QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 31 2020, 09:30 PM)
I scanned through 30+ launch coverage... only 2 publications mentioned rival ps4... maybe is kiss ass "reporters" trying to get free review tires... Continental MaxContact 6 (MC6)
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 1 2020, 08:54 AM) I scanned through 30+ launch coverage... only 2 publications mentioned rival ps4... maybe is kiss ass "reporters" trying to get free review tires... Maybe but unfortunately that's the message that was heard widely. What's even more disappointing is the fact that Continental Malaysia still refuses to bring in the globally tried and well proven CPC6 while just pushing for this MC6 as if indirectly supporting that claim! |
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Nov 1 2020, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Nov 1 2020, 04:27 PM) Maybe but unfortunately that's the message that was heard widely. What's even more disappointing is the fact that Continental Malaysia still refuses to bring in the globally tried and well proven CPC6 while just pushing for this MC6 as if indirectly supporting that claim! In fact, local continental still producing CPC2 |
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Nov 2 2020, 10:59 PM
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found this... ![]() and this... and more... this got comparison with ps4, re003... 225/45/17 >> https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/75335091 245/45/18 >> https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/65920020 hmm... ok shortlist lah... This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 3 2020, 12:01 AM onetree710 and budang liked this post
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Nov 3 2020, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 2 2020, 10:59 PM) found this... Those chinese technical terms and wordings are so alien to me but from the bar chart the MC6 fared really well against other premium competitors. ![]() and this... and more... this got comparison with ps4, re003... 225/45/17 >> https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/75335091 245/45/18 >> https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/65920020 hmm... ok shortlist lah... A worthy option it seems |
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Nov 3 2020, 05:11 PM
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Walaooo...... Primacy4 outbraked PS4/RE003
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 31 2020, 06:56 PM) from the bottom, after cc6, uc6, is mc6... and mc6 is upgrade from mc5 touring lineage... performance definitely no where near ps4/f1ss, etc... but price is also cheap no where near the top... so ok lah My size 225/50 R17, last time I change ps4 in melaka, rm530 per piece, but now like got a lil price hike, just ask around rm550 per piece. got a lil price hike, but mc6 price almost the same, rm395.225/45/18 - p4 480, mc6 450, t005a 430... vs ps4 600 got 2 possibility: 1) conti tyres is indeed cheap 2) michelin inflated ps4 price due to its popularity. Sometimes, its insane to think, same size, price can be so different.gap rm150 between mc6 and ps4 is like a 1 pieces of small tyre. So insane. |
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Nov 4 2020, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE(DS51 @ Nov 4 2020, 12:30 AM) My size 225/50 R17, last time I change ps4 in melaka, rm530 per piece, but now like got a lil price hike, just ask around rm550 per piece. got a lil price hike, but mc6 price almost the same, rm395. Continental if imported ones from Europe like those CSC5 or ECS are even more expensive than PS4!got 2 possibility: 1) conti tyres is indeed cheap 2) michelin inflated ps4 price due to its popularity. Sometimes, its insane to think, same size, price can be so different.gap rm150 between mc6 and ps4 is like a 1 pieces of small tyre. So insane. |
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Nov 3 2020, 05:11 PM) QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 3 2020, 11:20 PM) eye opening... How about dry and wet handling?mc6 outbreaked pzero from a Korean test... so results match with the powerpoint got info from korean/japanese websites/videos too.. but don't understand a single word they saying ... hahaha |
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Nov 4 2020, 08:38 AM
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Summer Tyre test candidates :
1. Continental MC6 ---- RMB820 2. Michelin PS4 ---- RMB1050 3. Dunlop Sport Maxx TT ---- RMB900 4. Bridgestone RE003 ---- RMB750 5. Michelin Primacy 4 ---- RMB950 6. Chao Yang Zuper Ace SA-57 ---- RMB620 7. Landsail LS588UHP ---- RMB650 8. Sailun Atrezzo SU18 ---- RMB550 9. Double Star Prtech DSU02 ---- RMB550 10. Triangle Sportex TSH11 ---- RMB450 Dry Handling Test 1. BS RE003 ----- 114.0 km/h 2. Conti MC6 ----- 112.5 3. Michelin PS4 ----- 112.5 4. Michelin Primacy4 ----- 112.1 5. Dunlop Maxx TT ----- 111.5 6. Triangle ----- 111.3 7. Twin Star ----- 111.0 8. Chao Yang ----- 111.0 9. Sailun ----- 110.7 10. Landsail ----- 110.0 Dry Braking Test (100-0 km/h) 1. Conti MC6 ----- 36.4 m 2. Michelin Primacy4 ----- 36.4 m 3. Michelin PS4 ----- 36.8 m 4. Dunlop Maxx TT ------ 37.9 m 5. BS RE003 ------ 38.3 m 6. Twin Star ----- 39.8 m 7. Landsail ------ 39.9 m 8. Chao Yang ----- 40.2 m 9. Sailun ----- 40.8 m 10.Triangle ----- 40.8 m Dry Braking test (Residual Speed comparison, km/h) 1. Conti MC6 ----- 0.0 2. Michelin Primacy4 ----- 0.0 3. Michelin PS4 ----- 10.5 4. Dunlop Maxx TT ----- 20.3 5. BS RE003 ----- 22.4 6. Twin Star ----- 23.2 7. Landsail ----- 29.2 8. Chao Yang ----- 29.7 9. Sailun ----- 31.0 10.Triangle ----- 32.9 This post has been edited by speedy3210: Nov 4 2020, 09:39 AM |
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Comfortability (Subjective score)
1. Conti MC6 ---- 7.5 2. Michelin Primacy4 ---- 7.0 3. Dunlop Maxx TT ---- 7.0 4. Landsail ---- 7.0 5. BS RE003 ---- 6.5 6. Twin Star ---- 6.5 7. Michelin PS4 ---- 6.5 8. Triangle ---- 6.5 9. Chao Yang ---- 6.0 10. Sailun ---- 6.0 Cabin Noise Test (50 km/h......80km/h, dB) 1. Landsail ---- 62.5 65.1 2. Conti MC6 ---- 62.4 65.3 3. Sailun ---- 62.7 65.3 4. Michelin Primacy4 ---- 62.6 65.4 5. Michelin PS4 ---- 63.0 65.4 6. Dunlop Maxx TT ---- 62.9 65.6 7. Triangle ---- 62.7 65.7 8. BS RE003 ---- 63.5 65.9 9. Chao Yang ---- 62.5 65.9 10. Twin Star ---- 63.4 66.1 Rolling Resistance Test 1. Landsail ---- 0.666 2. Michelin Primacy4 --- 0.792 3. Conti MC6 --- 0.832 4. Triangle --- 0.895 5. Twin Star --- 0.900 6. Dunlop Maxx TT --- 0.910 7. BS RE003 --- 0.916 8. Chao Yang --- 0.928 9. Sailun --- 0.955 10. Michelin PS4 --- 0.971 This post has been edited by speedy3210: Nov 4 2020, 09:40 AM |
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Wet Braking Test (100-0 km/h......in metres)
1. Michelin Primacy4 --- 48.5 2. Michelin PS4 --- 51.1 3. Conti MC6 --- 51.4 4. Landsail --- 55.4 5. BS RE003 --- 61.3 6. Dunlop Maxx TT --- 63.8 7. Sailun --- 67.0 8. Chao Yang --- 67.9 9. Twin Star --- 68.7 10. Triangle --- 69.6 Wet Braking test (Residual Speed comparison, km/h) 1. Michelin Primacy4 --- 0.0 2. Michelin PS4 --- 22.7 3. Conti MC6 --- 23.7 4. Landsail --- 35.2 5. BS RE003 --- 45.7 6. Dunlop Maxx TT --- 48.9 7. Sailun --- 52.5 8. Chao Yang --- 53.4 9. Twin Star --- 54.3 10. Triangle --- 55.1 Wet Handling Test ( km/h) 1. Michelin Primacy4 --- 76.5 2. Conti MC6 --- 76.3 3. Michelin PS4 --- 76.1 4. BS RE003 --- 73.0 5. Landsail --- 72.1 6. Dunlop Maxx TT --- 70.4 7. Chao Yang --- 69.4 8. Sailun --- 67.6 9. Triangle --- 67.3 10. Twin Star --- 66.7 This post has been edited by speedy3210: Nov 4 2020, 09:49 AM |
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Water Dispersion Test (8mm depth, km/h)
1. Michelin PS4 ---- 73.4 2. Chao Yang --- 72.1 3. Dunlop Maxx TT --- 71.0 4. Michelin Primacy4 --- 70.7 5. Landsail --- 70.7 6. BS RE003 --- 70.5 7. Twin Star --- 69.6 8. Conti MC6 --- 69.5 9. Triangle --- 69.5 10. Sailun --- 67.9 Wet Acceleration Traction Test ( m/s2 ) 1. Chao Yang --- 30.4 2. Dunlop Maxx TT --- 2.94 3. Michelin PS4 --- 2.93 4. Twin Star --- 2.92 5. Sailun --- 2.80 6. BS RE003 --- 2.70 7. Triangle --- 2.59 8. Landsail --- 2.41 9. Conti MC6 --- 2.40 10. Michelin Primacy4 --- 2.35 Wet Circle Circuit Test ( seconds ) 1. Michelin Primacy4 --- 11.76 2. Michelin PS4 --- 11.80 3. Conti MC6 --- 11.84 4. BS RE003 --- 11.85 5. Landsail --- 12.49 6. Dunlop Maxx TT --- 12.50 7. Chao Yang --- 12.51 8. Twin Star --- 12.71 9. Sailun --- 12.89 10. Triangle --- 12.96 This post has been edited by speedy3210: Nov 4 2020, 10:18 AM |
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just to add... 17" tests above done using vw golf, looks like mk 7, they didn't say gti or tsi, but i think probably tsi...
so if using other cars with different front-rear balance and brake bias will obliviously give slightly different results... my other take-away is china tyre overall sucks... hahaha speedy3210 thanks for the hard work... tldr: MC6 & P4 are awesome...but sucks when heavy raid and flooded roads... This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 4 2020, 11:46 AM |
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 4 2020, 11:32 AM) just to add... 17" tests above done using vw golf, looks like mk 7, they didn't say gti or tsi, but i think probably tsi... Yeah..... surprised to find out that in the wet, PS4 being a UHP still skids on at 22.7 km/h when Primacy4 has came to a complete stop. HAHAHAso if using other cars with different front-rear balance and brake bias will obliviously give slightly different results... my other take-away is china tyre overall sucks... hahaha speedy3210 thanks for the hard work... tldr: MC6 & P4 are awesome...but sucks when heavy raid and flooded roads... And, for those who use Triangle, Sailun etc etc will still "cruise" on at 50+ km/h And that's your "normal" up-to-date 1.2ton car. |
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Interesting results. If only they had included some popular Goodyear models like the new F1A5 and Efficient Grip. But yeah as many have known, China tires in general are worse. This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Nov 4 2020, 12:14 PM budang liked this post
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Seriously eye opening. P4 outperformed PS4 in so many categories. While MC6 supposedly being a 'UHP' has a better subjective comfort & cabin noise score than the supposedly 'King of comfort' Primacy4....
And tests have again proven, dodgy China brand tires generally suck. |
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QUOTE(DS51 @ Nov 4 2020, 12:30 AM) My size 225/50 R17, last time I change ps4 in melaka, rm530 per piece, but now like got a lil price hike, just ask around rm550 per piece. got a lil price hike, but mc6 price almost the same, rm395. r&d, market segmentation, marketing/creaming, etc... got 2 possibility: 1) conti tyres is indeed cheap 2) michelin inflated ps4 price due to its popularity. Sometimes, its insane to think, same size, price can be so different.gap rm150 between mc6 and ps4 is like a 1 pieces of small tyre. So insane. we are also generally conditioned to believe more expensive = better... hahaha |
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