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post Jul 2 2007, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 29 2007, 10:34 PM)
that's what i do. smile.gif

it doesn't make sense to have top as intake, as that would go against the law of physics of hot vs cold air movements

it doesn't make snese to have fans on the lower side of the casing as exhaust either, as that would mean that cold air are taken out. and again, it's not using the law of physics to help the system.
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mind explain what law of physic are u using?
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post Jul 2 2007, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(IEE @ Jul 2 2007, 10:06 PM)
mind explain what law of physic are u using?
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aerodynamic perhaps smile.gif

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post Jul 3 2007, 12:09 PM

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can two sticks of ram one cl3 other one is cl2.5 running dual channel?
their timing same of different?
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post Jul 3 2007, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Jul 1 2007, 04:23 PM)
it should be intake, so that ur processor will be cooled down by a fresh air from outside
for me it should be intake as well, same reason as above: for cooling down ur gc
its blowing the air to the heatsink..


Umm actually your explanation doesn't make sense. What you want is to keep air flow in your case circulating, expelling hot air and sucking in cold air. Since Hot air rises, what you need to do is make sure the exhausts are expelling the hot air as it rises to the top. Front fans are usually intake fans because they bring in cold air from the outside to the bottom of the case and thermodynamics will take it to the top of the case where it can be expelled. That's why good cable management makes such a big difference in the cooling of a case.. hot air doesn't get trapped behind obstructions and ill placed cards.

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think logically, when u wanna drink something hot, u blow or u suck the hot air?
or when u feel hot, u stand at the front of the fan or behind the fan?  smile.gif
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When you want to drink something the quickest way is usually to stir it with a metallic object (ie heatsink). Standing in front of a fan works because the airflow is designed to be channeled through the front. Imagine if you were sitting in a box with a wall to your back - all the hot air would just be blown towards you and get trapped in the back. You would still feel hot because you would just have hot air being recirculated around you. If you stand in a wind tunnel with no wall to your back, you'll be a lot cooler because there's no hot air to get trapped behind you. That's why having an exhaust where your graphics card/processor is probably a best idea esp since those pieces are producing the most heat.
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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 3 2007, 12:20 PM)
Umm actually your explanation doesn't make sense.  What you want is to keep air flow in your case circulating, expelling hot air and sucking in cold air.  Since Hot air rises, what you need to do is make sure the exhausts are expelling the hot air as it rises to the top.  Front fans are usually intake fans because they bring in cold air from the outside to the bottom of the case and thermodynamics will take it to the top of the case where it can be expelled.  That's why good cable management makes such a big difference in the cooling of a case..  hot air doesn't get trapped behind obstructions and ill placed cards.
When you want to drink something the quickest way is usually to stir it with a metallic object (ie heatsink).  Standing in front of a fan works because the airflow is designed to be channeled through the front.  Imagine if you were sitting in a box with a wall to your back - all the hot air would just be blown towards you and get trapped in the back.  You would still feel hot because you would just have hot air being recirculated around you.  If you stand in a wind tunnel with no wall to your back, you'll be a lot cooler because there's no hot air to get trapped behind you.  That's why having an exhaust where your graphics card/processor is probably a best idea esp since those pieces are producing the most heat.
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thanks for the clarifications smile.gif
actually im not very good in explaining this kind of terms..so i just explained in which part i did understand only, and using the simplest language i ever known..
and basically my explanations before was just a simple and basic example..
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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Jul 2 2007, 11:26 PM)
aerodynamic perhaps  smile.gif
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it's thermodynamic.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 3 2007, 05:51 PM)
it's thermodynamic.
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haha..dunno..im sux in physics tongue.gif
at least got same 'dynamic' at behind the word tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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have a noob question , what's FSB? I know it's labelled on a MOBO...but dont really know what's FSB.....

and there's two different figure which is internal graphic fsb and external graphic fsb ...

lastly , when people overclock mobo......they overclock the FSB huh ?
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QUOTE(nshady @ Jul 3 2007, 08:53 PM)
have a noob question , what's FSB? I know it's labelled on a MOBO...but dont really know what's FSB.....

and there's two different figure which is internal graphic fsb and external graphic fsb ...

lastly , when people overclock mobo......they overclock the FSB huh ?
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fsb is front side bus..yeah modify fsb to overclock.. fsb x multiplier = clock speed
but i never heard of internal/external graphic fsb.

i need help here..
can two sticks of ram one cl3 other one is cl2.5 running dual channel?
their timing same or different?

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cl2.5 and cl3.0 sure different. Never heard different timing can run dual channel. Try this,
change the CAS# Latency to 3.0 for both (change can be made in BIOS configure - MOBO). Maybe it can run dual channel after that.
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QUOTE(bulibulizaimon @ Jul 3 2007, 09:08 PM)
cl2.5 and cl3.0 sure different. Never heard different timing can run dual channel. Try this,
change the CAS# Latency to 3.0 for both (change can be made in BIOS configure - MOBO). Maybe it can run dual channel after that.
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Never tried using 2 different stick with different CL before but tried using 2 different pair with different CL (one pair is CL3, another pair CL2). This will work in dual channel but timing will be configured automatically by itself. Sometimes causing the Mhz to go way below the 150Mhz mark..(thats for DDR400)..


Simple Question here..

Does computer peripherals especially wireless stuff need specific battery capacity?I am about to purchase a wireless mouse and wondering, do it need specific battery capacity like 1600mAH or 2700mAH etc?
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jul 4 2007, 12:03 PM)
Does computer peripherals especially wireless stuff need specific battery capacity?I am about to purchase a wireless mouse and wondering, do it need specific battery capacity like 1600mAH or 2700mAH etc?
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i dont think so....as far as i know the mAH is NOT how strong the power is..but more towards how much power can be stored... so the higher the number..the longer the battery will last compared with a lower number (with the same usage of course).
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thx buli2..
ok..my next question is
3-3-2-0 consider loose or tight timing? running at 500mhz..

any personal comment about this ram AENEON ce-5 pc3200..
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QUOTE(arafat @ Jul 4 2007, 06:00 PM)
thx buli2..
ok..my next question is
3-3-2-0 consider loose or tight timing? running at 500mhz..

any personal comment about this ram AENEON ce-5 pc3200..
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considered normal, not that tight, not that loose.
Nice ram you got there
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QUOTE(arafat @ Jul 4 2007, 06:00 PM)
thx buli2..
ok..my next question is
3-3-2-0 consider loose or tight timing? running at 500mhz..

any personal comment about this ram AENEON ce-5 pc3200..
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Hmm, PC3200? i think ur speed in Mhz is 250Mhz. 250x2=DDR500.

Normal timing for DDR is 3-3-3-8 with 200Mhz. Ur timing is 3-3-2-0, I say.. tight timing bro!! icon_rolleyes.gif

AENEON CE-5? nice RAM there thumbup.gif

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CAn u all tell me what is the difference between LCD-TV and LCD-Monitor?
Which one is better in terms of pic quality? From the price, why LCD-Monitor is more expensive? Ex. Dell 2707WFP.
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QUOTE(slacx @ Jul 4 2007, 08:10 PM)
CAn u all tell me what is the difference between LCD-TV and LCD-Monitor?
Which one is better in terms of pic quality? From the price, why LCD-Monitor is more expensive? Ex. Dell 2707WFP.
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i dunno much about the differences of it..but i have read about it somewhere, the picture from lcd monitor isnt very nice since it has a lower resolution..

sorry if my answer is wrong smile.gif
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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Jul 4 2007, 08:13 PM)
i dunno much about the differences of it..but i have read about it somewhere, the picture from lcd monitor isnt very nice since it has a lower resolution..
i think you meant the "video output on LCD TV" instead of "picture from lcd monitor".
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im very noob so excuse me k sifus...

can i oc using stock coolers? i tried OC'ing it from 2.01 to 2.10, and some ticking sound started to come from the cpu. is it normal? 1st time oc'ing here.

and if my proc is damaged (i don't care anyway, planning to upgrade), is my mobo gonna be damaged? i love my abit an8 ultra to pieces, cant bear to see it burn with the proc chip.

and between oc'ing ram, proc & gc, whic one is easier?

thanks.

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QUOTE(Bleed_X @ Jul 4 2007, 09:14 PM)
im very noob so excuse me k sifus...

can i oc using stock coolers? i tried OC'ing it from 2.01 to 2.10, and some ticking sound started to come from the cpu. is it normal? 1st time oc'ing here.

and if my proc is damaged (i don't care anyway, planning to upgrade), is my mobo gonna be damaged? i love my abit an8 ultra to pieces, cant bear to see it burn with the proc chip.

and between oc'ing ram, proc & gc, whic one is easier?

thanks.
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No prob OC using stock cooler. Is it 3200+ ? Normaly no weird sound appear if u OC it correctly. Check ur cpu temperature after OC.

Theres a posibility damaring cpu/mobo or both in OC. AN8 Ultra sure nice, dont burn it tongue.gif

I think OC GC more easier coz you just need to adjust the speed of core and mem, while CPU need to set voltage and multiplier, RAM need to set voltage and timing. But i think OC GC, RAM, CPU not difficult to learn nod.gif

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