I can understand now why TNI preffer 2 sq F-16 then 1sq of F-35.

Sooner or later US will sell F-35 to his "friends" after his "allies"

Correct me if I'm wrong....
There news said indonesia was offered F-16V when they finally picked upgraded F-16 block 30. TNI prefer 24 units than a few units of F-16V with the same price because TNI need quantity over quality.

And also the US tried to sell F-15 to TNI to prevent  buying SU-35. But TNI still chose SU-35 as they already sukhoi operator which I think the real reason is TNI still remembered the hard day when they were embargoed.
Not putting all eggs in one basket is TNI policy. TNI will let their right hand to hold US product while their left hand are free holding anything.

And I think TNI no interest in F-18 SH.

Actually the F-15 and the F-18E/F was among the competitor together with Gripen, Typhoon and Rafale for the TNI-AU F-5 replacement. The frontrunner was the Su-35 which eventually was the winner.

In 2012 based from Janes article Lockheed Martin saw potetntial to sell the F-35 to Indonesia and Thailand.

https://internasional.kompas.com/read/2012/....Potensial.F-35

At least Pinoy can sail with new frigate.
Meanwhile.........delayed for 3 years and must pay extra RM 1.4 billions because already paid RM 6 bilions for incompetent work.

RM 9 billions + RM 1.4 billion = RM 10.4 billions.
TLDM can sail with FREMM with that price tag and can challenge SG formidable class.....hahaha.

biplane can install sidewinder
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Leopard 2RI MBTs of the Indonesian Army 1st Cavalry Battalion Kostrad during exercise in Martapura South Sumatera. Credit to Yonkav 1 Kostrad.

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They are all light fighters. Gripen is roughly the same size and carries similar payload to FA-50 while Tejas is actually the smallest of all. JF-17 is the "heaviest" of all the options but they are roughly the same size as F-16 and if you trace F-16 development, they started as LWF (lightweight fighter) programme. Even JF-17 was designed based on J-7/Mig-21.

I think pipu thought just because it's lca it's must be based off a trainer

Prolly Gripen NG. Sadly FA-50 potential is nerfed hard by lockmart. Had they approved the AESA radar on FA-50 it'll be close in capability to Gripen C/D

if indeed this is the plan 18 + 18, SAAB GRIPEN or KAI FA-50 will be possible.
Hogging The Headlines Again

Eh in the end of the day it's all about maintenance cost of platform. whether or not they are developed  as a trainer or not (which gripen was in the beginning) is irrelevant. else jf-17 and tejas shouldn't even be in the list, which they shouldn't in the first place

Gripen C/D in current configuration is even more capable than FA-50. Gripen can carry much more mission and much more diverse armaments than FA-50. Gripen can do maritime strike, SEAD, BVR interception (+aew ofc) et cetera. Gripen C/D can launch AIM-120 or MICA or even meteor, anti ship missile and even cruise missile. what can FA-50, with equally outdated and inferior radar, do?

this is why i said FA-50 got nerfed hard. not only that lockmard blocked Raytheon offfer to install aesa radar on FA-50, rokaf oso dun feel the need to equip them to match gripen despite its potential of matching gripen becoz of kfx

israel radar cost extra. by default they came with apg-67 and there's no way we're getting elta radar

oso this is what gripen c carries

irony....considering the old oppo keep fuss about how old govt minister was not up to education and experience...and yet new govt minister are also newbie with some  bad/fake certificate....but that is politic...

i'm more concern about the procurement cost of gripen actually...maintenance wise,for a 4th gen fighter,gripen was a good deal....we still dont know how much money will be allocate for LCA...i think we will be lucky if can get 1.5 billion USD for that...but hope it wont be less than 1billion USD...

Pinoy has FA-50. Their first choice must be F-16V.
After SG and indonesia, now it is pinoy turn to procure D-16V. Next could be thai.

What is the thing that made them oudated? Because it's not aesa? kek our F/A-18 can do maritime strike and bvr without aesa for long time as we only got aesa for our F/A-18 quite recently. besides the radar in C/D variant is already MkIV (introduced recently) which is almost twice the capability of MkIII, and that's is just due to increased power in today's semiconductor technology

Thai can upgrade their 52 units of F-16 just as SG does.
IMO, buying gripen is a mistake, RTAF should buy heavy fighter like F-15. Gripen and F-16 are in the same league.

dun have this?

every LIMA air show also got....
but not official ATM.... just some 3rd party selling their own version outside...

also with so many geniuses that like to play dress up as cops....i dont wanna see ATM selling official merch just to have some semak ah beng dress up as Royal Armour corp general, then proclaim membership of "Royal Maressian Army"

Mostly if during lima is pacthes and related t shirts. Some pieces are quite criege worthy in way like you are rocking in paskal/paskau shirt or patches when you are not actually one to begin with.

Some seller just churn it nonstop here and there. Some are more subtile having somethint that is not official product product but yet look good without looking criege.

I do keep some keychain and patches. I do check with seller if it is part of official uniform or else i won't buy it without getting into trouble.

is they know what is conscription or will this be another year long summer camp? 

ya that's why i skipped PLKN....waste of time....
if actual conscription, i'd join.....
but now, propose to make summer camp 1 year long, instead of previous 3 months?
i could be working and contributing to nobitanomics 

*The F35 program office previously shared Sg wants up to 100 F35s. I suspect it will be a mix of As and Bs.

* Similar to Australia, Sg will likely operate the F35s with stealthly armed UCAVs...robot wingman