uhp I think means got 20“, low profiles, high speed & load rating...lol

that's why my favorite uhp is s1n2...try to buy again but no more

mc6 have softer rubber design for malaysian's jkr roads...hahaha. in a separate Korean video, tread wear was quite bad imho after track racing

This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 4 2020, 04:20 PM

Proven! The MC6 is comfy and low noise!

S1N2 is UHP? You mean S1E2?

just throwing my s1n2 into the fray...since comfy p4/mc6 doing so well against ps4/re003... hahaha

i know your definition of uhp is "can fight" with ps4/f1ss/pc6/etc... i'm following traditional uhp definition of v, w or y rated low profile tire ah... summarized a bit from the net...

"UHP tires, are available in two basic categories: summer and all-season. Summer UHP tires generally focus on dry and wet handling and traction. This focus will involve stiffer sidewalls (achieved in part by low profile designs) in addition to bolstered construction and relatively softer tread compounds that provide increased traction. All-season M+S UHP tires are directed more at “everyday” use. Without giving up dry and wet handling, these tires are designed to also offer good traction on snow and ice."... s1n2 is classed as all season uhp, not summer uhp so its hard to find tests/comparisons... usually ppl focus only on summer and winter tires

One way to also distinguish is the tread wear rating. True UHP usually have no higher than 340TW. If higher then usually entry level UHP or borderline with touring category. S1N2 if not mistaken is around 400-500TW, is it?
UHP also never have profile higher than 55 and not available with speed rating H or below.

i consider s1n2 more of a touring tire also myself...that's why i bought it... but its a strange beast, treadwear is much higher than touring, but traction is AA even beat out maxx 050+... also yokohamas are well known for soft/quiet tires and s1n2 beats them also... lol... hence i'm having a hard time finding a replacement since hankook stop this noble line liao... mc6 currently top choice but treadwear 340 only... haiz

s1n2 (500 AA A)...whilst p4 (340 A A), t005a (320 A A), prime3 (300 A A), 050+(240 A A), mc6(340 AA A)

anyways to me uhp is a meaningless label lah... study comparative tests and select metrics that i want more importance...

This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 5 2020, 01:56 PM

Me too....... tried to find back this S1N2 due to its sleeper nature...... the 1st branded sub-200buck 205/55R16 tyre for me. Can't find anymore coz this size is 1 of the earliest retired

Had same impression as you 1st time I saw it..... Knn TW 500 but traction AA...... must be Bangkook instead of Hankook, but since sub-200 I closed 1 eye.

Traction rating is wet traction, so not really indicative coz many UHP are still just A rating, especially BS which has none in AA!

yes, traction is wet 100-0... just one of many metric for consideration

was there a treadwear/traction/temperature rating on the Prime3? Last I saw there isn't any.

i search US sites for it...

1st ever Korean tire for me too... made in Indonesia some more... big "downgrade" from existing... was so unsure until I touch and smell it... then got good feeling...

at the time...zero review, only 2 customer feedback on tyre review uk... but it was also ~50% cost of ps4... since I don't do racing, try je lah... hahaha, never been happier

today I just saw this... grouped together with ps4, f1a5, f1ss, ecs... hahaha

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Type/Pas...formance-Tyres/

This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 6 2020, 12:00 PM

I've been eyeing S1N2 1 year + ago too for my next change but too bad can't find one anymore today

I'm eyeing the efficientgrip performance 2... dunno when launching... this mc6 looks like very good choice that's why keep digging deeper for info as my backup plan

I found another uhp 500 AA A tire, cooper rs3-g1... went n have a look but no feeling so unsure about it...

Efficientgrip performance 2 is such a darling tire. Seen many good reviews on it but not even sure when is it arriving

ya... my s1n2 already 70k... maybe can nurse 20k or 1 more year from it...

anyways just a few tests on 16/17"...wanna see 18/19" too... size got impact to relative ranking/rating...

This post has been edited by dwRK: Nov 8 2020, 11:40 AM

Based on the recent posts of the Chinese test, does this mean that MC6 is worthy of replacing V12 evo2's title as the budget PS4?

What about the Primacy 4 vs PS4, according to these tests? Seems like it's outperforming the PS4 in certain categories. The general consensus used to be PS4 = performance, Primacy 4 = comfort/touring.

For 225/45 R17, the average price on Shopee seems to be as follows:
MC6 = RM350
PS4 = RM480
P4 = RM440

How would you suggest which to get for someone like me who is very indecisive?

if like to drive fast in the rain...drive over deep end see how high/far can splash water...see water beads fly up the windscreen while secretly laughing at slow people... then ps4, otherwise mc6

For touring tires, Goodyear Efficient Grip or BS Turanza T005A would be a better value for money than P4.

For UHP, try find Falken FK510, well proven good UHP tire with better value for money as well, usually just around 80-90% the prices PS4. Another better value is the newest Goodyear F1 Sport, also should be quite a bit cheaper than PS4.

If I were you I'd try the F1S coz usually Goodyear makes excellent tires which rival or even better than those of Michelin, especially the F1 line up.

hahaha...you giving him more choices...he already very indecisive...hahaha

for myself...for touring i'd go with mc6...for sports i agree with you i wanna try f1s...

my dilemma, i really wanna try mc6 on my slow car but no 205/55/16 size...if put this on my fast car i can't try out f1s...