Primacy 4 advantage is more towards safe braking distance in wet & dry even when new or wear situations, they are going for the safety route.
If talking about grip thru corners, handling, anti-aquaplaning or even silent tires they are not on the throne now. In the end is all depends on the owner which requirement he wants and do some research.

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2019-...r-Tyre-Test.htm

For me i would prefer Bridgestone Turanza T005 over Primacy 4. Dry, Wet handling, wet braking and even noise already passed Primacy 4, losing only dry braking.

This post has been edited by littlefire: Oct 26 2020, 10:00 AM

Thanks

I can see that Conti is not there. The list looks pretty right. I believe in PS4 since I used PS2 before. Eagle F1 definitely damn good in the rain.

However the Conti mc6 is just cheap. Wondering if it's just because it's produced in Malaysia

MC6 was benchmark against PS4 when it was launched..

twitchy ie.. at times not predictable especially on uneven corners. probably because of softer side walls?

hahha...maybe you are regular in the tyre market and can get wholesale prices! I have asked around and PS4 for my size is at least RM 760 and above . I meant around TMN OUG and Old Klang road area. I know Klang is cheaper but the hassle of driving there. As for my MC6, i checked lazada and shopee ler....the prices are not far off. Dont know....bought and using liao.


Yeah...i was told Shah alam and klang area can get good deal for tyres. Maybe i will try GY for my the other ride when its due for a change!

Third day of usage , tyre noise is very minimal! The breaking on dry is very impressive! Havent got chance to try on wet yet.

Continental Malaysia CLAIMS MC6 to be rival to PS4 without data or proof of comparison other than marketing talk, but IMHO talk is cheap!

Hmm twitchy is not good. Predictability is a critical criteria of a good tire.

No la, just quick browsing in mudah can easily get prices in various places in Klang Valley. Lazada and Shopee are never good prices for tires.

Dunno why, but I really likes ur words..It can be a killer weapon. Its like a headshot nia. Can use ur words in kopitiam section sometimes. lol.

Hahaha it is possible to find so called value for money products. I also honestly like to try find those but not easy, need more time and patients, and only down to a certain extent or level, cannot be too cheap so need to set certain level of expectations and more reasonable price level. For example:
- some cheaper clothes and shoes are just as nice and long lasting as expensive ones
- cheaper foods sometimes nicer than those in expensive restaurants
- Hankook V12E2 or Falken FK510 are good substitute for PS4
- Konig Hypergram is a good substitute for Enkei RPF1
- Works BOV and airfilters are good substitute for Turbosmart and K&N ones.
Etc2.

I used the Conti CSC3 vs Michelin PS2/Toyo T1R/Eagle F1 Asym back in 2008.

Seriously the Conti CSC3 was so bad. Wheel spin at traffic light and during rain it aquaplan. While the PS2/T1R/F1 cut through the rain easily, especially the T1R and F1 but they are not very good cornering tires. PS2 was the most well balanced but expensive and wear very fast. However CSC3 is a quiet tire. Good for Uncle and Mercedes drivers.


Conti CSC3
Dry - 6/10
Wet - 1/10
Quiet and comfort - 8/10
Cornering - 2/10. No confident to try. Later end up in longkang.
Durability - Don't know. Throw the tire about 3000km. Too dangerous in the rain.

Michelin PS2
Dry - 9/10
Wet - 7/10
Cornering - 9/10
Quiet and comfort - 7/10
Durability - 7/10

Toyo T1R
Dry - 9/10
Wet - 9/10
Cornering - 7/10. Not so precise but it's a directional tire.
Quiet and comfort - 5/10. Noisy and hard but grip druing wet is excellent.
Durability - 9/10. Most durable out of all 4.

Eagle F1 Asym
Dry - 9/10
Wet - 8/10. T1R better somehow
Cornering - 7/10. Not so precise also
Quiet and comfort - 6/10. Slightly better than T1R
Durability - 8/10. Almost as good as F1

Having said all that, I might end up buying MC6. Cheap ma. Using it for my car I only drive once a week or so. Not sports car but old car I kind of retired but not gonna sell.

Let me know in wet how.

Btw what car you using? Let me know when it rains and there's a water on left side of fast lane, whether the tires can cut through or not.

Thanks

Noted anyway all those are pretty old models so better buy newer models nowadays. Besides MC6, I would recommend you to also try check out Falken FK510 or Goodyear F1 Sport.

how about Yoko Flevas?

Generally just meh tire, maybe decent in the dry (but easy to squeal) and weak in the wet. I'd say not worth it since the price is rather high too. I'd personally choose the new RE004 over this, at least the RE004 is proven good grip in the dry eventhough wet also might be rather weak.

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2019-...r-Tyre-Test.htm

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...r-Tyre-Test.htm

after a week or so of driving, below are my own conclusions.

1. doesnt feel like its a UHP tyre at at all , the tyre i felt is quite soft! More towards comfy side!

2. Dont really dare to take sharp corner without braking as i felt the tyre is on the soft side!

3. Dry braking is impressive !

4. its quite a quiet tyre compared to my previous set! Noise level is very low.

5. cruising is quite stable even at 130km/h and no 'floating' feel!

6. Passing through a patch of water pool at 80km/h is also impressive! the tyre 'cut' through quite well!

7.Steering response is quite fast and accurate !

please excuse me for my poor writing as i am not good at writing reviews.

P/s: This set of MC6 is fitted on a W205 C250 AMG line.

Good review👍

So if it's too soft for cornering won't it be unsafe to go through a corner when it rains.

Hmm contradictory between point no.1 & 2. Vs no. 7. Do you feel like no. 7 relative to other comfort touring tires/cheap models, or compared to proper top UHP like F1/PS3&4/CSC5?

As for no.6, have you tried driving in heavy wet above 100kph on it?

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Oct 31 2020, 03:47 PM

This was in comparison to my previous CSC5 . I felt that the tyre is soft compared to my previous UHP csc5. I dont have confidence in bending sharp corner with this MC6 compared to my CSC5. As i am not expert in tyres, i just felt the steering and the tyre sync quite well and accurate! As for the heavy rain test, yet to have a chance. I did have a set of indon Achilles tyre on my W204 before and i felt that set of tyres were more solid than this MC6. Nonetheless i am quite satisfied with this tyre considered the price that i paid for it compared to the price of PS4. I am more concerned on braking and aquaplaning rather than sharp cornering! Hope that i explained myself clear.

Your experience confirms though what I have suspected all along, this MC6 is more of a touring tire or at best just entry level/borderline UHP, cannot really compete with true UHP like CSC5/PS4/F1. No wonder Continental Malaysia never comes up with real comparison to back up their marketing claims that this is UHP to rival PS4.

from the bottom, after cc6, uc6, is mc6... and mc6 is upgrade from mc5 touring lineage... performance definitely no where near ps4/f1ss, etc... but price is also cheap no where near the top... so ok lah

225/45/18 - p4 480, mc6 450, t005a 430... vs ps4 600

This post has been edited by dwRK: Oct 31 2020, 08:10 PM

Yeah just that during launch Continental Malaysia bragged that the MC6 is to rival PS4.