not too bad actually... ps4~600 vs mc6~450

not too interested in it though...looking at maxx050+ & f1 sport

got another car for comfy driving... so consider moving back to zoom zoom tires...

so far my "research" indicates American tires very bad in the wet... USA is very dry country and don't rain a lot so I think their manufacturers don't place too much design for summer tire wet driving

from the bottom, after cc6, uc6, is mc6... and mc6 is upgrade from mc5 touring lineage... performance definitely no where near ps4/f1ss, etc... but price is also cheap no where near the top... so ok lah

225/45/18 - p4 480, mc6 450, t005a 430... vs ps4 600

This post has been edited by dwRK: Oct 31 2020, 08:10 PM

I scanned through 30+ launch coverage... only 2 publications mentioned rival ps4... maybe is kiss ass "reporters" trying to get free review tires...

found this...


and this...


and more... this got comparison with ps4, re003...

225/45/17 >> https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/75335091
245/45/18 >> https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/65920020

hmm... ok shortlist lah...

This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 3 2020, 12:01 AM

i use google translate ah...

eye opening...

mc6 outbreaked pzero from a Korean test... so results match with the powerpoint

got info from korean/japanese websites/videos too.. but don't understand a single word they saying ... hahaha

just to add... 17" tests above done using vw golf, looks like mk 7, they didn't say gti or tsi, but i think probably tsi...

so if using other cars with different front-rear balance and brake bias will obliviously give slightly different results...

my other take-away is china tyre overall sucks... hahaha

speedy3210 thanks for the hard work...

tldr: MC6 & P4 are awesome...but sucks when heavy raid and flooded roads...

This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 4 2020, 11:46 AM

r&d, market segmentation, marketing/creaming, etc...

we are also generally conditioned to believe more expensive = better... hahaha

uhp I think means got 20“, low profiles, high speed & load rating...lol

that's why my favorite uhp is s1n2...try to buy again but no more

mc6 have softer rubber design for malaysian's jkr roads...hahaha. in a separate Korean video, tread wear was quite bad imho after track racing

This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 4 2020, 04:20 PM

just throwing my s1n2 into the fray...since comfy p4/mc6 doing so well against ps4/re003... hahaha

i know your definition of uhp is "can fight" with ps4/f1ss/pc6/etc... i'm following traditional uhp definition of v, w or y rated low profile tire ah... summarized a bit from the net...

"UHP tires, are available in two basic categories: summer and all-season. Summer UHP tires generally focus on dry and wet handling and traction. This focus will involve stiffer sidewalls (achieved in part by low profile designs) in addition to bolstered construction and relatively softer tread compounds that provide increased traction. All-season M+S UHP tires are directed more at “everyday” use. Without giving up dry and wet handling, these tires are designed to also offer good traction on snow and ice."... s1n2 is classed as all season uhp, not summer uhp so its hard to find tests/comparisons... usually ppl focus only on summer and winter tires

i consider s1n2 more of a touring tire also myself...that's why i bought it... but its a strange beast, treadwear is much higher than touring, but traction is AA even beat out maxx 050+... also yokohamas are well known for soft/quiet tires and s1n2 beats them also... lol... hence i'm having a hard time finding a replacement since hankook stop this noble line liao... mc6 currently top choice but treadwear 340 only... haiz

s1n2 (500 AA A)...whilst p4 (340 A A), t005a (320 A A), prime3 (300 A A), 050+(240 A A), mc6(340 AA A)

anyways to me uhp is a meaningless label lah... study comparative tests and select metrics that i want more importance...

This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 5 2020, 01:56 PM

yes, traction is wet 100-0... just one of many metric for consideration

i search US sites for it...

1st ever Korean tire for me too... made in Indonesia some more... big "downgrade" from existing... was so unsure until I touch and smell it... then got good feeling...

at the time...zero review, only 2 customer feedback on tyre review uk... but it was also ~50% cost of ps4... since I don't do racing, try je lah... hahaha, never been happier

today I just saw this... grouped together with ps4, f1a5, f1ss, ecs... hahaha

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Type/Pas...formance-Tyres/

This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 6 2020, 12:00 PM

I'm eyeing the efficientgrip performance 2... dunno when launching... this mc6 looks like very good choice that's why keep digging deeper for info as my backup plan

I found another uhp 500 AA A tire, cooper rs3-g1... went n have a look but no feeling so unsure about it...

ya... my s1n2 already 70k... maybe can nurse 20k or 1 more year from it...

anyways just a few tests on 16/17"...wanna see 18/19" too... size got impact to relative ranking/rating...

This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 8 2020, 11:40 AM

if like to drive fast in the rain...drive over deep end see how high/far can splash water...see water beads fly up the windscreen while secretly laughing at slow people... then ps4, otherwise mc6

hahaha...you giving him more choices...he already very indecisive...hahaha

for myself...for touring i'd go with mc6...for sports i agree with you i wanna try f1s...

my dilemma, i really wanna try mc6 on my slow car but no 205/55/16 size...if put this on my fast car i can't try out f1s...