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Kremlin says details of submarine fire that killed 14 'cannot be made public'

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MOSCOW (AFP) - The Kremlin on Wednesday (July 3) said that details of a fire that killed 14 crew on a deep-water submersible will not be made public because they include classified information.

The seamen died on Monday in Russia's territorial waters in the country's far-north, but the disaster was only made public on Tuesday.

Officials have given little information about the vessel or the circumstances of the accident, with local media reporting that the ship was a secretive nuclear-powered mini-submarine.
"This information cannot be made public completely," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said of the disaster. "It belongs to the category of state secrets."

Mr Peskov said that President Vladimir Putin was informed immediately after the fire.

"It is completely normal when this kind of information is not made public," Mr Peskov said, adding that this was "within the law of the Russian Federation".

He said that "no decision has been made" about a period of mourning in the northern Russian region.



The Defence Ministry said the 14 crew were killed by inhaling poisonous fumes after a fire broke out on a "scientific research deep-sea submersible" studying the sea floor.

However, the Novaya Gazeta newspaper cited sources as saying that the accident took place on an AS-12 nuclear mini-submarine, which is capable of going to extreme depths.

The presence of many senior ranking officers on board could suggest that the submarine was not on an ordinary assignment.

President Putin has ordered a full investigation into what he called a tragedy.

He appointed Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu to travel to Severomorsk, the restricted-access military port in the Russian Arctic, and direct the probe.

The incident is the latest in a string of disasters and accidents to hit Russia's navy, with echoes of the sinking of the Kursk submarine in 2000 that claimed the lives of 118 personnel and shook the first years of Mr Putin's presidency.

During a meeting with Mr Shoigu on Tuesday, Mr Putin said the submarine in question was "not an ordinary vessel".

"As we know, it's a scientific-research vessel, its crew is highly professional," the Russian leader said.

He said the victims included seven Captain First Rank officers - the most senior staff officers in the Russian navy - and two have been awarded the Hero of Russia, a top title given out by the president.

A military expert who spoke to AFP on condition of anonymity rubbished claims that the fire happened during scientific research.

"Usually it's a cover for different type of work conducted on the seabed", such as laying cables, the expert said.

The fire was put out and the vessel returned to a military base in Severomorsk. It is not known how many were on board the sub.
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KAI LAH conducts maiden flight

04 July, 2019 SOURCE: FlightGlobal.com BY: Greg Waldron Singapore

Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) has conducted the maiden flight of its developmental Light Attack Helicopter (LAH) prototype.

The test saw two pilots conduct a 20 minute sortie with the rotorcraft at the company’s Sacheon production facility, says KAI.

The flight test followed a readiness review in June, where the company received approval to get the LAH airborne for the first time.


Link to full news article: KAI LAH conducts maiden flight


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India edges forward with rebooted plan to acquire 110 fighters

04 July, 2019 SOURCE: FlightGlobal.com BY: Greg Waldron Singapore

The Indian defence ministry’s response to a parliamentary question suggests that a plan to obtain 110 advanced fighters is inching through New Delhi’s bureaucracy.

The response followed a question posted by a parliamentarian regarding India’s ambitions for “public private partnerships” to develop indigenous manufacturing capabilities.

“The evaluation of responses to the request for information (RFI) and finalisation of SQR (Services Qualitative Requirements) have commenced,” said defence ministry official Mohan Naidu Kinjarapu in a written response.


Link to full news article: India edges forward with rebooted plan to acquire 110 fighters


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Boeing to produce or remanufacture up to 600 AH-64E Apaches

03 July, 2019 SOURCE: FlightGlobal.com BY: Garrett Reim Los Angeles

The US Army plans to grant Boeing a multiyear contract for the production or remanufacture of up to 600 AH-64E Apache attack helicopters.

The potential contract’s value was undisclosed, though it would consist of a five-year multiyear contract or one-year contract with options from FY2022 to FY2026, according to a US Army notice online. The army intends on sole sourcing the work to Boeing and posted its plan online so as to give other potentially interested parties a chance to bid.

The AH-64E is a modernised version of the AH-64D. The army is upgrading its attack helicopters to the “E” variant as part of its effort to sustain the Apache fleet through the year 2040.


Link to full news article: Boeing to produce or remanufacture up to 600 AH-64E Apaches
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Serbia outlines Orao modernisation programme

03 July, 2019 SOURCE: FlightGlobal.com BY: Igor Salinger Belgrade

Serbia's defence ministry has detailed a major upgrade programme being performed on its Soko J-22 Orao combat aircraft and NJ-22 trainers, which will significantly enhance the type's operational capabilities.

Speaking at the Partner 2019 exhibition in Belgrade in late June, Nenad Miloradovic, the defence ministry's assistant for defence technologies, confirmed that the modernisation activity – unofficially dubbed Orao 2.0 – will be conducted in two phases.

Serbia currently has about 10 J-22 and NJ-22 Oraos in an airworthy condition, plus a number of stored airframes, including in the IJ and INJ reconnaissance variants. The platform's expected service life was initially set at 24 years, but structural inspections have indicated that some examples could have this doubled or be approved for a further 1,000 flight hours following overhaul.


Link to full news article: Serbia outlines Orao modernisation programme


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NATO AWACS base to trial digital tower technology

03 July, 2019 SOURCE: FlightGlobal.com BY: Craig Hoyle London

NATO's main operating base for its Boeing E-3A airborne warning and control system (AWACS) fleet is to trial the use of digital tower air traffic control technology next year, with equipment supplied by Swedish venture Saab Digital Air Traffic Solutions.

Describing the contract as the first of its kind for employment at a military facility, the provider says: "NATO air base Geilenkirchen will use the digital tower for live operations during the refurbishment of the current control tower."


Link to full news article: NATO AWACS base to trial digital tower technology


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Boeing, Airbus in MoU for future RAAF P-8A sustainment

03 July, 2019 SOURCE: FlightGlobal.com BY: Greg Waldron Singapore

Boeing Defence Australia and Airbus Australia Pacific have agreed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) related to future sustainment of the Royal Australian Air Force's (RAAF's) Boeing P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft fleet.

The pair already deliver an interim sustainment support contract (ISSC), covering the fleet's service entry. The new agreement is aimed at securing a through-life support contract for the type.

The current ISSC deal will expire in October 2020.


Link to full news article: Boeing, Airbus in MoU for future RAAF P-8A sustainment
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What Can Malaysia Do With 2 Submarines?

Points to ponder for Malaysia’s first Defense White Paper.

By Adam Leong Kok Wey

July 06, 2019


Amid the ongoing public discourse related to the drafting of Malaysia’s first White Paper on Defense, there appears to be renewed interest today in the value of the two Scorpène-class submarines acquired for the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) in 2002. There are two views about the RMN’s submarines: one view considers that it is too costly to run a submarine fleet, and the second view questions the strategic value of just having a two-boat submarine fleet. Strategic history, however, will demonstrate that the value of submarines in peace and war lies in the capabilities of submarines to stealthily conduct a wide range of operations that can generate immense strategic effects far above the vessel’s tonnage.

Malaysia’s Scorpène submarines are hunter-killer types and diesel-electric powered. They can operate submerged for up to 21 days. The two Malaysian submarines were completed and delivered in 2009 and 2010, respectively.

Submarines have a multitude of functions such as gathering intelligence; carrying and launching nuclear ballistic missiles – providing a first and second strike capability – as a potent equation in nuclear deterrence strategy; launching land attack cruise missiles (such as the April 14, 2018 Tomahawk attacksagainst Syrian targets by U.S. and British military forces); stealthily infiltrating and exfiltrating special operations personnel; and traditional combat roles in time of war — hunting enemy submarines and sinking enemy surface ships (both naval and merchant), as well as laying mines. Most modern submarine operations focus on underwater intelligence gathering. Because of the covert nature of these operations, most people do not know that a large bulk of submarine operations are used for this role. Because of this secretive nature, the submarine force is commonly dubbed as the “silent service.”

Since the end of World War II, submarines have only twice engaged in sinking enemy ships. The strategic effects of these two sinkings, however, although not spectacular in terms of number or tonnage of ships sunk, had immense psychological impact and managed to garner consequences far above the weight of torpedoes launched.

The sinking of an Indian frigate, the INS Khukri by a Pakistani submarine, the PNS Hangor, in the 1971 India-Pakistan War had forced the Indian Navy to cancel a crucial attack on Karachi port as well as diverting and scattering valuable naval assets to search for and destroy the PNS Hangor. The fact that an enemy submarine, having just successfully sunk a frigate, was lurking in the Arabian Sea was more than enough to fuel the fear of further losses, which led to an intense anti-submarine operation to neutralize the threat.

HMS Conqueror’s sinking of ARA General Belgrano in the early stages of the Falklands War in 1982 likewise gained immense strategic effect for the British forces sailing to recapture the Falkland Islands. The entire Argentinian navy returned to port (including its sole aircraft carrier) and did not dare to venture out again during the Falklands War. Thus Argentina was not able to prevent British naval forces from launching a successful land operation that defeated the Argentinians in the Falklands. As British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher later remarked, “The sinking of the Belgrano turned out to be one of the most decisive military actions of the war.”

Submarines are also very useful in laying mines covertly at vulnerable but important maritime areas such as enemy ports (for blockades) and in narrow chokepoints. Mines have been a very useful naval weapon and were extensively used in some of the major wars and conflicts. A significant number of surface warships, submarines, and merchant ships have been sunk by mines. For example, in World War II, thousands of mines were laid in the Baltic Sea (which was instrumental in blockading Russia), in the Atlantic (to blockade Great Britain), and around Japan (successfully blockading the Japanese islands and cutting off vital war supplies to the Japanese). Mine clearance operations are costly, difficult, and time-consuming. A modern submarine such as the RMN’s Scorpènes can carry up to 30 mines, and in war is able to covertly maneuver into enemy harbors or vital maritime chokepoints to lay its mines at selected critical locations.

Malaysia’s regional neighbors such as Singapore and Indonesia have also procured submarines with respectable operating tempos. The Republic of Singapore Navy has two operational Challenger-class submarines (formerly the Swedish Sjöormenclass) and two Archer-class submarines (formerly the Swedish Västergötland class), and is acquiring four new Type 218SG subs from Germany. Indonesia operates five Type 209 submarines (of different variants) and has signed a contract for an additional three.  Meanwhile, Vietnam operates six Russian-made Kilo-class submarines and Thailand plans to procure up to three Type S26T submarines from China.

These developments in the region support the thesis that Malaysia’s decision to procure the two submarines in 2002 was correct. A long time is needed not just to build a submarine (averaging six years), but also to set up the infrastructure and logistics required to support the submarine fleet, and more importantly to train a capable and experienced submarine crew and maintenance personnel. The RMN pioneering submarine crew reportedly spent four years training in France learning how to operate a submarine. The attrition rate among submariners is also high – the long time spent underwater within confines the size of two train coaches, isolation from the outside world, and its related stress and deprivations are some of the reasons why it is hard to recruit, train, and retain submarine crews.

Since the size of the RMN is small, at around 15,000 sailors, the relative manpower base to source for its submarine personnel is limited. It requires substantial effort, cost, and time to train, maintain, and manage its submarine fleet’s crew.  Hence the current two-boat fleet needs to be viewed realistically not just from the angle of cost affordability and quantitative value but also the necessary manpower required to sustain its operational tempo.

Malaysia has extensive maritime interests and areas to manage, which include the Strait of Malacca and parts of the South China Sea, effectively making Malaysia responsible for some of the most important and busiest maritime sea lanes and critical choke points in the world. The two RMN submarines are essential for Malaysia’s defensive posture, which places importance on the practice of limited sea-control and anti-access naval strategies in selected maritime chokepoints and passageways.

According to the RMN’s “15-to-5 Transformation” plan, Malaysia’s navy will have a four boat submarine fleet by 2050. However, at the moment the RMN has to cope with just two submarines until budgetary funds are available to purchase more submarines and the silent service has enhanced its capacities and capabilities to man and operate a larger submarine fleet.

In view of the strategic utility and strategic history of submarines (that even a lone submarine can generate valuable strategic effects), the two Scorpène submarines, for now, are able to provide the RMN with the vital means to engage in the shadowy business of underwater warfare.

Dr. Adam Leong Kok Wey is an Associate Professor in strategic studies and the Deputy Director of Research in the Centre for Defence and International Security Studies (CDiSS) at the National Defence University of Malaysia.
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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Jul 7 2019, 02:05 PM)
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Indonesian National Police deploys largest-ever vessel for South China Sea patrols

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Navy International
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Yudistira, seen here during its sea trials in early-2019. Source: PT Daya Radar Utama

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• Indonesia has deployed its largest-ever police patrol vessel to the South China Sea
• The vessel will primarily conduct fishery resources protection duties in the Riau archipelago

The Indonesian National Police's water directorate has deployed its largest-ever patrol vessel, KP Yudistira (8003), to the service's Riau archipelago district command.

The vessel has been operating out of Batam island since mid-June 2019 where it conducts operations in and around the Riau archipelago in the South China Sea including the Natuna Islands cluster, reads a statement issued by the Indonesian National Police's public affairs office.

According to information from its shipbuilder, PT Daya Radar Utama (PT DRU), Yudistira has an overall length of 73 m, an overall beam of 11 m, a draft of 3 m, and a standard displacement of 1,100 tonnes. It was launched by PT DRU at its Tanjung Priok, North Jakarta shipyard on 4 May 2018.


Read more: https://www.janes.com/article/89697/indones...ina-sea-patrols

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Armed forces the last resort

By Liew Chin Tong
July 7, 2019 @ 11:32pm


I WAS sworn in as deputy defence minister on July 17 last year. Friends and colleagues often ask me: “What do you actually do at Mindef? Nothing much, right? You must be quite free, right?”

I also often joke with members of the armed forces I meet: “Your mother-in-law probably doesn’t know what you do, right?”, to which most of them laugh and agree. Recently, an ex-politician called for demilitarisation and for members of the armed forces to perform labouring tasks that others won’t do.

“Since Malaysia is not going to war under whatever circumstances, the armed forces might as well make themselves useful to society by contributing such services”, or “Women armed forces personnel can help clean up houses and conduct courses for housewives to improve standards of hygiene and enhance their living comfort”.

This, to me, epitomises the lack of understanding of the role of the armed forces by the public, even political leaders. Strangely enough, while many think that the military has nothing much to do, they recognise the effectiveness and efficiency of the armed forces in carrying out assigned duties. The military is expected to be the first responders in handling domestic issues, from tiger poaching to halting irregular migrants and patrolling airports. In other Southeast Asian states, the military has played a major role in running the country, though often not producing the best outcomes for the people.

In the Philippines and Indonesia, the political importance of the military became less apparent only in recent decades, since democratisation in 1986 and 1998 respectively. In Thailand, Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia, the government consists of strong military elements, while in Vietnam, the Communist state and the military are intertwined. Singapore has, since its independence, invested heavily in its national service. Hence all male adults, who would have served via mandatory conscription, have some understanding of the armed forces through first-hand experience. In Malaysia, civilian rule of the armed forces is established, and proven in the peaceful transition of government on May 9 last year.

The country is a unique case in Southeast Asia and its position is closer to the role played by the armed forces in mature democracies, such as the United Kingdom and Australia. It is thus, important for us to define the role of the armed forces vis-a-vis other civilian security forces and to ensure that all agencies work hand in hand to complement each other’s functions. In the Malaysian security structure, the police are a singularly centrally commanded force, unlike in many other countries. In Australia, for instance, community policing and crime prevention are a state function. The Malaysian police are effectively a paramilitary force. In Thailand and Indonesia, the police became independent of the armed forces only in the past two decades.

Structurally, our institutional arrangements serve Malaysia well. The downside to this is that Malaysians lack a common understanding of the role of the armed forces. This can be attributed to the long peace Malaysia has had since the Hatyai Accord signed in 1989, which ended the insurgency carried out by the Malayan Communist Party. Paradoxically, the long peace Malaysians enjoyed over the past three decades, with just several small but notable incidents, means that many of us don’t give much thought to the armed forces’ place in society. We, however, have taken peace for granted, not realising that it is actively maintained. Even in peacetime, the armed forces are assisting other agencies and performing tasks such as border duties, and contributing to global stability via the United Nations peacekeeping operations. They are often the unsung heroes that provide insurance coverage to the nation.

Malaysia has held a non-aligned foreign policy posture since the 1970s, even at the height of the Cold War, and has put much more emphasis on diplomacy than on any need to showcase military might in dealing with other countries. But this should not discount the importance of the armed forces training to be ready for any scenario of war or conflict, and to conduct what is called defence diplomacy activities with other countries. Indeed, the primary role of the armed forces is to prepare and to train for war.

Contrary to the perception that members of the armed forces “sit in their barracks and have nothing to do”, they train daily, involving themselves in exercises, patrolling borders, going on operations assigned to them and carrying out secondary duties to provide military assistance to civil authorities. I spent a night on board KD Jebat and KD Mahawangsa in October last year, and that experience has reinforced my belief in providing better family housing for military personnel (Rumah Keluarga Angkatan Tentera, or RKAT). I came to know that these ships had been sailing for more than a month when they picked me up. In fact, some ships sail more than 200 days a year.

During the sailing period, the sailors had no phone, Internet or any contact with their families. Imagine that they had to worry about their wives and children back home, who have to struggle with leaky roofs and faulty locks and worry about petty crime in the neighbourhood. The same goes for army personnel guarding the outposts at the Sarawak-Kalimantan border and the Malaysian-Thai border. I visited these outposts, and saw that many of the soldiers are on operations and are away from their families for six months in a year (often on two-month rotation, if not more), and even
when they are back at their camps, they work from Monday to Friday.

The armed forces, being the most organised force in the country, should provide assistance to civilian authorities and conduct operations other than war, such as during a humanitarian assistance and disaster relief. But we need to clarify the primary and secondary roles of the military and at what stage they need to be involved. We need to realise that the military is the last resort, not the first responders. A military man in uniform is of course a very impressive persona and this certainly has a deterrence effect on all sorts of criminals or in any disaster relief effort. What is needed, really, is for us to ensure that our civilian security organisations are so well prepared and so able that we need to deploy the military only last, not first.

Deploying the military has a cost usually unseen by the public or even government leaders. When on operations, military personnel do not really have time to dedicate to training. Being constantly in ops and not having time to train means that they won’t have the readiness needed in the event a military operation is called for. The nation as well as the government need to have clear strategic priorities and objectives for guiding the armed forces in their actions. As a society, we will also have to shed the idea that soldiers are an advanced version of cheap labour. The truth is, it is costly to train a soldier, and rightly so as wars are increasingly sophisticated and requires highly skilled and smart soldiers. Each time we deploy them, we need to think of them as a special and highly skilled group and not as labourers at our free disposal.

During former prime minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s craze over Professor W. Chan Khim’s “Blue Ocean Strategy”, there were two glaring examples of clear ignorance about the role of the armed forces that we should avoid, going forward. Chan Khim wrote at length in his book “Blue Ocean Shift” about how great it was getting the Malaysian army to set up six prisons in six different camps and using the armed forces to discipline prisoners, purportedly to ease overcrowding in our prisons, without taking into consideration that military personnel are not trained as professional prison managers like the prison officers. The other “Blue Ocean” folly was to get the paratroopers — one of the most extensively trained elite groups — to guard airports as a “show of presence” effort. I am very glad that the current government ended this foolish approach this year.

Unfortunately, the Defence Ministry in the past had been a quiet market place for past ministers to broker multibillion ringgit arms deals, buying big toys that the soldiers themselves did not actually want. The more secretive this was, the better it was for past governments. Hence, defence news only surfaced when it involves some corruption scandals, which is another reason that contributed to the public’s lack of understanding of the Armed Forces. The Defence Ministry and the Armed Forces need to do more to explain to the public, to civil servants and political leaders, of their roles and responsibilities. One of Defence Minister Mat Sabu’s major efforts since taking office is to draft a Defence White Paper which will be presented to parliament later this year. It will help to clarify to the nation what we actually want the armed forces to do. This is a very positive move. However, a lot more engagement is needed if we are to lessen the public’s ignorance and to guard the integrity of the armed forces.

The writer is deputy defence minister.


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Philippines to purchase 6 new NC-212i light lift aircraft from PTDI

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The PAF plans to order another 6 units of NC-212i from Indonesia's PTDI. Photo c/o PTV News.

The Philippine Air Force (PAF) announced its plans to acquire six (6) new NC-212i light lift aircraft from Indonesian aircraft manufacturer PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI).

PAF chief Lt. Gen. Rozano Briguez confirmed that deliveries of 6 new NC-212i aircraft will be arriving starting 2020. This was during the 72nd Founding Anniversary ceremonies on 02 July 2019 in Manila.

The PAF already operates 2 NC-212i aircraft it ordered in 2014. Back then, deliveries were delayed due to changes in the autopilot system and requires re-certification using a new autopilot system.


Read more: https://www.asiapacificdefensejournal.com/2...c-212i.html?m=1

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at least he got good point there.

hm....agree to much of the points he stated but saying and doing is different things...its easy to say but hard to do...even before i have heard some aide or assistant(someone involve with politician) of some politician involve with mindef acknowledge the problem with our procurement especially the things we choose instead what armed force need and want, but the deal go through. some do try and bring toward meeting but at the end of the day, its up to 'you know who'.

also...good luck trying to get the citizen to know much about defense. now its up to politician to get things done...armed force have BTDM,airtimes,FB page and other media which good job so far. hope the politician will get their act together and quote/share/support everything these media done to show support and make people aware what we have here...

the defense white paper(KPP) and the deal for LCA,MPA and MALE UAV will be the benchmark of how far can the new govt able to walk the talk. it will be interesting if the MPA and UAV will get decent enough money to get what the service want laugh.gif


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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jul 8 2019, 01:41 AM)
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Sorry lah, article panjang2 tapi isi takda pastu selit masuk politik
in the end tulis salah previous governmnet

dengan white paper ni pun banyak highlight apa yang orang nak dengan ATM bukan apa yang ATM mahu jugak chin tong weh. White paper ni pada aku buang masa je dah ada doktrin Hanruh tu

NBOS bukan a total lost pun, it is actually promoted better relation between government agencies

cuba tengok banjir 2012 and 2013, even before MKN orders are up the NBOS formula is working

ohh I forget, you have to actually be there to see this and not sitting somewhere just make noise

KLIA Para formula was inducted in NBOS not as just show off force but as a consideration after a high profile heist in KLIA not too long before it was introduce. Plus this show off force is actually done by many country after 11 september.

Hais ingatkan ok dia sbg DMOD, rupanya kulit aja isi tarak, kosong, yilek
but still better then the MOD.. haha
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 8 2019, 02:44 PM)
Sorry lah, article panjang2 tapi isi takda pastu selit masuk politik
in the end tulis salah previous governmnet

dengan white paper ni pun banyak highlight apa yang orang nak dengan ATM bukan apa yang ATM mahu jugak chin tong weh. White paper ni pada aku buang masa je dah ada doktrin Hanruh tu

NBOS bukan a total lost pun, it is actually promoted better relation between government agencies

cuba tengok banjir 2012 and 2013, even before MKN orders are up the NBOS formula is working

ohh I forget, you have to actually be there to see this and not sitting somewhere just make noise

KLIA Para formula was inducted in NBOS not as just show off force but as a consideration after a high profile heist in KLIA not too long before it was introduce. Plus this show off force is actually done by many country after 11 september.

Hais ingatkan ok dia sbg DMOD, rupanya kulit aja isi tarak, kosong, yilek
but still better then the MOD.. haha
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coming from the political party he is, its good enough what he write..also when compare to mat sabu,at least LCT is good laugh.gif

any good news you heard about our KPP???its silent....and i dont like when the h000haaa govt that we have silent on it...no teaser or anything even from malaysiandefence blog
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jul 8 2019, 03:58 PM)
coming from the political party he is, its good enough what he write..also when compare to mat sabu,at least LCT is good  laugh.gif

any good news you heard about our KPP???its silent....and i dont like when the h000haaa govt that we have silent on it...no teaser or anything even from malaysiandefence blog
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no not yet, hopefully soon
pening skerang nih

macam headless chicken pun ada
aiyaiyai...

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no not yet, hopefully soon
pening skerang nih

macam headless chicken pun ada
aiyaiyai...
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pening pasal apa tu??mai habaq kat cek laugh.gif

pasal LCA ke?
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pasal LCA ke?
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you know how headless jiken run

hahaha

mana bleh bagi tau details..

mati aku hahaha
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It is thus, important for us to define the role of the armed forces vis-a-vis other civilian security forces and to ensure that all agencies work hand in hand to complement each other’s functions.
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Malaysia has held a non-aligned foreign policy posture since the 1970s, even at the height of the Cold War, and has put much more emphasis on diplomacy than on any need to showcase military might in dealing with other countries. But this should not discount the importance of the armed forces training to be ready for any scenario of war or conflict, and to conduct what is called defence diplomacy activities with other countries. Indeed, the primary role of the armed forces is to prepare and to train for war.
Excellent points that even some of us here forget.

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Contrary to the perception that members of the armed forces “sit in their barracks and have nothing to do”, they train daily, involving themselves in exercises, patrolling borders, going on operations assigned to them and carrying out secondary duties to provide military assistance to civil authorities.
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n fact, some ships sail more than 200 days a year.
Excellent point, very important to highlight these to civilians.

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The armed forces, being the most organised force in the country, should provide assistance to civilian authorities and conduct operations other than war, such as during a humanitarian assistance and disaster relief. But we need to clarify the primary and secondary roles of the military and at what stage they need to be involved. We need to realise that the military is the last resort, not the first responders
Excellent point, that is again lost on some who should know better.

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Deploying the military has a cost usually unseen by the public or even government leaders. When on operations, military personnel do not really have time to dedicate to training. Being constantly in ops and not having time to train means that they won’t have the readiness needed in the event a military operation is called for.
A VERY excellent point which few civilians understand. You often see misguided complaints revolving around this issue even in the US, UK, etc.

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without taking into consideration that military personnel are not trained as professional prison managers like the prison officers. The other “Blue Ocean” folly was to get the paratroopers — one of the most extensively trained elite groups — to guard airports as a “show of presence” effort.
Totally agreed.

"Blue Ocean"... what a stupidly misused buzzword doh.gif

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Unfortunately, the Defence Ministry in the past had been a quiet market place for past ministers to broker multibillion ringgit arms deals, buying big toys that the soldiers themselves did not actually want. The more secretive this was, the better it was for past governments.

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Absolutely one of the biggest points, of course. We all know this.

Great article, clearly shows someone has been doing his homework.

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Many of the 'show of presence' types of patrols in civilian areas could and should be assigned to police paramilitary units like the PGA instead of the military itself. Something like the Gendarme units are doing in other countries.

They are much more familiar with policing procedures and part of their duties also involve policing & internal security.


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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 9 2019, 09:58 AM)
Many of the 'show of presence' types of patrols in civilian areas could and should be assigned to police paramilitary units like the PGA instead of the military itself. Something like the Gendarme units are doing in other countries.

They are much more familiar with policing procedures and part of their duties also involve policing & internal security.
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PGA work load dah full..that's why pakai tentera..dengan back up balai, rondaan, jaga sempadan la.. ada tu traffic pun ada..
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 9 2019, 09:58 AM)
Many of the 'show of presence' types of patrols in civilian areas could and should be assigned to police paramilitary units like the PGA instead of the military itself. Something like the Gendarme units are doing in other countries.

They are much more familiar with policing procedures and part of their duties also involve policing & internal security.
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For airports it is good to have PARA

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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Jul 7 2019, 04:05 PM)
a bit of BS, but a good read non the less... should have 3 subs instead... too bad lots of songlapz involved...

QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jul 8 2019, 03:41 AM)
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hmm... the armed forces is the iron fist of the state, it does not have to only focus on war.. its role depends on how parliament via cabinet decides it to be..

QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 8 2019, 04:44 PM)
Sorry lah, article panjang2 tapi isi takda pastu selit masuk politik

KLIA Para formula was inducted in NBOS not as just show off force but as a consideration after a high profile heist in KLIA not too long before it was introduce. Plus this show off force is actually done by many country after 11 september.

Hais ingatkan ok dia sbg DMOD, rupanya kulit aja isi tarak, kosong, yilek
but still better then the MOD.. haha
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he's a politician after all

if the paras have allocated the resources for that matter, it shouldnt be a prob.... unless of course it was an adhoc

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 9 2019, 11:58 AM)
Many of the 'show of presence' types of patrols in civilian areas could and should be assigned to police paramilitary units like the PGA instead of the military itself. Something like the Gendarme units are doing in other countries.

They are much more familiar with policing procedures and part of their duties also involve policing & internal security.
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does msia have regulations/law for military personal to operate at civi areas? or resources allocated for such operations? or just follow instructions just because from minister?

QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Jul 9 2019, 04:55 PM)
PGA work load dah full..that's why pakai tentera..dengan back up balai, rondaan, jaga sempadan la.. ada tu traffic pun ada..
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no harm, as long properly planned and executed... but usually that's not the case with msia... LD incident didnt help either

QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 9 2019, 05:23 PM)
For airports it is good to have PARA
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para or other unit doesnt matter... as long as their objective are met....
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jul 9 2019, 04:20 PM)
he's a politician after all

if the paras have allocated the resources for that matter, it shouldnt be a prob.... unless of course it was an adhoc
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It's allocated for the joint patrol
the personnel involved are not from the active standby list
they even allocated special pay for the task

plus why only para+police was mentioned here

there is also MP/Provos + police + JPAM + RELA patrol
especially in high crime area

and even MP/Provos aide some police and PBT operation in some point
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 9 2019, 09:03 PM)
It's allocated for the joint patrol
the personnel involved are not from the active standby list
they even allocated special pay for the task

plus why only para+police was mentioned here

there is also MP/Provos + police + JPAM + RELA patrol
especially in high crime area

and even MP/Provos aide some police and PBT operation in some point
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what's jpam n pbt?
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guys, wats our ROE for Vietkong fishergays encroaching Msian waters....?
boleh fire-on-sight x,legally?
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Civil defense (jabatan pertahanan awam) & local govt enforcers (pihak berkuasa tempatan)
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Civil defense (jabatan pertahanan awam) & local govt enforcers (pihak berkuasa tempatan)
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tq tq

actually i hv not encounter civil defence in msia b4...
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guys, wats our ROE for Vietkong fishergays encroaching Msian waters....?
boleh fire-on-sight x,legally?
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only arrest
then the court decide

QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jul 9 2019, 07:24 PM)
tq tq

actually i hv not encounter civil defence in msia b4...
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JPAM or now APM is the one with the bright blue uniform
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This demonstrates LCT's point about properly delineating agency responsibilities

And recognising additional costs of special deployments

His article is very relevant actually, more strategic and high level which is exactly Mindef's primary responsibility
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http://arcinc.id/2019/07/09/tni-al-pesan-l...al-rumah-sakit/

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An annual joint military exercise between the Singapore Army and the United States Army was launched yesterday afternoon at Mandai Hill Camp.

Exercise Tiger Balm was launched by Commander 6th Singapore Division, Brigadier-General Lee Yi-Jin, and the Adjutant General Hawaii National Guard, Brigadier-General Arthur J. Logan.

The annual exercise, which will end on July 19, was first conducted in 1981 and is the longest-running bilateral exercise between the two armies.

It involves approximately 766 personnel from the 76th Singapore Infantry Brigade and 5th Battalion Singapore Infantry Regiment (5 SIR), and the US Army's 33rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 2-130th Infantry Battalion (2-130 IN), and 1-23 Stryker Platoon.

Both armies will plan and execute conventional operations under the ambit of a Combined Task Force, where exercise participants undergo urban operations scenarios and deal with improvised explosive device threats. As part of the exercise, 1-23 Stryker Platoon will be operating with the US' Stryker Combat Vehicles while 5 SIR and 2-130 IN will be operating with the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF)'s Terrex Infantry Carrier Vehicles. These interactions allow both sides to build military-to-military interoperability and people-to-people ties.

At a speech during the opening ceremony, BG Lee said that Exercise Tiger Balm 2019 will provide an excellent opportunity to strengthen strategic partnership between both armies and continue the spirit of learning and professional sharing. He said, "I am excited about the opportunities that Exercise Tiger Balm 2019 will provide to deepen our strategic relationship in the spirit of mutual learning and professional sharing. In particular, the exercise will allow both Armies to operate together at the Combined Task Force and Brigade levels. This exchange of knowledge and shared collective experience will be invaluable should we be called upon to operate alongside each other."

Exercise Tiger Balm was first conducted in 1981 and is the longest-running bilateral exercise between the Singapore Army and the US Army. This annual exercise allows both armies to collaborate and share tactics, techniques and procedures, and is the hallmark of excellent and long-standing ties between both armed forces.

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Australia Issues RFI for Tiger Helicopter Replacement

The Australian government has begun its search for a new armed attack helicopter to replace the ARH Tiger fleet. The planned procurement will require capabilities in manned-unmanned teaming and amphibious operations (photo : Aus DoD)

The Australian government has issued a request for information (RfI) for a replacement of the Australian Army’s fleet of Airbus Helicopters ARH Tiger armed reconnaissance helicopters.

Under the Land 4503 programme, the Australian Department of Defence’s Capability Acquisition and Sustainment Group (CASG) is seeking information to acquire a total of 29 airframes. Of these 29, 24 are to be based at a single location, with a further five to be used for training operations.

The timelines for the programme anticipate an initial operating capability (IOC) of a squadron of 12 aircraft by 2026, with full operational capability (FOC) from 2028.

The concept of operations outlined in the RfI documentation include the ability to deploy a troop of four aircraft at the point of IOC, with the other eight aircraft split between continued force generation and build-up training. Once FOC is achieved, the Australian Army would be capable of “generating multiple concurrent deployed forces of up to Squadron [12 aircraft] size,” supported by a training system of up to five aircraft.

The procurement programme is targeting a reduced risk approach, with the cover letter for the RfI noting that the acquisition is aimed at a “proven and mature, off-the-shelf” system to “deliver armed reconnaissance efforts in close and deep contested battlespace”.

The RfI is also seeking information on a platform’s interoperability with unmanned systems, particularly as the country is replacing its fleet of Textron RQ-7 Shadow 200 under the Land 129 Phase 3 programme, and is acquiring the General Atomics Aeronautical Systems Inc’s (GA-ASI’s) MQ-9 Reaper under Air 7003 programme.


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msia to buy 2nd hand?

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Australia Issues RFI for Tiger Helicopter Replacement

The Australian government has begun its search for a new armed attack helicopter to replace the ARH Tiger fleet. The planned procurement will require capabilities in manned-unmanned teaming and amphibious operations (photo : Aus DoD)

The Australian government has issued a request for information (RfI) for a replacement of the Australian Army’s fleet of Airbus Helicopters ARH Tiger armed reconnaissance helicopters.

Under the Land 4503 programme, the Australian Department of Defence’s Capability Acquisition and Sustainment Group (CASG) is seeking information to acquire a total of 29 airframes. Of these 29, 24 are to be based at a single location, with a further five to be used for training operations.

The timelines for the programme anticipate an initial operating capability (IOC) of a squadron of 12 aircraft by 2026, with full operational capability (FOC) from 2028.

The concept of operations outlined in the RfI documentation include the ability to deploy a troop of four aircraft at the point of IOC, with the other eight aircraft split between continued force generation and build-up training. Once FOC is achieved, the Australian Army would be capable of “generating multiple concurrent deployed forces of up to Squadron [12 aircraft] size,” supported by a training system of up to five aircraft.

The procurement programme is targeting a reduced risk approach, with the cover letter for the RfI noting that the acquisition is aimed at a “proven and mature, off-the-shelf” system to “deliver armed reconnaissance efforts in close and deep contested battlespace”.

The RfI is also seeking information on a platform’s interoperability with unmanned systems, particularly as the country is replacing its fleet of Textron RQ-7 Shadow 200 under the Land 129 Phase 3 programme, and is acquiring the General Atomics Aeronautical Systems Inc’s (GA-ASI’s) MQ-9 Reaper under Air 7003 programme.
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trouble since it's early procurement phase
but some of the heli is not even 10 years old
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HMS Queen Elizabeth: Leak forces aircraft carrier to abandon sea trials


The UK's new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, has returned from sea trials early after a leak was found.

The Royal Navy's future flagship left Portsmouth Naval Base last month for five weeks of sea trials and training.

A Ministry of Defence (MoD) spokeswoman described the leak as "a minor issue with an internal system" on Britain's biggest warship.

The £3.1bn ship returned to Portsmouth as a precautionary measure after the leak was found on Tuesday.

The warship is expected to be the Navy's flagship for at least 50 years.

Water leaked into an internal compartment, where it was contained.

It was pumped out and the 900ft (280m) long warship returned to port.

The MoD said: "An investigation into the cause is under way."

This latest problem follows a number of other issues including a shaft seal leak, which caused the ship to take on 200 litres of water every hour, and the accidental triggering of the sprinklers in the hangar.

In May the captain of the aircraft carrier was removed from the ship amid claims he misused an MoD car.


HMS Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier facts

The Queen commissioned the warship into the Royal Navy fleet in December 2017
As part of the ceremony, an 8ft-long (2.44m) cake replica of the ship which required 7kg of flour and 160 eggs was cut
The £3.1bn carrier is capable of carrying up to 40 aircraft
The flight deck spans four acres and will be used to launch the F35 stealth fighter
When the warship becomes operational in 2020 it will carry about 1,600 crew

HMS Queen Elizabeth - The Royal Navy's largest ever surface warship

Tonnes 65,000
Cost £3.1bn
280m Flight deck length
700 Crew currently on board
155,000 miles Length of electrical cable inside the ship
162db Volume of foghorn
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jul 9 2019, 07:24 PM)
tq tq

actually i hv not encounter civil defence in msia b4...
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Bizarrely, most of their job here is for wild animal control. If you wanna get rid of a snake in your house, confirm either call Bomba or APM. laugh.gif

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new leak???the media will have fun on this. laugh.gif
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Malaysian Armed Forces ensure better operational interoperability with a dedicated Joint Force Headquarters

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The development of the fully equipped Joint Force Headquarters (Markas Angkatan Bersama-MAB) Complex in Sungai Panching here will enable the planning, co-ordination and joint operations handling aspects to be implemented in an orderly manner.

Malaysian Armed Forces (MAF) chief General Tan Sri Zulkifli Zainal Abidin said the coherency, commitment and cooperation of the three branches of service, namely land, sea and air, were very much emphasised upon to ensure national defence would continue to be strong.

In addition, developing the capacity of the MAF was always prioritised, including in the development of the complex on a 39 ha site which was also equipped with an administrative centre, operations centre and a sophisti­cated joint warfare centre which could accommodate a large number of exercise participants.

‘’Sungai Panching was selected because of its strategic position close to major transportations, whether via air or sea and road access which can connect army camps, the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) and the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF).

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‘’The complex also proves that we have the capacity to conduct in situ training with adequate and sophisticated infrastructure and facilities,’’ he said at the Sungai Panching Camp MAB Operations parade ceremony here.

Also present were RMN chief Admiral Datuk Reza Mohd Sany, RMAF chief General Tan Sri Affendi Buang and MAB chief Lieutenant General Datuk Suhaimi Mohd Zuki.

‘’I fervently hope that with the availability of the conducive administration centre, facilities and operations infrastructure, the domestic and global operations and numerous training involving bilateral, multilateral and even multinational participations can be handled more systematically and resolutely.

‘’The operations of the MAB must be capable of becoming an example and excellence benchmark not only to the three branches of service but also to outside organisa­­tions and armed forces of other nations,” he added. – Bernama

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Malaysian lawmakers furious over encroachment of foreign fishermen, call for stricter measures in revised Fisheries Bill

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The Harian Metro's exclusive report yesterday received the attention of MPs when they linked the issue of fishermen's invasion in the debate on the Fisheries Bill (Amendment) Bill 2019 in Dewan Rakyat, here.

The issue became the focus after Mohd Shahar Abdullah (BN-Paya Besar) lifted and presented the front page of the Harian Metro while quoting Dr Azman Ismail's debate (PH-Kuala Kedah).

Dr Azman was the first speaker of 36 delegates debating the second reading Bill of Fisheries (Amendment) Bill.

Mohd Shahar called on the ministry to clarify the issues that the Special Harian Metro exposé revealed.

He praised the exposé of this newspaper which he described as taking a risk of exposing the corruption and defending the livelihood of local fishermen.

"I woke up this morning and read Harian Metro. I highly admire the efforts of the Harian Metro Special Squad who are willing to risk their lives in this exposé.

"How can there be two ships using the same registration? All this needs to be investigated by the minister, "he said.

Shaharizukirnain Abd Kadir (PAS-Setiu) also questioned whether there was an intervention by a third party other than the related agencies on the issue of the invasion of foreign fishermen in the country's waters.

He also followed Harian Metro's report on the issue and asked the government to help provide funds for local fishermen to buy new boats.

Kemaman MP Che Alias ​​Hamid also touched on the exposé through Harian Metro's report and hoped that uncompromising action would be taken on the responsible parties.

"To what extent vessel monitoring operations will be taken as enforcement is seen to be weaker today. I want to know also what use of the latest technology to prevent encroachment, "he said.

The issue was also touched by Sik representative Ahmad Tarmizi Sulaiman, who urged the government to take immediate action to prevent local fishermen from being affected.

"What Harian Metro has reported is very serious because of plundering the livelihood of local fishermen. Please consider, Honorable Minister, "he said.

Meanwhile, Bagai Serai Member of Parliament Datuk Dr Noor Azmi Ghazali suggested that the government impose a maximum fine including firing on encroaching foreign vessels.

"Capture these thieves immediately," he said.

Meanwhile, Kuala Terengganu MP Ahmad Amzad Mohamed recommends more Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPVs) to be allocated to the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) to address the issue of invasion of foreign fishermen.

"I was informed that our patrol assets have unsatisfactory maintenance times. Patrol assets need to be maintained well and efficiently so that operations are not interrupted.

"In addition, I would like to get an explanation of the actual number of MMEA patrol vessels today in ready-to-serve condition to handle the current problems," he said.

He added that enforcement agencies need to be supplied with high-tech assets such as OPVs to expand enforcement activities.

"It is understood that these vessels has been a great success for example the KM Pekan in Terengganu every day have detained an average six fishing boats a day, an achievement that I am very proud of.

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[B]MMEA's KM Pekan OPV


"In fact, more maintenance provisions allow them to operate from 70 to 200 nautical miles for a longer time.

"The government needs to provide motherships for the MMEA so that they can be in our waters at all times," he said.[/B]

The session also received the same reaction from other elected representatives including Datuk Dr Abd Latiff Ahmad (PH-Mersing) who recommended the proposed collaboration and discussion on this issue with all Asean countries.

Most of the representatives who discussed also supported the firm action taken to address the issue of invasion of Vietnamese fishermen.

Harian Metro in an exclusive report yesterday revealed the confession of the middleman who exposed the corruption of local boat operators that benefit encroaching Vietnamese fishermen.

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Bizarrely, most of their job here is for wild animal control. If you wanna get rid of a snake in your house, confirm either call Bomba or APM. laugh.gif

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Malaysian Armed Forces ensure better operational interoperability with a dedicated Joint Force Headquarters

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The development of the fully equipped Joint Force Headquarters (Markas Angkatan Bersama-MAB) Complex in Sungai Panching here will enable the planning, co-ordination and joint operations handling aspects to be implemented in an orderly manner.

Malaysian Armed Forces (MAF) chief General Tan Sri Zulkifli Zainal Abidin said the coherency, commitment and cooperation of the three branches of service, namely land, sea and air, were very much emphasised upon to ensure national defence would continue to be strong.

In addition, developing the capacity of the MAF was always prioritised, including in the development of the complex on a 39 ha site which was also equipped with an administrative centre, operations centre and a sophisti­cated joint warfare centre which could accommodate a large number of exercise participants.

‘’Sungai Panching was selected because of its strategic position close to major transportations, whether via air or sea and road access which can connect army camps, the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) and the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF).

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‘’The complex also proves that we have the capacity to conduct in situ training with adequate and sophisticated infrastructure and facilities,’’ he said at the Sungai Panching Camp MAB Operations parade ceremony here.

Also present were RMN chief Admiral Datuk Reza Mohd Sany, RMAF chief General Tan Sri Affendi Buang and MAB chief Lieutenant General Datuk Suhaimi Mohd Zuki.

‘’I fervently hope that with the availability of the conducive administration centre, facilities and operations infrastructure, the domestic and global operations and numerous training involving bilateral, multilateral and even multinational participations can be handled more systematically and resolutely.

‘’The operations of the MAB must be capable of becoming an example and excellence benchmark not only to the three branches of service but also to outside organisa­­tions and armed forces of other nations,” he added. – Bernama

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 11 2019, 08:34 AM)
Malaysian Armed Forces ensure better operational interoperability with a dedicated Joint Force Headquarters

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The development of the fully equipped Joint Force Headquarters (Markas Angkatan Bersama-MAB) Complex in Sungai Panching here will enable the planning, co-ordination and joint operations handling aspects to be implemented in an orderly manner.

Malaysian Armed Forces (MAF) chief General Tan Sri Zulkifli Zainal Abidin said the coherency, commitment and cooperation of the three branches of service, namely land, sea and air, were very much emphasised upon to ensure national defence would continue to be strong.

In addition, developing the capacity of the MAF was always prioritised, including in the development of the complex on a 39 ha site which was also equipped with an administrative centre, operations centre and a sophisti­cated joint warfare centre which could accommodate a large number of exercise participants.

‘’Sungai Panching was selected because of its strategic position close to major transportations, whether via air or sea and road access which can connect army camps, the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) and the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF).

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‘’The complex also proves that we have the capacity to conduct in situ training with adequate and sophisticated infrastructure and facilities,’’ he said at the Sungai Panching Camp MAB Operations parade ceremony here.

Also present were RMN chief Admiral Datuk Reza Mohd Sany, RMAF chief General Tan Sri Affendi Buang and MAB chief Lieutenant General Datuk Suhaimi Mohd Zuki.

‘’I fervently hope that with the availability of the conducive administration centre, facilities and operations infrastructure, the domestic and global operations and numerous training involving bilateral, multilateral and even multinational participations can be handled more systematically and resolutely.

‘’The operations of the MAB must be capable of becoming an example and excellence benchmark not only to the three branches of service but also to outside organisa­­tions and armed forces of other nations,” he added. – Bernama

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jul 11 2019, 10:13 AM)
hmm, i wonder why cant integrate both like singkieland
its about time... took them rather long
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unlike rela that trained to be some sort of para-military APM is more to rescue and civil duty

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new leak???the media will have fun on this.  laugh.gif
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MMEA wants at least four motherships to maintain control of Malaysian waters

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PUTRAJAYA: Creating a floating headquarters using larger-sized ship platform is among the effective methods in the fight against the intrusion of foreign fishing boats from Vietnam in the waters of the country.

Maritime Enforcement Agency Director-General Datuk Seri Zulkifili Abu Bakar said the large-scale asset constraints caused the company to rely on KM Pekan's services to carry out operations to the boundary of the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ).

He said if his agency had more large assets, the agency's enforcement mothership could be at sea for a longer period of up to 30 days compared to 14 to 20 days with existing assets.

So far, KM Pekan has three boats and plans are afoot to increase the amount of the assets.

"If we acquire four units of motherships we will be able to effectively manage operations on the East Coast of Peninsular Malaysia, Sabah and Sarawak at the same time. If the ship is in excess of 100 nautical miles from the coast, surveillance can be performed optimally.

"The larger capacity of a mothership, including six boats onboard allows patrols to reach a 40 nautical mile radius and that is quite wide.

"This 110-meter-long vessel can also be equipped with an unmanned aircraft (UAV) to further enhance intelligence and surveillance from the air," he said when met at his office here yesterday.

Zulkifili said he also hoped to add two units of Maritime Surveillance Aircraft (MSA) capable of flying up to 12 hours to strengthen the agency's operations.

According to him, MMEA is currently in the process of acquiring six new Generation Patrol Boats (NGPC) and three Offshore Patrol Boats (OPV).

"Three NGPC units have been received and the remainder will follow, as well as the OPVs. If the government approves the acquisition of the mothership as our floating platform of operations, we will be more effective.

"The Large size allow this vessel to carry higher quantities of fuel, food and water. The crew assignment can also be divided into three shifts as the number of officers and members is brought in more, "he said.

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"If we acquire four units of motherships we will be able to effectively manage operations on the East Coast of Peninsular Malaysia, Sabah and Sarawak at the same time. If the ship is in excess of 100 nautical miles from the coast, surveillance can be performed optimally.

"The larger capacity of a mothership, including six boats onboard allows patrols to reach a 40 nautical mile radius and that is quite wide.

"This 110-meter-long vessel can also be equipped with an unmanned aircraft (UAV) to further enhance intelligence and surveillance from the air," he said when met at his office here yesterday.

Zulkifili said he also hoped to add two units of Maritime Surveillance Aircraft (MSA) capable of flying up to 12 hours to strengthen the agency's operations.


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that is a very tall order...especially the 4 mother ship...although another MSA is logic tho...

let see how this goes... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jul 12 2019, 01:20 PM)
that is a very tall order...especially the 4 mother ship...although another MSA is logic tho...

let see how this goes...  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jul 12 2019, 01:20 PM)
that is a very tall order...especially the 4 mother ship...although another MSA is logic tho...

let see how this goes...  laugh.gif
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The mothership concept itself is not that advanced thing to develop and build. Just a resupply ship/platform for the patrolling vessels to keep them out to sea longer without the need to return to port so often.

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MMEA doesn't really require high grade military-spec equipment, so it should be within the means of local shipyards to build these kinds of ships. The design however can be either local or foreign, should not be too much or costly to develop and build, unlike TLDM ships.

Back in LIMA 19, some local groups have already put forward their designs for MMEA motherships.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 12 2019, 05:47 PM)
MMEA doesn't really require high grade military-spec equipment, so it should be within the means of local shipyards to build these kinds of ships. The design however can be either local or foreign, should not be too much or costly to develop and build, unlike TLDM ships.

Back in LIMA 19, some local groups have already put forward their designs for MMEA motherships.
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ship itself is not difficult... its the integration of various systems and the software involved if things like USV n UAV are to be included... of course without those it can still be operated crudely on an individual basis
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nak camping tepi kapal CCG kot
rilek je parking kat Pattinggi Ali 2 bulan tak payah resup
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idea bagus tu...tapi entah la...tak dengar lagi pasal govt ni nak beli barang untuk security force setakat ni...tu sebab rasa macam susah nak dapat...paling2 pun bawak meeting....harap2 ada la rezeki untuk MMEA ni...bawah kementerian baru mungkin ada harapan kot...

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 12 2019, 03:33 PM)
The mothership concept itself is not that advanced thing to develop and build. Just a resupply ship/platform for the patrolling vessels to keep them out to sea longer without the need to return to port so often.
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i'm concerning about the budget...the safest way for budget and getting the ship is maybe follow the bunga mas 5 ship and KA Tun Azizan...also its better for more budget for the next batch of MMEA NGPC and OPV.i like that 2 type ship since its good on cost and capability.
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Launching of TLDM second LMS PCU Sundang.

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jul 12 2019, 04:25 PM)
idea bagus tu...tapi entah la...tak dengar lagi pasal govt ni nak beli barang untuk security force setakat ni...tu sebab rasa macam susah nak dapat...paling2 pun bawak meeting....harap2 ada la rezeki untuk MMEA ni...bawah kementerian baru mungkin ada harapan kot...
i'm concerning about the budget...the safest way for budget and getting the ship is maybe follow the bunga mas 5 ship and KA Tun Azizan...also its better for more budget for the next batch of MMEA NGPC and OPV.i like that 2 type ship since its good on cost and capability.
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tu pasal MMEA dulu sengaja diletakan dibawah JPM, supaya the first 20 years depa boleh cukup dana untuk operate esp dalam pembelian aset

dalam Malaysia APMM and PM has the most operation area esp small boats, the boat operation even exceed the limit of some of the boat and maintenance need to be done more then regular

esp Sarawak and Sabah, dunno why the operation of small fast boat is high

then Malacca straits
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Romanian Army Negotiates The Purchase Of Leopard 2 Tanks

By Valeriu Lazar On Jul 12, 2019

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The Romanian Army wants modern tanks and negotiates the purchase of last generation Leopard 2 tanks.

The modernization programme would start in 2020, the European Defense Agency says, digi24.ro reports.

Specialists say they are awaiting the latest industry reactions before launching the final consultations with our country and three other countries: Spain, Greece and Cyprus.

Leopard 2 is, besides Germany, equipping 11 other European states. The tank is considered to be among the best in the world, propelled by a diesel engine of 1,500 horsepower and equipped with cannon that can hit a target 2,000 meters away.

According to ‘Jane’s Defense Weekly’, the cost of such a tank can exceed EUR 8 million.


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Nice pics of the Indonesian Army Leopard 2RI Main Battle Tank. Credit to Jeff Prananda.

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 12 2019, 06:22 PM)
sebenarnya duduk bawah KDN ni lagi sakit pasal KDN got more mouth to feed
tu pasal MMEA dulu sengaja diletakan dibawah JPM, supaya the first 20 years depa boleh cukup dana untuk operate esp dalam pembelian aset

dalam Malaysia APMM and PM has the most operation area esp small boats, the boat operation even exceed the limit of some of the boat and maintenance need to be done more then regular

esp Sarawak and Sabah, dunno why the operation of small fast boat is high

then Malacca straits
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entah la bro....ada yang kata,bawah KDN ni patut lagi senang nak bajet sebab KDM selalu uruskan bajet operasi macam polis...jadi patut senang...tapi tu sembang politician...tak tau lagi ape jadi lepas ni...harap lagi baik la

pernah tengok dkt berita dulu bot polis ni semua tempat die redah...ape boleh buat...tugas kena dijalankan..tak buat nanti jadi macam2 lagi...

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 12 2019, 03:47 PM)
MMEA doesn't really require high grade military-spec equipment, so it should be within the means of local shipyards to build these kinds of ships. The design however can be either local or foreign, should not be too much or costly to develop and build, unlike TLDM ships.

Back in LIMA 19, some local groups have already put forward their designs for MMEA motherships.
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you mean this ship??look like this will be MMEA want laugh.gif
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It allows the MPMS to deploy up to five CJ66 Fast Interceptor Crafts and two smaller RHIBs. The CJ66 FIC features a 12 meters-long composite hull and an endurance of 250 nm. It is powered by three Mercury Verado engines (350 hp), allowing a maximum speed of 60 knots.

But the most important structure remains the helipad mounted above the ship’s bow. According to the Muhibbah drawing, the landing deck will be strengthened enough to receive the MMEA AW 139 medium-sized helicopter.

The MPMS can transport substantial amount of fuel, water and provisions to accommodate 154 sailors, helicopters crews and supporting troops during 30 days.
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RAF Nato row after 'totally unacceptable' engine problems keep £2.6bn fleet on the ground
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/10...lems-keep-26bn/
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RAF Nato row after 'totally unacceptable' engine problems keep £2.6bn fleet on the ground
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/10...lems-keep-26bn/
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if in eu already so cacated... i wonder what's the condition of the msian one... if another LD happens, gotta call tony again?
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crew dun hv overalls to wear yet?
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The crew wears DPM camo overalls as shown from this video screenshots:

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jul 13 2019, 01:27 PM)
The crew wears DPM camo overalls as shown from this video screenshots:

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waa, thanks... just got to know... but dont think its a good idea to have camo on an overall..
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jul 13 2019, 10:02 AM)
entah la bro....ada yang kata,bawah KDN ni patut lagi senang nak bajet sebab KDM selalu uruskan bajet operasi macam polis...jadi patut senang...tapi tu sembang politician...tak tau lagi ape jadi lepas ni...harap lagi baik la

pernah tengok dkt berita dulu bot polis ni semua tempat die redah...ape boleh buat...tugas kena dijalankan..tak buat nanti jadi macam2 lagi...
you mean this ship??look like this will be MMEA want  laugh.gif
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memang sambang politik je pun
KDN brapa byk agensi dia ada
MMEA ni lama2 patut letak bawah Navy jugak mcm USCG
tp pasal MMEA kita ni follow doctrin Jepun jadi tak sama la

Nak kapal besar tu jangan harap la
cerita pasal OPV pun tengah senyap je ni.

and I havent see the Bombadier flying for awhile now

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if in eu already so cacated... i wonder what's the condition of the msian one... if another LD happens, gotta call tony again?
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why want to call tony?
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waa, thanks... just got to know... but dont think its a good idea to have camo on an overall..
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Why? Tank crew wearing camo overall is common.

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Nak kapal besar tu jangan harap la
cerita pasal OPV pun tengah senyap je ni.

and I havent see the Bombadier flying for awhile now

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OPV MMEA yang JV THHE dan destini tu ke?ada ape2 cerita ke??effect tabung haji pun kene dkt THHE atau govt lambat bayar lagi laugh.gif
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and I havent see the Bombadier flying for awhile now

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jul 13 2019, 05:07 PM)
OPV MMEA yang JV THHE dan destini tu ke?ada ape2 cerita ke??effect tabung haji pun kene dkt THHE atau govt lambat bayar lagi  laugh.gif
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aku tak boleh nak cakap pasal bleh kene balik aku nanti
jadi kita tunggu bersama-sama
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tunggu next wildfire/peatland fires, nanti ade le kt langit tuh  biggrin.gif
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jadi kita tunggu bersama-sama
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Why? Tank crew wearing camo overall is common.

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dun use pak arab as example ler... any from nato?
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dun use pak arab as example ler... any from nato?
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Lol. The 1st pic is a German Leopard 2 tank crew.

Australian M1Abrams tank crew:

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Almost all of the tank crews in the Strong Europe Tank Challenge wears camo overalls or uniforms:

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Lol. The 1st pic is a German Leopard 2 tank crew.

Australian M1Abrams tank crew:

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German Leopard 2 tank crew:

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Almost all of the tank crews in the Strong Europe Tank Challenge wears camo overalls or uniforms:

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Vietnamese fishermen ram KM Pekan trying to escape arrest, MMEA Dir-Gen authorizes use of force if necessary


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KUALA LUMPUR: The aggressive actions Vietnamese fishermen does not break the morale of the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) and the agency will continue to defend the country's waters including using force if necessary.

MMEA Director-General Admiral Maritim Datuk Seri Zulkifili Abu Bakar said his side was never affected but enforcement duties would continue with a more proactive approach.

"We will continue our enforcement efforts, if they (Vietnamese fishermen) make another attempt, we will defend ourselves with whatever means necessary including using deadly weapons if our safety is threatened.

"This is normal, and we are not afraid of their attempts" he told Harian Metro yesterday.

He was commenting on the actions of aggressive Vietnamese fishermen ramming the MMEA's KM Pekan OPV using their boat while trying to escape enforcement.

"They are still stubbornly catching our fish, so when they see KM Pekan's presence, they are afraid and try to damage our ship to frustrate our enforcement duties.

"It's just an attempt to frighten us, but it does not work," he said.

Last Tuesday, KM Pekan's crew took four hours before they managed to intercept Vietnamese fishing boats who had rammed the vessel while trying to escape.


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Didnt see this posted here, but this made the news a few days ago in the US....

All the memes now roasting the other branches vs the coasties


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QUOTE(miuk @ Jul 15 2019, 11:04 AM)
Didnt see this posted here, but this made the news a few days ago in the US....

All the memes now roasting the other branches vs the coasties


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those guys have balls... why didnt throw flash bang in... lelz, that would be epic
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Vietnamese fishermen ram KM Pekan trying to escape arrest, MMEA Dir-Gen authorizes use of force if necessary


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QUOTE(miuk @ Jul 15 2019, 09:04 AM)
Didnt see this posted here, but this made the news a few days ago in the US....

All the memes now roasting the other branches vs the coasties

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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saw this on reddit when its hot...nobody open at kopitiam??...

also why roast other branches tho??
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i believe no country should ever do so.. as part of asean, it is best to do it in a peaceful manner... even towing the vessel with arrest is not as bad as shooting or sinking vessels...
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jul 15 2019, 12:07 PM)
i believe no country should ever do so.. as part of asean, it is best to do it in a peaceful manner... even towing the vessel with arrest is not as bad as shooting or sinking vessels...
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shoot here does not mean shot at the boat...before this,some of our enforcement shoot a warning shot when found stubborn fisherman in our territories. its a good and stern measure.


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ASCOD Medium Main Battle Tank (MMBT).

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KUALA LUMPUR: Penyelam Agensi Penguatkuasaan Maritim Malaysia (APMM) mengambil masa tiga jam bagi membuang tali dan pukat yang dilemparkan nelayan Vietnam ketika cubaan meloloskan diri dari penguat kuasa kira-kira 97 batu nautika dari Kuala Tok Bali, Kelantan, Selasa lalu.

Pegawai Memerintah KM Pekan Kapten Maritim Che Engku Suhaimi Che Engku Daik berkata, empat kru penyelam APMM dikerahkan bagi memotong tali dan pukat yang tersangkut pada kipas KM Pekan milik agensi itu.

“KM Pekan masih boleh bergerak cuma mengalami sedikit gegaran selepas tali dan pukat dibuang nelayan Vietnam tersangkut pada kipas.

“Sehubungan itu, empat penyelam diturunkan ke laut bermula jam 7 pagi hingga 10 pagi sehari selepas kejadian (Rabu).

“Selepas pukat dan tali sepanjang antara 50 hingga 200 meter dan ketebalan 2 inci (5cm) hingga 4 inci (10cm) berjaya dipotong, keadaan KM Pekan kembali normal,” katanya.
https://www.hmetro.com.my/utama/2019/07/475...fYVtHBPxMXbsBoU
time for even more stern action???what your opinion bro LTZ
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time for even more stern action???what your opinion bro LTZ
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We could do the stern action, as directed by the politician. But.... those politicians should understand our capabilities too. They cannot simply give order but they dont actually know that we are not that capable in term of assets & manpower (we are a maritime nation, but our enforcement agencies are not geared towards that capability)
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jul 16 2019, 11:11 PM)
We could do the stern action, as directed by the politician. But.... those politicians should understand our capabilities too. They cannot simply give order but they dont actually know that we are not that capable in term of assets & manpower  (we are a maritime nation, but our enforcement agencies are not geared towards that capability)
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haih.... really hope we will get good news on contract of new ship for MMEA or navy...
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jul 16 2019, 11:20 PM)
haih.... really hope we will get good news on contract of new ship for MMEA or navy...
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None right now though, what stuff we are hearing about right now is probably what the Navy and MMEA will have for the next 5-8 years. The Navy will be busy with the remaining LCS and LMS while MMEA can look forward to the 3 Damen OPVs and the remaining 3 NGPCs.

Beyond that probably the Navy will be looking at the MRSS and the MMEA will be planning for their 'mothership' program.

The MMEA is desperately short of funding though right now. They are expecting MMEA to be the country's peacetime navy but are allocated only a fraction of the funds of the actual navy.


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None right now though, what stuff we are hearing about right now is probably what the Navy and MMEA will have for the next 5-8 years. The Navy will be busy with the remaining  LCS and LMS while MMEA can look forward to the 3 Damen OPVs and the remaining 3 NGPCs.

Beyond that probably the Navy will be looking at the MRSS and the MMEA will be planning for their 'mothership' program.

The MMEA is desperately short of funding though right now. They are expecting MMEA to be the country's peacetime navy but are allocated only a fraction of the funds of the actual navy.
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yup...been reading at marhalim blog...trying to be positive here...who know if it got funded... laugh.gif


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Didnt see this posted here, but this made the news a few days ago in the US....

All the memes now roasting the other branches vs the coasties


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Kadang aku pelik politician ngan MMEA ni. Nak 4 motherships ... padahal solution depan mata. BM5 dan BM6 RMN auxiliary ships kan ex- MISC commerce vessels.

Dok pening2 pikir baik beli ex commerce vessels from MISC fleet dan buat cosmetic sikit tup tap jadi Coast Guard mothership. Segala macam dapat jimat.
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jul 17 2019, 10:42 AM)
Kadang aku pelik politician ngan MMEA ni. Nak 4 motherships ... padahal solution depan mata. BM5 dan BM6 RMN auxiliary ships kan ex- MISC commerce vessels.

Dok pening2 pikir baik beli ex commerce vessels from MISC fleet dan buat cosmetic sikit tup tap jadi Coast Guard mothership. Segala macam dapat jimat.
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correct also bro..living quaters bigger and more food fuel can simpan.

put loading crane and carry 5-10 fast boats for patrol and intercept rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jul 17 2019, 10:42 AM)
Kadang aku pelik politician ngan MMEA ni. Nak 4 motherships ... padahal solution depan mata. BM5 dan BM6 RMN auxiliary ships kan ex- MISC commerce vessels.

Dok pening2 pikir baik beli ex commerce vessels from MISC fleet dan buat cosmetic sikit tup tap jadi Coast Guard mothership. Segala macam dapat jimat.
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sebab nak jimat la dorang selalu dapat kapal ex RMN ...lpas tu govt expect MMEA jadi macam navy dengan aset yang tua.

tak salah mereka minta macam ni. sebab mereka rajin mintak macam ni la mereka dapat NGPC dan OPV...kalo tak dapat kedah class ...

tambah dengan govt baru ni yang pompang sembang kencang nak jaga perairan negara, mane la tau dapat 'mothership' tu ke....kalo govt berani kata takde duit,baru la pegi plan B
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jul 17 2019, 10:42 AM)
Kadang aku pelik politician ngan MMEA ni. Nak 4 motherships ... padahal solution depan mata. BM5 dan BM6 RMN auxiliary ships kan ex- MISC commerce vessels.

Dok pening2 pikir baik beli ex commerce vessels from MISC fleet dan buat cosmetic sikit tup tap jadi Coast Guard mothership. Segala macam dapat jimat.
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ko ngan boss aku sekepala eh
MMEA nak sea basing atau forward base aja.

BM5,6 tu mmg the best solution
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Jul 17 2019, 11:09 AM)
sebab nak jimat la dorang selalu dapat kapal ex RMN ...lpas tu govt expect MMEA jadi macam navy dengan aset yang tua.

tak salah mereka minta macam ni. sebab mereka rajin mintak macam ni la mereka dapat NGPC dan OPV...kalo tak dapat kedah class ...

tambah dengan govt baru ni yang pompang sembang kencang nak jaga perairan negara, mane la tau dapat 'mothership' tu ke....kalo govt berani kata takde duit,baru la pegi plan B
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Aku tak cakap MMEA mintak sedekah kat RMN. Sebab recurring problem dapat aset lama hibah RMN ni alkisah bab maintenance nightmare.

Aku cadangkan cara RMN punya solution pasal kekurangan hull untuk maintain ops. Sebabtu RMN guna approach macam BM 5 & BM 6. Pakai commercial vessels ex MISC.

Cer MMEA guna cara tu. Dapat ex-MISC ships dalam tempoh 6 bln - 1 tahun dah boleh operational. Tenggek sebijik kat Beting Patinggi Ali lepas tu tenggek sebijik kat Selat Melaka dan tenggek sebijik kat perairan Terengganu sebagai mobile forward base dan rotate duty roster. Kan solve banyak problem.

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Aku tak cakap MMEA mintak sedekah kat RMN. Sebab recurring problem dapat aset lama hibah RMN ni alkisah bab maintenance nightmare.

Aku cadangkan cara RMN punya solution pasal kekurangan hull untuk maintain ops. Sebabtu RMN guna approach macam BM 5 & BM 6. Pakai commercial vessels ex MISC.

Cer MMEA guna cara tu. Dapat ex-MISC ships dalam tempoh 6 bln - 1 tahun dah boleh operational. Tenggek sebijik kat Beting Patinggi Ali lepas tu tenggek sebijik kat Selat Melaka dan tenggek sebijik kat perairan Terengganu sebagai mobile forward base dan rotate duty roster. Kan solve banyak problem.
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aku tak cakap pun tak boleh pakai idea macam navy tu...

MMEA trying their luck since the new govt keep saying they want to give our serviceman what they need instead what govt want...its a good gamble...if they win,they got new ship with good capabilities and can be use in high tempo. if they lose, they also got ship which still can be use to complete the task at hand.
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ko ngan boss aku sekepala eh
MMEA nak sea basing atau forward base aja.

BM5,6 tu mmg the best solution
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Home minister: We will buy additional assets for the MMEA only if there is a special need

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The Ministry of Home Affairs has informed the government is willing to increase the assets and ships of the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) only if there is a special need to combat the issue of invasion of foreign fishermen.

Its minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin said his agency found that the mobilization of assets and ships by other enforcement and security agencies was seen to be effective enough to address the issue of the intrusion in the meantime.

"The need for bigger assets and big ships is there but I do not think in the near future.

"For the time being, the eradication of foreign encroachment by foreign security agencies and enforcement agencies is quite effective,"
he said when met after the United Nation's (UN) United Leader's Council's Supreme Leader's Council Meeting in Putrajaya yesterday.

He said Ops Naga, which was launched in April, is still in operation with four ministries and seven enforcement and security agencies.

In April, the Cabinet approved the establishment of a special task force with four ministries and seven agencies and security to address the issue of invasion of Vietnamese fishermen in the waters of the country.

The special task force is headed by the Ministry of Home Affairs (KDN) besides participating by the Ministry of Agriculture and Agro-Based Industry (MOA); Ministry of Defense and Foreign Ministry.

Meanwhile, seven enforcement and security agencies involved are the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA); Royal Malaysian Police (PDRM); Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN); Fishery Department; Malaysian Fisheries Development Authority (LKIM); The Immigration Department and the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC).

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 17 2019, 09:32 AM)
None right now though, what stuff we are hearing about right now is probably what the Navy and MMEA will have for the next 5-8 years. The Navy will be busy with the remaining  LCS and LMS while MMEA can look forward to the 3 Damen OPVs and the remaining 3 NGPCs.
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A bit of correction. After further searching , it seems that all 6 of the NGPC is already in service now. They are:

- KM Bagan Datuk (4541)
- KM Tok Bali (4544)
- KM Sri Aman (4542)
- KM Kinabalu (4545)
- KM Kota Belud (4543)
- KM Lahad Datu (4546)

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Home minister: We will buy additional assets for the MMEA only if there is a special need

The Ministry of Home Affairs has informed the government is willing to increase the assets and ships of the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) only if there is a special need to combat the issue of invasion of foreign fishermen.

Its minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin said his agency found that the mobilization of assets and ships by other enforcement and security agencies was seen to be effective enough to address the issue of the intrusion in the meantime.

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MMEA wont ask if it got no need for it...at the end, its the same as always...

and.........if 'special need' come later on what is the alternative???hope next batch of NGPC will announce soon....then the 'special need' come, we got at least next batch vessel to help alleviate the situation...


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kapal dan boat tak cukup bodo..

lagi seronok penjilat prc /k dengar berita ni..
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In case of patrol/observation plane, a lot of coast guards even use small single or twin-engine aircrafts and employ mark 1 eyeball also good enough. Malaysia also have relatively small maritime airspace, so not that long a range is required.

What is important is having an eye in the sky.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 18 2019, 02:47 PM)
In case of patrol/observation plane, a lot of coast guards even use small single or twin-engine aircrafts and employ mark 1 eyeball also good enough. Malaysia also have relatively small maritime airspace, so not that long a range is required.

What is important is having an eye in the sky.

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QUOTE(Strike @ Jul 18 2019, 12:38 PM)
mangkuk ph

kapal dan boat tak cukup bodo..

lagi seronok penjilat prc /k dengar berita ni..
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too early to tell...better wait the RMK or next budget...still got hope...
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Jul 18 2019, 02:58 PM)
Easy to learn and fly also..
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Even single-engine light aircraft can already fly faster, higher and further than any helicopter.

Besides pilot and copilot, 2 guys in the passenger seats with high-powered binoculars (one watching starboard and one watching port) can see around very far already. When install electro-optical gear, the observers can see even much further.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 18 2019, 02:47 PM)

What is important is having an eye in the sky.

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some people here say P-8 or bust, so opinions differ
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jul 18 2019, 03:56 PM)
some people here say P-8 or bust, so opinions differ
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The Navy does perhaps, but coast guard probably don't need such advanced plane like P-8. laugh.gif

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The Navy does perhaps, but coast guard probably don't need such advanced plane like P-8. laugh.gif
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can we afford 2 maritime air forces as well?

it's "only" a few small aircraft but bear in mind, we are struggling to buy 6 helicopters and a few LIFT jets as it is...
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jul 18 2019, 04:15 PM)
can we afford 2 maritime air forces as well?

it's "only" a few small aircraft but bear in mind, we are struggling to buy 6 helicopters and a few LIFT jets as it is...
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A coast guard air unit is hardly what can be called 'maritime air forces'. tongue.gif

You don't need advanced radar and sensors, anti-submarine equipment and any heavy armaments at all. Navy guys need that tech and firepower because their enemies are also powerful. Enforcing fishery/maritime law and chasing lightly-armed pirates & kidnappers hardly need something like a Harpoon anti-ship missile or dozens of sonoboys that cost $3000 USD each.

You can basically buy a few commercial single or twin-engine light planes, paint it in APMM colors, put 2 guys with binoculars in the cabin and you have a basic patrol/visual observation aircraft already. You can get one in the market for as low as RM 1 million only for single engine planes. Maintenance is also easy since its all based on commercial plane.

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If it were that easy, everyone would do it

I think 2 guys with binocs won't be able to spot much
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jul 18 2019, 04:47 PM)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If it were that easy, everyone would do it

I think 2 guys with binocs won't be able to spot much
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Many coast guards do use those kinds of light aircrafts as patrol/observation platforms, usually smaller countries with limited budgets though like New Zealand, The Philippines and some others.

Anyway if you can afford better planes with better equipment by all means get those as they van do the job better, but I guess beggars can't be such choosers.

The single-engine planes may have to use onboard observers, although you can probably install basic electro-optical gear on larger twin-engine aircraft. Then you can get a much larger area that you can observe.



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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 18 2019, 05:51 PM)
Many coast guards do use those kinds of light aircrafts as patrol/observation platforms, usually smaller countries with limited budgets though like New Zealand, The Philippines and some others.

Anyway if you can afford better planes with better equipment by all  means get those as they van do the job better, but I guess beggars can't be such choosers.

The single-engine planes may have to use onboard observers, although you can probably install basic electro-optical gear on larger twin-engine aircraft. Then you can get a much larger area that you can observe.
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Seems NZ don't have them any more due to funding problems sweat.gif the RNZN use P-3 Orions, in future P-8 Poseidon

I'm just saying, I dunno, maybe its more expensive than we think. Operating costs...?

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Japan uses Beechcraft B200T... how many of those do we have?

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 18 2019, 05:51 PM)
although you can probably install basic electro-optical gear on larger twin-engine aircraft. Then you can get a much larger area that you can observe.
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if you have twin engine plane then might as well use on board radar like the tudm's beechcraft
single plane even with optics still limited with line-of-sight and horizon.. worse if got weather problem..
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jul 18 2019, 07:06 PM)
P.S.
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tudm got 3
pdrm got 1-2? with same config

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Jul 18 2019, 07:12 PM)
if you have twin engine plane then might as well use on board radar like the tudm's beechcraft
single plane even with optics still limited with line-of-sight and horizon.. worse if got weather problem..
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That kind if money is no object can la....

We're talking about cash-strapped options here. IMHO any eye in the sky is better than no eye at all.
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jul 18 2019, 07:06 PM)
Seems NZ don't have them any more due to funding problems sweat.gif the RNZN use P-3 Orions, in future P-8 Poseidon

I'm just saying, I dunno, maybe its more expensive than we think. Operating costs...?

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Japan uses Beechcraft B200T... how many of those do we have?
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It seems that the NZ coast guard is actually not a full government body, just a civilian-run government-linked organization with no enforcement powers. All of their assets are sourced either from donations or sponsorships. All their duties are apparently restricted to maritime safety and SAR only.


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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 18 2019, 09:05 PM)
That kind if money is no object can la....

We're talking about cash-strapped options here. IMHO any eye in the sky is better than no eye at all.
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if cash strapped i would just buy more boats biggrin.gif
at least they can go out to the sea to do their job even in severe weather
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Thai soldier killed in parachute jump ahead of wedding

A 29-year-old soldier was killed in a rice field in Lop Buri's Muang district when his parachute failed to open during a practice jump on Monday afternoon.

Army Lieutenant Watcharapong Chantarachat from a Prachuap Khiri Khan infantry unit had jumped from a military airplane at 1.30pm.

His body was found in Ban Tha Deu of tambon Nikhom Sang Tua-eng and was sent to Ananda Mahidol Hospital. Army officers at the scene declined to give comment, explaining a senior officer would later announce details about the incident.

The victim had been studying at the Erawan Military Camp's Special Warfare School and was reportedly going to get married next month, a source said.

https://www.asiaone.com/asia/thai-soldier-k...p-ahead-wedding

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Boeing Defense, Space & Security in Indonesia

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Boeing was awarded the contract to build Apache helicopters for Indonesia in 2015.  Following production and flight testing at the Boeing facility in Mesa, Arizona USA, the AH-64E Apaches for Indonesia were delivered in-country in late 2017 and in the first quarter of 2018. The Apache is the world’s leading multi-role attack helicopter.

Maritime intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities are moving to the forefront in the region and we see opportunities for these capabilities in Indonesia. Our solutions encompass long range maritime reconnaissance capability with our Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) and P-8 aircraft. We've also seen the relevance for CH-47 Chinook to aid in humanitarian assistance and disaster relief, search and rescue and general mobility needs across remote island and ocean territories in the region. Finally, given requirements for long distance operations and situational awareness, we also see opportunities for KC-46 tanker and AEW&C.


https://www.boeing.com/global/boeing-southe...esia/index.page

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Indonesia allocates USD143 million for two naval hydrographic vessels

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Navy International
17 July 2019

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• Indonesia has approved an additional sum of IDR2.04 trillion for the country's 2019 defence budget
• The funds will be allocated towards the procurement of hydrographic survey vessels that can be quickly converted into vessels of opportunity for submarine rescue

The Indonesian Ministry of Finance has approved an additional IDR2.04 trillion (USD143 million) for the country's 2019 defence budget, with a view on accelerating the procurement process for two new hydrographic survey ships that can be swiftly converted into vessels of opportunity (VOO) for submarine rescue operations.

The funds will be added to the country's previously approved 2019 defence budget of IDR108 trillion, according to an official document seen by Jane's on 17 July.


https://www.janes.com/article/89932/indones...graphic-vessels


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if cash strapped i would just buy more boats  biggrin.gif
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Turkey’s ATAK helicopter sale to Pakistan stalled over missing engines - SoL

The sale of Turkish-made T129 ATAK helicopter gunships to Pakistan has hit a stumbling block as no engines have been found for the gunships after the United States failed to issue the permit required for their delivery, communist news site SoL reported on Wednesday.

Turkey and Pakistan signed a $1.5 billion deal for the Turkish-made helicopter gunships on July 13, 2018. The delivery date of the first helicopter was pushed back after the U.S. Department of Defence last year refused to issue the Turkish company with an export license for the delivery of the gunships’ CTS800 engines.

Producers in France and Poland are being considered as potential suppliers of the engine, according to Hürriyet newspaper.

Meanwhile, 41 ATAK helicopters have been delivered to the Turkish Land Forces Command and six to the Gendarmerie General Command, SoL said.

The deal between Ankara and Islamabad sees for the delivery of 30 T129 ATAK helicopters to Pakistan. Pakistan’s current AH-1F Cobra gunships lack the capability to perform adequately over the higher altitudes of the Hindu Kush mountain range, separating Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to the country’s officials.

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Turkey’s ATAK helicopter sale to Pakistan stalled over missing engines - SoL

The sale of Turkish-made T129 ATAK helicopter gunships to Pakistan has hit a stumbling block as no engines have been found for the gunships after the United States failed to issue the permit required for their delivery, communist news site SoL reported on Wednesday.

Turkey and Pakistan signed a $1.5 billion deal for the Turkish-made helicopter gunships on July 13, 2018. The delivery date of the first helicopter was pushed back after the U.S. Department of Defence last year refused to issue the Turkish company with an export license for the delivery of the gunships’ CTS800 engines.

Producers in France and Poland are being considered as potential suppliers of the engine, according to Hürriyet newspaper.

Meanwhile, 41 ATAK helicopters have been delivered to the Turkish Land Forces Command and six to the Gendarmerie General Command, SoL said.

The deal between Ankara and Islamabad sees for the delivery of 30 T129 ATAK helicopters to Pakistan. Pakistan’s current AH-1F Cobra gunships lack the capability to perform adequately over the higher altitudes of the Hindu Kush mountain range, separating Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to the country’s officials.

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Keel Laying Ceremony of 2 units PC-40 Patrol Boats for the Indonesian Navy at PT Caputra Mitra Sejati Shipyard.

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A more detail article. The new hydrographic vessels will be 90 meterrs in length compared to the OCEA 60 meters vessels KRI Rigel-933 & KRI Spica-934.

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Indonesia will buy two 90 meter ocean going hydrographic vessels in near future. The Indonesian Ministry of Finance has approved a budget of IDR2.04 trillion (US$143 million) for the procurement of two new build hydrographic survey ships for the country’s navy.

The vessels will also be designed to be quickly modified for submarine rescue operations as needed.

Delivery of the two vessels is expected within the 2020-2024 timeframe.


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A coast guard air unit is hardly what can be called 'maritime air forces'. tongue.gif

You don't need advanced radar and sensors, anti-submarine equipment and any heavy armaments at all. Navy guys need that tech and firepower because their enemies are also powerful. Enforcing fishery/maritime law and chasing lightly-armed pirates & kidnappers hardly need something like a Harpoon anti-ship missile or dozens of sonoboys that cost $3000 USD each.

You can basically buy a few commercial single or twin-engine light planes, paint it in APMM colors, put 2 guys with binoculars in the cabin and you have a basic patrol/visual observation aircraft already. You can get one in the market for as low as RM 1 million only for single engine planes. Maintenance is also easy since its all based on commercial plane.
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Thai soldier killed in parachute jump ahead of wedding

A 29-year-old soldier was killed in a rice field in Lop Buri's Muang district when his parachute failed to open during a practice jump on Monday afternoon.

Army Lieutenant Watcharapong Chantarachat from a Prachuap Khiri Khan infantry unit had jumped from a military airplane at 1.30pm.

His body was found in Ban Tha Deu of tambon Nikhom Sang Tua-eng and was sent to Ananda Mahidol Hospital. Army officers at the scene declined to give comment, explaining a senior officer would later announce details about the incident.

The victim had been studying at the Erawan Military Camp's Special Warfare School and was reportedly going to get married next month, a source said.

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Rip to the soldier. Just bad luck i guess. Reminded me of one tru crime documentary  in UK where the husband sabotage his wife parachute n yet she managed to survive the fall to testify againts him in trial.
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Thats who packs the chute right? Well thats the husband.
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If got US components then difficult for Turbomecca Makila too.

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Turbomecca Makila is a good option....widely available and have higher average power output too
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If got US components then difficult for Turbomecca Makila too.
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Published : Jul 22, 2019 - 18:21 
Updated : Jul 22, 2019 - 18:21

Indonesia is seeking a reduction of its share of expenses in the fighter jet development project with South Korea, as it is running about 300 billion won ($254 million) in arrears. 

According to Indonesian news reports, Indonesia’s Coordinating Minister for Politics and Security Wiranto reiterated the need to renegotiate the deal for the Korean Fighter Experimental, citing the government’s lack of budget.

Korea and Indonesia have been working together to develop a new fighter jet for the air forces of the two countries since striking an agreement in 2010. Under the arrangement, the $8 billion cost of the project is to be divided between South Korea and Indonesia, with Korea paying 80 percent. 

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Wiranto, however, stressed that Indonesia is not seeking to withdraw from the project, and does not want to “disturb the long-standing friendship with South Korea,” Indonesian news outlet Kompas reported Thursday. 

The country also does not want to lose the opportunity for the technology transfer the program would offer, Wiranto added.

According to South Korea’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration on Monday, Indonesia had paid about 220 billion won of its share of 1.7 trillion won as of Monday. The first deposit was made in 2016. Since paying 132 billion won early this year, there have not been any additional payments from Indonesia, and it is running about 300 billion won in arrears as of July, DAPA said.

While admitting that they have been renegotiating the deal since early this year, the Korean government refused to elaborate on details of their talks. 

“The negotiation between the two countries are ongoing, and the two sides have agreed to keep it closed to the public,” DAPA spokesman Park Jeong-eun said. 

The Indonesian Coordinating Ministry had said it would renegotiate its involvement in the joint project for “lighter” economic commitments, citing its national economic conditions, in a statement in October last year.

“Aside from the financial problem, the development of the fighter jets is going smoothly. We do not see that Indonesia will withdraw from the project,” an official from Korea Aerospace Industries, which is participating in the project, told The Korea Herald. 

According to the official, 32 more Indonesian personnel are set to arrive in Korea in August, adding to the current 80 working here. 

The Critical Design Review meeting is also expected to take place in September, in which the two sides will review the development of the project. It would then lead to building an actual prototype of the fighter jets, the official said.
 

The KFX/IFX project is aimed at producing semi-stealth fighter aircraft of generation 4.5. From the program, the two countries will build 168 units, of which 120 will belong to Korea. 

The warplanes are expected to be equipped with semi-conformal missile launchers, advanced avionics and air-refueling functions. 

The KFX project is South Korea’s second domestic fighter jet development program, first proposed in 2001. 

By Jo He-rim 


http://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190722000809

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Defence Ministry opens tender for the purchase of Fast Interceptor Crafts (FIC) and helicopters for the TLDM

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The Defence Ministry has issued on July 19, open tenders for the purchase of fast interceptor crafts (FIC) and maritime helicopters for the TLDM. As usual only potential bidders will have access to the requirements and other stuff as the ministry do not publish the bid documents publicly as per usual practice.

Hopefully, the 2020 budget will allocate the funds for the maritime helicopters and FIC and their contracts duly signed by early next year with deliveries taking place in 2022.

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Defence Ministry opens tender for the purchase of Fast Interceptor Crafts (FIC) and helicopters for the TLDM

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The Defence Ministry has issued on July 19, open tenders for the purchase of fast interceptor crafts (FIC) and maritime helicopters for the TLDM. As usual only potential bidders will have access to the requirements and other stuff as the ministry do not publish the bid documents publicly as per usual practice.

Hopefully, the 2020 budget will allocate the funds for the maritime helicopters and FIC and their contracts duly signed by early next year with deliveries taking place in 2022.

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us navy seals let going some of their older fast boats... could be a good cost savings option
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PT Pindad received order from the Indonesian Army for 51 units Komodo Nexter. Credit to PT Pindad.

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PM Mahathir Mohamad visits Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) facilities during his visit to Turkey

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Malaysian Prime Minister Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad visited Thursday the facilities of Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) in capital Ankara as part of his official visit to Turkey.

The veteran leader was accompanied by Industry and Technology Minister Mustafa Varank, Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB) head Ismail Demir and TAI General Manager Temel Kotil.

Before the visit, Mahathir met with representatives from Turkish defense companies and a presentation was made regarding possible cooperation opportunities with Malaysia.

On the last leg of the visit, an air show was held for Mahathir using domestically-developed Turkish aircraft T129 ATAK helicopter, Hürkuş-B training aircraft and Anka unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV).

Varank told reporters that there are various fields in which Malaysia and Turkey can cooperate and there are great opportunities in the defense field as well.

Mahathir is scheduled to meet with President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan later in the day, and Varank said cooperation in the defense sector will also be on the table.

Referring to 10 cooperation agreements signed on the sidelines of 2019 Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition (LIMA 2019) in March, Demir expressed his hopes for more concrete steps in defense field.

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we already got gempita from them...hope no more since other things they offer is relatively new...especially that anka UAV

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In 2019 the Indonesian Army is set to receive first batch delivery of four units M3 Amphibious Rig. A total of 18 units have been orederd. Delivery in 5 batches. Sixty Indonesian Army personnels are currently undergoing training in Germany and Czech Republic. Credit to Lembaga Keris.

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Boeing B737 AEW&C Wedgetail & KC-46 Tanker models with TNI-AU Markings. Both models were ordered by Boeing. The Indonesian Ministry Of Defense to start the AEW&C and Tanker acqusition program for the Indonesian Air Force in the 3rd and final Minimum Essential Force (MEF) Program 2020 - 2024. Credit to Sidh/art/a Models.

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Turkish, Malaysian leaders visit UAV manufacturer.

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Royal Navy's HMS Duncan arrives in Bahrain to help UK naval patrols in the Gulf amidst seizure of a British-flagged oil tanker

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The U.K. Royal Navy has dispatched the guided-missile destroyer HMS Duncan to join the frigate HMS Montrose in the Persian Gulf amid heightened tensions in the region, days after the United Kingdom said Iranian boats tried to impede a British merchant tanker from entering the Strait of Hormuz.

HMS Duncan left Portsmouth Naval Base in March for a six-month overseas deployment, mostly focused in the Mediterranean Sea.

The Type 45 destroyer “is deploying to the region to ensure we maintain a continuous maritime security presence while HMS Montrose comes off task for pre-planned maintenance and crew change over,” a U.K. government spokesperson said on Friday, July 12.

Montrose, a Type 23 frigate, is stationed in Bahrain until 2022 to spare other British warships the trip to and from the United Kingdom and ensure a permanent presence in the region.

Duncan’s rotation has been moved forward by a number of days, AFP reported a U.K. government source as saying.

The two ships will temporarily patrol together in the Gulf.

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Royal Navy's HMS Duncan arrives in Bahrain to help UK naval patrols in the Gulf amidst seizure of a British-flagged oil tanker

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The U.K. Royal Navy has dispatched the guided-missile destroyer HMS Duncan to join the frigate HMS Montrose in the Persian Gulf amid heightened tensions in the region, days after the United Kingdom said Iranian boats tried to impede a British merchant tanker from entering the Strait of Hormuz.

HMS Duncan left Portsmouth Naval Base in March for a six-month overseas deployment, mostly focused in the Mediterranean Sea.

The Type 45 destroyer “is deploying to the region to ensure we maintain a continuous maritime security presence while HMS Montrose comes off task for pre-planned maintenance and crew change over,” a U.K. government spokesperson said on Friday, July 12.

Montrose, a Type 23 frigate, is stationed in Bahrain until 2022 to spare other British warships the trip to and from the United Kingdom and ensure a permanent presence in the region.

Duncan’s rotation has been moved forward by a number of days, AFP reported a U.K. government source as saying.

The two ships will temporarily patrol together in the Gulf.

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The Philippine Navy (PN) is observing the Scorpene diesel-electric submarine, made by French defense company, Naval Group, in order to strengthen its submarine force. Although they are evaluating other options such as Russia, Germany and South Korea, PN shows interest on Scorpene class more than the others.

“Yes, the Scorpene is one of the platforms being evaluated by the PN,” Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana told the Philippine News Agency (PNA) Wednesday.

In September, Lorenzana is set to visit five European countries — France, Czech Republic, United Kingdom, Spain, and Portugal — to look into the military equipment they are selling.

Lorenzana said they would look at other diesel-electric submarines in their visit to France.


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The Philippine Air Force (PAF) team has started their training in Jordan for the donated 2 AH-1S Cobra attack helicopters.

“A team from the Philippine Air Force has started their training in Jordan recently in preparation for the upcoming 2 Bell AH-1S Tzefas Cobra attack helicopters donated by Jordan (which in turn are former Israeli units donated to Jordan in 2014),” MaxDefense Philippines said in a social media post.

The Department of Budget and Management (DBM) released the Special Allotment Release Order (SARO) for the transfer of AH-1S Cobra Attack helicopters donated by the Kingdom of Jordan on June 3.


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By Priam Nepomuceno, Philippine News Agency on July 29, 2019

MANILA — For the first time in its history, a Filipino warship, the BRP Davao Del Sur (LD-602), participated in the Russian Navy Day celebrations in Vladisvostok, Russia on Sunday.

Lt. Randy Garbo, Naval Task Group 80.5 public affairs officer, said Filipino sailors and marines also manned the rails of the strategic sealift vessel to render honors to the passing ships of the Russian Pacific Fleet led by its head, Admiral Sergei Avakyants.

He added that the BRP Davao Del Sur, led by Commander Homer Gonzales, was in a fleet review formation along with other participating naval ships. The naval parade is considered as among the highlights of the Russian Navy Day activities.


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Malaysia-Turkey defence cooperation to expand relationship between both defence industries

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UNITED KINGDOM : Malaysia will increase its cooperation with Turkey to further strengthen the country's defense industry, Defense Minister Mohamad Sabu said.

He said Turkey was a country that is admired for its strength in defense and Malaysia would cooperate together to explore the areas involved in improving the defense industry.

"Turkey is already established in the industry, their defense industry is in standard with NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) and through a statement made by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan with Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad on his recent visit to the country, they are willing and ready to work with us, "he said.

He said this to reporters after attending a 'Sirih Return To Gagang' afternoon tea at his school, Bukit Mertajam National Secondary School here on Tuesday.

He said a statement that partnering with Turkey to plan the purchase of equipment suitable for use in Malaysia.

Mohamad Sabu said at this stage the government was likely to look into transports assets and other equipment from the country.

During Mahathir's visit to Turkey, Erdogan welcomed Malaysian companies to invest more in Turkey especially in the defense industry.

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SINGAPORE: The Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) and the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) will conduct a 10-day bilateral exercise that started on Saturday (Jul 27).

Both armies will engage in professional exchanges and tactical training such as rappelling and urban operations training, said the Ministry of Defence (MINDEF) in a news release.

This will culminate in a combined urban raid as part of the final mission exercise, the ministry added.

Called Exercise Cooperation, this year's edition will involve about 240 personnel from the SAF’s 3rd Singapore Division and 1st Commando Battalion, as well as the PLA STCA’s 74th Army Group.

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This is the fourth edition of Exercise Cooperation, which started in 2009. It exercise underscores the warm and friendly bilateral relations between Singapore and China, said MINDEF.


"Besides bilateral exercises, the two armed forces also interact regularly through high-level exchanges, mutual visits, cross-attendance of courses and port calls," it added.

The opening ceremony of the exercise at Jurong Camp was attended by Brigadier-General Frederick Choo, commander of the 3rd Singapore Division, and Major-General Liu Jia, Deputy Political Commissar of the Southern Theater Command Army.

“Exercise Cooperation is one of the cornerstones of our strong bilateral defence ties and defence relations between our two countries,” said BG Choo at the ceremony.

“Besides sharing operational experiences, one key highlight of exercise cooperation has always been the cultural exchange that takes place between our two peoples and the deep friendships that we forge along the way.”

MG Liu added that the exercise will help both militaries “enhance counter-terrorism capability, deepen communication, cooperation and traditional friendship”.

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Maritime tensions with China expected to dominate ASEAN summit to be held in Bangkok this week

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Rising tensions in the South China Sea and the fallout from the U.S.-China trade war are set to dominate talks this week as top diplomats converge in Bangkok for a key Southeast Asia summit.

Chaired this year by Thailand, officials say there will be 27 meetings in all at the ASEAN gathering through Saturday, and 31 countries and alliances will participate.

The meetings come amid accusations from Vietnam and the Philippines that China has become more aggressive in asserting its claims to vast swaths of the South China Sea — a move the U.S. last week termed “bullying behavior.”

China will be looking to further advance a long-anticipated maritime code of conduct with ASEAN — Southeast Asia’s 10-nation bloc — after the two sides agreed to a preliminary draft, an Indonesian official said Monday.

“The South China Sea will be an important agenda item — they will be seeking to curb any further hardening of stance by the Philippines,” said Alexander Neill, an expert on Chinese military affairs at the International Institute for Strategic Studies. “They will likely reiterate their sovereignty over the island and reefs and criticize external interference.”

For China, the meetings will serve as an opportunity to curb growing anxieties from Southeast Asian countries like the Philippines, who accuse them of deploying their Coast Guard and maritime militias to assert control in the South China Sea.

On Friday, China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs stressed that the situation in the South China Sea “has been stabilized in general, with growing momentum for cooperation and increasing positive factors.”

Jose Tavares, director general for ASEAN affairs at Indonesia’s Foreign Ministry, confirmed that while there’s no timeline for negotiations, China and ASEAN did recently finish a preliminary draft on a maritime code of conduct.

“We are envisaging the continuation of the negotiation between ASEAN and China on the single draft, negotiating text of the code of conduct, moving to the next stage,” Tavares said.

The negotiations follow the adoption of an ASEAN Indo-Pacific Concept last month that analysts say is a nod to U.S. concerns. Still, the U.S. State Department has argued that China is mounting pressure on ASEAN to adopt unfavorable terms in the code of conduct. The dispute underscores the region’s difficulty in handling growing tensions between the world’s two superpowers.

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Jul 31 2019, 03:05 PM)
this guy kutuk kaw2 the current PTD( the ptd is former UPNM vice chancellor)..

just look for his tweets.


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is it true?
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jul 31 2019, 02:37 PM)
is it true?
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It's a fake Twitter account.. but, whether all his tweets are true or not, I don't know..
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Jul 31 2019, 03:11 PM)
It's a fake Twitter account.. but, whether all his tweets are true or not, I don't know..
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there is story behind it bro...really long story which have been discuss at malaysiadefense blog before...long story short,the current person is ok la.too early to said more or less.

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PM hints at procurement of second submarine for the RTN

July 30, 2019 

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha hinted today that Thailand may buy another submarine, in addition to the one the Royal Thai Navy bought from China, due for delivery in 2023.

Responding to a reporter’s question as to whether the defence procurement would include a second submarine, General Prayut, who is also the defence minister retorted “Why not? Do you want us to buy just one and that should be enough? How about when one breaks down or is in dock for rotation, then what should we do?”

“We must consider the suitability and necessity,” said the Prime Minister without elaborating.

In order to buy the second submarine, the Royal Thai Navy must first get approval from the cabinet and the procurement will be included in the defence budget, which will be endorsed by parliament.

Earlier, the junta-appointed government under Prime Minister Prayut approved, in principle, the RTN’s plan to purchase three submarines at a total cost of 36 billion baht, to be paid from the national budget spread over 11 years.

In April 2017, the cabinet approved the RTN’s plan to purchase one Yuan Class S26T submarine from China at an estimated 13.5 billion baht.


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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jul 29 2019, 08:20 AM)
Too bad RN also in bad condition

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whole world is drawing down forces since 1980, except China, it's not Cold War any more doh.gif

also it's not fair to put some 2019 ships "in maintenance" as if those ships in other years never masuk maintenance

and most of those 1982 frigates would be classed as OPVs today
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Jul 31 2019, 03:11 PM)
It's a fake Twitter account.. but, whether all his tweets are true or not, I don't know..
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tak sangka hidup lagi bapok tua ni
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Aug 1 2019, 04:35 PM)
nah that's bullshit

whole world is drawing down forces since 1980, except China, it's not Cold War any more doh.gif

also it's not fair to put some 2019 ships "in maintenance" as if those ships in other years never masuk maintenance

and most of those 1982 frigates would be classed as OPVs today
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They still have missiles, so still considered Frigates. OPVs are almost exclusively armed with cannons only.

Also, the oldest Type 23 (Duke-class ) frigates that were built in the 1980s were already sold to Chile (HMS Norfolk, Marlborough & Grafton) in 2006.

The Type 23 frigates that are still in use today by the Royal Navy only dates back to the early 1990s (the earliest, HMS Argyll was commissioned in 1992) long after the Falklands war, so they still pretty modern.

The Type 23 is currently undergoing modernization under a SLEP program starting in 2015, in which the class will receive the SeaCeptor SAM, a Thales 2807 sonar, a BAe systems Artisan 3D radar and a new 4.5 inch gun system. So accusing them of having 'Falklands war-era' technology is utter nonsense.

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Myanmar to receive its first Kilo class submarine from India

July 2019 News Navy Naval Maritime Defense Industry

India is set to hand over Myanmar its first ever submarine, with a Kilo class boat likely to be sent across this year after being refitted indigenously. The INS Sindhuvir will be used by the Myanmar Navy — which is looking at acquiring its own submarine fleet in the coming years — for training purposes.

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A Indian Kilo-class submarine (photo: Diego Quevedo Carmona/los barcos de eugenio)

The Kilo class submarine, bought from Russia in the 1980s, is currently being modernised by the Hindustan Shipyard Limited (HSL) in Vizag with sources saying that work is likely be completed before the end of this year. There have been a series of high level exchanges and meetings between the two nations in recent months, with the Myanmar Commander-in-Chief of Defence Services (CDS) Senior General Min Aung Hlaing currently on an official visit to India.


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First Steel Cutting Ceremony of 2 units KCR-60M for the Indonesian Navy at PT PAL Shipyard. This is the 5th and 6th KCR-60M and will be equipped with European SEWACO. Credit to Kompas & kabarbisnis.

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All crew and passengers are safe with minor injuries.

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PT Dirgantara Indonesia introduced its CN235 FTB (Flying Test Bed) to be use for aircraft development, crew development, training, system development and promotional. In the system development the CN235 FTB will be use for the development of a CN235 Gunship variant. Credit to Airspace Review & PTDI.

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Spot two casts with indonesian names....Heriyanto and Siregar laugh.gif

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 2 2019, 05:07 PM)
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That's some really restricted space for a cannon turret. Can they even do 180° traverse?

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Spot two casts with indonesian names....Heriyanto and Siregar  laugh.gif
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Further update of MMEA OPV

(Courtesy of Marhalim Abas at malaysiandefence.com)

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SHAH ALAM: Further update of the MMEA OPV. As reported previously, the first of class MMEA OPV, built by the THHE Destini JV, is expected to be launched late this year. Work on the three ships are progressing well, I am told, with 54 per cent work already completed.

The target I am told is for the first OPV to be launched late this year at the THHE Pulau Indah Fabrication Yard near Port Klang.

As reported previously, the MMEA OPV is derived from the Damen 1800 OPV design modified to suit MMEA requirements especially in increasing the number of personnel. The crew areas are designed like the Kedah-class fitted with attached bathroom facilities even for junior ratings.

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The extra manpower requirements meant that the hangar capable of storing a medium-twin size helicopter of the original Damen 1800 OPV design will not exist on the MMEA OPV. The ships however retain the helipad for the same helicopter. The OPV is expected to be equipped with a VTOL UAV though a final decision has not been made. The type chosen is expected to be a stand alone system with little integration with the OPV system.

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Aselsan SMASH 30mm RWS

It is armed with a single 30mm RWS and a number of machineguns. A number of water cannons are also fitted around the ship for fire fighting as well as the non-lethal option in certain enforcement scenarios.

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One of the Caterpillar diesel engines of the OPV

The MMEA OPV, designed with high mechanical redundancy, is fitted with four Caterpillar diesel engines, powering two screws; three generator sets and a single emergency generator set. The ship can cruise up to 16 knots with only generator set running.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Aug 5 2019, 09:12 AM)
That's some really restricted space for a cannon turret. Can they even do 180° traverse?
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"A" gun or main gun which situated in front normally designed not to turn till 180. There is mechanical stop to limit the gun operation.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 5 2019, 03:08 PM)
"A" gun or main gun which situated in front normally designed not to turn till 180. There is mechanical stop to limit the gun operation.
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Aiya cannot traverse 180° how to do broadside? laugh.gif

anyway if cannot 180° in ship means the gun cannot rotate fully to the sides loh (hence no broadsides laugh.gif), are you saying main guns can only cover 90° to 120° in front of the ship only? coz I don't think so.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Aug 5 2019, 03:18 PM)
Aiya cannot traverse 180° how to do broadside?  laugh.gif

anyway if cannot 180° in ship means the gun cannot rotate fully to the sides loh (hence no broadsides laugh.gif), are you saying main guns can only cover 90° to 120° in front of the ship only? coz I don't think so.

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Oooo ok2....my mistake. I thought 180 from ahead... then if 180 of course langgar bridge 🤣🤣

Yes can turn to the side....90 deg left or right. A little bit more than 90 depending on the gun system.

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Is this a new clip AV8 Gempita accident with a proton car?

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Is this a new clip AV8 Gempita accident with a proton car?

https://i.imgur.com/vf8CjHK.gif
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yup...somebody already open tered here

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4818506
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Ok thanks.

QUOTE(zacky chan @ Aug 6 2019, 01:47 AM)
yup...somebody already open tered here

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4818506
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Aug 5 2019, 09:12 AM)
That's some really restricted space for a cannon turret. Can they even do 180° traverse?
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The position of the A gun is similar to the Indonesian Navy FPB-57 Class:

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Seems that position of A gun of Fast Attack Craft or Fast Patrol Boats is similar close to the bridge.

RMN KD Gempita:

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Chilean Fast Attack Craft:

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If there's only one gun...less than 180 degrees traverse shouldn't be a big problem...

I'm sure a small boat can change heading quicker than the rate of gun traverse
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Aug 6 2019, 01:37 PM)
If there's only one gun...less than 180 degrees traverse shouldn't be a big problem...

I'm sure a small boat can change heading quicker than the rate of gun traverse
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Well, the turret does look like its located in a recess in the superstructure instead of freestanding. hmm.gif


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compared to this

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Aug 6 2019, 01:37 PM)
If there's only one gun...less than 180 degrees traverse shouldn't be a big problem...

I'm sure a small boat can change heading quicker than the rate of gun traverse
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-90 to +90 la

180 is this laugh.gif

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Aug 6 2019, 02:55 PM)
-90 to +90 la

180 is this laugh.gif

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Aug 6 2019, 09:19 PM)
meanwhile at Mother Russia  laugh.gif

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50 AKs get destroyed in the fire....
while 15000 conveniently find their way into the heads of Russian minorities in Ukraine and Arabs fighting other arabs in the arab world... innocent.gif
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50 AKs get destroyed in the fire....
while 15000 conveniently find their way into the heads of Russian minorities in Ukraine and Arabs fighting other arabs in the arab world...  innocent.gif
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Aug 6 2019, 02:25 PM)
Well, the turret does look like its located in a recess in the superstructure instead of freestanding. hmm.gif
compared to this
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These ships likely use Burevestnik A-220M 57mm cannon...just like the one used by previous KCR-60M boats to replace the 40mm Bofors
It's compact enough....
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there should be enough room for it....this KRI 628, also a KCR-60M still with 40mm Bofors

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Aug 6 2019, 02:55 PM)
-90 to +90 la

180 is this laugh.gif

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I know la.... 90 degree port + 90 degree starboard =180 degrees....it's the same thing
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Airbus helicopters open completion and delivery center in Malaysia with an eye on ASEAN regional market

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Airbus has expanded its rotor operations in Asia with the recent opening of a regional helicopter completion and delivery centre (CDC) at its Subang facility in Malaysia. The new CDC will see Airbus’ new helicopters for customers in the Southeast Asia region being completed in, and delivered from the new centre, consolidating Malaysia’s role as Airbus’ regional hub for helicopter services, customer support and full-flight simulator training.

Malaysia’s Transport Minister Anthony Loke (center) officially opened the regional centre on Tuesday 6 August. Speaking at the ceremony, Raymond Lim, head of Airbus in Malaysia, said: “The move to set up a regional helicopter completion and delivery centre in Malaysia fully demonstrates Airbus’ unwavering commitment to the country’s aerospace industry, in particular the promotion of Malaysia’s growing industrial footprint across all areas of our business. This expansion is part of our growth plan for the region, and will enable us to provide the best possible end-to-end support to our customers in this fast-growing region, backed by our extensive range of helicopter services,” he added.

The new regional helicopter centre can accommodate up to four medium-sized helicopters at any one time. It is capable of assembling and delivering up to 20 helicopters per year from across all its rotorcraft models.

In addition to the new completion and delivery centre, the company has also expanded its full motion full-flight simulation centre with the addition of a Dauphin AS365 N3/N3+ simulator to its existing H225/H225M simulator. With two simulators in place, training of pilots and crew from customers in the military, para-public and civil sectors through the Asia-Pacific region and beyond, can now take place in Malaysia.

Located 25 kilometres from Kuala Lumpur, Airbus Helicopters’ Malaysia facility spans more than 10,000 square metres. The facility can provide a broad spectrum of services from scheduled and unscheduled maintenance, aircraft modifications, aircraft completion and delivery, material management and technical support. Airbus Helicopters has a team of over 100 personnel, supporting operations in Malaysia and the region.

The expansion of the facility at Subang further extends Airbus presence in Malaysia. Airbus is the largest international partner for the Malaysian aerospace industry, with its sourcing and services businesses in the country worth US$400 million annually for the local economy. The company’s activities currently sustain employment for over 4,000 Malaysians in the country’s fast-growing aviation sector.

Malaysian companies supply parts for a wide range of Airbus programmes, including the A320 Family, A330neo, A350 XWB, A380 and A400M. In addition to the regional helicopters centre, Airbus operates a Customer Services Centre at Sepang offering specialised aircraft modification and design services. The company also through its fully-owned Sepang Aircraft Engineering offers maintenance, repair and overhaul for A320 Family and ATR series of aircraft.

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PINDAD DEVELOPING ARMAMENT ABILITY THROUGH TRANSFER OF TECHNOLOGY FROM BELGIUM'S JOHN COCKERILL DEFENCE

PT Pindad (Persero) in collaboration with CMI Defense S.A held a CSE 90 Turret ToT training taking place from 12 June to 21 July 2019 and located in John Cockerill Defense, Belgium.  CSE 90 Turret Training is based on a Cooperation Contract Letter between PT Pindad (Persero) and CMI Defense S.A.  with the number SJAN 13 / P / BD / LN / IV / 2017 dated 19 April 2017. With the technology transfer training, especially in the armament sector, it proves that PT Pindad (Persero) always strives to develop capabilities and create innovative Indonesian defense equipment quality products.

PT Pindad (Persero) sent 6 superior staff who were given responsibility to study the transfer of CSE 90 Turret technology at John Cockerill Defense Belgium, namely;  Gito Suwarno, Febiantara Juanda, A.Md., Rudi Setya Budi, Ginanjar Widhaswara, Dika Wardani, A.Md, Aji Roswaji.  The technology transfer training obtained starts from the assembly of the CSE 90 Turret which consists of 18 stages, integration and finishing of the assembly.

Through this technology transfer training, PT Pindad (Persero) can independently assemble, operate and develop CSE 90 Turrets.  The CSE 90 turret is believed to be the main weapon installed on the Badak Combat Vehicle.  The Badak is a 6x6 wheel combat vehicle made by PT Pindad (Persero).  In addition to the CSE 90 Turret, the Badak is also equipped with a 7.62 mm caliber machine gun, ballistic protection - bulletproof steel plate, and has a 340 HP diesel engine capable of supporting the Badak's cruising range.


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Indonesian Army Kostrad 1st Cavalry Battalion Leopard 2RI MBTs in Baturaja South Sumatera in preparation for the Indonesian Army Inter-Branch Exercise 2019. Credit to Yonkav 1 Kostrad.

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A convoy of 60+ tons Leopard 2RI MBTs crossing a small bridge.

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IMO bridges in SE Asia could not withstand the weight of heavy tanks such as Leopard 2s is just a myth.



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IMO bridges in SE Asia could not withstand the weight of heavy tanks such as Leopard 2s is just a myth.
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Also, when an enemy invades....they will use this road....not off-road....So, just a couple of MBTs, perhaps with a couple more as backup can effectively block this road....especially when positioned near a blind corner
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Aug 8 2019, 07:50 PM)
Also, when an enemy invades....they will use this road....not off-road....So, just a couple of MBTs, perhaps with a couple more as backup can effectively block this road....especially when positioned near a blind corner
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then if enemy strafe from above, the MBTs can help their fellow MBTs get caught in a jam and becoming sitting duck like Iraq's highway to hell biggrin.gif
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Upgrades for Malaysian Army Adnan and MIFV armored vehicles approved for RMK 12

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It appears that the Army proposal to upgrade its Kenderaan Jenis A (KJA-Type A Vehicles – armoured) – the Adnan and MIV – have been approved and will be funded in the next RMK, starting in 2021.

One aim of the upgrade programme is the standardisation of these two variants , basically an M113 armoured vehicle of Turkey and South Korean origins. This will likely reduce the logistical footprint of the vehicles, lowering operational costs as both vehicles to be operated by a single unit.

The programme will be funded in 2021 when the Gempita contract is completed.

I was told that the various configurations for the upgrade are being finalised with various companies offering stand alone and turnkey solutions for the programme.

This will be both a capability and life extension programme as both vehicles will have to serve until 2035.

An open tender is likely to be held for the new capabilities and add-ons as mandated by the programme’s office. It is likely though that Deftech facility in Pekan would be conducting the upgrade work, testing and commissioning of the vehicles. It will not make economic sense, if they want to build a new facility to do a programme that’s likely to cover two RMKs especially with the money allocated for it.

Apart from the Adnan/MIV upgrade, the Army in RMK12 will also embark on another KJA programme but that’s for another day.

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Also, when an enemy invades....they will use this road....not off-road....So, just a couple of MBTs, perhaps with a couple more as backup can effectively block this road....especially when positioned near a blind corner
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then if enemy strafe from above, the MBTs can help their fellow MBTs get caught in a jam and becoming sitting duck like Iraq's highway to hell biggrin.gif
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Or....we the one who has local air superiority,,,making it easier to defend.

But most of the time, air assets won't intervene in these small skirmishes....unless a brigade- or division-sized formations are detected moving on highway or plains

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I think...gun is more reliable...it's actually possible for the enemy to dodge an ATGM when the crews are very alert and laser warning receiver is enabled...because it's slow at around 300 m/s.

During wartime situation, ATGM can be less accurate, because the target is obscured by smoke or it's already night time. Not all ATGM crews have FLIR or NVS sights.

For modern tanks, FLIR or NVS sight is already a standard equipment.

Also, light vehicles is still vulnerable....some stray 50 cal rounds can penetrate the armor....because usually they have only STANAG 3 or less protection
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I think...gun is more reliable...it's actually possible for the enemy to dodge an ATGM when the crews are very alert and laser warning receiver is enabled...because it's slow at around 300 m/s.

During wartime situation, ATGM can be less accurate, because the target is obscured by smoke or it's already night time. Not all ATGM crews have FLIR or NVS sights.

For modern tanks, FLIR or NVS sight is already a standard equipment.

Also, light vehicles is still vulnerable....some stray 50 cal rounds can penetrate the armor....because usually they have only STANAG 3 or less protection
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IIRC nearly all of the big-name ATGM launchers (TOW, Javelin, Kornet, MILAN) have both NV & FLIR. Even older ones have NV at least.


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That's why some forces even use the launchers (sans missiles) as makeshift recon/observation gear. The TOW's FLIR camera can zoom up to 24x, making it an extremely good observation platform in all conditions.


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Upgrades for Malaysian Army Adnan and MIFV armored vehicles approved for RMK 12

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It appears that the Army proposal to upgrade its Kenderaan Jenis A (KJA-Type A Vehicles – armoured) – the Adnan and MIV – have been approved and will be funded in the next RMK, starting in 2021.

One aim of the upgrade programme is the standardisation of these two variants , basically an M113 armoured vehicle of Turkey and South Korean origins. This will likely reduce the logistical footprint of the vehicles, lowering operational costs as both vehicles to be operated by a single unit.

The programme will be funded in 2021 when the Gempita contract is completed.

I was told that the various configurations for the upgrade are being finalised with various companies offering stand alone and turnkey solutions for the programme.

This will be both a capability and life extension programme as both vehicles will have to serve until 2035.

An open tender is likely to be held for the new capabilities and add-ons as mandated by the programme’s office. It is likely though that Deftech facility in Pekan would be conducting the upgrade work, testing and commissioning of the vehicles. It will not make economic sense, if they want to build a new facility to do a programme that’s likely to cover two RMKs especially with the money allocated for it.

Apart from the Adnan/MIV upgrade, the Army in RMK12 will also embark on another KJA programme but that’s for another day.

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The chassis can only take so much weight - 13-14 tons. This is essentially a M113 that from 1960s. So, this probably limite to onboard electronics and perhaps optics.

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Hunter IFV has the armour protection of a low end MBT! It may take a MBT or IFV with a 105mm to take it out. That said; the Hunter could already take out a MBT with Spike LR2 missiles from long range, and since it is networked.


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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 9 2019, 06:31 PM)
Hunter IFV has the armour protection of a low end MBT! It may take a MBT or IFV with a 105mm to take it out. That said; the Hunter could already take out a MBT with Spike LR2 missiles from long range, and since it is networked.
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they brought in namer for a reason...

APS coming soon too..

but most importantly... got aircond!
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IIRC nearly all of the big-name ATGM launchers (TOW, Javelin, Kornet, MILAN) have both NV & FLIR. Even older ones have NV at least.
That's why some forces even use the launchers (sans missiles) as makeshift recon/observation gear.  The TOW's FLIR camera can zoom up to 24x, making it an extremely good observation platform in all conditions.
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OK....let's assume ATGM vehicles have good sights.....then it depends on the strategy

If the defender is willing to relinquish a lot of territory, then hit and run tactic is acceptable.

But, if an area needs to be held at all cost, I think properly positioned MBTs should be better. Even better if there are reserve units for immediate counter attack if a point is captured by the enemy. A common aggressive defensive tactic used by German in WW2
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 9 2019, 04:31 PM)
Hunter IFV has the armour protection of a low end MBT! It may take a MBT or IFV with a 105mm to take it out. That said; the Hunter could already take out a MBT with Spike LR2 missiles from long range, and since it is networked.
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this picture is quite up close
boleh ka?
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this picture is quite up close
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Why not if it was intentional? It was a from one of the NDP 2019 videos.

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they brought in namer for a reason...

APS coming soon too..

but most importantly... got aircond!
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If tanks have been de-sensitized, it wont be too long to hear about the other tank that replaced the Centurions.

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Why not if it was intentional? It was a from one of the NDP 2019 videos.
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Well, from me and my friends thank you for the video
it is quite rare sight to see this sight of any tank/ifv/etc

plus Hunter really do gather special interest for my and my colleague and believe it or not of course we are tad jealous with ST for this gem.
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 10 2019, 12:14 AM)
Well, from me and my friends thank you for the video
it is quite rare sight to see this sight of any tank/ifv/etc

plus Hunter really do gather special interest for my and my colleague and believe it or not of course we are tad jealous with ST for this gem.
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Yes. It is rare for SAF to reveal such things unless it is carefully calibrated to inform potential rivals. I do not know why.

Sg has gone beyond the Hunter IFV. Suffice it to say, they can build an indigenous MBT proper if they would want to.

Recent news show that the next evolution for SG is autonomous IFVs and even tanks. To those who are cognizant about such tech, Sg is light years ahead of the majority of countries in the world. The ramifications are vast - machines will be taking the lead and/or with human operators miles away.

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^ All three equipment minus the Bronco 3 are unmanned.


Hunter AFV replaces Singapore's Ultra M113.


Could Sg's replacement for the Bionix 1 and 2 be both manned and unmanned (very useful in tight urban situations)?



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Yes. It is rare for SAF to reveal such things unless it is carefully calibrated to inform potential rivals. I do not know why.

Sg has gone beyond the Hunter IFV. Suffice it to say, they can build an indigenous MBT proper if they would want to.

Recent news show that the next evolution for SG is autonomous IFVs and even tanks. To those who are cognizant about such tech, Sg is light years ahead of the majority of countries in the world. The ramifications are vast - machines will be taking the lead and/or with human operators miles away.
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if u ask me... autonomous 3 ton truck aka supply delivery vehicle will be next...
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Aug 10 2019, 12:39 AM)
if u ask me... autonomous 3 ton truck aka supply delivery vehicle will be next...
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Looks familiar?

Remember SG's Jaeger UGV which can be armed:

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https://defence-blog.com/army/st-engineerin...nd-vehicle.html

Furthermore, the vehicle tested in SG Menhan's twitter is an autonomous or unmanned Hunter IFV!! SG is probably using it as a test mule. Imagine coming up against a robot IFV - go ahead shoot it..no humans inside.



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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 10 2019, 12:27 AM)
Yes. It is rare for SAF to reveal such things unless it is carefully calibrated to inform potential rivals. I do not know why.

Sg has gone beyond the Hunter IFV. Suffice it to say, they can build an indigenous MBT proper if they would want to.

Recent news show that the next evolution for SG is autonomous IFVs and even tanks. To those who are cognizant about such tech, Sg is light years ahead of the majority of countries in the world. The ramifications are vast - machines will be taking the lead and/or with human operators miles away.
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nah every information is vital for study
not as a rival but it shows the doctrine or based that we could follow suit in our own development
for example I can see a little similarity towards the Isreal IFV armor design

that is useful enough

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babi tu anggota simpanan singopork kot...tu pasai dia dapat close up
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nah every information is vital for study
not as a rival but it shows the doctrine or based that we could follow suit in our own development
for example I can see a little similarity towards the Isreal IFV armor design

that is useful enough
ganaihnya ko kuceng, takut aku hehehehe
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You are making the obvious motherhood statements Atreyu. Western designs of IFVs and tanks share similarities - not all. This is because of similar preceptions of weaknesses and strengths. The Puma, Namer and Hunter share a certain overt physical aspect at face value for instance. All 3 are medium/heavy IFVs.

Malaysia does not have a cohesive and evolutionary ifv or tank development process - the result of feeding too many local jerungs in order to market foreign designs. Licence production boleh la.

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Indonesian National Armed Forces Joint Chief of Staff, Air Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto, declared this week that KRI Alugoro (405) will soon reinforce the Indonesian Navy (TNI AL) fleet.

Xavier Vavasseur  09 Aug 2019

Air Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto made this statement while visiting the submarine at the PT PAL shipyard in Surabaya this week, accompanied by Deputy Navy Chief of Staff (Wakasal) Vice Admiral Wuspo Lukito.

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TNI AL

KRI Alugoro is the third Nagapasa-class submarine (also known as the DSME 1400 design or Improved Chang Bogo-class) and the first one built locally in Indonesia (and the first submarine ever built in South East Asia).

For the record, following an international tender, DSME signed on December 20, 2011 a contract worth $ 1.1 billion to build three DSME 1400 submarines for the Indonesian fleet. They are an evolution of the German Type 209/1200 which was built for the Republic of Korea Navy in the 1980-1990 years (Chang Bogo-class).

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The DSME 1400 project is an upgrade of the built-under-license Type 209/1200 with increased length (up to 61.2 m) and displacement (about 1,400 tons underwater). Under the terms of the contract, the first two boats for Indonesia were to be built by DSME in South Korea with delivery in 2016–2017, and the third submarine was to be built locally (actually assembled from sections) by PT PAL with technical assistance from South Korea with planned completion in 2018.

The first submarine for Indonesia, Nagapasa (403) launch ceremony took place on March 24, 2016. The submarine arrived in Indonesia on August 28, 2017. The second boat Ardadedali (404) was launched in Okpo on October 24, 2016 and transferred to the Indonesian Navy on April 25, 2018, arriving in Indonesia in June 2018. Indonesian state-owned shipbuilder PT PAL launched Alugoro, the first diesel-electric submarine built in Indonesia, on April 11, 2019 in Surabaya.

One day later (April 12), Indonesia signed a US$1.02 billion contract for the procurement of three more 1,400-ton submarines (DSME 1400 type) from DSME.


Read more: https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/0...e-tni-al-fleet/

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You are making the obvious motherhood statements Atreyu. Western designs of IFVs and tanks share similarities - not all. This is because of similar preceptions of weaknesses and strengths. The Puma, Namer and Hunter share a certain overt physical aspect at face value for instance. All 3 are medium/heavy IFVs.

Malaysia does not have a cohesive and evolutionary ifv or tank development process - the result of feeding too many local jerungs in order to market foreign designs. Licence production boleh la.
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lol, I am feeding the information to ones of the jerungs!
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Well, from me and my friends thank you for the video
it is quite rare sight to see this sight of any tank/ifv/etc




SG's Aster 30 SAMP/T snapshot from NDP 2019:

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St Engineering and Milrem beyond visual range or line of sight attack UGV..should add a couple of Spike missiles for good measure.

https://www.monch.com/mpg/news/unmanned/555...combat-ugv.html


MDBA and Milrem also has a anti-tank version:

https://estonianworld.com/technology/milrem...-anti-tank-ugv/
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Oh..I forgot Sg's Stinger attack UAV:

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The Littlest Boy

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For 25 years, during the latter half of the Cold War, the United States actually did deploy man-portable nuclear destruction in the form of the B-54 Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM).

Soldiers from elite Army engineer and Special Forces units, as well as Navy SEALs and select Marines, trained to use the bombs, known as "backpack nukes," on battlefronts from Eastern Europe to Korea to Iran -- part of the U.S. military's effort to ensure the containment and, if necessary, defeat of communist forces.
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To provide options between "red" and "dead," the United States soon embraced the concept of limited nuclear war, championing tactical atomic weapons designed for use in combat. If Warsaw Pact forces ever bolted from East Germany and Czechoslovakia toward Western Europe, the United States could resort to nukes to at least delay the communist advance long enough for reinforcements to arrive. These "small" weapons, many of them more powerful than the nuclear bomb dropped on Hiroshima, would have obliterated any battlefield and irradiated much of the surrounding area. But they provided options.

Cold War strategy was filled with oxymorons like "limited nuclear war," but the backpack nuke was perhaps the most darkly comic manifestation of an age struggling to deal with the all-too-real prospect of Armageddon. The SADM was a case of life imitating satire. After all, much like Slim Pickens1 in the iconic finale of Dr. Strangelove, American soldiers would strap on atomic bombs and jump out of airplanes as part of the opening act of World War III.
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Navy SEALs and Army Special Forces were trained to reach their targets by air, land, and sea. They could parachute behind enemy lines from cargo planes or helicopters.

Teams specializing in scuba missions could swim the bomb to its destination if necessary. (The AEC built an airtight, pressurized case that allowed divers to submerge the bomb to depths of up to 200 feet.) One Special Forces team even trained to ski with the weapon in the Bavarian Alps, though not without some difficulty. "It skied down the mountain; you did not," said Bill Flavin, who commanded a Special Forces SADM team. "If it shifted just a little bit, that was it. You were out of control on the slopes with that thing."

Some men approached for the mission were gung-ho; others were less so.

"Of course everybody would volunteer. That wasn't a problem," said Capt. Davis. "We did it because, hey, it was gee-whiz. It was a neat thing to do, and I wanted to learn about it." But when Green Light team member Ken Richter began interviewing potential candidates, he said, not everyone was as enthusiastic: "I had a lot of people that I interviewed for our team. Once they found out what the mission was, they said, 'No, thanks. I'd rather go back to Vietnam.'"
https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/01/30/the-littlest-boy/
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Need to buy top attack ATGM then
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Malaysia recently bought NLAW.

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http://www.malaysiandefence.com/nlaw-for-the-army/
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600m range

Get some Javelins
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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 10 2019, 08:23 PM)
can pierce mbt top armour? its only overfly top attack, not direct top
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It is not an easy thing to get into position to shoot an atgm at enemy tanks when the opponent gets their tactics right in the first place (infantry, UGV, UAVs, UCAVs, heli/aircraft, etc. that Sg will be deploying) - and a probable suicide mission for the atgm team.

Apart from added armour (certainly for the Leo2SG and Hunter) in times of conflict and jamming, etc., there is also APS.

Singapore purchased Rheimmetal's APS which deals with top attack atgms for its tanks.

Given the Rafael turret (designed to accommodate APS) for its Hunters, SG would be using Trophy-Lite or my take is that it is already bought. This is the latest iteration of the Trophy APS and is by far, the most effective against all manner of atgms. In fact, they are working on enhancing its capability against top attack atgms. Ditto for the Bionix 1/2 IFVs.

https://www.leonardodrs.com/news-and-events...for-us-stryker/

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600m range

Get some Javelins
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bukan dah bocor rahsia dalam Sipri report hari tu ka laugh.gif

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bukan dah bocor rahsia dalam Sipri report hari tu ka  laugh.gif

btw Happy Eid Adha guise!
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It wasn't in any SIPRI but was reported by Shephard News.

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http://www.malaysiandefence.com/shepard-sa...ought-javelins/

I think they confused it with the Javelin SAM.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javelin_(su...to-air_missile)

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It wasn't in any SIPRI but was reported by Shephard News.

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http://www.malaysiandefence.com/shepard-sa...ought-javelins/

I think they confused it with the Javelin SAM.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javelin_(su...to-air_missile)

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Quite an extensive upgrade for the Indonesian Air Force F-16A/B Block 15 OCU through the Falcon STAR-eMLU Program from Angkasa Magazine July 2019 edition article. Some of the upgrade includes IFF Bird Slicer, SNIPER ATP Pod and radar upgraded from APG-66 to the APG-68(V)9.

A screenshot from the Angkasa Magazine with pics of an upgraded TNI-AU F-16 rendering and upgrade works on a F-16 with IFF Bird Slicer. Credit to Cromwell.

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 11 2019, 11:31 AM)
It wasn't in any SIPRI but was reported by Shephard News.

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http://www.malaysiandefence.com/shepard-sa...ought-javelins/

I think they confused it with the Javelin SAM.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javelin_(su...to-air_missile)

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haha silap source lak, tapi dua2 start with S
I know javelin SAM

baru nak syiok sendiri aja
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Bila PRC nak triggered ni?

inb4 SCMP headline: "Malaysia launches missiles in south china sea in show of strength"

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Bila PRC nak triggered ni?

inb4 SCMP headline: "Malaysia launches missiles in south china sea in show of strength"

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Bridges in SE Asia could not withstand the weight of 60+ tons western heavy tanks is just a myth. Video of a 60+ tons Indonesian Army Leopard 2RI MBTs convoy crossing a common Indonesian bridge in Baturaja South Sumatera.


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"neutral" Switzerland invades German principality thrice  laugh.gif
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tajikistan and uganda tank hit each other
then myanmar and uganda (again) tank hit also
uganda tank took myanmar's shooting lane
somehow myanmar got disqualified
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got drama at tank biathlon


tajikistan and uganda tank hit each other
then myanmar and uganda (again) tank hit also
uganda tank took myanmar's shooting lane
somehow myanmar got disqualified
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Indonesian Army Kostrad 1st Cavalry Battalion Leopard 2RI MBTs Inter-Branch Exercise 2019 Martapura South Sumatera.


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Australia to spend $340 million on special forces capability

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the government would spend A$200 billion on defence capabilities over the next decade.

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PUBLISHEDAUG 12, 2019, 1:26 PM SGTUPDATEDAUG 12, 2019, 2:30 PM

SYDNEY (REUTERS) - Australia will spend A$500 million (S$319.7 million) to improve the capability of its special forces troops, the first stage of a US$3 billion (S$4.16 billion), 20-year plan that the government said on Monday (Aug 12) will enable a better response to security threats at home and abroad.

The spending comes after some high-profile security incidents in Sydney and Melbourne in recent years and as Australia seeks to play a more prominent role in the Pacific, where China is seeking greater influence.

"It is in Australia's national interest to have an independent and sovereign Indo-Pacific where all the nations of this part of the world can move freely according to the rule of law, and each of those countries can pursue their interest," Prime Minister Scott Morrison told reporters at the Holsworthy Army base in Sydney.

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Australia said last month it would create a new military unit to train and assist its allies in the Pacific.

Last week, a member of the government likened the West’s attitude to the rise of China to the French response to the World War II advances of Nazi Germany, drawing a rebuke from the Chinese embassy./p>

"It is in Australia’s national interest to have an independent and sovereign Indo-Pacific where all the nations of this part of the world can engage with each other freely, according to international norms and the rule of law," Mr Morrison said.

The government said Australia's spending on defence would reach 2 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP) by the fiscal year ending June 2021 - which US President Donald Trump has said should be the spending goal for Nato alliance members.

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World Bank data showed Australia's military spending at 1.89 per cent of GDP in 2018.

The increased investment - Mr Morrison said on Monday the government would spend A$200 billion on defence capabilities over the next decade - is in line with an objective to focus on the Indo-Pacific region outlined in a Defence White Paper released in 2016.
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Looks like a tank but not a tank.
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Still looked like a tank tho.
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Indonesian soldiers arrested over arms sale to rebels

A spokesperson for Indonesia's military in Papua, Eko Daryanto, said the soldiers are thought to have sold ammunition to an armed group in Timika.

The Jakarta Globe quoted him as saying they were identified by civilians arrested for illegally possessing the arms.

Mr Daryanto said one of the three soldiers was on the run for about two weeks before his arrest on Sunday.

He said one soldier could face the death penalty and the other two life imprisonment.

An Indonesian court sentenced a Polish tourist to five years jail in May for plotting to sell arms to the West Papua Liberation Army.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific...-sale-to-rebels


unfortunately its not the first time or the second time this had happened..
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The U.S. Navy and Coast Guard and the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) began Maritime Training Activity (MTA) Malaysia 2019 during an opening ceremony at Lumut Naval Base, Aug. 14, 2019.

This year’s exercise will feature hundreds of Sailors and Coast Guardsmen from both nations who will come together throughout 5 days of at-sea and onshore training designed to enhance naval interoperability.

Rear Adm. Joey Tynch, commander, Task Force 73, who oversees theater security cooperation for the U.S. Navy in Southeast Asia, said this exercise with Malaysia is another layer to the strong and enduring Navy-to-Navy relationships in the Indo-Pacific. “This is partnership in action,” said Tynch. “The skills and trust built while working together at sea are at the heart of maritime security.”

At-sea, participants will engage in hands-on training in visit, board, search and seizure (VBSS), mobile dive and salvage, a gunnery exercise, maritime patrol operations and Replenishment at-sea. Onshore, there will be subject matter exchanges in aviation, woman’s leadership, damage control, military law, public affairs, and medicine.

U.S. assets participating in MTA Malaysia will feature The Independence-variant littoral combat ship USS Montgomery (LCS 8), U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Stratton (WMSL 752), Safeguard-class salvage ship USNS Salvor (ARS 52), expeditionary fast transport ship USNS Millinocket (T-EPF 3), Mobile Dive and Salvage Unit 1, an MH-60S Seahawk helicopter and a MH-65 Dolphin helicopter. In addition, the U.S. will be supported by the U.S. 7th Fleet Band.

Royal Malaysian Navy assets include Lekiu-class frigate KD Lekiu (F30) and Kasturi-class corvette KD Kasturi (FSG 25), RMN Diving Unit, CB90 fast assault craft, a Super Lynx helicopter and Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) vessel KM Marlin.


As U.S. 7th Fleet's executive agent for theater security cooperation in South and Southeast Asia, Commander, Task Force 73 and Destroyer Squadron 7 conduct advanced planning, organize resources, and directly support the execution of CARAT and other engagements in the region.

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treason of the highest degree..
unfortunately its not the first time or the second time this had happened..
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There are always people like that...many are willing to lose their lives attacking enemy positions...while logistics staff may got corrupt



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The Indonesian Defense Ministry to receive budget increase in 2020 from USD 7.6 Billion in 2019 to USD 8.9 Billion in 2020.

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/20190816...menhan-rp-127-t

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An Indian facility that makes Su-30MKI jets may shut down, toppling 400 local suppliers

An Indian facility that manufactures Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighters may close in March 2020, leading to a domino effect that could see 400 local suppliers shut their shops over a lack of component orders, according to company officials and industry analysts.

A senior executive of India’s state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited said the company, which owns the facility, will complete the production of the remaining eight Su-30MKI fighters on order by March. Then the production facility at Nasik, central India, could shut down if no new orders are placed, the executive warned.

An executive with the industry lobby group Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce & Industry, said 400 local suppliers that build about 6,000 components worth $12.5 million for each Su-30MKI fighter may also shut down if no new orders are placed with HAL.

HAL produces about 12 Su-30MKI multirole fighters each year. The company is expected to complete the delivery of 272 Su-30MKI fighters by March 2020.

Each Su-30MKI is built by HAL for $70.3 million under license by Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation.

Another HAL executive said a formal request has been sent to the Indian Air Force and the Ministry for Defence that they place an additional order for 72 locally made Su-30MKI fighters for about $5 billion, but the government has not yet made a decision.

A senior Air Force official said the service could only order 18 fighters as a response to the number of Su-30MKI jets lost in accidents over the last two decades.

The Air Force is not eager to place large orders of these fighters because of the cost of locally made Su-30MKI jets.

“Each HAL-built Su-30MKI fighter costs around $70.3 million, where as a Russia-supplied fighter costs around $42.15 million,” the senior Air Force official said.

A senior MoD official said that Russia last month tried to pressure the Indian government to order an additional 72 Su-30MKI fighters with HAL, but the Indian Air Force is reluctant to place new orders in such a large number.

“The HAL built Su-30MKI fighter is not fully indigenized, only 51 percent is homemade, where the remaining 49 percent of supplies still comes from Russia,” said Bhim Sigh, a retired wing commander with the Indian Air Force.

Singh noted that most of the raw materials are sourced from Russia, including titanium blocks, forgings, aluminium and steel plates, as well as low-tech items such as nuts, bolts and screws.

HAL continues to depend on Russia as the original equipment manufacturer for components, raw material, servicing and overhaul of the fighters.

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Why building locally doesn't always mean it is cheaper and independent of main supplier:

https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2019/0...ocal-suppliers/

An Indian facility that makes Su-30MKI jets may shut down, toppling 400 local suppliers

An Indian facility that manufactures Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighters may close in March 2020, leading to a domino effect that could see 400 local suppliers shut their shops over a lack of component orders, according to company officials and industry analysts.

A senior executive of India’s state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited said the company, which owns the facility, will complete the production of the remaining eight Su-30MKI fighters on order by March. Then the production facility at Nasik, central India, could shut down if no new orders are placed, the executive warned.

An executive with the industry lobby group Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce & Industry, said 400 local suppliers that build about 6,000 components worth $12.5 million for each Su-30MKI fighter may also shut down if no new orders are placed with HAL.

HAL produces about 12 Su-30MKI multirole fighters each year. The company is expected to complete the delivery of 272 Su-30MKI fighters by March 2020.

Each Su-30MKI is built by HAL for $70.3 million under license by Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation.

Another HAL executive said a formal request has been sent to the Indian Air Force and the Ministry for Defence that they place an additional order for 72 locally made Su-30MKI fighters for about $5 billion, but the government has not yet made a decision.

A senior Air Force official said the service could only order 18 fighters as a response to the number of Su-30MKI jets lost in accidents over the last two decades.

The Air Force is not eager to place large orders of these fighters because of the cost of locally made Su-30MKI jets.

“Each HAL-built Su-30MKI fighter costs around $70.3 million, where as a Russia-supplied fighter costs around $42.15 million,” the senior Air Force official said.

A senior MoD official said that Russia last month tried to pressure the Indian government to order an additional 72 Su-30MKI fighters with HAL, but the Indian Air Force is reluctant to place new orders in such a large number.

“The HAL built Su-30MKI fighter is not fully indigenized, only 51 percent is homemade, where the remaining 49 percent of supplies still comes from Russia,” said Bhim Sigh, a retired wing commander with the Indian Air Force.

Singh noted that most of the raw materials are sourced from Russia, including titanium blocks, forgings, aluminium and steel plates, as well as low-tech items such as nuts, bolts and screws.

HAL continues to depend on Russia as the original equipment manufacturer for components, raw material, servicing and overhaul of the fighters.
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we didn't source some of our sukhoi parts from HAL, did we?
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Why building locally doesn't always mean it is cheaper and independent of main supplier:

https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2019/0...ocal-suppliers/

An Indian facility that makes Su-30MKI jets may shut down, toppling 400 local suppliers

An Indian facility that manufactures Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighters may close in March 2020, leading to a domino effect that could see 400 local suppliers shut their shops over a lack of component orders, according to company officials and industry analysts.

A senior executive of India’s state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited said the company, which owns the facility, will complete the production of the remaining eight Su-30MKI fighters on order by March. Then the production facility at Nasik, central India, could shut down if no new orders are placed, the executive warned.

An executive with the industry lobby group Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce & Industry, said 400 local suppliers that build about 6,000 components worth $12.5 million for each Su-30MKI fighter may also shut down if no new orders are placed with HAL.

HAL produces about 12 Su-30MKI multirole fighters each year. The company is expected to complete the delivery of 272 Su-30MKI fighters by March 2020.

Each Su-30MKI is built by HAL for $70.3 million under license by Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation.

Another HAL executive said a formal request has been sent to the Indian Air Force and the Ministry for Defence that they place an additional order for 72 locally made Su-30MKI fighters for about $5 billion, but the government has not yet made a decision.

A senior Air Force official said the service could only order 18 fighters as a response to the number of Su-30MKI jets lost in accidents over the last two decades.

The Air Force is not eager to place large orders of these fighters because of the cost of locally made Su-30MKI jets.

“Each HAL-built Su-30MKI fighter costs around $70.3 million, where as a Russia-supplied fighter costs around $42.15 million,” the senior Air Force official said.

A senior MoD official said that Russia last month tried to pressure the Indian government to order an additional 72 Su-30MKI fighters with HAL, but the Indian Air Force is reluctant to place new orders in such a large number.

“The HAL built Su-30MKI fighter is not fully indigenized, only 51 percent is homemade, where the remaining 49 percent of supplies still comes from Russia,” said Bhim Sigh, a retired wing commander with the Indian Air Force.

Singh noted that most of the raw materials are sourced from Russia, including titanium blocks, forgings, aluminium and steel plates, as well as low-tech items such as nuts, bolts and screws.

HAL continues to depend on Russia as the original equipment manufacturer for components, raw material, servicing and overhaul of the fighters.
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that would be interesting since that facilities was accused of being under Narendra Modi cronies..people speculate it would get contract easily...but the best one is the cost of MKI which i supposed at that price include Israel avionic right???
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New Bombs and Capabilities on Flankers

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SHAH ALAM: New Bombs and Capabilities on Flankers. A few years ago I wrote that the RMAF wanted to integrate the DRS Technologies ACMI pod on its Sukhoi Su-30MKM Flanker fleet. This was expected as the pods were already integrated on the Mig-29N Fulcrum fleet as well on the Hornets and Hawks. The integration on the fast jet fleet came soon after Aerotree group was contracted to operate a rangeless ACMI system in 2009. Initially the ACMI system was limited to the Kuantan and Butterworth though it appears now that it had been extended to Labuan airbase as well.

Anyhow on a trip Labuan last week to cover the exercise conducted by No 11 Squadron, I spotted a Flanker fitted with the ACMI pod conducting tail slides, TVC turn and Cobra Spike high above the island. Basically the aircraft was performing the same air display routine performed at LIMA and other airshows. I did not realised that the Flanker – tail number 18 – was carrying the ACMI pod until I return home and downloaded the pictures to the computer (below). I have never seen the Flankers with the ACMI pod so this was very interesting development, to say the least.


Read more: http://www.malaysiandefence.com/new-bombs-...es-on-flankers/

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treason of the highest degree..
unfortunately its not the first time or the second time this had happened..
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The Navy’s Formidable-class Frigates, in operation since 2006, will also undergo a mid-life upgrade. This is to ensure their continued relevance and effectiveness, particularly in anti-submarine and anti-air-defence capabilities


source:
https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/govt-...next-few-months

*Note: Singapore has already decided on replacing its F16s and F5 S/Ts with up to 100 F35s (according to US F35 programme office).



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Current weaponry and systems (note: multiple decoy systems i.e. New Generation Dagaie System, 2 × forward & 1 × aft.
Leonardo Finmeccanica Morpheus anti-torpedo suite with WASS C310 launchers, 2 x aft)

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Possible upgrades:

1) Swap Aster 15 missiles with the incoming VL MICA NG quad-packed (should be around 35km of range) which will replace VL MICA. This would mean that the frigates can carry up 32 VL MICA NG and 24 Aster 30 missiles. Alternatives to Aster 15 include ESSM Blk2 with active seeker, CAMM-ER quad-packed, etc.
2) Upgraded Herakles radar (please see my post below on improvements to the Herakles). The current range of Herakles is >250km. The range of the upgraded Herakles is in excess of 300km. But I am not sure if RSN is already using the upgraded Herakles.
3) Change Herakles to Sea-fire (Herakles successor) fixed array radar (300km-500km range) depending on variant. Singapore's new MRCV frigates/destroyers will get such a radar (P.S: I do not think RSN will opt for SPY-radars and Aegis system)
4) New SSM to replace harpoons. It has been said online that this has already happened and that it is a variant of the Gabrial missile. If you look at the Israeli navy, they are replacing their harpoons with the new Gabriel "X" missile. As shared here: http://kaspex.kz/en/rynok-vooruzhenij/812-...es-gabriel.html , this latest variant has range of up to 400km and supersonic. We shall see.
As the new Gabriel launchers approximates the size of the Harpoon launchers, the upgraded Formidable will still carry up to 24 SSMs or surface to surface missiles.
5) Possible - Structural changes - e.g. slighty longer Formidable to accomodate a USV and/or UAV. Of course, ST Marine has the capability to do this.
6) Others - better CIWS? This may not be necessary as it is already carrying a "shitload" of anti-air missiles.

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Kudos to the designers of the Formidable. Until today, the design remains relevant and in fact it is more stealthy than many of the newer ships coming online. When it comes to weaponry, she is like a mini destroyer.

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Information on upgraded Herakles:

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https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/f...rench-navy.html


^ Also, some tidbit on the successful firing of the Aster 30 missile from the Formidable class:

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NR: Will this "boosted" HERAKLES be a limiting factor relative to the capacity of Aster 30 missiles? In other words, in case of interception, will the FREDA + Herakles + Aster 30 combination have the same capabilities as the Horizon + Smart L+ Aster 30 combination ?
TRE: The Horizon frigates are equipped with SMART-L radar and EMPAR. Aster 30 firing tests (with French and foreign navies) showed that Herakles was very effective in its current configurations.


Only 2 countries-navies use Herakles: France and Singapore.

Both types of Aster missiles are effective against high speed supersonic missiles too - https://www.mbda-systems.com/?action=force-...chment_id=17402
E.g.
https://navaltoday.com/2019/05/21/canada-fr...l-off-scotland/

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Taiwan's F16V:

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Singapore is currently upgrading its 60-70 F16 Blk 50/52+ plus to F16V standards. This is supposed to be a stop-gap measure until the F35s are operationalized so RSAF will likely be operating a mix of F15SG, F16V and F35 2020 onwards to early 2030.

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/singa...lock-52-upgrade

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millions dead, trillions spent, back to sq 1... lol


Trump hails 'very good' discussions with the Taliban

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Mohammad Nabi Omari (left) and Khairullah Khairkhwa (right), members of the Taliban who were former prisoners held by the US at Guantanamo Bay and reportedly released in 2014 in a prisoner exchange, attend the Intra Afghan Dialogue talks in Doha on Jul 8, 2019. (KARIM JAAFAR/AFP)
19 Aug 2019 07:08AM


WASHINGTON: US President Donald Trump on Sunday (Aug 18) hailed progress in negotiations on an Afghanistan peace deal, saying that talks with both the Taliban and the Afghan government are going well.

But while Trump said the United States has things "under control," a massive bombing in Kabul highlighted the rampant violence still plaguing Afghanistan and the major challenges it would face even if an agreement is reached.

"We're having very good discussions with the Taliban. We're having very good discussions with the Afghan government," Trump told reporters.

Expectations are rising for a deal in which the United States would start withdrawing its soldiers from Afghanistan after nearly two decades of war that has ground into a stalemate.

"We've really got it down to probably 13,000 people and we'll be bringing it down a little bit more and then we'll decide whether or not we'll be staying longer or not," Trump said.

"We have things under control very well with the small force. We can probably make it a little bit smaller and then we'll decide," he said, adding: "It'll depend on the Taliban, it'll depend on the Afghan government."

A US-Taliban agreement would not by itself bring an end to Afghanistan's war, as the insurgents would still need to make a deal with the Washington-backed government in Kabul.

BOMBING HIGHLIGHTS CHALLENGES

Trump reiterated on Sunday that the United States would maintain an intelligence presence in the country even if it withdraws troops, in order to guard against potential militant threats.

"I think it's very important that we continue intelligence there in all cases, because it is somewhat of a nest for hitting us," the president said.

Washington is keen to end its involvement in Afghanistan, where it has spent more than $1 trillion and Trump has said since the start of his presidency that he wants troops out.

In return, the Taliban would commit to various security guarantees, including that the Islamist hardliners who long harbored Al-Qaeda would not allow Afghanistan to become a jihadist safe haven - but any such promise would be tough to keep.

On Saturday, a bombing at a packed Afghan wedding hall killed at least 63 people, underscoring both the inadequacy of Afghanistan's security forces and the massive challenges they face.

The Islamic State group claimed the attack, saying that one of its fighters blew himself up at a "large gathering" in Kabul while others "detonated a parked explosives-laden vehicle" when security forces arrived.

While the police and army claim they prevent most bombings from ever happening, insurgents pull off horrific attacks with chilling regularity.

And even as Trump claimed progress in talks, little has changed for Afghans on the ground.

A UN tally found last year was the deadliest on record, with at least 3,804 civilian deaths caused by the war - including 927 children.

And according to the UN's Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), more than 217,000 people had to flee their homes because of fighting during the first seven months of 2019, prompting a huge need for humanitarian aid across the war-torn nation.

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Jayapura, Papua (ANTARA) - Private 1 Sirwandi of the Indonesian Defense Forces (TNI), who was shot in his chest and stomach by armed separatists in Papua, succumbed to his wounds while being treated in Wamena Public Hospital, Jayawijaya District, Papua Province, on Saturday evening.

Sirwandi, an officer of the Indonesian Military's Infantry Battalion (Yonif) of RK751/VJS, was shot in Trans Wamena-Habema, Jayawijaya, Papua Province, on Friday at around 3:30 p.m. local time by members of separatist group led by Egianus Kogoya.

The fallen soldier's remains would be returned to his hometown in Lombok, West Nusa Tenggara (NTB), Lt Col Eko Daryanto, spokesman of the Regional Military Command (Kodam) XVII/Cenderawasih, said here on Sunday.

He had undergone two surgeries at the ICU room of the Wamena Hospital before he succumbed to his wounds.

Sirwandi joined a military vehicle convoy carrying logistics of his battalion, when suddenly separatists ambushed them from left and right sides of Trans Wamena road.

Twelve military officers who guarded the convoyed, got out of the cars and fired back. The shootout lasted around 20 minutes and the separatists ran away.

During the shootout, two military officers were injured, namely Private Panji, who was shot in his left hand, and Sirwandi who was wounded in his chest, stomach and thigh.

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Chinese missiles likely to cripple Asia-based US forces in event of conflict: report

Report by Australian researchers urged US allies such as Australia and Japan to revamp investment to prevent US military might from being eroded in the region
The report also detailed the prowess of the PLA Rocket Force, which is capable of making precision strikes as far from the mainland as Singapore

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Chinese missiles likely to cripple Asia-based US forces in event of conflict: report

Report by Australian researchers urged US allies such as Australia and Japan to revamp investment to prevent US military might from being eroded in the region
The report also detailed the prowess of the PLA Rocket Force, which is capable of making precision strikes as far from the mainland as Singapore

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Interestingly, Sg's Aster 30 Blk 1 has the ability to shoot down intermediate ballistic missiles up to 600km in range.

A new upgrade called Aster 30 Blk 1 NT (same missile as Aster 30 Blk 1) which is coming online 2020-22, can shoot down intermediate ballistic missles up to 1500km in range. It is unknown if Sg has placed orders for this latest variant.



Aster 30 Blk 2 is a totally new missile (similar to US Thaad) designed to shoot inter-continental ballistic missiles (10,000km in range) is currently in development and will be launched from the current Aster 30 SAMP/T launchers so countries which invest in Aster 30 need only buy the new missile. They can also be launched from the current A50 Sylver launchers - i.e. theoretically it can be carried by the Formidables. But this is unlikely. When Sg announces the mid-life upgrade, it invariably means Sg is already planning for the Formidable's replacement. wink.gif

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“The ASTER-30 Missile System is the latest air defence system in the RSAF and it is an all-weather, next generation medium-range surface-to-air missile system,” said 2nd Warrant Officer Eu Wei Lek, an Air Defence Systems Specialist from 163 Squadron.

The Team Lead for The Republic of Singapore Air Force Mobile Column Packet added: “The beauty of the ASTER-30 Missile System is that it is supported by a wide range of sensors. In the unlikely case of one sensor shutting down, air defence operators will still be able to carry out their missions smoothly.

“I feel very proud to be able to showcase our RSAF assets,” said the 43-year-old.

Source: Sg Mindef

Note: RSAF is not using the MBDA Arable MFC radar for its ground based Aster 30 SAMP/T system (RSN Aster missiles uses Herakles). Instead, RSAF uses a mix of current sensors and radars. This means that you cannot shut it down by taking out any radar. Pretty smart. Even RSN's Formidables can leverage on inputs from RSAF's AEW&C (or AWACs in common parlance) sensors or other ships, aircrafts, UAVs, USVs, etc. This is the beauty of a networked battle management system.

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Locally made Belrex (by ST Engineering) and in used by SAF.

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This is one fine detailing scale model of Philippine Navy LPD BRP Tarlac-601 built by Allan Agati.



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Chinese missiles likely to cripple Asia-based US forces in event of conflict: report

Report by Australian researchers urged US allies such as Australia and Japan to revamp investment to prevent US military might from being eroded in the region
The report also detailed the prowess of the PLA Rocket Force, which is capable of making precision strikes as far from the mainland as Singapore

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if it did happen means aegis system in japan and 'whatever' air defense in korea plus taiwan early detection radar was penetrable which is absurd...
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Aegis is a combat system and a good one. If you are referring to ships equipped with missiles like SM-3 with the capability to shoot down ballistic missiles, there may not be sufficient ships. They are probably enough to protect mainland USA.

South Korea and Japan would need to invest in SM-3. They already have ships capable of deploying these missiles. So going-foward, the only East Asian countries capable of some sort of ABM defence would be South Korea, Japan and Singapore (Aster missiles). Not Taiwan - no one will sell them Aster 30s or SM-3 missiles.

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ST Engineering's AgilLOC Antenna Element Compact (AgilLOC AEC):


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It an integrated anti-jam antenna system which can nullify the interference of Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS) signals. It provides protection against multi-jamming environments.

What are GNSS signals? This refers to GPS, GLONASS, Galileo or BeiDou systems used in many applications.

The military ramifications are obvious. No need to explain...


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no way....they just want to pursue more procurement only  laugh.gif

if it did happen means aegis system in japan and 'whatever' air defense in korea plus taiwan early detection radar was penetrable which is absurd...
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PLA rocket force is not to be laughed at

Yes they have SM-3 but how many SM-3 do they have versus how many PLA ballistic missiles?
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PLA rocket force is not to be laughed at

Yes they have SM-3 but how many SM-3 do they have versus how many PLA ballistic missiles?
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i never said it was a low threat....but with that many base all across japan,taiwan and korea plus the radar and maritime asset,in order for adversary to have successful initial attack is to attack simultaneously imo...and that is really high bar to accomplished and even if it accomplished toward that, attacking US base is daring feat at least......
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i never said it was a low threat....but with that many base all across japan,taiwan and korea plus the radar and maritime asset,in order for adversary to have successful initial attack is to attack simultaneously imo...and that is really high bar to accomplished and even if it accomplished toward that, attacking US base is daring  feat at least......
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saying it not happening would be mistake tho...just like you favorite popstar used to sing

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its more like "you touch one of mine, i will fuck you in all possible way imaginable"...with its asset all around plus all intelligence now toward only nation,any china move is within the view...its either they fast or slow only
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“The ASTER-30 Missile System is the latest air defence system in the RSAF and it is an all-weather, next generation medium-range surface-to-air missile system,” said 2nd Warrant Officer Eu Wei Lek, an Air Defence Systems Specialist from 163 Squadron.

The Team Lead for The Republic of Singapore Air Force Mobile Column Packet added: “The beauty of the ASTER-30 Missile System is that it is supported by a wide range of sensors. In the unlikely case of one sensor shutting down, air defence operators will still be able to carry out their missions smoothly.

“I feel very proud to be able to showcase our RSAF assets,” said the 43-year-old.

Source: Sg Mindef

Note: RSAF is not using the MBDA Arable MFC radar for its ground based Aster 30 SAMP/T system (RSN Aster missiles uses Herakles). Instead, RSAF uses a mix of current sensors and radars. This means that you cannot shut it down by taking out any radar. Pretty smart. Even RSN's Formidables can leverage on inputs from RSAF's AEW&C (or AWACs in common parlance) sensors or other ships, aircrafts, UAVs, USVs, etc. This is the beauty of a networked battle management system.
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Aegis is a combat system and a good one. If you are referring to ships equipped with missiles like SM-3 with the capability to shoot down ballistic missiles, there may not be sufficient ships. They are probably enough to protect mainland USA.

South Korea and Japan would need to invest in SM-3. They already have ships capable of deploying these missiles. So going-foward, the only East Asian countries capable of some sort of ABM defence would be South Korea, Japan and Singapore (Aster missiles). Not Taiwan - no one will sell them Aster 30s or SM-3 missiles.
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It only applied in normal situation. US only sell limited numbers due to protect its secret and dont want make china doing crazy thing, besides that many developing countries put their money heavily more on others than military items.
US will always put china on watch list forever, US need everyone to join if shit happened. And everyone will put their money to buy any US or Russia equipments in bulk. US/Russia Military factory will become giant factory in short time.
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Indonesia is one example nation that US need if china going crazy. With GDP US $ 1 Trillion abundant man power, it would give US a hand needed. US will sell anything , US will take the money, and win the war...and everything back to 101. US will survive and others will destroyed. That's why even Australia reject to be a US missile base in Asia.
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Do not be ridiculous. Most if not all countries will not want to take sides and kill their economies.

In fact, many countries do not have any territorial disputes with China e.g. Singapore, Thailand, etc. It does not make sense for them to get in a war.

And many countries want China to integrate peacefully with the region and become a benign and responsible power.

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And China will not want to sacrifice years of growth by getting in a war.

Militarily, China has not yet reach the level of the US. Globally, the US is a hyperpower. China isnt. It is not even a superpower (it cannot deploy massively in a war, say, the middle east). The US can. The middle powers in Asia are India, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Taiwan and Singapore in terms of military, influence and technology. I wont bother about the rest as they are essentially developing countries in various states of growth for which I am certain will get stuck in a middle income trap with the reason being that they are not competitive (even now) when compared to the aforementioned middle powers. Some even have 3rd world insurgencies with regions threatening to break away. Many buy stuffs with massive loans. Not impressive at all.

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Many countries operate BV 206 which will need to be replaced. ST Engineering in offering its latest Bronco 3 all terrain articulated carrier. Bronco 3 is slated to replace Singapore's current Bronco:



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RUSSIAN SU-35 INTERCEPTED TURKISH F-16S THAT ENTERED SYRIAN AIRSPACE IN ATTEMPT TO PREVENT ADVANCE ON KHAN SHAYKHUN

Turkish F-16 were intercepted and fled from Russian Su-35 in the air above Syria, Avio Pro reported.

The Turkish Air Force fighter jets were alerted and sent to the southern part of the Syrian province of Idlib after the Syrian Air Force struck a Turkish military convoy moving to rescue terrorists controlling the town of Khan Shaykhun.

However, according to reports, two Russian Su-35 fighter jets were scrambled from the Khmeimim air base to intercept them. The Russian pilots were able to drive Turkish combat aircraft out of the Syrian space in just a few minutes.

There are no other details that have been released. But reportedly, the Turkish fighter jets were forced to leave Syrian airspace after only 30-40 kilometers, which indicates that they either were warned in advance, or just simply saw the Russian aircraft on their radars.

Later on, a pair of Russian Su-35 fighters was spotted directly in the vicinity of the city of Khan Shaykhun.

Experts do not exclude that Turkey will take all measures in the near future to strike at the positions of the Syrian military near Khan Shaykhun, since otherwise an observation post of the Turkish military, and terrorist groups allied with Turkey-backed militants will be encircled

https://southfront.org/russian-su-35-interc...-khan-shaykhun/
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i never said it was a low threat....but with that many base all across japan,taiwan and korea plus the radar and maritime asset,in order for adversary to have successful initial attack is to attack simultaneously imo...and that is really high bar to accomplished and even if it accomplished toward that, attacking US base is daring  feat at least......
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PLA Rocket Force is estimated to have about 2,000 total ballistic missiles from SRBMs to ICBMs

As far as I can tell from announced contracts, SM-3 production from block 1a to 2b numbers at most 700

Of course there's also THAAD, Patriot and SM-6 for terminal defence, but there's not a lot of launchers for those either

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The middle powers in Asia are India, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Taiwan and Singapore

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An outlier. They cant count themselves as a high income nation. On the other hand, they do have nukes and a degree of tech (supported by external partners). Large influence. And nukes. They are not as competitive as China with a less capable military.

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I cancel to reply and laugh when read this. But, I understand when someone want to highlight his nation.
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I cancel to reply and laugh when read this. But, I understand when someone want to highlight his nation.
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Funny thing is he/she claimed to be a Malaysian. How could a Malaysian be so prolific in posting anything and everything about Singapore even defending Singapore side in the Tuas thread.

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At least 300 troops arrive in Manokwari as protests spread with reports of a prison break and airport attack in Sorong.

Jakarta, Indonesia - Indonesia has deployed more troops to West Papua as demonstrations calling for the region's independence spread.

Government buildings have been torched and reports of unrest belie earlier assurances by the government that the unrest had been contained.

President Joko Widodo's chief security minister, Wiranto, told reporters on Tuesday that Jakarta is deploying more forces to West Papua in anticipation of larger protests on Wednesday across the region.

Video obtained by Al Jazeera showed hundreds of military and police personnel arriving in Manokwari, capital of West Papua province and the scene of violent protests on Monday, while Major General Sisriadi, spokesman for Indonesia's armed forces, told Al Jazeera on Wednesday the military had sent 300 troops to Manokwari.

West Papua comprises the West Papua and Papua provinces and shares an island with Papua New Guinea.

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Funny thing is he/she claimed to be a Malaysian. How could a Malaysian be so prolific in posting anything and everything about Singapore even defending Singapore side in the Tuas thread.
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Oh stop being personal and getting butthurt. You are free to post Indonesian articles. I never claimed anything but i am avid follower of the latest military trends. I never found indonesian purchases interesting or outstanding.

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High handed. There could be humanitarian abuses by Indonesian govt forces.

What is needed is dialogue.

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BAE Systems 57mm gun systems selected for Indonesian Navy’s fast attack craft

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The Indonesian Navy has selected BAE Systems’ Bofors 57 Mk3 naval gun system for the country’s KCR-60 fast-attack vessel program.

The initial contracts with government-owned shipbuilder PT PAL Indonesia include four 57 Mk3 gun systems.

The Bofors 57mm naval gun is designed to address surface, air, and land threats in the littoral environment, and is already in service with a wide range of navies and coast guards, including those of the United States, Canada, Sweden, Finland and Mexico.

“This most recent contract with PT PAL Indonesia signifies the nation’s continued trust that BAE Systems naval guns consistently meet quality requirements and capability needs,” said Ulf Einefors, director of Weapon Systems Sweden at BAE Systems.

With a length of 60 meters, the KCR-60 was designed to quickly deploy guided anti-ship missiles against surface combatants and then rapidly and safely withdraw into the region’s archipelagos. Three KCR-60 vessels are currently in service with the Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL, with a fourth ship scheduled to be operational in 2021.

Two of the new 57 Mk3 systems will be for two KCR-60 vessels currently under construction, while the remaining two guns will be integrated onto two existing KCR-60 ships. The gun systems will be produced at BAE Systems facilities in Karlskoga, Sweden. The first unit is scheduled for delivery in 2020 and the final unit in 2021.


https://www.baesystems.com/en-us/article/ba...st-attack-craft

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Even if West Papua gets independent...they could become another PNG or Timor Leste. Australia and US will steal the resources, like what Australia doing in Timor Leste.

West Papua is heavily subsidized, getting $7bn each year from the government...while the government get $2bn at most from resources from Papua
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Aeralis develops sixth-generation ready military trainer aircraft

By Talal Husseini

UK aircraft manufacturer Aeralis is developing a new kind of military trainer aircraft that will be compatible with advanced systems likely to be found in sixth-generation fighter jets.

The Aeralis military trainer aircraft will enable sixth-generation trainee pilots to put the skills they have learned in the classroom and through flight simulators into action including in challenging environments such as poor weather conditions or over difficult terrain.

One of the major features of sixth-generation aircraft, according to Aeralis, is the level of interoperability between the pilot and the aircraft itself. To this end, the Aeralis military trainer aircraft will help the trainee pilot to receive, interpret and report information while conducting live flying exercises.

Aeralis strategy director Tim Davies said:  “Whilst concepts and designs for the next generation of combat aircraft are still being formulated, debated and tested, the Aeralis training system is leading the way in putting the pilot first and maximising his or her ability to fly and operate increasingly complex aircraft in preparation for the next evolution in combat aircraft system design.”

The trainer aircraft will also incorporate in-cockpit sensors that can track key metrics including eye movement and stress level indicators in order to monitor an individual trainee pilot’s progression and readiness.

Furthermore, the data that the Aeralis military trainer aircraft collects can be used to create an anonymous database of information on all trainee pilots, which the company says will significantly improve the efficiency of the future aviation training programmes, while helping to reduce costs overall.


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Indonesian Government Proposes 16 Percent Defense Spending Increase for 2020

August 21, 2019 - by Daniel Darling

The Indonesian government of President Joko Widodo has proposed a 3 percent increase to the national budget for 2020, with defense earmarked for a boost of 16% percent in year-on-year nominal investment. The defense budget – currently receiving an outlay of IDR109.6 trillion ($7.68 billion) – is set to rise to IDR127.4 billion ($8.9 billion) under the government proposal and will equal 5 percent of total spending.

Currently, Indonesia’s defense budget accounts for roughly 4.3 percent of total governmental expenditure.

The latest budgetary proposal follows Joko Widodo’s re-election in April and is based upon an economic growth target of 5.3 percent for next year. That would match the government target for the current year, which appears to be slightly optimistic in light of falling prices for key Indonesian export commodities such as palm oil.


Read more: https://dsm.forecastinternational.com/wordp...rease-for-2020/


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Nice......US$1.3B addition.
SG defence budget should increase at least US$ 2 B to maintain kiasuness.

MY defence budget 2019 is US$ 3,4 B. That's not right, indonesia defence budget addition 38% of MY defence budget 2019. MY defence budget should be US$5 B at least.
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The Indonesian Army & US Army conducted live firing test of their Javelin ATGMs during Exercise Garuda Shield 2019.



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Video of Indonesian Army Aviation AH-64E Apache Guardian live firing Hellfire Missile.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1irTfHBCPU/

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Video of Indonesian Army Aviation AH-64E Apache Guardian live firing Hellfire Missile.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1irTfHBCPU/
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Still no video of Mi-35P firing Ataka, right?
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Still no video of Mi-35P firing Ataka, right?
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Philippines to buy two new corvettes from South Korea

By: Frances Mangosing - Reporter / @FMangosingINQ
INQUIRER.net / 11:58 AM August 23, 2019

MANILA, Philippines — The Philippines is planning to purchase two brand new corvettes from South Korea, as it seeks to boost the Philippine Navy’s capabilities in the face of China’s creeping expansion in the South China Sea.

Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana made the announcement during the welcome ceremony for the Navy’s newly-acquired ship, BRP Conrado Yap (PS-39), a former Pohang-class vessel that served the Republic of Korea Navy for 30 years.

“We are again ordering two corvettes, also to be made by Hyundai,” he said in his speech at the event held at Manila South Harbor early this week. 

Lorenzana was referring to South Korea’s Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), one of the world’s largest shipbuilders. It is currently constructing the Navy’s two missile-capable frigates set to be delivered by 2020 and 2021. 

“The Navy has recommended that HHI also builds its two corvettes for compatibility of systems and weapons inasmuch as it’s already building our two frigates,” Lorenzana told Inquirer.net in a separate message.


Read more: https://globalnation.inquirer.net/179257/ph...rom-south-korea

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I do not think this is incidental. Military observers who are bean counters will know.

Singapore has been increasing the number of HIMARs bought - like the F15SG and various F16s, these are done via direct sales.


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Serial no. 65 HIMARs seen (perhaps for the 1st time)

If you look at the video closely, the other serial numbers i.e. 60 series and above (only serial <60 were seen) were blurred out:

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Other/some HIMARs serial spotted and photo-taken:


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What this means is that Singapore has at least 25 HIMARs. The real number is likely more. My guess is between 36-56. 56-80 is the number of artillery pieces SAF has for the various artillery units e.g. FH-2000, Pegasus, etc.

DSCA previously reported 18 were bought in 2007 and 88 pods/launchers (lorries were not were not mentioned) bought in 2013:

https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/singap...rtillery-03807/

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Info on Singapore's HIMARs:

SG uses GMRLS rockets. The GMRLS rockets are guided and have been successfully tested out to 92km (manufacturer claims >70km):

https://www.microwavejournal.com/articles/8...distance-record


GMRLS rockets will be replaced by GMRLS Blk 2 or GMRLS-ER with 150km range from 2020 onwards:

https://www.janes.com/article/83720/ausa-20...ht-for-mid-2019

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Joint Apache Live Fire Range at Garuda Shield

INDONESIA
08.24.2019
Photo by Maj. Leah Ganoni 
U.S. Army Pacific Public Affairs Office  

Apache helicopters from both US Army Task Force Tiger Shark, the aviation unit for US Army Task Force Wolfhounds and Tentara Nasional Indonesia Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD Indonesia Armed Forces) 11th Squadron Aviation maneuver together as part of a joint live fire exercise between US Army and TNI- AD aviation. The joint mission showcased Apache helicopters from both armies maneuvering and eliminating targets with live rounds including 30mm gun rounds, 2 Hellfire missiles and 2.75 inch rockets. The live fire exercise was a part of Garuda Shield 19. 

Garuda Shield is an annual, bilateral military exercise sponsored by the U.S. Army Pacific and hosted annually by Tentara Nasional Indonesia. This year marks the thirteenth iteration of this continuing effort to promote regional peace and security. (U.S. Army photo by Maj. Leah Ganoni, 2IBCT, 25th ID, PAO)


https://www.dvidshub.net/image/5697786/join...aruda-shield-19




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Indon got apache ?

Oh my

Aren’t we toasts
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Indon got apache ?

Oh my

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Riots worsen in Pupua. 500,000 people have lost their lives over the years as Pupauans seek liberty and lead normal lives..
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Indon got apache ?

Oh my

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even kertas putih pertahanan still silent until now... laugh.gif

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Dude, get a grip, don't know whether you are kancheong spider or spreading disinfo rolleyes.gif

Firstly, these numbers can be easily edited if people want to fuck around with OSINT spotters

but if you want to assume they are correct, well

24 HIMARS were reported purchased, which would be suitable for a 4 divisions or 3 divisions plus 1 attrition reserve/training set - 1 battery of MLRS as division level asset is a common US/NATO practice

The very first HIMARS was serial no. 21641 - a 21640 has never been photographed, though it might conceivably exist

Probably then, the numbers run 21641 to 21664

Take a closer look...

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Javelin and Carl Gustav Range at Garuda Shield 19

PUSLATPUR MARINE BASE, INDONESIA
08.22.2019
Photo by Maj. Leah Ganoni 
U.S. Army Pacific Public Affairs Office  

Soldiers from the Tentara Nasional Indonesia Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD Indonesia Armed Forces) fire a Javelin as a part of a joint fires range with -27 Infantry Regiment, Wolfhounds, 2nd Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division on Pustapur Marine Base. The joint range was a part of the ongoing training conducted during Exercise Garuda Shield.

Garuda Shield is an annual, bilateral military exercise sponsored by the U.S. Army Pacific and hosted annually by Tentara Nasional Indonesia. This year marks the thirteenth iteration of this continuing effort to promote regional peace and security. U.S. Army photo by Maj. Leah Ganoni, 2IBCT, 25th ID, PAO)


https://www.dvidshub.net/image/5693535/jave...aruda-shield-19


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North Korea's new MLRS.

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 26 2019, 02:00 AM)
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/i...opment-11836300

Riots worsen in Pupua. 500,000 people have lost their lives over the years as Pupauans seek liberty and lead normal lives..
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500k? that many?
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500k? that many?
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when you stretch that figure over decades, maybe.

myammar conflict also got that figure
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500k? that many?
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I've look at the article and nothing mentioned of the 500k figure.

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 26 2019, 12:00 AM)
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/i...opment-11836300

Riots worsen in Pupua. 500,000 people have lost their lives over the years as Pupauans seek liberty and lead normal lives..
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That's highly disputed....no proven of massacre in Papua.

Papuans already lead normal lives with autonomy and led by Papuan local officials....already heavily subsidized, central government get just a little

Cheap western propaganda
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Sinkie is posting with their shiny toys. Indon with their improvements. Tuan tanah nak post ape?
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Sinkie is posting with their shiny toys. Indon with their improvements. Tuan tanah nak post ape?
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UAV,LCA,maritime heli and FIC otw...already got plan for improve adnan and MIFV ...slow slow bro....the closer things is white paper which we should see by the end of year...
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Aug 26 2019, 03:58 AM)
Dude, get a grip, don't know whether you are kancheong spider or spreading disinfo rolleyes.gif

Firstly, these numbers can be easily edited if people want to fuck around with OSINT spotters

but if you want to assume they are correct, well

24 HIMARS were reported purchased, which would be suitable for a 4 divisions or 3 divisions plus 1 attrition reserve/training set - 1 battery of MLRS as division level asset is a common US/NATO practice

The very first HIMARS was serial no. 21641 - a 21640 has never been photographed, though it might conceivably exist

Probably then, the numbers run 21641 to 21664

Take a closer look...
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Where were 24 Himars reportedly purchased? Sipri says 18
. Countries can purchase either from fms or direct sales - the latter are generally conducted by close allies or partners. Prior to this 2019 video, the last series seen were the 50 series...e.g. 21655, etc.

This is the first time a 60 series Himars has been seen.

Hence, it is clear that Sg has increased the number of Himars purchased; at least 24-25. And I posit that it is in fact more given the number of pods/launchers Sg had purchased(fms) and possibly more

Feel free to feel to understate the significance of this latest video. You are entitled to it.

Im pretty sure there is 70 series Himars.



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Sinkie is posting with their shiny toys. Indon with their improvements. Tuan tanah nak post ape?
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kertas putih
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I've look at the article and nothing mentioned of the 500k figure.
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Here:

https://thediplomat.com/2014/01/the-human-t...-of-west-papua/

Hope that is helpful!

To be frank, im shocked. International NGOs should look at this.

In the past couple of months/years, ASEAN was concerned about the Rohingya...but in fact we have a cancer right in the heart of ASEAN.


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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Aug 26 2019, 03:58 AM)
Dude, get a grip, don't know whether you are kancheong spider or spreading disinfo rolleyes.gif

Firstly, these numbers can be easily edited if people want to fuck around with OSINT spotters

but if you want to assume they are correct, well

24 HIMARS were reported purchased, which would be suitable for a 4 divisions or 3 divisions plus 1 attrition reserve/training set - 1 battery of MLRS as division level asset is a common US/NATO practice

The very first HIMARS was serial no. 21641 - a 21640 has never been photographed, though it might conceivably exist

Probably then, the numbers run 21641 to 21664

Take a closer look...
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Afaik unlike any other countries any procurement of US made military equipment must go through the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) Program and DSCA Notification through congress. The exact numbers are there.

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Afaik unlike any other countries any procurement of US made military equipment must go through the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) Program and DSCA Notification through congress. The exact numbers are there.
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Rubbish!

Certainly; for Indonesia. Not so for US strategic partners and allies. For these, some are done vis FMS. Others are direct commercial
sales. But other countries are also eligible for direct commercial sales for less critical items.

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Boxer ARV Module.

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 26 2019, 01:55 PM)
Here:

https://thediplomat.com/2014/01/the-human-t...-of-west-papua/

Hope that  is helpful!

To be frank, im shocked. International NGOs should look at this.

In the past couple of months/years, ASEAN was concerned about the Rohingya...but in fact we have a cancer right in the heart of ASEAN.
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indo is a sleeping murican ally... it has great interest in the biggest gold/copper mine there... it wont rile up indo.. not in its interest...

just like yemen... nobody cares

main focus of western media now is on HK
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Indonesia allocates USD8.9 billion to defence in 2020

Jon Grevatt, Bangkok and Andrew MacDonald, Singapore - Jane's Defence Weekly
21 August 2019

The Indonesian government has formally proposed a fiscal year (FY) 2020 defence budget of IDR127.4 trillion (USD8.9 billion). According to budgetary documents published by the Ministry of Finance (MoF), the defence budget represents a 16% increase over the 2019 allocation of IDR109.6 trillion.

The documents state that the 2020 defence budget, which amounts to about 5% of total government expenditure in the year, will be used to support procurement efforts in line with the country's Minimum Essential Force (MEF) military modernisation programme.

"In FY 2020 the Ministry of Defence will continue strategic priority programmes and activities in order to support MEF fulfilment," said the MoF.


https://www.janes.com/article/90564/indones...defence-in-2020


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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Aug 26 2019, 02:23 PM)
indo is a sleeping murican ally... it has great interest in the biggest gold/copper mine there... it wont rile up indo.. not in its interest...

just like yemen... nobody cares

main focus of western media now is on HK
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Under Trump maybe. But maybe not under the democrats...
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ROTFL.
ROTFL.
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Some info for the ignorant on fms and dcs:

https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2018/1...-up-13-percent/

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Aug 26 2019, 02:23 PM)
indo is a sleeping murican ally... it has great interest in the biggest gold/copper mine there... it wont rile up indo.. not in its interest...

just like yemen... nobody cares

main focus of western media now is on HK
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ASEAN will be first line in the net to snare the Chinese Dragon....
US will feed Indon with anything they want so long as they can be trusted to contain thongsan when the time comes.
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ASEAN will do nothing unfortunately due to its policy of non inteference.

The US policy when selling arms is not to disrupt the regional order or pecking order so to speak. For instance it will not arm indonesia so that it becomes more capable than e.g. Australia. This is a cornerstone of US policy.

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 26 2019, 11:55 AM)
Here:

https://thediplomat.com/2014/01/the-human-t...-of-west-papua/

Hope that  is helpful!

To be frank, im shocked. International NGOs should look at this.

In the past couple of months/years, ASEAN was concerned about the Rohingya...but in fact we have a cancer right in the heart of ASEAN.
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Hahaha....what cancer....

Cheap western propaganda....still no proven evidence of massacres....

Today, it's all about infrastructure development in Papua. In fact, each village in Papua gets 300k RM subsidy each year from central government. Of course, western media won't report this....






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Indonesian Army and AVIBRAS on early August 2019 conducted a function test with a live firing of ASTROS II MLRS. The Indonesian Army is expecting delivery of a new batch of ASTROS II MLRS.

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https://tni.mil.id/view-156491-danramil-13b...ba-senjata.html

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  PILOT KILLED IN FIGHTER JET CRASH OFF SPAIN’S MURCIA

THE body of the military pilot who’s jet went down off the coast of southern Spain has been found.

Commander Francisco Marin Nunez had managed to eject before the C-101 training aircraft crashed but his body was later recovered from the water.

The air plane had been filmed by onlookers as it hit the water at high speed near La Manga.

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AIRMAN: Nunez killed in crash

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Where were 24 Himars reportedly purchased? Sipri says 18
. Countries can purchase either from fms or direct sales - the latter are generally conducted by close allies or partners. Prior to this  2019 video, the last series seen were the 50 series...e.g. 21655, etc.

This is the first time a 60 series Himars has been seen.

Hence, it is clear that Sg has increased the number of Himars purchased; at least 24-25. And I posit that it is in fact more given the number of pods/launchers Sg had purchased(fms) and possibly more

Feel free to feel to understate the significance of this latest video. You are entitled to it.

Im pretty sure there is  70 series Himars.
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Lol

"I'm pretty sure" "I'm pretty sure"

You are very easily "pretty sure" based on some real flimsy evidence

"Pretty sure" there is 70 series based on ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

"Pretty sure" there is 60 series based on a screenshot

MLRS users always buy more pods than launch platforms because the pods are for fast reloading

Also, your eyes rosak, I give you one chance - go and take a look at your silly screenshot again and see properly tongue.gif
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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 26 2019, 11:22 PM)
Indonesian Army and AVIBRAS on early August 2019 conducted a function test with a live firing of ASTROS II MLRS. The Indonesian Army is expecting delivery of a new batch of ASTROS II MLRS.

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same as msia's?

vs sg one... which one better?
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Lol

"I'm pretty sure" "I'm pretty sure"

You are very easily "pretty sure" based on some real flimsy evidence

"Pretty sure" there is 70 series based on ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

"Pretty sure" there is 60 series based on a screenshot

MLRS users always buy more pods than launch platforms because the pods are for fast reloading

Also, your eyes rosak, I give you one chance - go and take a look at your silly screenshot again and see properly tongue.gif
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You are getting uptight because of what? Cant take the possibility of the numbers being higher? I posited something given the number of pods bought and that some serial numbers were blurred, in my view, intentionalltly.

Yes, you are right about the screenshot.

I remain confident that the numbers are higher and that we will know in the future - similar to F15sg, F16s, Leo2SGs,etc.

Ill remember to post it here.

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same as msia's?

vs sg one... which one better?
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Ones guided. The other one isnt. Ones more longer ranged than the other one.
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Ones guided. The other one isnt. Ones more longer ranged than the other one.
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To me, the most important thing is that it is networked.

Recently, US marines F35Bs were able to jointly coordinate precision fires with Himars, similar to RSAF F15sgs and F16s.
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SG wasting money buying shiny toys...I think SG should build a battalion of kiasu keyboard army and all defence problem are solved. Just rent sone US toys paint with SG flag so these keyboard army have something to show and pay US for protection. Nobody is feel treatened with SG toys, nobody want to attack SG because there is nothing there if occupied or destroyed. SG doesnt have to rent foreign land to park their toys.


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Malaysia hopes to pay for military equipment with palm oil, says minister

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Malaysia is in talks with at last six countries on the possibility of using palm oil to pay for arms, as South-east Asia’s third-biggest economy seeks to replace old equipment to boost its defence capabilities.

Malaysia has struggled to update its defence equipment over the years and a cut in its defence budget this year all but derailed efforts to replace navy ships, some of which have been in service for 35 years or more.


Costs have been a big hurdle but using palm oil to help pay for equipment could open new avenues to upgrade, Defence Minister Mohamad Sabu said today.

Mohamad said discussions on paying with palm oil had started with China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Turkey and Iran.

“If they are prepared to accept a palm barter trade, we are very willing to go in that direction,” Mohamad told Reuters in an interview.


“We have a lot of palm oil.”

Malaysia and Indonesia, the world’s two largest palm oil producers, are embroiled in a dispute with the European Union over a plan to phase out the commodity from renewable fuels used by the bloc by 2030 over deforestation concerns.

The two countries supply about 85 per cent of global palm oil, much of which is used in food but also in items such as lipstick and soap.

Mohamad said he could not put a figure on how much palm oil Malaysia was looking to trade for defence equipment.

Besides new ships, Malaysia was also keen to acquire long-range surveillance aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles and fast intercept boats, the minister said.

Defence revamp

The planned barter is part of a 10-year defence policy to be tabled in parliament this year, which Mohamad said would focus on boosting naval capabilities, including in the disputed South China Sea.

China claims historic jurisdiction over the sea via a so-called nine-dash line on maps, but it overlaps with territory claimed by Malaysia, China, Vietnam, Brunei and the Philippines.

Taiwan also claims most of the sea.

Recent Chinese naval deployments in the disputed sea, through which over US$3.4 trillion in goods are transported annually, have reignited tension with Vietnam and the Philippines.

Malaysia had been critical of China’s South China Sea position, but has not been excessively outspoken recently, especially after China pumped in billions of dollars into infrastructure projects under its Belt and Road Initiative.

Malaysia regularly tracked Chinese naval and coastguard vessels entering Malaysia’s territorial waters, Mohamad said, but added that China respects Malaysia and had “not done anything that caused us trouble, so far”.

However, South-east Asian counties would need to work together to make sure their interests are not drowned out by big powers like the US and China jostling for control, Mohamad said.



“We want this region to remain peaceful and neutral,” Mohamad said. — Reuters
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You are getting uptight because of what?  Cant take the possibility of the numbers being higher? I posited something given the number of pods bought and that some serial numbers were blurred, in my view, intentionalltly.

Yes, you are right about the screenshot.

I remain confident that the numbers are higher and that we will know in the future - similar to F15sg, F16s, Leo2SGs,etc.

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Proven wrong can still try to reflect on me. No, I'm not "uptight", I'm just enjoying the quandary your mouth put you into

Now you have zero evidence to prove your theory, you have nothing but conjecture to fall back on, and yet you can speak with such arrogance

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Kontak Senjata di Papua, 1 TNI Tewas, 2 Polisi Terluka

KOMPAS.com - Kontak senjata terjadi di wilayah Deiyai, Papua, Rabu (28/8/2019). Satu prajurit TNI AD dikabarkan tewas sementara dua anggota Polri terluka. Kapolda Papua Irjen Pol Rudolf Rodja mengatakan, saat ini kontak tembak masih berlangsung di Deiyai. Anggota TNI AD meninggal akibat terkena panah, demikian pula dua anggota Polri yang berasal dari Brimob dan dalmas. “Kapolres Paniai dan tim masih kontak tembak,” kata Irjen Pol Rodja, seperti dilansir dari Antara dari Jayapura, Rabu. Dalam insiden tersebut dilaporkan satu pucuk senjata milik TNI-AD hilang. Ketika ditanya tentang korban lainnya, Kapolda Papua mengaku belum dapat laporan lengkap. Irjen Pol Rudolf Rodja mengatakan masih berada di Timika.

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10 Pucuk Senjata Api TNI AD Dilaporkan Hilang saat Kerusuhan di Deiyai Papua

Merdeka.com - Sebanyak 10 pucuk senjata api milik TNI AD dilaporkan hilang dalam insiden kerusuhan yang terjadi di Deiyai, Papua Rabu (28/8). Salah satu senjata hilang adalah pucuk senpi yang dipegang almarhum Serda Rikson. Dilaporkan 10 pucuk senpi jenis SS 1 itu hilang beserta magasen yang berisi pelurunya.

Kapendam XVII Cenderawasih Letkol CPL Eko Daryanto mengakui, belum bisa memastikan informasi tersebut karena saat ini masih menunggu laporan.

"Belum ada laporan tentang 10 pucuk yang diinformasikan hilang," kata Letkol CPL Eko yang mengaku satu pucuk senjata api yang dipegang alm Serda Rikson juga hilang seperti dikutip Antara, Rabu (28/7).

Jenazah Serda Rikson dijadwalkan dievakuasi ke Nabire dan dua anggota lainnya mengalami luka-luka bahkan seorang di antaranya yaitu Sertu Sunendra, kata Letkol CPL Eko Daryanto.

Sebelumnya, unjuk rasa menuntut penandatanganan persetujuan referendum Papua berujung ricuh. Empat orang aparat keamanan jadi korban dalam insiden tersebut. Massa menggelar aksi tersebut di depan Kantor Bupati Deiyai, Papua, hari ini (28/8).

Kepala Biro Penerangan Masyarakat (Karopenmas) Divisi Humas Mabes Polri Brigjen Pol Dedi Prasetyo mengatakan, awalnya jumlah demonstran hanya berjumlah 150 orang. TNI-Polri yang dikerahkan ke lokasi mencoba bernegosiasi dengan pengunjuk rasa.

Saat proses negosiasi berlangsung, ribuan massa dari berbagai penjuru datang membawa senjata tajam dan panah.

"Langsung menyerang aparat keamanan. 1 TNI (tewas), dan 3 Polri (belum dapat konfirmasi) jadi korban," katanya. [ray]

https://www.merdeka.com/peristiwa/11-pucuk-...iyai-papua.html
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Hahaha....what cancer....

Cheap western propaganda....still no proven evidence of massacres....

Today, it's all about infrastructure development in Papua. In fact, each village in Papua gets 300k RM subsidy each year from central government. Of course, western media won't report this....
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not that i give a damn about papua (I dont).but the diplomat is an indian newspaper
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not that i give a damn about papua (I dont).but the diplomat is an indian newspaper
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Copy from western media
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Indonesian & US Army AH-64E Apache Guardians live firing demo with various firing attacking mode during Exercise Garuda Shield 2019.



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Indonesia reported took delivery of its first CASC CH-4 Rainbow MALE UCAV. Live firing test to be conducted during this year TNI Combined Exercise.

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https://www.indomiliter.com/drone-kombatan-...a-di-indonesia/
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Royal Thai Army receives first batch of Stryker ICVs from US

Gabriel Dominguez, London - Jane's Defence Weekly
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The RTA has received a first batch of Stryker ICVs from the United States, according to a 29 August announcement by the JUSMAGTHAI. Source: JUSMAGTHAI

The United States has delivered a first batch of General Dynamics Land Systems Stryker 8×8 infantry combat vehicles (ICVs) to the Royal Thai Army (RTA), the Joint US Military Advisory Group Thailand (JUSMAGTHAI) announced on 29 August on its Facebook page.

The advisory group also released images showing the ICVs at an undisclosed Thai airbase after being flown to the Southeast Asian country aboard a US Air Force C-17 Globemaster III transport aircraft. The photographs also show Thai and US officials present at the handover, including US Navy Admiral Philip Davidson, the commander of the US Indo-Pacific Command (USINDOPACOM).

The JUSMAGTHAI did not diclose how many vehicles were delivered but Jane's understands that up to 10 Strykers were part of the first batch, with more batches expected to follow, possibly in financial year 2020.


https://www.janes.com/article/90741/royal-t...er-icvs-from-us


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Indonesia reported took delivery of its first CASC CH-4 Rainbow MALE UCAV. Live firing test to be conducted during this year TNI Combined Exercise.

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Malaysia - RMAF

SHAH ALAM: Old Fulcrums for new Fulcrums?. Russia wants to buy RMAF 16 stored MiG-29s for two squadrons of the latest generation Mig-35, says the New Straits Times. In a report dateline Moscow, the newspaper said this was the offer made to Malaysia by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

NST quoted Victor Kladov, Rostec State Corporation’s international cooperation and regional policy director, as saying that:

Kladov said Putin was in favour of a complete buy-back of the 18 grounded Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) MiG-29N for two squadrons of new-generation stealth MiG-35 fighters.

He said he told Dr Mahathir that the MiG-35 fighters did away with smoky engines and were equipped with advanced and powerful fly-by-wire avionics, artificial intelligence, computers and weapons systems that minimised the pilot’s workload.

“Similarly, we are also looking at replacing the RMAF’s fleet of Sikorsky S-61 Nuri helicopters, which are half a century old. The newer generation Mi-171 helicopters… have been proven workhorses for the United Nations during the Afghanistan conflict.

“Also on the cards is Russia’s offer of Yak 130 light combat jets, on flexible terms, offset and transfer-of-technology deals that will offer a win-win situation for both nations.”

Rostec’s subsidiary, Russian Helicopters, is expected to sell eight units of Ansat, Mil Mi-8/17 and Kamov Ka-32A11DC to the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency and Fire and Rescue Department.


Read more: http://www.malaysiandefence.com/old-fulcru...r-new-fulcrums/

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PH's 2nd missile frigate launch set in November

By Priam Nepomuceno  August 29, 2019, 11:03 am

MANILA -- The Philippine Navy's (PN) second missile frigate, the BRP Antonio Luna (FF-151), will be formally launched in November.

"Our second frigate will be launched on either the first or second week of November. By that time, the first frigate (BRP Jose Rizal (FF-150) will be finished (fitting its equipment)," said Navy flag-officer-in-command Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad during an interview with reporters at the PN headquarters at Naval Station Jose Andrada, Roxas Boulevard, Manila Wednesday.

The launching ceremonies will take place at the Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI) shipyard in Ulsan, South Korea.

The BRP Jose Rizal, the country's first missile frigate, was launched at the same facility last May 23.

The first missile frigate is expected to be delivered to the PN by April 2020 while the BRP Antonio Luna is scheduled for September of the same year.

The Philippines and HHI signed a PHP16-billion contract for two missile-armed frigates with another PHP2 billion set aside for its weapon systems and munition.

The steel-cutting for BRP Jose Rizal took place in April 1, 2018 while the same ceremony for BRP Antonio Luna transpired on November the same year. This event officially signified the start of the actual construction of the frigates.

Meanwhile, the keel-laying ceremony for BRP Jose Rizal took place in October 2018 as the formal recognition of the start of the ship’s construction.

Keel-laying refers to the official start of the construction of any ship and is considered among the four highlights of any surface vessel with the other three being steel-cutting, commissioning, and decommissioning.

Both ships are armed with an Oto Melara 76mm Super Rapid main gun, an Aselsan SMASH 30mm remote-controlled secondary cannon, anti-submarine torpedoes, and anti-air and ship missiles.


Read more: https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1078985

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i think posted b4... anywya.. frontal portion no ciws?
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i think posted b4... anywya.. frontal portion no ciws?
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Yes i posted the pic before but the news is new. No CIWS at the front.

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AH-64E Apache, AH-1Z Viper and Tiger attack helicopters to compete for Australian armed reconnaissance requirement

Julian Kerr, Sydney - Jane's Defence Weekly
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Boeing 's AH-64E Apache, Bell's AH-1Z Viper, and Airbus' Tiger attack helicopter have been formally offered to Australia to meet the country's Project Land 4503 Armed Reconnaissance Capability (ARC) requirement.

The confirmations from Boeing and Bell came on the closing day of a Request for Information (RFI) released on 1 July by the Australian Department of Defence's Capability Acquisition and Sustainment Group (CASG) seeking submissions to replace the Australian Army's fleet of 22 Tiger armed reconnaissance helicopters.

This is seeking to acquire a total of 29 airframes, 24 of which will be based at a single location, with a further five assigned to training operations.


https://www.janes.com/article/90749/ah-64e-...nce-requirement

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Makassar Class LPD for Myanmar Navy

21 Agustus 2019

First LPD of Myanmar Navy, UMS Moattama, pennant number is 1501, will enter service on 2019 Navy Day. Moattama means gulf of  Martaban, an arm of the Andaman Sea in the southern part of Myanmar (photos : RoK Armed Forces, defence.pk)

We finally have a clear photo of a Makassar-class LPD being built at Daesun Shipbuilding & Engineering shipyard in Busan, which had been spotted on Google Earth since at least a year ago.

The ship's hull number is 1501 and it is most likely meant for the Myanmar Navy according to local source. This deal was not reported on either Korean or Myanmar media, most likely due to the latter's human rights issue and its connection to North Korea. South Korean government likes to keep potentially controversial arms deal "low key," for understandable reasons.

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As seen in the photo, LPD 1501 was already launched, with the ceremony allegedly taking place at least a month ago. LPD 1501 is expected to be delivered to the Myanmar Navy soon.

Despite Makassar-class design's export right being granted to Indonesia, it seems like Daesun still retains the original IP considering Daesun also exported the Makassar-class to Peru in 2012.

Indonesia independently exported the class to the Philipines, which is locally known as Tarlac-class LPD.

(RoK Armed Forces)


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Now 3 members of Asean use makassar class LPD. Best buy in term of price and value?
Any news on RMN LPD aquisition?

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Now 3 members of Asean use makassar class LPD. Best buy in term of price and value?
Any news on RMN LPD aquisition?
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PH SSV was around USD92 million iinm...so yeah...its really good price for the mission they want.

but for MRSS need see what the budget plus RMN want and govt willing to get...basically the MRSS will sail with its cargo/mission from point A to B with other vessel which would provide support and protection so MRSS should have at least a good sensor and CIWS+decoy+RWS+ main gun...

better wait for defense white paper around the end of year for further info...
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Boeing offers AH-64E Apache for Australia’s reconnaissance helicopter program

• The AH-64E Apache has proven itself globally as a reconnaissance and combat platform
• Boeing’s Australia-based operations would maintain fleet.

CANBERRA, Australia,  August 30, 2019 - Boeing [NYSE:BA] today offered the AH-64E Apache to the Commonwealth of Australia in its search for a new reconnaissance helicopter platform.

The government is seeking 29 helicopters that would reach full operating capability by 2029. It’s also seeking the availability of local industrial capability to sustain the fleet. The aircraft would replace the nation’s current fleet of Eurofighter Tiger helicopters.

The Apache, flown by the United States and 15 other countries, has recorded more than 4.5 million flight hours with the U.S. Army alone. There are currently 1,180 Apaches in service today.

Australia would not only benefit from the AH-64’s mission capabilities, it would also enjoy its technological and strategic advantages against adversary aircraft; a global parts and supply network and a domestic training, support and sustainment team. Boeing’s Australia operations currently support the nation’s C-17 Globemaster III, Airborne Early Warning & Control and other systems, helping to grow Australia’s domestic aerospace and defence industry and supply base.

“Boeing’s AH-64E Apache is known for its survivability, sustainability, interoperability and reconnaissance capability,” said Terry Jamison, Global Sales and Marketing, Defense, Space and Security. “As an Apache operator, Australia would join coalition countries, including the US and UK, and regional partners Singapore, Indonesia, Japan and the Republic of Korea.”

Australia would also benefit from the US Government’s Apache Modernization program, which will see the platform upgraded through the late-2040s and beyond to ensure global fleet partners continue to operate the most advanced multi-role combat helicopter for decades to come.

Boeing’s proposal is in response to a request for information from the Commonwealth of Australia’s LAND 4503 Armed Reconnaissance Helicopter (ARH) replacement program.

“The benefits of Apache for Australia are more significant than continued platform upgrades,” said Darren Edwards, vice president and managing director, Boeing Defence Australia. “Boeing plans to deliver support services in-country and engage local suppliers to maximise Australian industry involvement for the ARH replacement program.”


https://www.boeing.com.au/news/releases/201...er-program.page

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Chinese CH-4 UAV arrives in Surabaya for demonstration flight

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Defence Weekly
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A single Chinese-made CH-4 medium-altitude, long endurance (MALE) unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) has arrived in Indonesia for demonstration flights, the Indonesian Navy's (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut: TNI-AL's) aviation squadron confirmed to Jane's on 30 August.

Although the service has declined to provide further details of the airframe, Jane's understands from images provided that the location at which the aircraft is parked is the Juanda airbase in Surabaya, the headquarters of the TNI-AL's aviation squadron.

Jane's also understands that the TNI-AL is assisting the Indonesian Air Force (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Udara: TNI-AU) in arranging the series of demonstration flights.


https://www.janes.com/article/90767/chinese...stration-flight

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Navy to commission 4 amphibious vehicles, 3 attack craft Sept. 16

By Priam Nepomuceno  August 28, 2019, 1:44 pm

MANILA -- The Philippine Navy (PN) is scheduled to commission into service four additional amphibious assault vehicles (AAVs) and three more multi-purpose attack craft (MPAC) next month.

"The four AAVs along with the three MPACs will be commissioned into service this coming September 16," Navy flag officer in command, Vice Admiral Robert Empedrad said in a press briefing held at the PN headquarters in Naval Station Jose Andrada in Manila Wednesday.

The first four AAVs were commissioned at the 121st PN founding anniversary during ceremonies at Naval Base Heracleo Alano, Sangley Point, Cavite last June 17.

While the second batch of AAVs arrived this August and had successfully completed their Technical Inspection and Acceptance Committee on the same month.

The AAV contract is worth PHP2.42 billion.

These vehicles are armed with .50-caliber machineguns, 40mm grenade launchers and smoke launchers.


Read more: https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1078874

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New Swedish bank tax to finance military spending

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at MAKS 2019....awesome!!!


SU-35....never seen any western made can do this


SU-57.....ready fo export


Mig 35.....Russia offers RMAF to trade in Mig29 with this

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Yes, but it looked on mobile like combined with the AA-10 behind biggrin.gif
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Yes, but it looked on mobile like combined with the AA-10 behind biggrin.gif
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Yeah, at first..I thought it's R-27 with booster...made me surprised that there's such version
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Russia made fighter demo
at MAKS 2019....awesome!!!
SU-35....never seen any western made can do this


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firstly bro,in order to post YT just paste partial address only... you can see other post or above and learn how to do it...

another is,nowadays most engagement with jet or even vessel are concentrate to who detect and fired first which is why stealth(to make detection harder) and more advance radar tech will help a lot. no matter how good the acrobatic is but if it got big RCS(radar cross section), it will be easy to detect and target with.

it took billion of money and intelligent people to make F22 and F35 to the level now (will advance more further in future for F35), i doubt russian will able to compete with this stealth game...but i hope i'm wrong tho..


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whatever it take to survive.... rclxms.gif


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whatever it take to survive....  rclxms.gif


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I read about stories Americuns solder (normal grunt and tier one guys) have issues adapting to local SEA jungle conditions? Like they are not used to the way local do their stuff and their bail out their training etc?
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I read about stories Americuns solder (normal grunt and tier one guys) have issues adapting to local SEA jungle conditions? Like they are not used to the way local do their stuff and their bail out their training etc?
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a lot of SEA wanna show they are stronk and conveniently forgot it is all about training not torture... so they ramp up the gungho-ness... instead of achievement mutual learning, they wanna show their leech e-penor is longer... in the end was there goodwill? or just a bragging show?


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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 2 2019, 12:22 PM)
a lot of SEA wanna show they are stronk and conveniently forgot it is all about training not torture... so they ramp up the gungho-ness... instead of achievement mutual learning, they wanna show their leech e-penor is longer... in the end was there goodwill? or just a bragging show?
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Or both?? Comparing whoose dick is longer and stronk?

If i not mistaken the Brits have jungle traning school/Camp in brunei?
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I read about stories Americuns solder (normal grunt and tier one guys) have issues adapting to local SEA jungle conditions? Like they are not used to the way local do their stuff and their bail out their training etc?
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most people will have hard time to adapting to new environment....and i think usually its the new guy who will face it tho...with the intensity of western country have exercise with thai,indon and us,for sure they not as weak as the story is...

QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 2 2019, 12:22 PM)
a lot of SEA wanna show they are stronk and conveniently forgot it is all about training not torture... so they ramp up the gungho-ness... instead of achievement mutual learning, they wanna show their leech e-penor is longer... in the end was there goodwill? or just a bragging show?
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actually what you expect from the people who train for prowess and body???they will play nice with each other

most of the training was design for the most harsh condition can be because it better to have that experience on training and under supervision than in the field during the war...btw all the pic is normal for jungle ex....
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firstly bro,in order to post YT just paste partial address only... you can see other post or above and learn how to do it...

another is,nowadays most engagement with jet or even vessel are concentrate to who detect and fired first which is why stealth(to make detection harder) and more advance radar tech will help a lot. no matter how good the acrobatic is but if it got big RCS(radar cross section), it will be easy to detect and target with.

it took billion of money and intelligent people to make F22 and F35 to the level now (will advance more further in future for F35), i doubt russian will able to compete with this stealth game...but i hope i'm wrong tho..
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Oh..ok.thanks.
F22 is made with excelent manoeuvre but not F35. Although US confidence in their sensors, radar, stealth ability but still they must have option if stealth feature is failed.
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PUBLISHED: August 31, 2019

PHL sets new bidding for 2 Landing Docks

Gaile Tiamzon

With the previous bidding for Acquisition of Landing Docks (LDs) for the Philippine Navy being not successful, the Department of National Defense (DND) has set another bidding.

One major revision for the new bidding is the removal of provision requiring a tie-up with local companies or shipyard so that a minimum of one unit of the 2 ordered LDs will be constructed in country.

However, in the new bidding the DND requires the builder to “grant the ownership of the vessel’s design to the Department of National Defense and the Philippine Navy.”

This project involves two (2) units New Construction Landing Docks Vessels with four (4) units Landing Craft Utility (LCU) and four (4) units Rigid Hull Inflatable Boat (RHIB) with Integrated Logistics Support (ILS) for the Philippine Navy.

The project has an approved budget for contract of PHP5,560,000,000.00. A pre-bid conference is set on September 10. The bid opening will be held on September 24.

The DND, in supplemental bid bulletin for the previous bidding, noted the “criticality of time in acquiring said vessels.”

The Philippine Navy is currently operating two Tarlac-class landing platform docks acquired under Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) Modernization Program First Horizon.


https://www.mintfo.com/news/phl-sets-new-bi...ng-docks/13731/
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East Meets West - Indonesian Army Aviation Helicopters. Credit to Skadron 11/Serbu.

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Sep 02, 2019

The Indonesian police force reportedly has signed a letter of intent for the purchase of 11 twin-engine, medium-size Leonardo helicopters—nine AW169s and two AW189s.

Scheduling delivery of the aircraft batches next year, the deal was initially agreed to in December 2018, Indonesian police air unit director Anang Syarif Hidayat told Airspace Review, an Indonesian industry news service.

The two AW189s will be stationed at the air unit headquarters near the capital city of Jakarta, while the nine AW169s will be distributed to nine police districts across the archipelago.


Read more: http://m.aviationweek.com/asia-aerospace-d...rdo-helicopters


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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 2 2019, 12:22 PM)
a lot of SEA wanna show they are stronk and conveniently forgot it is all about training not torture... so they ramp up the gungho-ness... instead of achievement mutual learning, they wanna show their leech e-penor is longer... in the end was there goodwill? or just a bragging show?
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Training has many levels. Usually training like this was designed by both host and guest nations. Can not be said it was to show off.
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MALAYSIAN MIG-29N - A SAD STORIES


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MALAYSIAN MIG-29N - A SAD STORIES


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Man. Why not we took russian offer with the mig 35? Whats the pro and con? Is long term the russian are not reliable?
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Man. Why not we took russian offer with the mig 35?  Whats the pro and con? Is long term the russian are not reliable?
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we already have MKM for air superiority so we dont need another of that. adding another different jet fighter will increase our rojak fleet that we want to cut down. plus its been confirm how unreliable russian in providing spare part.

long term wise,russian jet cant fly that long compare to western jet. for example the legacy hornet of australia AF which have serve from 90s still got buyer such as canada AF....

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I read about stories Americuns solder (normal grunt and tier one guys) have issues adapting to local SEA jungle conditions? Like they are not used to the way local do their stuff and their bail out their training etc?
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Depends what you are talking about

Needing to acclimatise to the tropical jungle is obviously inevitable

Following the way the local do their stuff? They may consider some things are unnecessary for their style of warfare. E.g., they would be used to having more equipment and would not need to do some of the things we do

QUOTE(minizian @ Sep 2 2019, 12:54 PM)
Or both?? Comparing whoose dick is longer and stronk?

If i not mistaken the Brits have jungle traning school/Camp in brunei?
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And in Belize

Exercises together can be demonstrative type or interoperability type. One type is just for diplomacy and showing off discreetly. Another type is more about practising to work together for reals
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Sep 2 2019, 11:36 PM)
we already have MKM for air superiority so we dont need another of that. adding another different jet fighter will increase our rojak fleet that we want to cut down. plus its been confirm how unreliable russian in providing spare part.

long term wise,russian jet cant fly that long compare to western jet. for example the legacy hornet of australia AF which have serve from 90s still got buyer such as canada AF....
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it so just happen when the soviet fall so does it supply chain itself. Make matter worse where we go through middle man company practice which is not the cheapest option btw.

To say russian in unreliable to provide spare parts is an undertone, there numerous MIG29s still in the market. Even North Korea is flying them still without "official" russian support brows.gif brows.gif . There india for spare parts if needed although they have trouble mass producing them for themselves even

Malaysia mig29 is the youngest of the fleet to be retired. Partly also the reason why russian is eyeing them for such a young plane to be kept in storage

a few reason i believe where TUDM decided to mothball the mig29

1. Narrow mission - MIG29 is ground up an interceptor and air defence role while not truly an multi role which the MKM and F18 is capable of
2. High cost per flying hour - as mentioned, middle man company make it high cost to fly. Make worse by the r-33 engine short service interval n smoky engine
3. Budget cut.. might as well put the operation budget to the MKM n F18 instead
4. Unlike the MKM which was heavily westernized, the MIG29 was not, in fact it was russian ex stock to be sent over. Harder to get those required russian parts due to their own fleet lag as well

Canada is a second hand country, they would take it even it not the best consideration. The logic if it still flying, it still worth using. Canadian are not fond of defence spending anyway, Even buying 2nd have have difficulty on it owns


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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Sep 2 2019, 09:38 PM)
Man. Why not we took russian offer with the mig 35?  Whats the pro and con? Is long term the russian are not reliable?
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the question is how much palm oil russian wiling to take biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 3 2019, 12:00 AM)
it so just happen when the soviet fall so does it supply chain itself. Make matter worse where we go through middle man company practice which is not the cheapest option btw.

To say russian in unreliable to provide spare parts is an undertone, there numerous MIG29s still in the market. Even North Korea is flying them still without "official" russian support  brows.gif  brows.gif . There india for spare parts if needed although they have trouble mass producing them for themselves even

Malaysia mig29 is the youngest of the fleet to be retired. Partly also the reason why russian is eyeing them for such a young plane to be kept in storage

a few reason i believe where TUDM decided to mothball the mig29

1. Narrow mission - MIG29 is ground up an interceptor and air defence role while not truly an multi role which the MKM and F18 is capable of
2. High cost per flying hour - as mentioned, middle man company make it high cost to fly. Make worse by the r-33 engine short service interval n smoky engine
3. Budget cut.. might as well put the operation budget to the MKM n F18 instead
4. Unlike the MKM which was heavily westernized, the MIG29 was not, in fact it was russian ex stock to be sent over. Harder to get those required russian parts due to their own fleet lag as well

Canada is a second hand country, they would take it even it not the best consideration. The logic if it still flying, it still worth using. Canadian are not fond of defence spending anyway, Even buying 2nd have have difficulty on it owns
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i think even during mig time we face some problem with spare part and lead to our minister going far to reach the ambassador in hope them could reach the mig office....then we decide to go other toward other country that provide the spare part...i dont know if that story is true or i remember it wrong...

mostly the reason of retiring of mig although still young is due to already have good fighter(MKM), high cost keeping two line of fighter and even if we upgrade it into mig29nm or UPG,it still less capable compare to new aircraft that RMAF want ie gripen,super hornet,typhon...kinda agree with 1 and 2 points of yours...btw our mig kinda have western part in it i think...although not as much as MKM tho...

canada buyng 2nd hand as interim only...until trump go away and canada can strike new deal with new president i think... a lot of people waiting for that guy to go away...meanwhile UK used to make fun of trump and US until poor UK got boris laugh.gif

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If someone said Russian jet can not be used for a long time then he can be considered forget that many mig21 still operates till now. Recently india upgrade their mig21and their mig29.
The Russian still operates Tu-95.

It is about how Russian doing business. Maintenance can be very expensive.

Their latest product e.g SU-35 has flyhour of 6000 hrs before upgrade and heavy maintenance is needed. In average a jet workhour is 200 hrs, so it is good to fly for 30 years.


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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Sep 3 2019, 07:49 AM)
If someone said Russian jet can not be used for a long time then he can be considered forget that many mig21 still operates till now. Recently india upgrade their mig21and their mig29.
The Russian still operates Tu-95.

It is about how Russian doing business. Maintenance  can be very expensive.

Their latest product  e.g SU-35 has flyhour of 6000 hrs before upgrade and heavy maintenance is needed. In average a jet workhour is 200 hrs, so it is good to fly for 30 years.
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just because it can fly, would it be mission capable???what about the cost to fly and maintenance vs the range its operation??the only good is its fast but man...it eat fuel like a hungry hippo...


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The current airframe life of the MiG-29N is pegged at 4,000 flight hours, although the highest-time aircraft in service has accrued only around 1,800 hours in 20 years of service. Fadzar said that a concurrent structural upgrade will increase the life of the airframe to 6,000 hours.

https://www.defensenews.com/home/2015/03/28...mig-29-upgrade/


meanwhile RCAF F18 age was 30++ years now...search how many hours it have fly...can still be upgrade to accommodate new radar i think include AESA...

although its from the SU27, SU 35 not widely used so we cant trust much of it...let other be guinea pig for it...we already become it for SU 30...
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Sep 3 2019, 08:26 AM)
just because it can fly, would it be mission capable???what about the cost to fly and maintenance vs the range its operation??the only good is its fast but man...it eat fuel like a hungry hippo...
meanwhile RCAF F18 age was 30++ years now...search how many hours it have fly...can still be upgrade to accommodate new radar i think include AESA...

although its from the SU27, SU 35 not widely used so we cant trust much of it...let other be guinea pig for it...we already become it for SU 30...
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Mig21, mig29, and Tu95 are all operational. It means it can delivered a mission.
About CpFH (cost per flying hour) you will surprise that F15 cost more than SU35, even F-35 a single engine jet cost more than both F15 and SU35.
Like I said Russian jet can be upgraded and last for above 30 years also just like the west made. It is all about upgrade and maintenance.

SU-35 is the latest of the flanker family, it is like F16 viper. So nobody will be guinea pig unless you buy F-35 or SU-57.
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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Sep 3 2019, 08:59 AM)
Mig21, mig29, and Tu95 are all operational. It means it can delivered a mission.
About CpFH (cost per flying hour) you will surprise that F15 cost more than SU35, even F-35 a single engine jet cost more than both F15 and SU35.
Like I said Russian jet can be upgraded and last for above 30 years also just like the west made. It is all about upgrade and maintenance.

SU-35 is the latest of the flanker family, it is like F16 viper. So nobody will be guinea pig unless you buy F-35 or SU-57.
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F35 already been battle proven in Syria and have good kill rate in exercise throughout year..so saying its guinea pig is just...

F35 cost is high sure but come with added advantage such as stealth(and it 5th gen so compare it with lower than that just not fair btw) and this include F15 with reduced radar cross-section...and can be used for long time such as F15 serve...

operational=/= mission capable. in order to keep up with new radar tech and EW warfare, continuous update of jet need to be done this is why you see F16,F18 and F15 keep having this new upgrade being taunt in expo whether in software or hardware just to cope with new threat thus making it able to serve further in future....this upgrade will also serve to cut the cost by introducing new way which more efficient and better...


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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Sep 3 2019, 09:49 AM)
If someone said Russian jet can not be used for a long time then he can be considered forget that many mig21 still operates till now. Recently india upgrade their mig21and their mig29.
The Russian still operates Tu-95.

It is about how Russian doing business. Maintenance  can be very expensive.

Their latest product  e.g SU-35 has flyhour of 6000 hrs before upgrade and heavy maintenance is needed. In average a jet workhour is 200 hrs, so it is good to fly for 30 years.
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6000hours = 30 years? hmm.gif

QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Sep 3 2019, 10:06 AM)
Buy MiG/Sukhoi from India HAL la.....
on top of palm oil, RMAF get further discount for deporting some Indian national residing in Malaysia  innocent.gif  laugh.gif
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their agreement with ruski allows for that?

later buy already more topkekz for maintenance... if u think sourcing from ruski is bad, wait till you deal with indians...

QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Sep 3 2019, 10:59 AM)
Mig21, mig29, and Tu95 are all operational. It means it can delivered a mission.
About CpFH (cost per flying hour) you will surprise that F15 cost more than SU35, even F-35 a single engine jet cost more than both F15 and SU35.
Like I said Russian jet can be upgraded and last for above 30 years also just like the west made. It is all about upgrade and maintenance.

SU-35 is the latest of the flanker family, it is like F16 viper. So nobody will be guinea pig unless you buy F-35 or SU-57.
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f-15 old variant compared with su-35? you should compare the new variant, at least f15e/x

there're more f-35 than su-35... how to be guinea pig... i bet f-35 have more operational hours than su-35
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their agreement with ruski allows for that?
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whole point with buying from yindians is for the keks....
i've worked with them, i know tongue.gif
malaysian indian and indian indian is like comparing elephant and oranges laugh.gif
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whole point with buying from yindians is for the keks....
i've worked with them, i know tongue.gif
malaysian indian and indian indian is like comparing elephant and oranges  laugh.gif
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not referring to msian indian... msian indian/overseas indian no prob... it is india indian...


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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 3 2019, 10:50 AM)
not referring to msian indian... msian indian/overseas indian no prob... it is india indian...
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Indians from HAL though are the kek laugh.gif
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Royal Malaysian Airforce Flexing Muscles on South China Sea- Op Bisa Daya & Op Taring Daya



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Mana Lebih Hebat, Pesawat Tempur Sukhoi Su-35S Indonesia atau F-15SG Singapura?



Pesawat tempur Sukhoi Su-35S adalah salah satu pesawat tempur terbaik yang menjadi andalan Rusia saat ini. Pesawat tempur ini dianggap menjadi lawan sepadan bagi pesawat tempur F-15E Strike Eagle buatan Amerika. Kedua tipe pesawat tempur ini boleh dikawatakan adalah pesawat tempur generasi 4 terbaik hingga saat ini. Dikawasan Asia Tenggara, Singapura sudah memiliki sekitar 40 unit pesawa tempur F-15SG yang merupakan varian dekat F-15E Strike Eagle. Sebagai tetangga dekat Singapura, tentunya kehadiran pesawat tempur canggih ini menjadi perhatian militer Indonesia. Itulah salah satu alasan Indonesia memutuskan membeli 11 unit pesawat tempur Sukhoi Su-35S. Nah sekarang yang menjadi pertanyaan, dari kedua pesawat tempur ini, Sukhoi Su-35S dan F-15SG, yang mana yang paling canggih dan modern? Dan dalam konteks Indonesia dan Singapura, mana lebih unggul pesawat tempur F-15SG Singapura atau Sukhoi Su-35S yang sudah dipesan Indonesia?



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Royal Malaysian Airforce Flexing Muscles on South China Sea- Op Bisa Daya & Op Taring Daya



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Mana Lebih Hebat, Pesawat Tempur Sukhoi Su-35S Indonesia atau F-15SG Singapura?



Pesawat tempur Sukhoi Su-35S adalah salah satu pesawat tempur terbaik yang menjadi andalan Rusia saat ini. Pesawat tempur ini dianggap menjadi lawan sepadan bagi pesawat tempur F-15E Strike Eagle buatan Amerika. Kedua tipe pesawat tempur ini boleh dikawatakan adalah pesawat tempur generasi 4 terbaik hingga saat ini. Dikawasan Asia Tenggara, Singapura sudah memiliki sekitar 40 unit pesawa tempur F-15SG yang merupakan varian dekat F-15E Strike Eagle. Sebagai tetangga dekat Singapura, tentunya kehadiran pesawat tempur canggih ini menjadi perhatian militer Indonesia. Itulah salah satu alasan Indonesia memutuskan membeli 11 unit pesawat tempur Sukhoi Su-35S. Nah sekarang yang menjadi pertanyaan, dari kedua pesawat tempur ini, Sukhoi Su-35S dan F-15SG, yang mana yang paling canggih dan modern? Dan dalam konteks Indonesia dan Singapura, mana lebih unggul pesawat tempur F-15SG Singapura atau Sukhoi Su-35S yang sudah dipesan Indonesia?


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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Sep 3 2019, 08:06 AM)
Buy MiG/Sukhoi from India HAL la.....
on top of palm oil, RMAF get further discount for deporting some Indian national residing in Malaysia  innocent.gif  laugh.gif
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sorry boss

Indian is finishing production MKI even then it CKD kits majority from russia

MKM time, only a few part was sub to HAL but not entire plane. Even then those are internal contract between irkut n HAL. Nothing for us to get involved

It it CKD, might as well do it here assembly. rather than go HAL, HAL get from russian, assembly in india, sell to malaysia
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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 4 2019, 01:09 AM)
sorry boss

Indian is finishing production MKI  even then it CKD kits majority from russia

MKM time, only a few part was sub to HAL but not entire plane. Even then those are internal contract between irkut n HAL. Nothing for us to get involved

It it CKD, might as well do it here assembly. rather than go HAL, HAL get from russian, assembly in india, sell to malaysia
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Indian Air Force inducts 8 new Apache attack choppers, most advanced combat helicopter to boost air force

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has inducted 8 new Apache attack helicopters in its fleet, giving a major boost to the force's fire power.

India Today Web Desk
New Delhi
September 3, 2019
UPDATED: September 3, 2019 13:43 IST

HIGHLIGHTS

• IAF has inducted a batch of 8 new Apache attack helicopters

• Air Force chief BS Dhanoa performed a pooja at the Pathankot airbase before the induction

• India is the 14th nation in the world to be operating the Apache attack helicopters

The Indian Air Force on Tuesday morning inducted 8 Apache helicopters at the Pathankot airbase. The eight fresh US-made Apache AH-64E attack helicopters will give a major boost to the Air Force's combat powers.

Air Force chief Marshal BS Dhanoa was the chief guest at the ceremony at Pathankot airbase. The Air Force chief and Western Air Commander Air Marshal R Nambiar performed a 'pooja' ceremony before the induction at the Pathankot airbase.

India is the 14th nation in the world to be operating the Apache attack helicopters.

IAF spokesperson Anupam Banerjee said, "It is a ceremonial induction of the aircraft into IAF. As of now, we have 8 aircraft. 22 aircraft will come in phased manner and all will be inducted into the IAF. We had attack helicopters earlier, but this aircraft brings in lethal firepower with great accuracy."

The AH-64E Apache is one of the world's most advanced multi-role combat helicopters and is flown by the US Army.

The Apache attack helicopters were given a water salute at the airbase ahead of the induction.

IAF chief Dhanoa said, "The Apache helicopters have been modified according to the needs of the IAF. We are very happy with the scheduled delivery of the helicopters on time."

The IAF had signed a multi-billion dollar contract with the US government and Boeing Ltd in September 2015 for 22 Apache helicopters.


Read more: https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/a...4776-2019-09-03

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what actually happen to this point???last time i heard TNI have electronic surveillance on that part of country to monitor and avoid this kind of protest escalation.. hmm.gif
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what actually happen to this point???last time i heard TNI have electronic surveillance on that part of country to monitor and avoid this kind of protest escalation..   hmm.gif
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I usually don't want to talk about politics and Papua but this has to be clarified. The Guardian is always biased towards Indonesia in its Papua reporting. The Indonesian security were attacked first with 1 TNI killed and 2 Police injured in Deiyai.

https://regional.kompas.com/read/2019/08/28...-polisi-terluka

Currently Papua is quiet and calm.

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So, this will be better than F16ID. No wonder SG asked for an upgrade to F16 viper.

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The Guardian is always biased towards Indonesia in its Papua reporting. The Indonesian security were attacked first with 1 TNI killed and 2 Police injured in Deiyai.

https://regional.kompas.com/read/2019/08/28...-polisi-terluka

Currently Papua is quiet and calm.
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but i thought TNI have surveillance over this kind of things to avoid escalation....so the surveillance failed or someone stir the shit???
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but i thought TNI have surveillance over this kind of things to avoid escalation....so the surveillance failed or someone stir the shit???
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It seems like the Malaysian army is looking to revamp their vehicle fleet with some new or standardized assets. An ad for tender offers have been released for interested parties under 'Pelan Mobiliti Tentera Darat'.

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It seems they are looking for

ATGM carrier
AGL carrier
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Motorcycles for MPs

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Mejar Zahir GGK also known as Anak Badul has passed away in Queen Elizabeth Hospital due to accident during demo

Al-Fatihah dan Salam Takziah

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'We were willing to die to bring back MH17's black boxes', says M'sian covert team commander

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MH17 was shot down on July 17, 2014 en route to Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam, killing all 283 passengers and 15 crew on board.
Published04 SEPTEMBER, 2019UPDATED 04 SEPTEMBER, 2019

KUALA LUMPUR — Recovering the black boxes of downed Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 from war-torn eastern Ukraine was a matter of national dignity for the team now nicknamed the “Dozen Persons”.

“I promised the then prime minister (Datuk Seri Najib Razak) that we’d bring back the black boxes, even if we needed to sacrifice our lives. It was to restore the nation’s dignity,” said Colonel Mohd Sakri Hussin.

Mr Sakri was the commander of the Dozen Persons, the team that was tasked with entering eastern Ukraine covertly to secure the two black boxes of the Boeing 777-200ER and the bodies of the victims following the tragedy on July 17, 2014.

“The PM told me that this was a mission to restore the nation’s dignity. We had lost MH370 only months ago, and now another flight was shot down.

“If the country couldn’t retrieve the black boxes, we would seem weak. So, I told my men that no matter what happened to us, we would make sure the black boxes were retrieved. We were doing it for the country,” he told the New Straits Times recently.

MH17 was shot down en route to Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam, killing all 283 passengers and 15 crew on board.

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The “Dozen Persons” team was tasked with entering eastern Ukraine covertly to secure the two black boxes of the Boeing 777-200ER and the bodies of the victims following the tragedy of MH17 on July 17, 2014. Photo: New Straits Times

Mr Sakri said even though the mission took place five years ago, it was still fresh in his mind.

He said the operation was the most challenging one in his career.

“We had no firearms. We went in empty. All we had were some money (to rent a car), food and medication to pull off the covert operation.

“I joined the armed forces in 1981. I was involved in the Communist Insurgency. When we faced the communists, we could always go in a group and plan the operation.

“This (MH17) operation, we could also plan, but it was different as the rebels could find us, could easily attack us with artillery and we could be gone in a split second,” he said.

Mr Sakri, now senior deputy director (operations department) with the National Disaster Management Agency, said the National Security Council initiated a plan once they learnt about the downing of MH17.

“I was National Security Council principal assistant secretary in 2014. Soon after we learnt MH17 was shot down in Ukraine, the council assembled, called up all relevant agencies and gave assistance on how to proceed with the operation.

“Most arrangements were made by the Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) (now Civil Aviation Authority of Malaysia), but as the agency responsible for security, the council decided to send a team to the crash site as fast as possible.”

He said the team of 115 people departed for the Ukrainian capital of Kiev on July 20 and were warned by the ambassador not to take any action without the permission of the Ukrainian government.

“During the briefing with the ambassador at the hotel (in Kiev), I received a call from my boss stating that the PM wanted to talk to me. The PM told me to initiate a covert mission, a special operation to establish contact with (Ukrainian separatist leader Alexander) Borodai. He gave me two numbers and asked me to contact them.

“After the call with the PM, I dialled one of the numbers given, and because Borodai couldn’t speak English, he passed the phone to his chief of security Sergei (Kavtaradze), who I had the preliminary negotiation with.”

Mr Sakri said he picked 11 men to accompany him to meet the separatists in Donetsk.

The men included armed forces doctors Brigadier-General Datuk Dr Mohd Ilham Haron and Major Dr Mohd Hafizi Abdullah; Kuala Lumpur Hospital pathologist Datuk Dr Mohd Shah Mahmood; and Royal Malaysian Air Force commandos Major Nazri Musman, Major Muhammad Mustafa Omar, Sergeant Shahrizal Abu Bakar, Corporal Rosli Mustafa and Lance Corporal Mohd Afendy Ahmad Zaini.

Also in the team were interpreter Captain Dr Mohd Zainizam Zainal, Special Malaysia Disaster Assistance and Rescue Team member Inspector Abd Rahim Abd Aziz and communications expert Rosli Shaari.

Mr Sakri said the Dozen Persons team left Kiev for Kharkiv in two vans, arriving six hours later, after spending an hour at a checkpoint manned by Ukrainian police.

After a short rest, the team continued on to Donetsk, where the separatists’ headquarters were.

“It took us four hours to make the 140km journey as we had to go through 10 checkpoints guarded by the military. There were two tanks at every checkpoint which were at the ready while we were questioned by soldiers.”

He said the situation at the second last checkpoint was especially tense as the team was held and their passports were seized by soldiers.

“We were all on visitor’s visas. The questions they asked were simple: What’s the purpose of the journey? Have we obtained permission from the government?

“We answered every question honestly and did not try to hide anything.

“We regarded it as a test of our faith from Allah. We did our best and left the rest in God’s hands.”

After finally passing through all the checkpoints, the team arrived at the separatists’ headquarters and immediately began negotiations for MH17’s voice and flight data recorders, the return of all the bodies of the victims, which the rebels had collected and kept in refrigerated train wagons, and for investigators to be allowed to enter the crash site.

“We were constantly communicating with the PM throughout the journey as he was worried. During the conversation with Borodai, I connected him with the PM. The PM thanked Borodai for his cooperation.

“They agreed to all of our requests, but asked for time to complete the documentation process.”

At a press conference later, which was aired live internationally, the recorders were handed over to Mr Sakri, who passed it over to Mr Mustafa, a Royal Malaysian Air Force commando.

Mr Sakri said the black boxes were then kept in a backpack that never left Mustafa’s side.

The wagons carrying the victims’ bodies were later hooked up to a train in nearby Torez and drawn to Kharkiv, arriving seven hours later.

“The train moved very slowly. We could hear lots of interference and movements, even people jumping onto the train throughout the journey. I made sure that all my men were with me and told them we needed to stick together, even after we arrived at the railway station (in Kharkiv).

“When we arrived at the station, the Ukrainian government announced that Malaysia could keep the black boxes.”

In Kharkiv, a United States Federal Bureau of Investigation agent approached Mr Sakri, asking for the black boxes.

“I told him off, saying that they belonged to Malaysia. Then, three legal officers from the Ukrainian government approached us.

“They told us that we violated their laws and that action could be taken against us. I thanked them for the information and told them that regardless of what they did to us, whether they arrested us or killed us, I was not going to hand over the black boxes.”

Mr Sakri said the black boxes were ultimately handed over to the then DCA director-general Datuk Seri Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, who then flew to Farnborough, near London, under the strict control of Malaysian and Dutch security forces for the investigation. NEW STRAITS TIMES
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'We were willing to die to bring back MH17's black boxes', says M'sian covert team commander

REUTERS
MH17 was shot down on July 17, 2014 en route to Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam, killing all 283 passengers and 15 crew on board.
Published04 SEPTEMBER, 2019UPDATED 04 SEPTEMBER, 2019

KUALA LUMPUR — Recovering the black boxes of downed Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 from war-torn eastern Ukraine was a matter of national dignity for the team now nicknamed the “Dozen Persons”.

“I promised the then prime minister (Datuk Seri Najib Razak) that we’d bring back the black boxes, even if we needed to sacrifice our lives. It was to restore the nation’s dignity,” said Colonel Mohd Sakri Hussin.

Mr Sakri was the commander of the Dozen Persons, the team that was tasked with entering eastern Ukraine covertly to secure the two black boxes of the Boeing 777-200ER and the bodies of the victims following the tragedy on July 17, 2014.

“The PM told me that this was a mission to restore the nation’s dignity. We had lost MH370 only months ago, and now another flight was shot down.

“If the country couldn’t retrieve the black boxes, we would seem weak. So, I told my men that no matter what happened to us, we would make sure the black boxes were retrieved. We were doing it for the country,” he told the New Straits Times recently.

MH17 was shot down en route to Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam, killing all 283 passengers and 15 crew on board.

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The “Dozen Persons” team was tasked with entering eastern Ukraine covertly to secure the two black boxes of the Boeing 777-200ER and the bodies of the victims following the tragedy of MH17 on July 17, 2014. Photo: New Straits Times

Mr Sakri said even though the mission took place five years ago, it was still fresh in his mind.

He said the operation was the most challenging one in his career.

“We had no firearms. We went in empty. All we had were some money (to rent a car), food and medication to pull off the covert operation.

“I joined the armed forces in 1981. I was involved in the Communist Insurgency. When we faced the communists, we could always go in a group and plan the operation.

“This (MH17) operation, we could also plan, but it was different as the rebels could find us, could easily attack us with artillery and we could be gone in a split second,” he said.

Mr Sakri, now senior deputy director (operations department) with the National Disaster Management Agency, said the National Security Council initiated a plan once they learnt about the downing of MH17.

“I was National Security Council principal assistant secretary in 2014. Soon after we learnt MH17 was shot down in Ukraine, the council assembled, called up all relevant agencies and gave assistance on how to proceed with the operation.

“Most arrangements were made by the Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) (now Civil Aviation Authority of Malaysia), but as the agency responsible for security, the council decided to send a team to the crash site as fast as possible.”

He said the team of 115 people departed for the Ukrainian capital of Kiev on July 20 and were warned by the ambassador not to take any action without the permission of the Ukrainian government.

“During the briefing with the ambassador at the hotel (in Kiev), I received a call from my boss stating that the PM wanted to talk to me. The PM told me to initiate a covert mission, a special operation to establish contact with (Ukrainian separatist leader Alexander) Borodai. He gave me two numbers and asked me to contact them.

“After the call with the PM, I dialled one of the numbers given, and because Borodai couldn’t speak English, he passed the phone to his chief of security Sergei (Kavtaradze), who I had the preliminary negotiation with.”

Mr Sakri said he picked 11 men to accompany him to meet the separatists in Donetsk.

The men included armed forces doctors Brigadier-General Datuk Dr Mohd Ilham Haron and Major Dr Mohd Hafizi Abdullah; Kuala Lumpur Hospital pathologist Datuk Dr Mohd Shah Mahmood; and Royal Malaysian Air Force commandos Major Nazri Musman, Major Muhammad Mustafa Omar, Sergeant Shahrizal Abu Bakar, Corporal Rosli Mustafa and Lance Corporal Mohd Afendy Ahmad Zaini.

Also in the team were interpreter Captain Dr Mohd Zainizam Zainal, Special Malaysia Disaster Assistance and Rescue Team member Inspector Abd Rahim Abd Aziz and communications expert Rosli Shaari.

Mr Sakri said the Dozen Persons team left Kiev for Kharkiv in two vans, arriving six hours later, after spending an hour at a checkpoint manned by Ukrainian police.

After a short rest, the team continued on to Donetsk, where the separatists’ headquarters were.

“It took us four hours to make the 140km journey as we had to go through 10 checkpoints guarded by the military. There were two tanks at every checkpoint which were at the ready while we were questioned by soldiers.”

He said the situation at the second last checkpoint was especially tense as the team was held and their passports were seized by soldiers.

“We were all on visitor’s visas. The questions they asked were simple: What’s the purpose of the journey? Have we obtained permission from the government?

“We answered every question honestly and did not try to hide anything.

“We regarded it as a test of our faith from Allah. We did our best and left the rest in God’s hands.”

After finally passing through all the checkpoints, the team arrived at the separatists’ headquarters and immediately began negotiations for MH17’s voice and flight data recorders, the return of all the bodies of the victims, which the rebels had collected and kept in refrigerated train wagons, and for investigators to be allowed to enter the crash site.

“We were constantly communicating with the PM throughout the journey as he was worried. During the conversation with Borodai, I connected him with the PM. The PM thanked Borodai for his cooperation.

“They agreed to all of our requests, but asked for time to complete the documentation process.”

At a press conference later, which was aired live internationally, the recorders were handed over to Mr Sakri, who passed it over to Mr Mustafa, a Royal Malaysian Air Force commando.

Mr Sakri said the black boxes were then kept in a backpack that never left Mustafa’s side.

The wagons carrying the victims’ bodies were later hooked up to a train in nearby Torez and drawn to Kharkiv, arriving seven hours later.

“The train moved very slowly. We could hear lots of interference and movements, even people jumping onto the train throughout the journey. I made sure that all my men were with me and told them we needed to stick together, even after we arrived at the railway station (in Kharkiv).

“When we arrived at the station, the Ukrainian government announced that Malaysia could keep the black boxes.”

In Kharkiv, a United States Federal Bureau of Investigation agent approached Mr Sakri, asking for the black boxes.

“I told him off, saying that they belonged to Malaysia. Then, three legal officers from the Ukrainian government approached us.

“They told us that we violated their laws and that action could be taken against us. I thanked them for the information and told them that regardless of what they did to us, whether they arrested us or killed us, I was not going to hand over the black boxes.”

Mr Sakri said the black boxes were ultimately handed over to the then DCA director-general Datuk Seri Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, who then flew to Farnborough, near London, under the strict control of Malaysian and Dutch security forces for the investigation. NEW STRAITS TIMES
Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/world/we-were-w...-team-commander
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 4 2019, 11:23 AM)
Dengan penuh rasa sedih saya ingin memberi tahu bahawa

Mejar Zahir GGK also known as Anak Badul has passed away in Queen Elizabeth Hospital due to accident during demo

Al-Fatihah dan Salam Takziah

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innalillah....semaga arwah ditempat di kalangan orang beriman...

macam mana jadi accident tu??
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'We were willing to die to bring back MH17's black boxes', says M'sian covert team commander

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MH17 was shot down on July 17, 2014 en route to Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam, killing all 283 passengers and 15 crew on board.
Published04 SEPTEMBER, 2019UPDATED 04 SEPTEMBER, 2019

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the bad is when it happen,some politician doubt we are able to send a team at fast to respond and deal things...some even ridicule it...and even worse is some of politician who doubt and ridicule now in the govt at helm....hope they learn more and become mature...
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 4 2019, 11:23 AM)
Dengan penuh rasa sedih saya ingin memberi tahu bahawa

Mejar Zahir GGK also known as Anak Badul has passed away in Queen Elizabeth Hospital due to accident during demo

Al-Fatihah dan Salam Takziah

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RIP. Condolence to the family.
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Sep 4 2019, 11:43 AM)
innalillah....semaga arwah ditempat di kalangan orang beriman...

macam mana jadi accident tu??
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from early report he was suppose to be hit at the plate at the back, but his buddy shotting is about 1 or half inch above the plate hence at the back of the neck

QUOTE(zacky chan @ Sep 4 2019, 11:48 AM)
the bad is when it happen,some politician doubt we are able to send a team at fast to respond and deal things...some even ridicule it...and even worse is some of politician who doubt and ridicule now in the govt at helm....hope they learn more and become mature...
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tu belum part ridicule Kol Sakri english lagi waktu press conference during receiving of the balck box
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 4 2019, 11:23 AM)
Dengan penuh rasa sedih saya ingin memberi tahu bahawa

Mejar Zahir GGK also known as Anak Badul has passed away in Queen Elizabeth Hospital due to accident during demo

Al-Fatihah dan Salam Takziah

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RIP

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'We were willing to die to bring back MH17's black boxes', says M'sian covert team commander

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 4 2019, 11:23 AM)
Dengan penuh rasa sedih saya ingin memberi tahu bahawa

Mejar Zahir GGK also known as Anak Badul has passed away in Queen Elizabeth Hospital due to accident during demo

Al-Fatihah dan Salam Takziah

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Al-Fatihah..... takziah. Such a great lost to the nation. A very specialised GGK officer

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from early report he was suppose to be hit at the plate at the back, but his buddy shotting is about 1 or half inch above the plate hence at the back of the neck

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Given to the AAIB

QUOTE(LTZ @ Sep 4 2019, 12:14 PM)
Al-Fatihah..... takziah. Such a great lost to the nation. A very specialised GGK officer
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Itu la, yg buddy dia Lt. Kol Razahar Jerung
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Israel To Modernise Ukrainian MiG-29 Jets For $440M drool.gif

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Eleven of Ukraine’s MiG-29 fighters could be armed with advanced weapons along with receiving new capabilities owing to Israel’s offer of modernising the Russian-origin aircraft at a total cost of $440 million, according to a report.

“The winged craft will receive fundamentally new capabilities and the latest weapons for airborne warfare. The upgrades could cost about $440 million, at $40 million per fighter,” a source in the Ukrainian Defense Ministry was quoted as saying by Defense Industry Courier on August 28.

“Israeli firm Elbit Systems could be responsible for the upgrades,” the source added.

The source also mentioned that the contract has not yet been signed, and negotiations are still underway.

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Poland also seems to be considering the upgrade of its MiG-29s by Ukraine at a cost of about $1 million per jet. Modernization works will be carried out at the capacities of Lviv Aviation Repair Plant. The NATO-member state is eyeing this "inexpensive” option, after its purchase of used F-16s from the US for over $3 billon "was unsatisfactory" in terms of improving air superiority, a report by the same publication said.


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Given to the AAIB
Itu la, yg buddy dia Lt. Kol Razahar Jerung
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Both sharpshooter tu... dah nk jadi kan....sedih dengar
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SHAH ALAM: Going, Going, Gone. The government wants to cancel the deal for the MD530G light scout attack helicopter and the MH109A5 self propelled howitzer.

It is unclear why they want to cancel both contracts though this is likely due to the review ordered by the current government shortly after taking over Putrajaya following the general elections last year.


http://www.malaysiandefence.com/going-going-gone/

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really hope the govt know what they doing....MD530G is good heli for task at esscom...

hope mindef give good reason for it
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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Sep 4 2019, 01:56 PM)
really hope the govt know what they doing....MD530G is good heli for task at esscom...
hope mindef give good reason for it
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most likely from the top not mindef
really weird timing considering that today drM arrive in ruskiland to nego with putin
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post Sep 4 2019, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Sep 4 2019, 02:12 PM)
most likely from the top not mindef
really weird timing considering that today drM arrive in ruskiland to nego with putin
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post Sep 4 2019, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Sep 4 2019, 02:12 PM)
most likely from the top not mindef
really weird timing considering that today drM arrive in ruskiland to nego with putin
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Are we getting Mig 35, Yak 130, T72 Polen invasion edition, and Mi 24? biggrin.gif
Seriously though, do the ruskies even have something ala the Loch or MD350? hmm.gif
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post Sep 4 2019, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 4 2019, 11:23 AM)
Dengan penuh rasa sedih saya ingin memberi tahu bahawa

Mejar Zahir GGK also known as Anak Badul has passed away in Queen Elizabeth Hospital due to accident during demo

Al-Fatihah dan Salam Takziah

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all GGK colours will be hang at half mast from now till further notice
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Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi raji'un. Condolences to the family.
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post Sep 6 2019, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 4 2019, 12:15 PM)
Given to the AAIB
Itu la, yg buddy dia Lt. Kol Razahar Jerung
CO21 x silap
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Is it one those russian style confidence drills?
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post Sep 6 2019, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 6 2019, 10:41 AM)
KF-X Fighter Jet CGI Video.


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looks like this
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post Sep 6 2019, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Sep 4 2019, 01:56 PM)
really hope the govt know what they doing....MD530G is good heli for task at esscom...

hope mindef give good reason for it
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It’s a short range helicopter ?

Thought we need long range capability for our east msia coast
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post Sep 6 2019, 10:02 AM

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post Sep 6 2019, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(harumanis_man @ Sep 6 2019, 09:28 AM)
It’s a short range helicopter ?

Thought we need long range capability for our east msia coast
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its was suppose to be used as one of element in esscom respond including the fast boat...it suppose to go,analyze target with e/o cam and decide to engage or not..

would there be a better heli for the job???yes there is and i'm all for apache AH...problem is budget not just to buy one but for maintenance and training...so we settle with MD530G...with in its family, its most up to date so far....

watch the video here
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/defence-..._Mdrkjq90SZUJ6c

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