It happens all over the place. Where there is internet connection and a bar, it will happen.
About your waiter and ego question, yes.

If your question is about sex, she might if she really likes you. But probably no. She is there to make money, especially if the day is still early. She will entertain you as long as you are there to buy bottles.

If she cannot make money this way, she will have to find more desperate means of making money.

Some places might use intimidation to force you to stay, but unlikely when you are sober. Anyway, bad for business if you manage to call for help, so most places just leave you alone.
You can try to waste their time, but she will know. It is her work after all. She will always be firmer than you.

Do not try to bother her with your friends. Who do you think runs the pubs?

this..

lucky thy dint rob u TS...

nxt time dont be such sohai

didnt really state any rules for no contact, she just said need she need to chill out, as per online research it's better to just give her what she want, which is space.
after i agreed giving her space, i went no contact until i decided to chat her back, maybe just few weeks time, not to drag too long to avoid backfire
part of the reason i suspect the need to chill out could be we keep texting every single day, im fine with that actually, but maybe she feel tired doing so? who knows. i can see that her reply is less affectionate as time passed

as for social circle, she's been very secretive about it since beginning, she dont wan let anyone know about us except a very few close friends to her
i kind of understand cos:
1. been fking after every date without fail, she's a bit resistant half of the time but managed to push thru it anyway, she clearly enjoys it at the end
2. still new like 1 month plus

or there may be reasons which i dont know bout

yep im shocked when she called it off instantly on the spot when i failed to buy the drinks, such a blow to the ego

if the guy indeed bought it, i dont think she'll get away that easily just in case the guy got furious, just curious how she would call it off if the drink is bought
imagine u bought it and finished drinking, she straight telling u "ok bye see u", any alpha male will do something about it, betas might just suck it up thinking he's just not good enough and walk away

if u linger around k long enough, u know too

Alphas are welcome to try to make a scene in those kinds of places.

They will get a blow alright, and not just to the ego.

still got good people in tantan, just that need to find and discover

consider yourself lucky if you were not surrounded by some thugs after you refused to spend any money on the premise

it is called 酒托 google it, it originated from China

the PRC girls are actively looking for targets in Wechat too

went and googled it, indeed very informative, learnt a lot, and shocked it's not a new tactic, been around since few years ago and im not aware of it, lmao.

im thankful my only cost is petrol lols.
from the beginning i knew it's too good to be true, so i had a few precautions in mind while taking the risk
i told her beforehand that my friends are around too, will meet them shortly after meeting you, maybe that discouraged her/them to do further things to me in the event that i refuse to play along

on a side note, when i called her after i reached, the caller ringtone is very hurt to listen, the music very awful and spells danger to me lol

any cases in msia where they actually lock you down if not playing along?

I have some friends who kena this scam on tinder. So now it spread to tantan also yeah? This tactic seems quite effective.

Even when walking into a bar alone, gotta be careful when girls approach u and talk to u. They might expect u to pay for their drinks too.

This post has been edited by danielcmugen: Sep 9 2019, 04:09 AM

I see for me is the other way round. Text daily but not excessively. Just current update on what me or her are doing along with attached pics or videos

Perhaps can share some new or latest post and suggest that as a next place to go for dating

Yea you definitely want to text. Don't wait too long.

Eh, if she a bit reluctant to intro you to her friends at the moment. You can ask her to hang out with your buddies instead. See how she response.

I suppose she's the type that takes a while to open up entirely. Give it some time

I encountered the same thing also from tantan lol

but i really didnt expect much cause i feel fishy already given that i took the girl's wechat and it was a dupe account

the fact is the girl is not pretty and summore demand for "wine" more than 500bucks lol

yes it's effective no matter how rational u can be, to show being able to pay as a man comes as a very natural response, which they prey on.

for my encounter, they have to work on these to have a chance to be effective against me:
1. dont sound so rush and firm in the phone, i wanted to bring her to dessert shop, she kept trying very hard to be firmer than me and lead me
2. texting while walking together, the way she hold the phone very fishy, as if absolutely cant let me see whats inside / who she talking to
3. didnt show enough interest to further soften me up
4. too firm in insisting the wine
5. she wont let u know where is the location until u meet, then she will walk to u there, cant do much but to follow

cuz of the above reasons, she didnt managed to break my security responses, i was very alert throughout the course, i even unknowingly crossed my arms while walking with her, a body language that shows guarded, in fact she amplifies my guarding responses

she couldve gotten me to buy the cheapest 200 bucks if the waiter didnt said sold out, or order other stuffs slowly leading to expensive ones, ohwell.

one of the member here shared the chinese word for this scam, when i google and read, it shows this scam originated from china, and the scam is even more sophisticated there, they actually soft you up, text you for few days first (the one texting you could be a guy managing the scam), and act way more feminine during the meeting, as compared to my encounter, clearly she tried to be dominant, which i picked it up obviously

same to me too, at the start of cos everything is wonderful, daily and excessive, slowly become just daily but not excessive, some of the times she take up to 1 day to reply, but never exceed 2 days. she never share pics or video to me, which i like and my friends' gf did that, she seem dont like to share her pics, even the pics she took in fitting room while window shopping with me, she will only share me the pics we both took together (must be 2 of us in pic), im not sure what she's worry of

been 2 weeks exact for no contact already, the more i wait, the more i feel accustomed to it already and wanting to wait more and see how, so far she havent find me back yet, no update on social media too

the sad thing is i dont have much friends, and if i want her to hang out with my friends, i can do it, but i dont feel like intro her to my friends cos:
1. my friend knew too much about me, worry they might really add her and then share her my dark stories
2. worry they might fall for her and start take action

the open up part somehow contradicts with my thinking, if so then why she fk with me so soon lol, altho is me who tryhard to initiate that leads to the outcome
somehow now only she realized everytime i go out i want it, she seem pull back and act a bit cold from that point onwards

yes i love her, she's 1 of the rare kind that donr really focus on your money and a loving persona, pretty as well as able to be a bad girl when the time comes (that stuff), its exactly what i hoped for this entire life, i wouldnt want to let her go, at this point im not sure if a change in my behavior will change her attitude or not, planning to drop that thing for quite a while, just focus on building with her, get to really know her more, strengthen the bond 1st before anything else

not pretty? thats pretty easy decision, ask her GTFO.

btw how do u know its a dupe? lol so direct to demand for 500? reply her la, how bout i giv u 300, let me fk u

I’m already out of night scene for many years already, but good to know about this. Thanks.

I just leave LOL

cause usually china people their wechat are full of stories one, like our insta stories, her account is just pure blank

the fact is i think that i can pay 300 and get someone better, and she thought people wanna spend 500 above for her type of quality is making me lmao

From what you mentioned. She might be cautious now after figuring your pattern.

This scenario happened to me before. We got it on quite early like. After one or 2 dates but after a while. Same thing happen, she perceive I only wanted sex and started distancing herself from me.

I guess we were both lonely and she just broke up. It went down hill after

Anyway, for you. I do suggest trying to re ignite things again if you really like her. Do something different without involving Sex unless she hints you

What do you mean by planning to drop the attitude?

what do u mean by "went downhill after"? this is important because i dont know whether u indeed just want sex, or truly like her, it has a difference.

if u meant u actually liked and try to pursue back, but despite that still went downhill, then im a bit worried now after seeing your reply
but if u actually just wanted it without commitment, i guess the downhill dont actually concern u, im sure you're totally fine letting her go

yes i will try my best to rekindle things, shouldnt do it so soon in the 1st place but i push thru it due to my past experience reminded me to move fast or you'll lose her
i cant believe that even i moved fast this time, the same thing can happen, i thought do it early on can actually sort of seal the deal
now i have to suffer the consequences and try to fix things, i hope im able to get her back, i still love her after all

ps: drop that attitude/thing = drop sex i meant

This post has been edited by Sasuke95: Sep 9 2019, 11:16 PM

Welcome back. Its been awhile i saw u post ur r/ship prob with office girl from your audit industry

finally you kena ffk until insaf liau?

Though those GRO will only use such tactics in bar. How much they have advance by using technology for their advantage..

If its too easy & demands a lot, means probably a scam

Felt that we are of different wavelength after dating for a short while. It died down after sometime. Got quite messy also cause she's my colleague.

Ya man, hope it'll work out for you two. Can consider to plan an outing with her to get things going again.

Hahaha I see. That's what you meant. Well, if she insist make sure you don't resist