Tried it out of curiosity, won't go too much about the app's pros and cons, straight to the 1st experience.

So in the span of half an hour, I matched with 1 pretty looking china girl. She claimed to just moved to our country few days ago due to work requirements of her Co. So I asked, what's her most look forward thing to do here. She said she look forward to chit chat with someone in person. So I asked when, she said now (that's fast).

So I drove to the area she mentioned, it's not too remote and moderately crowded. As safety measure i tried to lead on my terms, in phone call I said I'm gonna bring her to eat dessert, but she insist on following her terms of going to bar.

When finally met, yup she's pretty but somehow I'm not attracted to her beauty. The direction she walked is getting less and less people around, i was thinking if she kept going then I'm out. Luckily she stopped at the last shop which is a bar, there's enough people there to make me feel safe. Along the way she asked what's my career, that's the first thing she asked. Also, she's playing her phone with her strategically holding the phone facing the other way, i tried my best to peek but it's just impossible, i wonder who she talking to?

So we sat down and served by someone, menu presented, she said wanna drink wine, and the wine menu starts from 200, then 300, 500, 900, 1k plus. The another menu is more affordable consist of foods and cocktails. I said we should try cocktail, she said no, insisted on the wine.

Due to a man's pride, i showed the waiter the menu and pointed at the cheapest option of 200 while not showing her which one i choose to not appear cheap. But the waiter responded the first 2 option already sold out, the next one will be 500 already.

So i try to hint and said i don't have enough cash, then she said that I can use card, checkmate then. I have the card, but i said i didn't bring it as well, it's just not worth it at this point. Then she said the date is over already and said her friend will pick her up, and sort of said we may meet again for meal perhaps next time, which i doubt and completely fine that we'll not meet again, i already labelled her as gold digger, unmatched in app, then uninstall, the end.

Waste my petrol, time, and 2 sprays of good cologne.

well, i dont know that, honestly.
quite a few of u guys knew, where did u guys know it?

i was expecting she's a pros and probably just wanna do it and get my money, but turned out is another story

i guess this is really a scam tactic as told by other sifus here, nope not from kepong, when was your friend's experience, same using tantan?
and did your friend actually bought the drink? exact same experience? (cheapest option sold out, force to buy pricey one)

i super long time no post dy, still remember my story lol.
yeah but not that same person anymore, and yes im seeing a new one, which is kinda good girl, for few months already.
just that it's now a bit rocky, she seem lost interest after she finished her work at oversea for few months, for now im guessing she think i only want her body cos i picked up her subtle hints
i hope it will go well again after some period of no contact, gotta control the libido to regain trust?

i only played tinder, and tantan.
used tinder for the longest, maybe half a month? i've actually met real people there, some made it to dating while most only want to chat / play hard to get, extremely hard to invite out.
at the end uninstall since it doesnt really yield me the result that i want, when bored again will reinstall, rinse and repeat, didnt touch in recent years, mostly college time

tantan is quite money hungry i think, when i first started, i got notification showing there are 9 girls liked me over the course of half hour, but i cant see who are they until i pay subscription.
since they liked me, if i get to see who are they (after pay) and liked them back, it will be guaranteed match as the app claimed.
a bit tempted to pay, but didnt at the end after this post's experience, do u think the 9 girls are real?

Do tantan really have any real people?

means the waiter probably knows already and intentionally said the cheapest option sold out so iim forced to buy the super expensive ones? to think of it thats pretty smart to prey on a man's ego, if i am rich i will definitely buy it for her out of ego, but what happens after that? she will just chit chat and force end the date and wont take things further?

and what if she consistently failed to pull this off? or actually a lot ppl fall for this tactic? will she get like penalty or fired lol
aaaaaaaand wont they try to use force to lock me down to do their bidding? my body was still very very weak due to overtrained in gym, muscle very pain and cant use force, so its actually quite risky if im actually surrounded and ambushed

i feel sorry for your friend's loss, his ego clouded his rational mind?
wow terus ciao, your friend didnt react? like became angry or something? paid so much and you want to ciao just like that?
by the way, interested to know the ciao part, how she will pull it off to make it less obvious and harmless to not provoke the guy?

now we know their tricks, why not play along and waste their time?
keep playing around, ask her go here go there before agreeing to go to bar, she might follow just to get you in the end, or she might be firm like what i encounter, just be firmer and see how it goes
if you're gangster, get some ppl standby nearby, once she tried to pull the trick, surround her and see what happens, such trick disgusts me

didnt really state any rules for no contact, she just said need she need to chill out, as per online research it's better to just give her what she want, which is space.
after i agreed giving her space, i went no contact until i decided to chat her back, maybe just few weeks time, not to drag too long to avoid backfire
part of the reason i suspect the need to chill out could be we keep texting every single day, im fine with that actually, but maybe she feel tired doing so? who knows. i can see that her reply is less affectionate as time passed

as for social circle, she's been very secretive about it since beginning, she dont wan let anyone know about us except a very few close friends to her
i kind of understand cos:
1. been fking after every date without fail, she's a bit resistant half of the time but managed to push thru it anyway, she clearly enjoys it at the end
2. still new like 1 month plus

or there may be reasons which i dont know bout

yep im shocked when she called it off instantly on the spot when i failed to buy the drinks, such a blow to the ego

if the guy indeed bought it, i dont think she'll get away that easily just in case the guy got furious, just curious how she would call it off if the drink is bought
imagine u bought it and finished drinking, she straight telling u "ok bye see u", any alpha male will do something about it, betas might just suck it up thinking he's just not good enough and walk away

went and googled it, indeed very informative, learnt a lot, and shocked it's not a new tactic, been around since few years ago and im not aware of it, lmao.

im thankful my only cost is petrol lols.
from the beginning i knew it's too good to be true, so i had a few precautions in mind while taking the risk
i told her beforehand that my friends are around too, will meet them shortly after meeting you, maybe that discouraged her/them to do further things to me in the event that i refuse to play along

on a side note, when i called her after i reached, the caller ringtone is very hurt to listen, the music very awful and spells danger to me lol

any cases in msia where they actually lock you down if not playing along?

yes it's effective no matter how rational u can be, to show being able to pay as a man comes as a very natural response, which they prey on.

for my encounter, they have to work on these to have a chance to be effective against me:
1. dont sound so rush and firm in the phone, i wanted to bring her to dessert shop, she kept trying very hard to be firmer than me and lead me
2. texting while walking together, the way she hold the phone very fishy, as if absolutely cant let me see whats inside / who she talking to
3. didnt show enough interest to further soften me up
4. too firm in insisting the wine
5. she wont let u know where is the location until u meet, then she will walk to u there, cant do much but to follow

cuz of the above reasons, she didnt managed to break my security responses, i was very alert throughout the course, i even unknowingly crossed my arms while walking with her, a body language that shows guarded, in fact she amplifies my guarding responses

she couldve gotten me to buy the cheapest 200 bucks if the waiter didnt said sold out, or order other stuffs slowly leading to expensive ones, ohwell.

one of the member here shared the chinese word for this scam, when i google and read, it shows this scam originated from china, and the scam is even more sophisticated there, they actually soft you up, text you for few days first (the one texting you could be a guy managing the scam), and act way more feminine during the meeting, as compared to my encounter, clearly she tried to be dominant, which i picked it up obviously

same to me too, at the start of cos everything is wonderful, daily and excessive, slowly become just daily but not excessive, some of the times she take up to 1 day to reply, but never exceed 2 days. she never share pics or video to me, which i like and my friends' gf did that, she seem dont like to share her pics, even the pics she took in fitting room while window shopping with me, she will only share me the pics we both took together (must be 2 of us in pic), im not sure what she's worry of

been 2 weeks exact for no contact already, the more i wait, the more i feel accustomed to it already and wanting to wait more and see how, so far she havent find me back yet, no update on social media too

the sad thing is i dont have much friends, and if i want her to hang out with my friends, i can do it, but i dont feel like intro her to my friends cos:
1. my friend knew too much about me, worry they might really add her and then share her my dark stories
2. worry they might fall for her and start take action

the open up part somehow contradicts with my thinking, if so then why she fk with me so soon lol, altho is me who tryhard to initiate that leads to the outcome
somehow now only she realized everytime i go out i want it, she seem pull back and act a bit cold from that point onwards

yes i love her, she's 1 of the rare kind that donr really focus on your money and a loving persona, pretty as well as able to be a bad girl when the time comes (that stuff), its exactly what i hoped for this entire life, i wouldnt want to let her go, at this point im not sure if a change in my behavior will change her attitude or not, planning to drop that thing for quite a while, just focus on building with her, get to really know her more, strengthen the bond 1st before anything else

not pretty? thats pretty easy decision, ask her GTFO.

btw how do u know its a dupe? lol so direct to demand for 500? reply her la, how bout i giv u 300, let me fk u

what do u mean by "went downhill after"? this is important because i dont know whether u indeed just want sex, or truly like her, it has a difference.

if u meant u actually liked and try to pursue back, but despite that still went downhill, then im a bit worried now after seeing your reply
but if u actually just wanted it without commitment, i guess the downhill dont actually concern u, im sure you're totally fine letting her go

yes i will try my best to rekindle things, shouldnt do it so soon in the 1st place but i push thru it due to my past experience reminded me to move fast or you'll lose her
i cant believe that even i moved fast this time, the same thing can happen, i thought do it early on can actually sort of seal the deal
now i have to suffer the consequences and try to fix things, i hope im able to get her back, i still love her after all

ps: drop that attitude/thing = drop sex i meant

This post has been edited by Sasuke95: Sep 9 2019, 11:16 PM

pride preying is so effective against men lol, should instantly walk away the moment she picked $1000 wine.
if you didnt, it's fine, but her showing very pissed face because you're short of cash is a glaringly obvious red flag that something is wrong, you need to be blind to not see it, which you're not.
and you're out of your mind to "discuss" a cheaper wine, you're going way out of your way to entertain someone like this, someone's not interested in you and is showing it.
and still dare to have glimpse of hope after all of the above lol, i cant imagine what you're thinking.

look, to someone you barely know, dont think about spending more than $250, you can use that $250 to pay for happy ending instead, since the ultimate objective you involve yourself with the girl is to fuck her one day, now you gave a shit load of money and barely fucked, instead got showed pissed face, you could've got a few happy endings with that money.

few questions (answer honestly, since everyone is anonymous):
1. are you someone that's not popular with girls? girls hard to come by? thats why you acted this way in your story?
2. if you want to run away, is it really possible to do so? back up the answer by telling what's in your surrounding

does your friend mind? is he rich? or he's really angry right now?

yes, when i was in that scam, i at least tried to bring her to the place i want (a dessert shop nearby), i understand she is a stranger that requested to meet on the same day we matched in Tantan, i'm quite heavily guarded while wanting to meet her.

turn out she's firmer than me and insist to go her way, that raised my alert further.

Guess your friend has very high ego to put up with 2k, if they scam me this much I'd be definitely angry and go for revenge

lol necro a thread few years ago ahahaha

u think reporting to police got use? u need to prove the girl and the shop got connection, which i dont think they will admit, she will just say she's a customer and just wanted to drink wine

man up and eat the lost bro, let it serve as lesson / tuition fee.

no genuine girl want you to spend A Lot outright, especially in early stage of knowing.

the girls i met with so far, they dont really want me to spend much on them, when i attempt to bring them to fancy restaurant, they will ask me reconsider to jaga my wallet, some wont refuse as we've known each other for quite some time and totally fine for fine dining for special occasions.

curious how you fall for it though, pride?