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Frozen_Sun
post Jul 7 2019, 03:26 PM

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First post at new thread...

Good animated map on East Front...there are already newer videos until 1944/1945


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post Jul 20 2019, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Jul 20 2019, 12:04 AM)
Turkey’s ATAK helicopter sale to Pakistan stalled over missing engines - SoL

The sale of Turkish-made T129 ATAK helicopter gunships to Pakistan has hit a stumbling block as no engines have been found for the gunships after the United States failed to issue the permit required for their delivery, communist news site SoL reported on Wednesday.

Turkey and Pakistan signed a $1.5 billion deal for the Turkish-made helicopter gunships on July 13, 2018. The delivery date of the first helicopter was pushed back after the U.S. Department of Defence last year refused to issue the Turkish company with an export license for the delivery of the gunships’ CTS800 engines.

Producers in France and Poland are being considered as potential suppliers of the engine, according to Hürriyet newspaper.

Meanwhile, 41 ATAK helicopters have been delivered to the Turkish Land Forces Command and six to the Gendarmerie General Command, SoL said.

The deal between Ankara and Islamabad sees for the delivery of 30 T129 ATAK helicopters to Pakistan. Pakistan’s current AH-1F Cobra gunships lack the capability to perform adequately over the higher altitudes of the Hindu Kush mountain range, separating Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to the country’s officials.

https://ahvalnews.com/atak/turkeys-atak-hel...ing-engines-sol
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Turbomecca Makila is a good option....widely available and have higher average power output too
Frozen_Sun
post Jul 23 2019, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Jul 22 2019, 09:31 PM)
If got US components then difficult for Turbomecca Makila too.
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Then use Klimov engines....well proven for decades for Mil helicopters.....perhaps Klimov TV3-117 just like for Mi-28
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post Aug 5 2019, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 5 2019, 01:35 AM)
One of the best tv series no doubt


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Spot two casts with indonesian names....Heriyanto and Siregar laugh.gif

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post Aug 6 2019, 01:37 PM

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If there's only one gun...less than 180 degrees traverse shouldn't be a big problem...

I'm sure a small boat can change heading quicker than the rate of gun traverse
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post Aug 6 2019, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Aug 6 2019, 02:25 PM)
Well, the turret does look like its located in a recess in the superstructure instead of freestanding. hmm.gif
compared to this
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These ships likely use Burevestnik A-220M 57mm cannon...just like the one used by previous KCR-60M boats to replace the 40mm Bofors
It's compact enough....
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there should be enough room for it....this KRI 628, also a KCR-60M still with 40mm Bofors

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Aug 6 2019, 02:55 PM)
-90 to +90 la

180 is this laugh.gif

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I know la.... 90 degree port + 90 degree starboard =180 degrees....it's the same thing
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post Aug 8 2019, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 8 2019, 06:47 PM)


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IMO bridges in SE Asia could not withstand the weight of heavy tanks such as Leopard 2s is just a myth.
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Also, when an enemy invades....they will use this road....not off-road....So, just a couple of MBTs, perhaps with a couple more as backup can effectively block this road....especially when positioned near a blind corner
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post Aug 9 2019, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Aug 9 2019, 07:53 AM)
then if enemy strafe from above, the MBTs can help their fellow MBTs get caught in a jam and becoming sitting duck like Iraq's highway to hell biggrin.gif
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Or....we the one who has local air superiority,,,making it easier to defend.

But most of the time, air assets won't intervene in these small skirmishes....unless a brigade- or division-sized formations are detected moving on highway or plains

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Aug 9 2019, 08:20 AM)
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In this role, I prefer lighter vehicle with ATGM. Shoot and scoot. laugh.gif
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I think...gun is more reliable...it's actually possible for the enemy to dodge an ATGM when the crews are very alert and laser warning receiver is enabled...because it's slow at around 300 m/s.

During wartime situation, ATGM can be less accurate, because the target is obscured by smoke or it's already night time. Not all ATGM crews have FLIR or NVS sights.

For modern tanks, FLIR or NVS sight is already a standard equipment.

Also, light vehicles is still vulnerable....some stray 50 cal rounds can penetrate the armor....because usually they have only STANAG 3 or less protection
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post Aug 9 2019, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Aug 9 2019, 11:54 AM)
IIRC nearly all of the big-name ATGM launchers (TOW, Javelin, Kornet, MILAN) have both NV & FLIR. Even older ones have NV at least.
That's why some forces even use the launchers (sans missiles) as makeshift recon/observation gear.  The TOW's FLIR camera can zoom up to 24x, making it an extremely good observation platform in all conditions.
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OK....let's assume ATGM vehicles have good sights.....then it depends on the strategy

If the defender is willing to relinquish a lot of territory, then hit and run tactic is acceptable.

But, if an area needs to be held at all cost, I think properly positioned MBTs should be better. Even better if there are reserve units for immediate counter attack if a point is captured by the enemy. A common aggressive defensive tactic used by German in WW2
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post Aug 16 2019, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Aug 14 2019, 03:08 PM)
treason of the highest degree..
unfortunately its not the first time or the second time this had happened..
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Of course, this also happened in East Timor as well...

There are always people like that...many are willing to lose their lives attacking enemy positions...while logistics staff may got corrupt



QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Aug 14 2019, 10:29 AM)
their track clearing are so sterile... should leave some uneven ground
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There was already mud test a couple of years ago



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post Aug 22 2019, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Aug 21 2019, 08:15 PM)
Indonesia deploys troops to West Papua as protests spread

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Even if West Papua gets independent...they could become another PNG or Timor Leste. Australia and US will steal the resources, like what Australia doing in Timor Leste.

West Papua is heavily subsidized, getting $7bn each year from the government...while the government get $2bn at most from resources from Papua
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post Aug 25 2019, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 24 2019, 06:27 PM)
Video of Indonesian Army Aviation AH-64E Apache Guardian live firing Hellfire Missile.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1irTfHBCPU/
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Still no video of Mi-35P firing Ataka, right?
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post Aug 26 2019, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 26 2019, 12:00 AM)
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/i...opment-11836300

Riots worsen in Pupua. 500,000 people have lost their lives over the years as Pupauans seek liberty and lead normal lives..
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That's highly disputed....no proven of massacre in Papua.

Papuans already lead normal lives with autonomy and led by Papuan local officials....already heavily subsidized, central government get just a little

Cheap western propaganda
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post Aug 26 2019, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Aug 26 2019, 11:55 AM)
Here:

https://thediplomat.com/2014/01/the-human-t...-of-west-papua/

Hope that  is helpful!

To be frank, im shocked. International NGOs should look at this.

In the past couple of months/years, ASEAN was concerned about the Rohingya...but in fact we have a cancer right in the heart of ASEAN.
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Hahaha....what cancer....

Cheap western propaganda....still no proven evidence of massacres....

Today, it's all about infrastructure development in Papua. In fact, each village in Papua gets 300k RM subsidy each year from central government. Of course, western media won't report this....






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post Aug 29 2019, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Aug 29 2019, 01:34 PM)
not that i give a damn about papua (I dont).but the diplomat is an indian newspaper
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Copy from western media
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post Sep 2 2019, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Sep 2 2019, 09:53 AM)
This picture banyak confusing wondering what the hell missile that is sweat.gif
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R-27
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post Sep 2 2019, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Sep 2 2019, 11:07 AM)
Yes, but it looked on mobile like combined with the AA-10 behind biggrin.gif
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Yeah, at first..I thought it's R-27 with booster...made me surprised that there's such version
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post Sep 15 2019, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 12 2019, 11:27 PM)
West Papua groups: Indonesian military is burning our villages

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Rebel settlements need to be demolished.....normal Papuan villages are being developed with dana desa. Now, much better than PNG villages

When road workers and unarmed soldiers are massacred by rebels....western media quiet.

But when rebels are pursued and killed, it's different thing
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post Nov 9 2019, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 8 2019, 07:49 PM)
Despite being a civilian, Mr. Purnomo was one of the best menhan. He was very active in procuring stuff, while Ryamizard was very mediocre.

Let's see whether Prabowo could be the best menhan ever
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post Nov 25 2019, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 23 2019, 08:13 AM)
Good....easier to get Meteor than AIM-120D

It's the era of long range AAM

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