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PC Audio Please Recommend... a 2.1 or 5.1 speaker set V2, Comparison and advice needed...

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andrew9292
post Jan 28 2009, 10:58 PM

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harloor...got samthing to ask... if i got 5.1 soundcard and 5.1 speaker... and i play mp3...will the sound be 5.1 or just 2.1? or is it different soundcard diferent sum 5.1 sum 2.1 for mp3?
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post Jan 29 2009, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 28 2009, 07:35 PM)
mind to elaborate more on the bold part?
did you compare them head to head with the same setup?
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Yes I have all three: Edifier S330/S2.1D (Digital), AE Aego, Creative T3, I have compared all three side by side. Muscially the T3s are just exemplary, with detailed highs and forward mids. And a sub that can be literally felt! and heard... Impressive.

You can also refer to this review from Trusted Reviews:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/multimedia/r...nel-Speakers/p1

I have already written a "mini" review on Pg 79:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=22898735

Here is it again:

I own the other two most pominent 2.1 audiophile grade pc speaker grade systems - the Acoustic Energy Aego, and the Edifier S330/S2.1M. I use them for different setups: The Aegos were previously hooked up to my notebook, which I have now replaced with the T3s. The Edifiers are connected to my desktop.

I am not saying the Aegos are short on definition, but where they lack (seriously), is in the bass dept. The T3's SLAM sub is far more compact and although my desk where my notebook resides on isn't near a wall, the bass from the T3 sub makes a whole lot of difference. I find the bass from the T3's sub tighter than the Edifier's and certainly the integration between the sub and sats are seemless. A couple of friends kept thinking the T3s sats were producing such prodigious bass when they heard the system! The sub's SLAM (Symmetrically Loaded Acoustic Module) construction provides sufficient attack and speed without the port noise associated with a ported design. And goes surprisingly deep despite its compact dimensions. The bass is punchy without being overblown, and the system as a whole, is capable of some serious volume levels without going into distortion.

This obviously shows the quality of the components used. I like the bass to be forceful and sufficiently deep, with minimal boominess (to some extent, zero boominess isn't entirely possible on such systems), and the T3s shine in this regard.

And the full range driver is as Creative claims, of audiophile quality, indeed. The angle of the T3's Sats is just right to my ear height whereas the Edifier would need to be slightly angled to produce the best soundstage. The Aego's angle is too much on my table. With the T3's Sats, I am able to hear ample detail and vocals are reproduced pretty accurately. Imaging is very good (surprisingly), detail is excellent, mid range clear and forward, with good dynamics when you sit at a suitable distance. Going a bit closer (near field), it's coherent, not overblown, and unfatiguing.

The T3s shine with various jazz, vocal and piano tracks from Eric Marienthal, Dave Koz, Sissel and Jim Brickman (which were used in my test setup). Vocals are clear and distinct. The sats reveal bags of detail and the little drivers produced some solid imaging. I was outright impressed. Movies were handled with aplomb, with clear dialogue and excellent dynamics. Playing Transformers, the SLAM sub clearly revealed its presence when called for. Outstanding.

To my judgement, it can go pretty high on the frequency spectrum. There is no high freq "washout". Impressive. The Edifiers sound a little "brighter" with certain kinds of music. With the T3s, I can listen for extended periods without ear fatigue.

Please don't compare the T3s to a separate hi-fi system, and that is not the purpose. However, compared to a similiar product, the Bose Companion 3, the Bose sounds compressed, weak, highly processed sound, overblown and shallow bass, to say the least. This was an actual demo by Creative, not made up by me. Not only do I agree that the Bose is overrated (as with other Boses' products), they're way overpriced compared to the T3s.

I like the volume/on/off control knob - a not too glaring blue on LED graces the front, and it has a super silky smooth action, and when you switch it off, a nice soft relay clicks the sub off without any harsh speaker feedback - the Edifier is good in this respect too, but the silky smooth turn action (which permits fine adjustment) of the T3's volume knob wins.

I think the reviews speak for themselves. I auditioned the T3s for quite a while before deciding on it. It's worth the price. I used to dislike creative and vowed never to buy their product(s) but this changed my mind (on some of their products). Bottom line, I'd place my money where it's worth. (I bought them from Sim Lim Singapore Fuwell for S$288 or RM660)

Audition the T3s next to the Edifiers or the Aego M and you will find a new winner...


This post has been edited by Razzd: Jan 30 2009, 01:53 AM
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post Jan 29 2009, 04:42 PM

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oohhh... very tempting... now i cant decide if my future wife is the aego m or t3... t3 a bit cheaper some more... 598 at garage sales, brand new... need to save up some cash!
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post Jan 29 2009, 07:46 PM

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The T3s at RM598 it's a no brainer - buy it!

Well, there is simply no comparison between the T3 and the Aego. My only concern is if you buy the Aego, you'll live to regret it, once you've compared it to the T3.

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post Jan 29 2009, 11:53 PM

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thanks for the brief review on aego M vs creative T3.
i don't like creative products as well
somemore the T3 does not have a quality product look that's why i'm really suspicious about its performance tongue.gif
i'll try to audition it if got chance.
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post Jan 30 2009, 12:07 AM

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I think it's important to keep an open mind about brands. Don't be stereotype just because of some bad reputation.

If Creative had produced the T3s and AE bought it and labelled it Aego X, I'm sure many will buy that without hesitation.

Bottom line, buy it if it's good - yes looks may matter, but not all good looking products sound good! But when it's good in terms of performance/value, more than half the battle's won already.

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post Jan 30 2009, 01:51 AM

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can u guys help me...list me the best(really2 superb one) for 2.1 n 5.1...harga tak kesah...

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post Jan 30 2009, 02:17 PM

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any ideas which should i get between Klipsch GMX 2.1 & Edifier S330 as both are same price range
will be used on Xbox360 gaming ( yes,no soundcard )
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post Jan 30 2009, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(sickboy @ Jan 30 2009, 02:17 PM)
any ideas which should i get between Klipsch GMX 2.1 & Edifier S330 as both are same price range
will be used on Xbox360 gaming ( yes,no soundcard )
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i think Klipsch will more suitable for u .S330 not so suitable for gaming.


Added on January 30, 2009, 2:38 pm
QUOTE(spadecrew @ Jan 30 2009, 01:51 AM)
can u guys help me...list me the best(really2 superb one) for  2.1 n 5.1...harga tak kesah...
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Harga tak kisah,tapi soalan ini mamang susah nak jawab biggrin.gif

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post Jan 30 2009, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Razzd @ Jan 29 2009, 07:46 PM)
The T3s at RM598 it's a no brainer - buy it!

Well, there is simply no comparison between the T3 and the Aego. My only concern is if you buy the Aego, you'll live to regret it, once you've compared it to the T3.
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i know it's cheap but i still cant afford a rm600 speaker... huhu... i got an idea, why dont u guys donate some cash to my account? rm10 each, 60 person will be rm600. muahahahaha!


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QUOTE(spadecrew @ Jan 30 2009, 01:51 AM)
can u guys help me...list me the best(really2 superb one) for  2.1 n 5.1...harga tak kesah...
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if harga tak kesah, call up mr phil jones or mr mark levinson himself and ask him to make a speaker for u! that'll be the best 2.1 or 5.1 ever! even better, u can ask them to colaborate and work together. hehe. get an eidifier s2000 if have the cash, or a sonus faber, bose, ae, those expensive brands. if u have so much cash, mind giving me some for my gigaworks t3? hehe tongue.gif

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post Jan 30 2009, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Jan 28 2009, 10:58 PM)
harloor...got samthing to ask... if i got 5.1 soundcard and 5.1 speaker... and i play mp3...will the sound be 5.1 or just 2.1? or is it different soundcard diferent sum 5.1 sum 2.1 for mp3?
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You can choose how many speakers you wanna play even can play thru 2 speakers or surround sound.

For me music i usually play on 4 speakers ( 2 front and 2 rear )
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post Jan 31 2009, 11:44 AM

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Now t3 vs s530d.
Is there a great distinction? Which will u go for?

I am a bass head so i think (haven't listen to t3 before) s530d will perform better of cuz the price is also higher by a 100.
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I think u try to listen both of them first if condition allow u to do that. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 31 2009, 01:04 PM

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Hey guyz, Im juz wanna ask for recommendation for good speakers(5.1) and hopefully a sound card too for my new gaming rig. I recently finish farcry2, overall the experience was fine except for the audio as I couldn't pin point where are shots coming from and i can barely hear what are the characters are saying which i had to rely on the subtitles; it's as if some1 turn down the volume on the in game voice speech.

purpose of my use is obviously for gaming, music listening and movies. My budget would be anything below RM1k.

Thx in advance. icon_question.gif

BTW, if it helps i'm currently using an onboard sound card and a really old(5~6 years) altec-lansing 2.1 speakers.

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post Jan 31 2009, 01:09 PM

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Here u go for sound card.X-fi Fatality at RM240 only
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QUOTE(kayden @ Jan 31 2009, 11:44 AM)
Now t3 vs s530d.
Is there a great distinction? Which will u go for?

I am a bass head so i think (haven't listen to t3 before) s530d will perform better of cuz the price is also higher by a 100.
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s530d's subwoofer looks bigger, but the t3 has 3 driver for the subwoofer, one forward, one left, one right. so im not sure.. but for bass, i think u should go for the s530d... if u're an oldies, jazz, or classic type, go for t3!
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QUOTE(xk2 @ Jan 31 2009, 01:09 PM)
how bout the 1 from kucingfight brows.gif
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QUOTE(JuzJoe @ Jan 31 2009, 01:04 PM)
Hey guyz, Im juz wanna ask for recommendation for good speakers(5.1) and hopefully a sound card too for my new gaming rig. I recently finish farcry2, overall the experience was fine except for the audio as I couldn't pin point where are shots coming from and i can barely hear what are the characters are saying which i had to rely on the subtitles; it's as if some1 turn down the volume on the in game voice speech.

purpose of my use is obviously for gaming, music listening and movies. My budget would be anything below RM1k.

Thx in advance. icon_question.gif

BTW, if it helps i'm currently using an onboard sound card and a really old(5~6 years) altec-lansing 2.1 speakers.
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consider a 5.1 maybe a z-5500D
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post Jan 31 2009, 11:50 PM

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What is the price of the 530D?

Agreed that the bass on the 530D may be "louder" but that does not mean it's deeper. The principle of bass reflex (or ported) designs show a dramatic roll off below the port tuned frequency.

As we are all aware, sealed or acoustic suspension designs produce tighter & deeper bass at the expense of volume.

You be the judge of that.

I have heard the 530D, yes agreed that the power can be felt, and the sub is indeed awesome, but I think musically the T3s would sound better. Get the 530D for gaming and everything else.
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post Feb 1 2009, 05:03 AM

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S530D is around RM7xx. I am a basshead so bass is important for me, but of cuz i would not like to sacrifice clarity for it.

I personally thinks C3 clarity is good but i dont know why some of my songs just fail on them. Its like trembling when trying to play certain songs. The sound is like papers flapping. Thats why i need to upgrade my speakers.

C3 bass sounds ok on my X-Fi Xtreme Music, so i guess 530D would be a big leap from there since higher end blush.gif

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