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edloh2k
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May 23 2008, 01:46 PM
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hihi i'm new in painting
i have the mr.color with the trojan cap...dun know wat is call ler...heheee
can i mix it with zebra thinner ?? cos i wan to use with my brush ma....
wat should i mix it to make it easy for brush ?
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zoidx_chung
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May 23 2008, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(edloh2k @ May 23 2008, 01:46 PM) hihi i'm new in painting i have the mr.color with the trojan cap...dun know wat is call ler...heheee can i mix it with zebra thinner ?? cos i wan to use with my brush ma.... wat should i mix it to make it easy for brush ? use mr. thinner... if use zebra thinner, later ur model melt~
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edloh2k
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May 23 2008, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ May 23 2008, 01:59 PM) use mr. thinner... if use zebra thinner, later ur model melt~ oic..thks...but mr. thinner is expensive ler any other thinner or something cheaper solution else like water ???
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0300078
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May 23 2008, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(edloh2k @ May 23 2008, 02:54 PM) oic..thks...but mr. thinner is expensive ler any other thinner or something cheaper solution else like water ??? no, unless u want to destroy ur model
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edwardgsk
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May 23 2008, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(KiLLer^Boy @ May 23 2008, 12:02 PM) guys just wondering i just bought a model and i love tat model very much.. but i dont have much experience in assemble and painting the model, i have tried doing it b4 but it is not what i have expected in the end. lol I dont wish to spoilt this new model of mine.. so is there a service tat can pay some ppl tat are good to help in the assemble and painting ?? where are u from? i don believe theres any states in malaysia that doesn't has at least one modelling shop with someone who can build model le... u can try go ask for help from them lor... a little payment may be needed bah.... to find modeller very easy just try to post for modeller hiring at various modelling forum and look for recomendation bah. i think this is the best idea... can u at least tell me what model is that?
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edwardgsk
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May 23 2008, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(edloh2k @ May 23 2008, 02:54 PM) oic..thks...but mr. thinner is expensive ler any other thinner or something cheaper solution else like water ??? aiyo go buy zippo fluid lor... cost RM6.50 per bottle only (metal bottle) and safe to use with any kits....
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z3r0717
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May 23 2008, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ May 23 2008, 10:39 PM) aiyo go buy zippo fluid lor... cost RM6.50 per bottle only (metal bottle) and safe to use with any kits....  this is for enamel paints... but becareful, as it will eat ur paint.... though not very noticeable but careful also.. i kena a lot liao
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edwardgsk
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May 24 2008, 01:27 AM
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wat u mean it will eat paint? i use so much ad still doesn see any effect also
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Lucifer_Light
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May 24 2008, 09:51 AM
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I used acrylic paint to paint my model and after that I sprayed lacquer over it so it becomes non-water soluble, but then I noticed got biji biji forming on my paint. My paint is black, and the biji biji is white, so my black runway suddenly become like the sky, got white stars, haha.
What am I doing wrong?
PS: Acrylic paint is so hard to use. I rather use enamel, but then again, my personal choice. Just wondering, can I spray the lacquer over the enamel? The hobbyman in my hobby shop said can, but I doubtful...
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zeraato
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May 24 2008, 11:09 AM
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the "biji biji" is the sign that tells you the paint is acting like a corrosive agent due to the thinner mixture. or in other words...
its melting.
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z3r0717
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May 24 2008, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ May 24 2008, 01:27 AM) wat u mean it will eat paint? i use so much ad still doesn see any effect also means ur 1st layer of paint will melt off.... as i said becareful and it is not very noticeable QUOTE(Lucifer_Light @ May 24 2008, 09:51 AM) I used acrylic paint to paint my model and after that I sprayed lacquer over it so it becomes non-water soluble, but then I noticed got biji biji forming on my paint. My paint is black, and the biji biji is white, so my black runway suddenly become like the sky, got white stars, haha. What am I doing wrong? PS: Acrylic paint is so hard to use. I rather use enamel, but then again, my personal choice. Just wondering, can I spray the lacquer over the enamel? The hobbyman in my hobby shop said can, but I doubtful... 1st of all, acrylic and lacquer kenot mix together... they will have chemical reaction.. tat is y ppl either use acrylic or lacquer as their 1st base color then use another type of paint like enamel, etc etc
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Lucifer_Light
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May 24 2008, 01:53 PM
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Hmm... the one I'm using is Testor's 1260 (Dull Cote Overcoat Lacquer), it was recommended by the hobbyman. So if I can't use this, what can I use to coat the acrylic? Because acrylic seems to flake so easily and cannot be protected at all, that's why I was hoping to spray some overcoat.
Can I still salvage the part that I destroyed (ie the biji biji part). Good thing I tried out first before coating the entire model.
PS: The Testor is the spray can wan.
PPS: I thought the rule was Acrylic over Enamel over Lacquer? So Enamel can go over Acrylic also? Can Lacquer go over Enamel?
PPPS: What overcoat can be used to coat both Acrylic and Enamel?
Edit: I managed to wash off both the lacquer and acrylic paint with thinner and resprayed it with the undercoat paint. And I tried overcoating the hull (which I painted with acrylic paint as well) with the same lacquer overcoat, but this time spraying it at a larger distant and use lesser volume, and wahla!!! NO biji biji. I think the trick here is to use less lacquer so it doesn't melt the acrylic and when that layer of lacquer dry, put another layer...
Wat do the sifus think?
Question: What is curing? How do you cure acrylic?
This post has been edited by Lucifer_Light: May 24 2008, 07:03 PM
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edwardgsk
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May 24 2008, 07:41 PM
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damn god, i just wasted half bottle of my tamiya white acrylic paint just because i mixed in some mr. hobby blue lacquer paint.... ciko.... about RM6 gone....
...and my father is damn brilliant today haha i asked him to help me buy a small pack of satay stick for modelling purpose and u know how much he bought for me??
'2000' satay sticks!!!!
Added on May 24, 2008, 7:47 pmand damn it! the satay smells chemical too!!! is ther anywway to oevr this?
Added on May 24, 2008, 7:48 pmsatay sticks*
This post has been edited by edwardgsk: May 24 2008, 07:48 PM
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edan1979
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May 24 2008, 07:51 PM
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because its hard to find shop whose selling 100 stick lor...
mine also last time i buy got like 1k in a pack....
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zeraato
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May 24 2008, 07:51 PM
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whether or not the satay has chemical on it i dun think would be problem lo, since ur gonna use it to just suspend the parts in mid-air for spraying.
or the sticky tac u use to hold the part would seperate it anyway.
it probably smells like chemical coz its sanded wood. logically, it will not affect ur kit in any ways ...i suppose.
This post has been edited by zeraato: May 24 2008, 07:52 PM
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edwardgsk
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May 24 2008, 07:57 PM
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lol now i have became a full time sneezer from the effect of the chemical smell... i put in inside my HG 1/144 tieren taozi box and closed so the smell will trap inside... the next time i open it i will open at outdoor haha....
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zeraato
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May 24 2008, 07:59 PM
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if the chemical smell is really strong (not sure if it is chemical or not), just soak it in warm to hot water to get rid of it la...
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edwardgsk
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May 24 2008, 07:59 PM
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edan1979>> i think it should be the same as urs la... around 1k too i din really go count it... but last time when i was in giant shopping i saw small pack de so i thought my father will buy that kind.... lol...
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edan1979
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May 24 2008, 08:28 PM
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if you use it... you wont realize its already finish... because sometimes after 2-3 usage the stick broken...
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