to put yor faith in Christ, & live truthfully as a Christian couple. Surely God is more powerful than any gov or society on earth.