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post Aug 29 2019, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Aug 26 2019, 09:51 PM)
Hahaha....what cancer....

Cheap western propaganda....still no proven evidence of massacres....

Today, it's all about infrastructure development in Papua. In fact, each village in Papua gets 300k RM subsidy each year from central government. Of course, western media won't report this....
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not that i give a damn about papua (I dont).but the diplomat is an indian newspaper
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post Sep 9 2019, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 9 2019, 12:19 PM)
is PGA counted as a gendarmerie unit?
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Technically it's the other way around. gendarmarie is basically army unit (or rather, unit drawn from the army), doing low level policing while pga is basically a paramilitary police but nowadays the roles pretty much overlap. PGA could be mobilized without pm signature and without asking the agong which is the commander in chief
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post Sep 9 2019, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 9 2019, 04:53 PM)
PGA covered under geneva convention then?
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on what?
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post Sep 25 2019, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Sep 24 2019, 07:48 PM)



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just another day in indonesia biggrin.gif
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post Oct 11 2019, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 10 2019, 06:28 PM)
IS radical stabs ex-Indonesian army chief Wiranto

JAKARTA (AFP): An attacker allegedly “exposed to IS radicalism” stabbed Indonesian security minister Wiranto as he was stepping out of a vehicle today, leaving two deep wounds, police said.

“Someone approached and attacked him. The local police chief and Pak (Mr) Wiranto were injured, ” National Police spokesman Dedi Prasetyo said of the attack in Pandeglang on Java island, adding that a man and a woman had been arrested.

Television images showed security officers wrestling the couple to the ground outside a local university after the attack on the 72-year-old Wiranto, who like many Indonesians goes by one name.

Berkah Hospital spokesman Firmansyah said the former military general suffered “two deep wounds”, but was conscious and in stable condition, adding that he would be rushed to the capital Jakarta and may need surgery. - AFP

Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/20...4RU6iv7PDoYY.99


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staged attack to boost popularity?
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post Oct 13 2019, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Oct 13 2019, 01:07 AM)
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post Oct 14 2019, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Oct 14 2019, 03:37 PM)
The KF-X looks somewhat interesting but I do note the lack of DSIs.

I wonder why though.
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prolly because
>the sk engineers simply out of depth
>it's a 4++ gen aircraft so no need for diverterless intake
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post Oct 15 2019, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Oct 15 2019, 11:20 PM)
did they copycat tank design from Command & Conquer: Tiberium Wars game?  blink.gif
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meh polen did this kinda design way earlier
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post Oct 16 2019, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Oct 16 2019, 02:32 AM)
Local military police in Brazil, estate of Pará, inside the Amazon. Using buffalos to patrol because the can outrun criminals in rivers and swampy terrain[/B]
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saw on reddit.... ohmy.gif
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its nothing new. back during the colonial period north borneo constabulary (precursor to police in sabah) also used buffalo due to terrain and because they're too cheap to use horses . they were called the flying squad afaim
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post Oct 29 2019, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Oct 29 2019, 01:47 AM)
We would need a lot of OPVs to 24/7 patrol our SCS EEZ

Then got the rest of our coast also lagi... pinoy side...

If we could get voters to allocate lets say another Rm 5 billion to the annual security budget for this purpose alone, let's say to mass produce and operate those MMEA OPVs... how many could we put into the water?
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Even with the new 3 opv, i can guarantee only one will do patrol at one time, the second one is under maintenance and the third one is on standby. desway ideally we buy stuff like ship, boats or helo in 3s; 2 is a bit of stretch because no backup
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post Oct 30 2019, 10:10 AM

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jeng jeng jeng
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post Nov 15 2019, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(reinloch @ Nov 14 2019, 09:40 PM)
Those aircrafts not all same class. How to compete with each other?
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QUOTE(reinloch @ Nov 14 2019, 09:40 PM)
Those aircrafts not all same class. How to compete with each other?
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QUOTE(joevo2 @ Nov 15 2019, 05:03 PM)
Quite different right the class and pricing? AFAIK Tejas, JF17 and Gripen is not LCA right. What the heck slide is this.
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???

They are all light fighters. Gripen is roughly the same size and carries similar payload to FA-50 while Tejas is actually the smallest of all. JF-17 is the "heaviest" of all the options but they are roughly the same size as F-16 and if you trace F-16 development, they started as LWF (lightweight fighter) programme. Even JF-17 was designed based on J-7/Mig-21.

I think pipu thought just because it's lca it's must be based off a trainer
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post Nov 15 2019, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Nov 15 2019, 09:50 PM)
which one is the most potent and capable fighter?
gripen?
jf17?
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Prolly Gripen NG. Sadly FA-50 potential is nerfed hard by lockmart. Had they approved the AESA radar on FA-50 it'll be close in capability to Gripen C/D
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post Nov 16 2019, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(zacky chan @ Nov 16 2019, 10:26 AM)
kalo mat sabu pegi pastu post dekat social media mesti best....dari dulu dok bising bising kapal selam tak menyelam dan duk dekat port je walaupun sub dah tembak torpedo dan missile pun masih tak percaya    laugh.gif
it think its some where along that line....its been told and told how the LCA must be low cost in operation and maintenance so its never in their mind other than trainer should be contender....plus gripen before have been a candidate for MRCA so people may not expect it fall with in our budget for LCA tho...

i would be surprise if we would buy gripen actually considering the price but then the govt or armed force can use those to get MPA also so its a good trade i think...
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this is why that fella being a defence minister is just :x ... not only no relevant academic background (if there's any), meroyan tah hapa2 time kena soal kt parlimen, his history of undermining the military/LE summore :x:x:x... dah xde orang lain ke nk bg jawatan menhan?

btw Gripen is designed to be 1/3 of f-16 in term of maintenance/opex cost

QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Nov 16 2019, 11:09 AM)
Those trainer-based like L-39 or M-346 and Gripen E/F are worlds apart

Like comparing Hawk and F-16V
Gripen C/D has a very outdated 80s radar so I'd say radarwise at least it's more capable
Sounds most logical

Basically goodbye MRCA, hello Gripen

I don't really have a problem with that, given our economy I've always had major doubts we can sustain a 40+ twin engine MRCA fleet
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Eh in the end of the day it's all about maintenance cost of platform. whether or not they are developed as a trainer or not (which gripen was in the beginning) is irrelevant. else jf-17 and tejas shouldn't even be in the list, which they shouldn't in the first place

Gripen C/D in current configuration is even more capable than FA-50. Gripen can carry much more mission and much more diverse armaments than FA-50. Gripen can do maritime strike, SEAD, BVR interception (+aew ofc) et cetera. Gripen C/D can launch AIM-120 or MICA or even meteor, anti ship missile and even cruise missile. what can FA-50, with equally outdated and inferior radar, do?

this is why i said FA-50 got nerfed hard. not only that lockmard blocked Raytheon offfer to install aesa radar on FA-50, rokaf oso dun feel the need to equip them to match gripen despite its potential of matching gripen becoz of kfx
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post Nov 16 2019, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Nov 16 2019, 01:08 PM)
I'm just saying, the aircraft shown in the slide are very different in capability
I think you're describing the Gripen E/F there...?

ROKAF have the Israeli radar for their FA-50 I thought
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israel radar cost extra. by default they came with apg-67 and there's no way we're getting elta radar

oso this is what gripen c carries

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post Nov 16 2019, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Nov 16 2019, 02:17 PM)
I was talking about ROKAF in that sentence

I know these weapons are what Gripen carries, but to make proper use of them, depends on the sensors and avionics, in which regard the C/D variant is quite outdated
You know I know, Mat Sabu is a blind for LCT biggrin.gif

I'm concerned about ammo stocks and spare parts as well

Brazil's 36-ship Gripen NG deal was a stunning 5.44 billion USD in 2014; in today's dollars that would be 5.9 billion... fikirlah
Thai already have Gripen

Pinoy choice will depend on how well Dutetek eats his words rolleyes.gif
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What is the thing that made them oudated? Because it's not aesa? kek our F/A-18 can do maritime strike and bvr without aesa for long time as we only got aesa for our F/A-18 quite recently. besides the radar in C/D variant is already MkIV (introduced recently) which is almost twice the capability of MkIII, and that's is just due to increased power in today's semiconductor technology
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post Nov 19 2019, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Lampuajaib @ Nov 19 2019, 12:02 AM)
Is this the same LPD for RMN too?
I think RTN already buy endurance class.
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and type 071 from china
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post Nov 19 2019, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Nov 19 2019, 09:26 AM)
Malaysia/Indonesia raya inkambing?  innocent.gif
NATO in SEA against northerners?  laugh.gif
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fuck no
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post Dec 7 2019, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(nasi lemak 20 sen @ Dec 7 2019, 04:14 AM)
actually, you cannot totally blame people also.

ATM presentation very poor. For example, in Lahad Datu pinoy invasion, army chief or something talking also tergagap-gagap in Malay. This I remembered very clear. The press briefing content was about using F18 to neutralize them.

It's perception.
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boy if you think that bad wait until shit hit the fan and people are breathing under mat sabu's neck


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post Dec 13 2019, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Dec 13 2019, 12:33 AM)
kek the reason why china took their sweet time to rebuild liaoning

Also, afaik china oso replace steam turbine engine with commercial gas powered ones. Much more reliable but not as powerful so the speed is around 20knot only

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