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post May 28 2020, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 28 2020, 07:39 PM)
1. Main reason is Y540 don't have 144Hz for customization anymore
2. According to some previous buyers, other bank card also will work, not sure why
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I'm also interested in the Legion 5i, 1660Ti variant. I checked the tech specs on Lenovo's website it says: "Up to 15.6" FHD IPS (1920 x 1080), 500 nits, 240Hz, <1ms response time, 100% sRGB, VESA DisplayHDR 400 certified, Dolby Vision™ enabled"

I tried adding it to cart, screenshot below:

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The display type is "Display Type: 15.6"FHD IPS AntiGlare LED Backlight Narrow Bezel 100%sRGB 1920x1080", but it didn't specify refresh rate. Do all variants have 240Hz including this one? The tech specs above say 'Up to' so I'm not sure.
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post May 28 2020, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(NYCheesecake @ May 28 2020, 08:24 PM)
I'm also interested in the Legion 5i, 1660Ti variant. I checked the tech specs on Lenovo's website it says: "Up to 15.6" FHD IPS (1920 x 1080), 500 nits, 240Hz, <1ms response time, 100% sRGB, VESA DisplayHDR 400 certified, Dolby Vision™ enabled"

I tried adding it to cart, screenshot below:

user posted image

The display type is "Display Type: 15.6"FHD IPS AntiGlare LED Backlight Narrow Bezel 100%sRGB 1920x1080", but it didn't specify refresh rate. Do all variants have 240Hz including this one? The tech specs above say 'Up to' so I'm not sure.
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I don't think Legion 5i got 240Hz option actually, even though spec sheet stated so

All 5i models currently selling are with 144Hz 100%sRGB
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post May 29 2020, 12:08 AM

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Hi there ,

Just to ask that does 45% NTSC ( ~60% sRGB ) laptop screen suitable for light Photoshop-ing ?


By the way , I am referring to Asus TUF A15 .
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 28 2020, 10:50 PM)
I don't think Legion 5i got 240Hz option actually, even though spec sheet stated so

All 5i models currently selling are with 144Hz 100%sRGB
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1) I see. Is there a way to test/verify the refresh rate and sRGB when the laptop arrives?

2) Also I heard about Ryzen 4000 laptops that offers better price-performance in a month's time or two. Or would this "Lenovo Legion 5i 15 81Y6005JMJ 1660Ti" is actually already a good choice?
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 28 2020, 10:50 PM)
I don't think Legion 5i got 240Hz option actually, even though spec sheet stated so

All 5i models currently selling are with 144Hz 100%sRGB
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QUOTE(NYCheesecake @ May 29 2020, 12:54 AM)
1) I see. Is there a way to test/verify the refresh rate and sRGB when the laptop arrives?

2) Also I heard about Ryzen 4000 laptops that offers better price-performance in a month's time or two. Or would this "Lenovo Legion 5i 15 81Y6005JMJ 1660Ti" is actually already a good choice?
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Also in the other gaming laptops approval list thread, you mentioned that the Lenovo Legion 5i 15 is 144Hz 72%. May i know the 72% is referring to the sRGB? I thought you mentioned that all 5i models are currently 100% sRGB. Thanks
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post May 29 2020, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(Leejames2305 @ May 29 2020, 12:08 AM)
Hi there ,

Just to ask that does 45% NTSC ( ~60% sRGB ) laptop screen suitable for light Photoshop-ing ?
By the way , I am referring to Asus TUF A15 .
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Would suggest high sRGB for colour sensitive work

A15 has poor cooling, not recommended
QUOTE(NYCheesecake @ May 29 2020, 12:54 AM)
1) I see. Is there a way to test/verify the refresh rate and sRGB when the laptop arrives?

2) Also I heard about Ryzen 4000 laptops that offers better price-performance in a month's time or two. Or would this "Lenovo Legion 5i 15 81Y6005JMJ 1660Ti" is actually already a good choice?
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1. Yes, you can check panel model and panel quality without professional testing tool (I can guide you)
2. Ryzen 4000 mobile offers more multi core performance at a cheaper price, also better power efficiency (reduce heat output, increase battery life). However it's not without weaknesses. But overall it's a better package for laptops IMO. If your priority is gaming, i7+1660Ti would be good
QUOTE(NYCheesecake @ May 29 2020, 03:31 AM)
Also in the other gaming laptops approval list thread, you mentioned that the Lenovo Legion 5i 15 is 144Hz 72%. May i know the 72% is referring to the sRGB? I thought you mentioned that all 5i models are currently 100% sRGB. Thanks
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72% NTSC, about >90% sRGB aka high sRGB. Sorry for the confusion
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post May 29 2020, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 29 2020, 11:00 AM)
Would suggest high sRGB for colour sensitive work

A15 has poor cooling, not recommended
Thanks for your suggestions .
I am considering a lower spec version of A15 ( R5 4600H and Gtx 1650ti ) , will this configuration have thermal issue ? I know R9 + RTX2060 variant is not gonna run cool in this laptop .
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QUOTE(Leejames2305 @ May 29 2020, 12:12 PM)
Thanks for your suggestions .
I am considering a lower spec version of A15 ( R5 4600H and Gtx 1650ti ) , will this configuration have thermal issue ? I know R9 + RTX2060 variant is not gonna run cool in this laptop .
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Thermals are just OK in lower end config, suggest going for Legion 5 if you want similar specs
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 29 2020, 11:00 AM)

1. Yes, you can check panel model and panel quality without professional testing tool (I can guide you)
2. Ryzen 4000 mobile offers more multi core performance at a cheaper price, also better power efficiency (reduce heat output, increase battery life). However it's not without weaknesses. But overall it's a better package for laptops IMO. If your priority is gaming, i7+1660Ti would be good

72% NTSC, about >90% sRGB aka high sRGB. Sorry for the confusion
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Thanks for the insights.

1) I see, what weakness are you referring to?

2) My priority is gaming > programming with IDEs, running Unity or Unreal Engine > little bit of PhotoShop, Illustrator or Premiere video editing. Would you say I should wait for the Ryzen 4000 laptops? If so, may i know when they would be released (estimated), and what model should I look out for?

3) How are the thermals/heat output and battery life for the Legion 5i i7+1660Ti?
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1. Budget : 3k
2. Usage : College student (course: IT)
3. Decent battery life.
4. Processor i5

hi..
im looking for laptop..
my preference
- below 2kg
- last at least 6-8hrs..
- IT student
- budget 3k
- i5 core onwards
- ssd
- 4G ram and upgradable to maybe 8G or more

i saw asus vivobook A412. this model isit ok?

Thanks.
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post May 29 2020, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(NYCheesecake @ May 29 2020, 03:38 PM)
Thanks for the insights.

1) I see, what weakness are you referring to?

2) My priority is gaming > programming with IDEs, running Unity or Unreal Engine > little bit of PhotoShop, Illustrator or Premiere video editing. Would you say I should wait for the Ryzen 4000 laptops? If so, may i know when they would be released (estimated), and what model should I look out for?

3) How are the thermals/heat output and battery life for the Legion 5i i7+1660Ti?
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1. 7nm has poorer heat dissipation, no Quicksync (which might be beneficial in some workloads, eg most Adobe programs), driver stability still a bit inconsistent, gaming performance slightly hampered by CCX latency despite higher IPC etc
2. You mean Ryzen 4000 laptops with 1660Ti/2060?
3. I have a google drive link of all the thermal data (for new Legion) I've gathered so far, can send you if you want. For 60Wh, expect 4-5 hrs of light usage. 80Wh probably around 7 hrs
QUOTE(Jo198 @ May 29 2020, 05:33 PM)
1. Budget : 3k
2. Usage : College student (course: IT)
3. Decent battery life.
4. Processor i5

hi..
im looking for laptop..
my preference
- below 2kg
- last at least 6-8hrs..
- IT student
- budget 3k
- i5 core onwards
- ssd
- 4G ram and upgradable to maybe 8G or more

i saw asus vivobook A412. this model isit ok?

Thanks.
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Avoid A412

Are you able to wait or need a laptop now?

This post has been edited by ZM Fong: May 29 2020, 07:35 PM
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post May 29 2020, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 29 2020, 07:33 PM)

1. Yes I'm referring to the Ryzen 4000 laptops with 1660Ti. With my priority being highest to lowest: gaming > programming with IDEs, running Unity or Unreal Engine > little bit of PhotoShop, Illustrator or Premiere video editing, should I go for the Ryzen 4000 + 1660Ti or the i7 + 1660Ti? My budget can go for the i7 model, but I thought if Ryzen 4000 is good enough for my usage, then can save some money.

2. The thermal data would be great! But in summary, the thermals for both Legion 5i Ryzen 4000 + 1660Ti and i7+1660Ti good?
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post May 30 2020, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(NYCheesecake @ May 29 2020, 08:28 PM)

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Actually there are aldy models with Ryzen 4000+1660Ti/2060, it just that none of them I would call 'decent'. You'll lost a bit of performance in games and Adobe programs with Ryzen, but it would be cheaper. The choice is yours

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ifsxRRnARf...iew?usp=sharing
Still pending data from 5i 1660Ti/2060 (haven't officially selling yet in China, therefore no reviews). Expect slightly better results compared to last gen Y540/Y7000SE
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 30 2020, 11:38 AM)
Actually there are aldy models with Ryzen 4000+1660Ti/2060, it just that none of them I would call 'decent'. You'll lost a bit of performance in games and Adobe programs with Ryzen, but it would be cheaper. The choice is yours

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ifsxRRnARf...iew?usp=sharing
Still pending data from 5i 1660Ti/2060 (haven't officially selling yet in China, therefore no reviews). Expect slightly better results compared to last gen Y540/Y7000SE
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Alright, thanks a lot for the insights.
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Hey guys, planning to buy a laptop for my parents.

Main usage
Spreadsheet
Web browsing
Decent battery life

Budget around 3k

14” and above


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post May 30 2020, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(munk3y @ May 30 2020, 12:55 PM)
Hey guys, planning to buy a laptop for my parents.

Main usage
Spreadsheet
Web browsing
Decent battery life

Budget around 3k

14” and above
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Fine with low sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM? Able to hold on purchase or need laptop now?
QUOTE(NYCheesecake @ May 30 2020, 12:17 PM)
Alright, thanks a lot for the insights.
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You're welcome

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 30 2020, 01:03 PM)
Fine with low sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM? Able to hold on purchase or need laptop now?

You're welcome
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Fine with low srgb, prefer upgradeable ram, if non upgradeable prefer 8gb and above, and planning to purchase this weekend.
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post May 30 2020, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(munk3y @ May 30 2020, 01:17 PM)
Fine with low srgb, prefer upgradeable ram, if non upgradeable prefer 8gb and above, and planning to purchase this weekend.
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Lenovo Ideapad S540-14IWL 81ND006XMJ / YMJ (x1 upgradeable slot, x1 soldered)
Lenovo Ideapad 530s 14 81EU00NRMJ/SMJ/TMJ (x1 upgradeable slot, single channel)
Acer Swift 3 SF314-41-R5UP/R3AS +RAM (x1 upgradeable slot, x1 soldered)

All 14 inch
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 29 2020, 07:33 PM)
1. 7nm has poorer heat dissipation, no Quicksync (which might be beneficial in some workloads, eg most Adobe programs), driver stability still a bit inconsistent, gaming performance slightly hampered by CCX latency despite higher IPC etc
2. You mean Ryzen 4000 laptops with 1660Ti/2060?
3. I have a google drive link of all the thermal data (for new Legion) I've gathered so far, can send you if you want. For 60Wh, expect 4-5 hrs of light usage. 80Wh probably around 7 hrs

Avoid A412

Are you able to wait or need a laptop now?
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Thanks for ur advice ZM Fong. May I know if wait - need how long ya?

Thanks
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post May 30 2020, 03:20 PM

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Inspiron 15 5000 Laptop (5593)
https://www.dell.com/en-my/shop/laptops-and...5160552413myw10

Inspiron 15 3000 Laptop (3593)
https://www.dell.com/en-my/shop/laptops-and...516055149bmyw10

Can anyone explains to me which one is better? Both are priced at RM2999. Is Vostro better than Inspiron? Currently looking at Inspiron cuz of its 15.6" screensize.

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