Thinking of getting a new set of 2.1 speakers. So far I hear good comments on the S330. Ok here's the problem, at my place I can't seem to find anywhere have this up for demo. How is the S330 compared to Promedia 2.1 GMX?

The Promedia 2.1 GMX is going for RM410 at a store in my area. So was wondering how does this 2 compare. I have heard how the GMX performed and would like to know the differences between this 2.

EDIT : S330 and S330D what's the difference? i went to edifier's website and saw this 2 models that look alike.

This post has been edited by celciuz: Feb 3 2009, 02:20 PM

I have the Edifier S330D/S2.1D version which comes with Optical/Coaxial Inputs in addition to the RCA Analog inputs.

The normal S330/S2.1M usually just comes with RCA Analog inputs.

I find the GMX's treble a little harsh - it's not refined. That is my personal opinion.

Personally I think you can just buy the Edifier S330 without listening to it. I did just that.

So much has been said & reviewed on these Edifiers. Just go out and buy it & you won't be disappointed.

There are so many factors affecting sound quality. Having top grade speakers but poor placement will make your thousand dollar purchase sound like crap. Having sound insulating materials in your listening room (e.g. carpets, heavy curtains) affects the resonances, bass & brightness.

Bottom line, the asking price of RM300 (or RM390) for the S330 is more than justified. Let your ears be rewarded...

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Added on February 3, 2009, 3:02 pm

Audiophiles will agree with me, good systems do not require treble & bass adjustments. If there are such adjustments (e.g. Audyssey Dynamic Volume, Audyssey Dynamic EQ or Calibration on the new Denon receivers), the primary purpose for equalization is to cater/compensate for room anomalies, and not to "enhance" the bass & treble.

Having more drivers do not necessarily guarantee 'better' sound. It is better to have ONE good driver than many mediocre drivers.

Take the famous Thiel CS1.6 or CS2.4 speakers. There isn't any midrange driver on the CS1.6, yet the sound emanting from it is truly remarkable. I have heard Thiels before, and by God, that will be my ultimate purchase! Truly perfection.

This post has been edited by Razzd: Feb 3 2009, 04:18 PM

I would spend my money on headphones but not on speakers, i wanted one to compliment my headphone when I'm not using them.

if it's 2.1, which cheaps one have nice sound? I'm not bass head

Having it portable will be nice too, but MP300 just out of my budget.

This post has been edited by terradrive: Feb 3 2009, 04:02 PM

where did u buy S330D?? seem like cant find it around KL area. how much for D version?

I travel to Singapore quite a bit, and coincidentally I purchased the D version from Sim Lim Square (SLS). Paid RM440 (approx) for it (after conversion). That was mid last year.

Around mid-Jan, I was at SLS (again), and that was when I chanced on the (revised) Edifier S330/S2.1M with the RCA Analog input(s) only for S$125 or RM295.

As I mentioned, computer items & parts do not incur any form of taxation when you re-enter Malaysia. The Customs Officers should not be giving any of us a hard time trying to tax such items.

This post has been edited by Razzd: Feb 3 2009, 06:47 PM

as i have posted earlier, i was at SLS last year, got one shop selling S330 at S$129. some others still selling at S$199 though. but im glad the price is lowering... so that more ppl can get it...(i myself almost bought it, but thinking to get an C3)

hence, the great news is that Edifier S330 price is revised, ppl whose budget at about 300, soon can enjoy S330...

I would really like to know how the T3 bass sounds like but no idea which shop allows audition.

Its outlooks is similar to Bose Companion 3 and i have heard Companion 3 before. It excels in mid and high range even just on an onboard sound card. But the bass was kind of muffed. Maybe it needs a good soundcard to drive the bass.

What about Edifier C3??? it also have treble and bass adjustment. I thought all PC speaker have bass adjustment?

This post has been edited by Angel of Deth: Feb 3 2009, 08:13 PM

i've listened to : Edifier S330, S530, S730, C1, C2, C3...
i'd say, for the price C3 sounds good in my ear, but lacking of clarity like S330.

but for basshead like me, i'd go for C3 rather than S330. the only thing i dislike about C3 is that the wooden enclosure which have "lines" and heavy subwoofer. the separate amp is cool indeed.

bass adjustment is very general. but edifier speakers usually doesnt come with treble adjustment. only some "good" one come with., such as E3100, S530, C3 etc. i, personally, as a basshead would say Edifier which have nice subwoofer are those with treble controller.

Razzd,how to check the speaker's S/N?
is it depend on soundcard?because I notice that soundcard's specification has S/N.

Edifier C3 sounds quite nice provided u have a good sound card to drive it. I audition it w/o soundcard and the bass wasn't felt at all. The clarity wasn't there too. But i believe my X-Fi can do good so i proceeded to pay. And yea i'm right bout my point. When i got home total different experience. Was satisfied with it's mid and low range. But high range not good.
Almost all of the 2.1 systems comes with bass adjustment, but not all comes with treble. For example RM1.4k Bose Companion 3 doesn't comes with bass adjustment but it's music is superb.

Pricing aside, do you guys think Aego M is miles ahead of Edifier S330?

Yes! I'm using Aego M 3.1 setup. No regrets so far. But have to be sure of your budget. Aego M is not cheap, my Aego M cost nearly RM1.3k.

This post has been edited by presto86: Feb 4 2009, 03:12 PM

The shop you refer to is Best Price Computers located at #05 (Level 5). When you head up the escalator, it's the first shop you come to, on Level 5. Yes the Edifier S330 is confirmed $129 (RRP), normally the boss will be kind as to discount approx $5 or so, that's why I mentione $125.

Like the MP300+, which carried a RRP of $119, but I got $105 discounted as I purchased 2 units. The S330 for $199 was the D version with Digital Input(s). Prices here are in SGD. Forex is approx 2.38 to RM.

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Added on February 4, 2009, 3:58 pmWell, not all PC speakers have treble & bass adjustments. The Edifier S330/S2.1M does not. The Creative Gigaworks T3 does not. So do the superb portable Edifier MP300+. No treble & bass controls.

Honestly, we tend to "misuse" treble & bass adjustments. As I said, the primary intent is to correct for frequency anomalies and/or deficiencies. Not to "boost" beyond what is necessary to achieve a sound that is "nice" to us. Obviously such (PC) speakers have limitations, and equalization should only be used to cater for the missing frequency spectrum (whether it be low/mid/high frequencies). Frequency response is greatly affected by enviromental factors such as speaker placement, dampening/reflective materials in the room, etc.

Listen to a Thiel CS2.4 and you will be shocked how deep is the bass from the 8" woofer - it extends down to a staggering 33Hz!! Trust me, you will NOT require a subwoofer. There is ZERO equalization on the Thiels, just one well integrated and well made (metal) tweeter/mid range and one 8" woofer and a passive radiator. The Thiels convey music as it was meant to be - pure unadulterated, sound. Means if the recording sucks, you are essentially listening to crap...

I have not compared the Bose C3 to the Creative T3 side by side, but I have listened to the Bose C3 many a time (thru friends), and though the Bose sounds "good", the sound is highly processed. Bose uses sound "correction" (i.e. equalization) to enhance the output, so the sound from the C3 isn't clean. Bass cannot compare to the T3. It's loud, but not deep or tight.

These days, any decent onboard audio will drive good speakers relatively well. Yes, it's important, but when a speaker is well made, it shines with a decent sound card. Today's HD audio on notebooks and namely desktop motherboards (Gigabyte's implementation of the Realtek HD889A Audio Codec with a superb 106dB S/N is one example of an excellent on board audio) have come of age. They are very good indeed.

Creative demoed the T3 vs the C3 recently, and to say the least, the T3 won hands down. It's a world of difference, and this from reviewers and audio critiques. You can Google it if you don't believe me.

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Added on February 4, 2009, 4:15 pmNot all manufacturers quote S/N ratio. Generally, don't playback any thing while connecting your speakers to say a MP3 player. Turn up the vol to max, if you hear "hiss" coming from the drivers, the amp's S/N is relatively poor. Normally anything above say 90dB+ is considered acceptable. Best of amps/sound cards exhibit over 100dB S/N ratio.

I hear virtually no hiss from my T3s when max vol (not playing anything) - put your ear next to the driver in a quiet room. There is no such thing as zero hiss. If it's zero, means system is off. Even the Edifier MP300+ has very minimal hiss at max vol.

I recently decided to install a car amplifier for my faithful Perdana V6. I bought the Sony XM4S (50w x 4, but it is bridgable if you need it to drive a subwoofer). I've lived with my head unit's built in 50w x 4 for a long time. Decided it was time for an upgrade.

Paid RM1k thereabouts for all the wiring and the XM4S. My rear speakers are Sony 6x9"s and the front, separate 6.5" mid/woofer and a 1" tweeter.

The end result was something did not expect. I was shocked how much difference it made to the quality and clarity. Tremendous! I used to have to increase bass +6, treble +5 because my head unit's stock amp (though rated at 50w x 4) was clearly insufficient to drive the speakers well.

I now run the head unit to flat! Bass +0, Treble +0 and the output is so much cleaner, mids clear, and highs distinct. As audio fidelity in a vehicle is greatly affected by lack of bass, I had to compensate that by boosting the bass on the Sony amp only for the rear 6x9 speakers.

But I am terribly impressed... Overall I'd say 100% improvement.

I decided to buy the Sony amp though it's more than twice the cost of a conventional Brother's 4 channel amp. Money well spent. And truly, good systems can do without (necessary) equalization.

This post has been edited by Razzd: Feb 4 2009, 04:55 PM

wow,thanks a lot Razzd but still have lots of thing need ur help
Speakers have its own S/N,and it also will affected by the input?I mean if a speaker has good S/N while the input-soundcard has bad S/N,then it will sounds "hiss" too?
Every speakers have its own amplifier?

I need a help from professional.
Which one is better between AL V4221 vs Logitech Z-4?
I will using it mainly for PS3 gaming.

Sorry if I caused any confusion - speakers themsevles do not exhibit any form of S/N. The "noise" or S/N ratio is meant for the amplifier that is driving them.

Since PC speakers in general have built in amplifiers, manufacturers should quote S/N figures.

Excerpt: "Signal-to-noise ratio is measured in decibels (dB) and is the ratio of pure signal to that of the background noise. A low signal-to-noise ratio means that the player will have a lot of hiss and static, while a high rating means clear-sounding audio."

This post has been edited by Razzd: Feb 4 2009, 07:56 PM

i think thats the shop., after the escalator on 5th storey, the store is on the right, not in front of the escalator. i know that both the front and side of escalator sells computer speakers... the right one has lots of speakers, S330, S530, S730, C3, GMX A2.1 etc2. so hard to find such shop at SLS.
the shops on the front has edifier speakers at the right side. the shops on the right has edifier speakers at the rear of the store. ah nvm lah

hmm, wow
u bought 2 units of MP300+ ? i used to own a wonderful MP300 (as written on my siggy) but i gave it to my girlfriend since she needs it and i no longer travel alot these days. any idea how is it compared to the normal MP300? it has greater spec and Mr.Edifier says SQ is much better. personally MP300 has weak and muffled bass which is need to be tweaked along with a decent soundcard. the clarity isnt superb as well. i am thinking of how MP300 Plus perform with its own brother....

how come u bought it for rm1.3k? i thought people are selling at half that price..

I got my Aego (not M) back then from MikeChai for approx RM600+ (can't recall exactly). I suppose 2 x Aego (M or otherwise) will cost RM1.3K. It has served me well...

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Added on February 5, 2009, 12:11 amI am now auditioning my Edifier MP300+ compared to the Bose Soundock (1st Gen) which probably retails for > RM1K in the comfort of a 5-star hotel room I'm in.

On firing it up, the Edifiers immediately present a more open soundstage. The mids are forward and not recessed, flanked by sweet highs that are clear, not harsh. Vocals are clear, instruments distinct and a plesant tonal balance. There is a cohesive balance and solid integration between the sub and sats. Delivery is seamless.

Bass from the 2" aluminium tube, while present, is definitely limited in extension. However, it is sufficient, and certainly works well in unison to the sats. There is adequete bass - just don't expect booming deep bass. Overall, impressive low freq response from this 2" tube. While there is significant air emanting from the tube, port chuffing noise cannot be heard from the listening position.

Judging from the sitting distance in the hotel room (it is sufficiently damped with a thick carpet and drapes), I am pleased to report distinct and solid imaging from the Edifiers. Ramping up the volume shows the quality of components used. It reached a ludicrious level before I decided it was enough (I don't want the hotel manager knocking on my door), yet maintaning a balanced output from the bass tube and the sats. Not harsh or distorted. Impressive.

The Bose seems louder at first, on further listening to tracks from Sissel and Dave Koz, I realize there is limited high frequency extension. The imaging isn't as wide as the Edifiers, namely because the two drivers on the Bose are closer than the max spread of the sats on the MP300+. The lack of high frequency limits the Bose, tonally. Moving on to various classical, smooth jazz and pop tunes tracks, I was little surprised that the sound wasn't more appealing. Listening to pop or rock tracks wih software equalization made the music harsh and unpleasant. Adjusting the treble did help but I could find a nice balance that appeased me. Overall musical quality, while sufficiently loud, had little definition.

Bass, while seems stronger, isn't deep - there is more emphasis on the 60-100Hz band, playing tracks with deep bass yields chuffing from the ports. It is obvious, the Soundock employs sound equalization & enchancement. Imaging, while decent, cannot compare to the Edifiers. But what is severely lacking is the high freq extension. That limits the overall tonal quality of the music played. Sounds like something is amiss.

The mid range isn't as pronounced as the Edifiers. I relinquished listening to the Bose after a few tracks - much preferring the clear well portrayed mids/highs from the Edifiers to the Bose.

Not bad for a RM250 speaker.

This post has been edited by Razzd: Feb 5 2009, 01:21 PM