Prolly Gripen NG. Sadly FA-50 potential is nerfed hard by lockmart. Had they approved the AESA radar on FA-50 it'll be close in capability to Gripen C/D

Camouflaged MKM

The Indonesian Army took delivery of 18 units CAESAR 155mm SPHs.

https://www.janes.com/article/92568/philipp...fighter-options

kalo mat sabu pegi pastu post dekat social media mesti best....dari dulu dok bising bising kapal selam tak menyelam dan duk dekat port je walaupun sub dah tembak torpedo dan missile pun masih tak percaya

it think its some where along that line....its been told and told how the LCA must be low cost in operation and maintenance so its never in their mind other than trainer should be contender....plus gripen before have been a candidate for MRCA so people may not expect it fall with in our budget for LCA tho...

i would be surprise if we would buy gripen actually considering the price but then the govt or armed force can use those to get MPA also so its a good trade i think...

if indeed this is the plan 18 + 18, SAAB GRIPEN or KAI FA-50 will be possible.



Hogging The Headlines Again

go for korea made, then ask for FDI...get those big korean tech company invest here and create job...govt get to create job and RMAF get good LCA....



to me this passage made me died a little....it make me think the next jet fighter procurement will be really late in future despite MKM and hornet should start process to be replace around 2030

Those trainer-based like L-39 or M-346 and Gripen E/F are worlds apart

Like comparing Hawk and F-16V

Gripen C/D has a very outdated 80s radar so I'd say radarwise at least it's more capable

Sounds most logical

Basically goodbye MRCA, hello Gripen

I don't really have a problem with that, given our economy I've always had major doubts we can sustain a 40+ twin engine MRCA fleet

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: Nov 16 2019, 10:10 AM

this is why that fella being a defence minister is just :x ... not only no relevant academic background (if there's any), meroyan tah hapa2 time kena soal kt parlimen, his history of undermining the military/LE summore :x:x:x... dah xde orang lain ke nk bg jawatan menhan?

btw Gripen is designed to be 1/3 of f-16 in term of maintenance/opex cost

Eh in the end of the day it's all about maintenance cost of platform. whether or not they are developed as a trainer or not (which gripen was in the beginning) is irrelevant. else jf-17 and tejas shouldn't even be in the list, which they shouldn't in the first place

Gripen C/D in current configuration is even more capable than FA-50. Gripen can carry much more mission and much more diverse armaments than FA-50. Gripen can do maritime strike, SEAD, BVR interception (+aew ofc) et cetera. Gripen C/D can launch AIM-120 or MICA or even meteor, anti ship missile and even cruise missile. what can FA-50, with equally outdated and inferior radar, do?

this is why i said FA-50 got nerfed hard. not only that lockmard blocked Raytheon offfer to install aesa radar on FA-50, rokaf oso dun feel the need to equip them to match gripen despite its potential of matching gripen becoz of kfx

Indonesian Marine Corps Artillery Regiment in action during TNI Joint Exercise 2019.

New buy?

I'm just saying, the aircraft shown in the slide are very different in capability

I think you're describing the Gripen E/F there...?

ROKAF have the Israeli radar for their FA-50 I thought

why got kids there

almost confirm ?

Yes additional batch.

News of the procurement in 2017:



https://www.army-technology.com/news/newsne...forces-5746132/

This post has been edited by azriel: Nov 16 2019, 12:20 PM

irony....considering the old oppo keep fuss about how old govt minister was not up to education and experience...and yet new govt minister are also newbie with some bad/fake certificate....but that is politic...

i'm more concern about the procurement cost of gripen actually...maintenance wise,for a 4th gen fighter,gripen was a good deal....we still dont know how much money will be allocate for LCA...i think we will be lucky if can get 1.5 billion USD for that...but hope it wont be less than 1billion USD...

future IDF in training maybe...Melentur Buluh Biarlah Dari Rebungnya

Pinoy has FA-50. Their first choice must be F-16V.
After SG and indonesia, now it is pinoy turn to procure D-16V. Next could be thai.

israel radar cost extra. by default they came with apg-67 and there's no way we're getting elta radar

oso this is what gripen c carries

I was talking about ROKAF in that sentence

I know these weapons are what Gripen carries, but to make proper use of them, depends on the sensors and avionics, in which regard the C/D variant is quite outdated

You know I know, Mat Sabu is a blind for LCT

I'm concerned about ammo stocks and spare parts as well

Brazil's 36-ship Gripen NG deal was a stunning 5.44 billion USD in 2014; in today's dollars that would be 5.9 billion... fikirlah

Thai already have Gripen

Pinoy choice will depend on how well Dutetek eats his words

What is the thing that made them oudated? Because it's not aesa? kek our F/A-18 can do maritime strike and bvr without aesa for long time as we only got aesa for our F/A-18 quite recently. besides the radar in C/D variant is already MkIV (introduced recently) which is almost twice the capability of MkIII, and that's is just due to increased power in today's semiconductor technology