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post May 29 2019, 12:11 AM, updated 7y ago

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This was posted by me back in June last year, soon after PH victory. Sometimes one really hates to be right:
QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 30 2018, 10:11 AM)
One can forsee oppo gonna focus and go full retard on 3R (race, religion, royalty) from now onwards, coz thats the only issue they can play with.

At least when PH was opposition, there were plenty of issues on corruption, mismanagement, etc
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I really don't see how things can improve here and thats the scary truth. Social media is overrun by cybertroopers instigating 3R and nothing is being done by the government to counter or stop them. Sure, you can say "just ignore it lah", "tak suka jangan tengok lah", "delete your fb lo" and so on. But they're not targeting ME. I can ignore them (in fact I dont even layan sites like siakap keli, bbcd, etc), but the target of their instigations is not me. You can see the modus operandi easily. Whatever cina dap do (nowadays the trend is going towards salah cina dap even if the issue has nothing related to them doh.gif ), MUST FIND FAULT SOMEWHERE SOMEHOW:
Don't do anything for melayu = melayu ditindas.
Do whatever for melayu = saja nak kencingkan melayu/ melayu merana ditanah sendiri
God forbit if cina dap did anything to offend melayu/islam, it becomes cyber 513

Just an example today itself:

Professor Khoo Kay Kim's death.
Now first of all let me state here, I'm neither happy nor sad about him passing away, and I don't even see anybody talking about him in the work place or the cigarette hangout either. For me it's like, oh, this professor passed away? Ok... back to work. But just because some (or quite a few?) chinese insults his death because they disagree with his view point, and it becomes full blown cina kafir pendatang kurang ajar balik tanah asal. Wtf? Like... really, are we a communist country where differences of opinion is not allowed? You think he's right therefore it must be the absolute truth and I cannot ever say he's wrong?

Digging a bit, it's not as if the source of their disagreements are not justified either:

https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/chinese-lac...-020349726.html
https://hornbillunleashed.wordpress.com/2013/05/12/45552/
https://www.malaysiadesignarchive.org/an-op...im/?print=print

They are so angry about ppl kurang ajar pasal orang mati? Where were they when the comments about Karpal Singh passed away from accident?

Or some YB trying to score some political brownies with zakat:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4784953&hl=

Yes yes I get it, zakat can only be distributed by muslim themselves. Kafirs stay out. But call it donation, its still a bag of rice. Call it zakat and it is STILL a bag of rice. Yet the shitstorm is like worse than murder-level kind of salah... wtf?...


If you read the hate posts with an impartial mind, you can see they're really trying too hard to instigate hate. But why is the govt so fukken stupid not doing anything about it? If they can form a Special Unit to monitor insults against Islam, why can't they form a special department to monitor and take action against 3R instigators/provocateurs? Does PH government really want to lose GE15? And lose not even from incompetence but due to racial & sectarian hate?

Sad thing is both sides - cina, melayu, muslims, non-muslims gets provoked or takes the bait, and lash out indiscriminately at the other side, a never ending loop that becomes an ever growing monster. And you can see it's starting to have effect even here in /k. Things that are common everyday issues are becoming racially tinted. Ppl who used to be chill or neutral are becoming increasingly taking their "own" sides rather than trying to figure out first who's actually right or wrong.

This post has been edited by bigwolf: May 29 2019, 12:19 AM
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Thats why i say bring back ISA!
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post May 29 2019, 12:24 AM

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Comment pattern is same same, lets have a higher level of thinking than these people
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post May 29 2019, 12:32 AM

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Totally agree

This round was sparked by not opposition but maszlee with his retarded comment.
I think it was the first time since election that non malays realised ppbm = umno potek hence the feeling of betrayal

The problem is tht even with umno gone the malay mentality still hasn't changed. Die also must potek maruah, bumi rights etc
In fact with umno gone they feel even more threatened hence become even more extreme, every little thing triggered

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post May 29 2019, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ May 29 2019, 12:21 AM)
Thats why i say bring back ISA!
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post May 29 2019, 12:36 AM

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Actually I felt the media is giving oppositions way too much media coverage. Which is good and it’s shows that PH is transparent. If Mahathir were to be in his old ways he would have easily suppressed the media from covering any thing related to opposition.
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there are plenty of issues raised by najib troll page that are not 3R, stop being brainwashed u dumbass
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post May 29 2019, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(CEO 10K a day @ May 29 2019, 12:37 AM)
there are plenty of issues raised by najib troll page that are not 3R, stop being brainwashed u dumbass
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And guys, let me show you; this here is a very good (not perfect, but somewhere in the high marks) example of red herring rclxms.gif

1. Thread talks about social media & 3R instigations.
2. CEO genius jumps in about najib
3. And if you bite the bait, you'll start arguing about why najib's page is 3R or not 3R
4. Original message about social media & 3R instigations/provocations becomes lost

Go back to your office and keep earning 10k a day la. Waste your time layan /k and UFO for wat rclxs0.gif
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that is why we need fake news law

open season n start fine those people who spread misinfomation on social media
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Fake accounts flooding social media, trying to sway public opinions. It's a very dangerous game they're trying to play here - a hivemind of us vs them, and vice versa. In the end siapa yang rugi? The rakyat. The politicians are up there sitting comfortably in their fcuking leather sofas laughing at what else they could do to make the commoners fight each other. Doesn't matter if it's BN or PH, both of them are banking on riots to happen.
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post May 29 2019, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(darthsmasher @ May 29 2019, 12:32 AM)
Totally agree

This round was sparked by not opposition but maszlee with his retarded comment.
I think it was the first time since election that non malays realised ppbm = umno potek hence the feeling of betrayal

The problem is tht even with umno gone the malay mentality still hasn't changed. Die also must potek maruah, bumi rights etc
In fact with umno gone they feel even more threatened hence become even more extreme, every little thing triggered
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And this here is also an example of how comments can be misinterpreted into racial tensions. Now darthsmasher may (or may not be? I honestly dunno) mean those racist malays specifically, but when you use words like "the malay" it can easily be interpreted as attacking the malay race as a whole.

Read carefully the threads in /k, you can easily spot these kind of comments, and honestly speaking, they do not help to bring your point across to the other side, rather would only agitate the other side into defensive mode. Comments like the following:

the malays/chinese
the muslims/nons
malays/chinese in general
indahnya
sama je (tongsan/indon) sana dengan sini
tongkat race
they want wheelchair
They


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now i want sleep. tomorrow work.
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I think i dunno

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post May 29 2019, 03:11 AM

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Ultimately every issue in Malaysia can be traced to one source:

The attitude that I have the power so you do what I say.

The people with the power, since the founding of the country and long before, have always chosen to enforce their opinions rather than to do what's beneficial for the whole country. Which is why we are here to this day.

How can people watch so many superhero movies and still not understand the core principle of a superhero? A hero is a person who sacrifices his own desires for the greater good. And the opposite, the villain, forces his desires on the people.

In the context of 3R this attitude manifests as:

1) I am in power so you will do what is best for my race

2) I am in power so you will do what my religion says

3a) I am royalty so you will do what I want

3b) I CLAIM to be acting for the royalty so you will do what I want

Notice there is a difference in point 3b. Because the primary actors pulling the Royalty card are usually not the Royals themselves, but playing on their claimed intent, usually in support of the other 2R.

And then of course beyond the 3R there is just naked personal gain;

4) I'm in power so I'll take the money.

Here's a simple test: in every issue in Malaysia, ask yourself: is there a racist, religious, royal or personal gain aspect involved here? Chances are you will find the answer is yes. The next questions to ask is who stands to gain, and who has more power, and there you will usually find the ultimate culprit.

Nobody thinks of simply doing what is best for economic prosperity of all. They must grab all for themselves and not for the country.

Nobody thinks of letting everyone live their own lives how they want. They must assert their power over others and dictate how others will live.

And all this political, social and economic dominance is backed by the strength of the ultimate dominance, the ultimate power: violence. Because the ultimate coercion is, if you don't do what I say, I will not stay my hand from visiting violence upon you.

The justifications will be many and elaborate and sweet-sounding but ultimately it boils down to the factors above.

Remember Batman? remember Dark Knight? Remember the ferry problem? This is what ultimately sets apart Malaysians and other people: the easy penchant for resolving issues with violence. Small wonder why we always have so many incidents in the media. But more importantly, that is why Malaysia is always held back and everyone has to pander to those people who are willing to resort to violence, to murder.

So yeah I'm now in the attitude that you can all go fuck yourselves. So what if I'm hated for it, this is the truth and I say it loudly: Malaysians are generally terrible people who are selfish and unprincipled, wallowing in ignorance and violence.

Let this country suffer and rot. I have no sympathy.

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: May 29 2019, 03:16 AM
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ May 29 2019, 03:11 AM)
Ultimately every issue in Malaysia can be traced to one source:

The attitude that I have the power so you do what I say.

The people with the power, since the founding of the country and long before, have always chosen to enforce their opinions rather than to do what's beneficial for the whole country. Which is why we are here to this day.

How can people watch so many superhero movies and still not understand the core principle of a superhero? A hero is a person who sacrifices his own desires for the greater good. And the opposite, the villain, forces his desires on the people.

In the context of 3R this attitude manifests as:

1) I am in power so you will do what is best for my race

2) I am in power so you will do what my religion says

3a) I am royalty so you will do what I want

3b) I CLAIM to be acting for the royalty so you will do what I want

Notice there is a difference in point 3b. Because the primary actors pulling the Royalty card are usually not the Royals themselves, but playing on their claimed intent, usually in support of the other 2R.

And then of course beyond the 3R there is just naked personal gain;

4) I'm in power so I'll take the money.

Here's a simple test: in every issue in Malaysia, ask yourself: is there a racist, religious, royal or personal gain aspect involved here? Chances are you will find the answer is yes. The next questions to ask is who stands to gain, and who has more power, and there you will usually find the ultimate culprit.

Nobody thinks of simply doing what is best for economic prosperity of all. They must grab all for themselves and not for the country.

Nobody thinks of letting everyone live their own lives how they want. They must assert their power over others and dictate how others will live.

And all this political, social and economic dominance is backed by the strength of the ultimate dominance, the ultimate power: violence. Because the ultimate coercion is, if you don't do what I say, I will not stay my hand from visiting violence upon you.

The justifications will be many and elaborate and sweet-sounding but ultimately it boils down to the factors above.

Remember Batman? remember Dark Knight? Remember the ferry problem? This is what ultimately sets apart Malaysians and other people: the easy penchant for resolving issues with violence. Small wonder why we always have so many incidents in the media. But more importantly, that is why Malaysia is always held back and everyone has to pander to those people who are willing to resort to violence, to murder.

So yeah I'm now in the attitude that you can all go fuck yourselves. So what if I'm hated for it, this is the truth and I say it loudly: Malaysians are generally terrible people who are selfish and unprincipled, wallowing in ignorance and violence.

Let this country suffer and rot. I have no sympathy.
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post May 29 2019, 05:23 AM

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thats why dont be arrogant and stay humble. the professor and his family do not deserve the insult. Same also if bijan die, he and his family do not deserve insult. What people need is respect people death and do not rude.

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PH dumb minister and uturn aint helping either..
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firstly,hoping BN and PAS to do a good job as oppo is the same with hoping PH to fix the country ASAP....nope...not that fast and will not be that good...

then the 3R, its always been the issue and foothold...since when its not.so it will be recycle many time as can.

so what to do???its time for PH to use their own recipe just like how they won GE but on bigger scale with govt power. use it and things will slowly down.


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QUOTE(msacras @ May 29 2019, 12:33 AM)
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 12:11 AM)

Just an example today itself:

Professor Khoo Kay Kim's death.
Now first of all let me state here, I'm neither happy nor sad about him passing away, and I don't even see anybody talking about him in the work place or the cigarette hangout either. For me it's like, oh, this professor passed away? Ok... back to work. But just because some (or quite a few?) chinese insults his death because they disagree with his view point, and it becomes full blown cina kafir pendatang kurang ajar balik tanah asal. Wtf? Like... really, are we a communist country where differences of opinion is not allowed? You think he's right therefore it must be the absolute truth and I cannot ever say he's wrong?

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when you see people like reed90 so sayang that prof, means something wrong la.

that prof is like RT. RT disappeared from public view after PH won, same like this Prof la.

this prof wont climb so high and got all the glamorous title, if he didnt jilat. look at his title. so glamorous.
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Well, Malaysians are racists, no humans are racists.


The degree however might differ between one person and the other. The way that we brought up affects it immensely especially if one is not exposed with the other races socially, but instead relied on feeds from their own kind.

The feeling of being victimised fuels the negativity and will stay there until the person chose to do something about it. No amount of explanation would deflate such venomous racists feelings and behaviour until he or she decides to let go. Not an easy thing to do, mind you.

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I think there is ton of issue raised by oppo is more related to economy, judicial and election promises

You can see the Najib and Wee Ka Siong pages

The one that raised 3R issue is the pakatan gov themselves like Maszlee coz they want to divert their government failure

Also ppl P Ramasamy and the latest LKS himself

Scrared shit to debate with Najib then say dont want it to be 'racial' when Najib never start about it

Scared of new airport in Kedah, P Ramasamy say this is plan to oppress 'chinese' Penang

Scared of Umno and Pas allliance, LGE say it is 'declaration of war agains non-malay'

Got illegal temple demolished by developer all Indian Pakatan make press conference say this is caused by 'muslim' gangster

Gov scared of Adib issue case will caused 'race riot' , try to supress and delay the truth

Scared of matriculation issue , maszlee blame chinese for private sector job oppurtunities for bumi

Then gov supporters like you hike up the 3r issue like this thread

So who are the one that love play fire?

Pathetic
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 01:09 AM)
And this here is also an example of how comments can be misinterpreted into racial tensions. Now darthsmasher may (or may not be? I honestly dunno) mean those racist malays specifically, but when you use words like "the malay" it can easily be interpreted as attacking the malay race as a whole.

Read carefully the threads in /k, you can easily spot these kind of comments, and honestly speaking, they do not help to bring your point across to the other side, rather would only agitate the other side into defensive mode. Comments like the following:

the malays/chinese
the muslims/nons
malays/chinese in general
indahnya
sama je (tongsan/indon) sana dengan sini
tongkat race
they want wheelchair
They
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Even our royalty got brainwashed on ICERD.
The 4 of the smart ass academicians dunno chicken to where d.

The 3R has been played kawkaw ever since Pak Lah time when BN start to lose majority.
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 29 2019, 06:29 AM)
I think there is ton of issue raised by oppo is more related to economy, judicial and election promises

You can see the Najib and Wee Ka Siong pages

The one that raised 3R issue is the pakatan gov themselves like Maszlee coz they want to divert their government failure

Also ppl P Ramasamy and the latest LKS himself

Scrared shit to debate with Najib then say dont want it to be 'racial' when Najib never start about it

Scared of new airport in Kedah, P Ramasamy say this is plan to oppress 'chinese' Penang

Scared of Umno and Pas allliance, LGE say it is 'declaration of war agains non-malay'

Got illegal temple demolished by developer all Indian Pakatan make press conference say this is caused by 'muslim' gangster

Gov scared of Adib issue case will caused 'race riot' , try to supress and delay the truth

Scared of matriculation issue , maszlee blame chinese for private sector job oppurtunities for bumi

Then gov supporters like you hike up the 3r issue like this thread

So who are the one that love play fire?

Pathetic
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There are plenty instigators around with fake FB account.
Chinese FB name like Khoo Watt Ken Ching.

You wanna support BN it's your choice, but whoever use race and religion politics will ultimately send the country back to shithole.

Since you don't want to rule the country properly, just let it plunge to chaos then, let Malaysia becomes China's bitch then

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ May 29 2019, 06:40 AM)
There are plenty instigators around with fake FB account.
Chinese FB name like Khoo Watt Ken Ching.

You wanna support BN it's your choice, but whoever use race and religion politics will ultimately send the country back to shithole
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For me social media provokers is not the real issue

The one that love playing 3R now is the gov ppl themselves

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Maybe it's PH themselves that are instigating. Divide and rule has always been used by those in power.
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 29 2019, 06:29 AM)
I think there is ton of issue raised by oppo is more related to economy, judicial and election promises

You can see the Najib and Wee Ka Siong pages

The one that raised 3R issue is the pakatan gov themselves like Maszlee coz they want to divert their government failure

Also ppl P Ramasamy and the latest LKS himself

Scrared shit to debate with Najib then say dont want it to be 'racial' when Najib never start about it

Scared of new airport in Kedah, P Ramasamy say this is plan to oppress 'chinese' Penang

Scared of Umno and Pas allliance, LGE say it is 'declaration of war agains non-malay'

Got illegal temple demolished by developer all Indian Pakatan make press conference say this is caused by 'muslim' gangster

Gov scared of Adib issue case will caused 'race riot' , try to supress and delay the truth

Scared of matriculation issue , maszlee blame chinese for private sector job oppurtunities for bumi

Then gov supporters like you hike up the 3r issue like this thread

So who are the one that love play fire?

Pathetic
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Like he said, just go Najib's Facebook and you will see today he raised issue of TNB rate hike.
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QUOTE(AmIRight? @ May 29 2019, 05:23 AM)
thats why dont be arrogant and stay humble. the professor and his family do not deserve the insult. Same also if bijan die, he and his family do not deserve insult. What people need is respect people death and do not rude.
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Sure they do not deserve insult, but does those who did insult them (and the race by extension) deserves full blown cina kafir pendatang kurang ajar balik tanah asal?

This here is how the provocateurs instigate you with 3R doctrine of hate. See, the simple thing is, people being people, there WILL be different reactions (sad, happy, indifferent, etc). To expect only ONE homogeneous set of emotion that correspond to what you want is not possible. That is either communism or hive based organisms without individual thought.

Now having said that, if ppl are rude to the professor's death, then tegur them la like what you said here - the professor and his family do not deserve the insult... or even scold them for being rude. Why go full retard and threaten ethnic cleansing? Because the professor's death is not the issue, the objective here is to instigate both sides and get them to hate each other?

This post has been edited by bigwolf: May 29 2019, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(dagnarus @ May 29 2019, 06:11 AM)
Well, Malaysians are racists, no humans are racists.
The degree however might differ between one person and the other. The way that we brought up affects it immensely especially if one is not exposed with the other races socially, but instead relied on feeds from their own kind.

The feeling of being victimised fuels the negativity and will stay there until the person chose to do something about it. No amount of explanation would deflate such venomous racists feelings and behaviour until he or she decides to let go. Not an easy thing to do, mind you.
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Very most true, especially the bolded part. You can see it from some of the posters here
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 29 2019, 06:29 AM)
I think there is ton of issue raised by oppo is more related to economy, judicial and election promises

You can see the Najib and Wee Ka Siong pages

The one that raised 3R issue is the pakatan gov themselves like Maszlee coz they want to divert their government failure

Also ppl P Ramasamy and the latest LKS himself

Scrared shit to debate with Najib then say dont want it to be 'racial' when Najib never start about it

Scared of new airport in Kedah, P Ramasamy say this is plan to oppress 'chinese' Penang

Scared of Umno and Pas allliance, LGE say it is 'declaration of war agains non-malay'

Got illegal temple demolished by developer all Indian Pakatan make press conference say this is caused by 'muslim' gangster

Gov scared of Adib issue case will caused 'race riot' , try to supress and delay the truth

Scared of matriculation issue , maszlee blame chinese for private sector job oppurtunities for bumi

Then gov supporters like you hike up the 3r issue like this thread

So who are the one that love play fire?

Pathetic
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 29 2019, 06:43 AM)
For me social media provokers is not the real issue

The one that love playing 3R now is the gov ppl themselves
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Tbh, I'm still not sure if you're part of the cybertroopers instigating 3R or the end result of a fellow Malaysian brainwashed with hate hmm.gif

The thread has nothing to do with Najib & WKS but why are you and that 10k CEO keep bringing them up? Red herring? And seriously, you think "DAP controlled PH govt" is playing 3R? How stupid can they be to instigate 3R hate back towards themselves? Did you attend BTN classes before?

PH leaders makes racial mistakes then screw that leader himself la, but no, you see the 3R instigators going full retard, ini lah bukti cina dap sudah kurang ajar, puak ini dah naik tocang, melayu nak sabar sampai bila lagi, tak sabar tunggu je isyarat turun padang, halau je puak pendatang ni balik tanah asal.

Typical modus operandi of these 3R instigators to instigate 1 side and blame the other side for their own (3R instigators) threats. I mengamuk because salah kau

Its like Ah Chong insult you. Yes, Ah Chong is wrong and kurang ajar. But does that justify killing him, and his family, and burn down every chinese homes in the area?

Both sides need to read this and think deeply for themselves:
QUOTE(dagnarus @ May 29 2019, 06:11 AM)
Well, Malaysians are racists, no humans are racists.
The degree however might differ between one person and the other. The way that we brought up affects it immensely especially if one is not exposed with the other races socially, but instead relied on feeds from their own kind.

The feeling of being victimised fuels the negativity and will stay there until the person chose to do something about it. No amount of explanation would deflate such venomous racists feelings and behaviour until he or she decides to let go. Not an easy thing to do, mind you.
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This was posted by me back in June last year, soon after PH victory. Sometimes one really hates to be right:

I really don't see how things can improve here and thats the scary truth. Social media is overrun by cybertroopers instigating 3R and nothing is being done by the government to counter or stop them. Sure, you can say "just ignore it lah", "tak suka jangan tengok lah", "delete your fb lo" and so on. But they're not targeting ME. I can ignore them (in fact I dont even layan sites like siakap keli, bbcd, etc), but the target of their instigations is not me. You can see the modus operandi easily. Whatever cina dap do (nowadays the trend is going towards salah cina dap even if the issue has nothing related to them  doh.gif ), MUST FIND FAULT SOMEWHERE SOMEHOW:
Don't do anything for melayu = melayu ditindas.
Do whatever for melayu = saja nak kencingkan melayu/ melayu merana ditanah sendiri
God forbit if cina dap did anything to offend melayu/islam, it becomes cyber 513

Just an example today itself:

Professor Khoo Kay Kim's death.
Now first of all let me state here, I'm neither happy nor sad about him passing away, and I don't even see anybody talking about him in the work place or the cigarette hangout either. For me it's like, oh, this professor passed away? Ok... back to work. But just because some (or quite a few?) chinese insults his death because they disagree with his view point, and it becomes full blown cina kafir pendatang kurang ajar balik tanah asal. Wtf? Like... really, are we a communist country where differences of opinion is not allowed? You think he's right therefore it must be the absolute truth and I cannot ever say he's wrong?

Digging a bit, it's not as if the source of their disagreements are not justified either:

https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/chinese-lac...-020349726.html
https://hornbillunleashed.wordpress.com/2013/05/12/45552/
https://www.malaysiadesignarchive.org/an-op...im/?print=print

They are so angry about ppl kurang ajar pasal orang mati? Where were they when the comments about Karpal Singh passed away from accident?

Or some YB trying to score some political brownies with zakat:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4784953&hl=

Yes yes I get it, zakat can only be distributed by muslim themselves. Kafirs stay out. But call it donation, its still a bag of rice. Call it zakat and it is STILL a bag of rice. Yet the shitstorm is like worse than murder-level kind of salah... wtf?...
If you read the hate posts with an impartial mind, you can see they're really trying too hard to instigate hate. But why is the govt so fukken stupid not doing anything about it? If they can form a Special Unit to monitor insults against Islam, why can't they form a special department to monitor and take action against 3R instigators/provocateurs? Does PH government really want to lose GE15? And lose not even from incompetence but due to racial & sectarian hate?

Sad thing is both sides - cina, melayu, muslims, non-muslims gets provoked or takes the bait, and lash out indiscriminately at the other side, a never ending loop that becomes an ever growing monster. And you can see it's starting to have effect even here in /k. Things that are common everyday issues are becoming racially tinted. Ppl who used to be chill or neutral are becoming increasingly taking their "own" sides rather than trying to figure out first who's actually right or wrong.
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good post! but try this in RWI

else in /k it will be flooded with :

1) nonsense crap

2) flaming/racist comments

and eventually lead to this thread being locked or totally removed

RWI bro...aka Real World Issue Section nod.gif
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Maybe it's PH themselves that are instigating. Divide and rule has always been used by those in power.
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And I still think you're part of the 3R cybertroopers. Nobody can be so ignorant and still refuse to see facts even when showed in front of their face

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 12:11 AM)
Whatever cina dap do (nowadays the trend is going towards salah cina dap even if the issue has nothing related to them  doh.gif ), MUST FIND FAULT SOMEWHERE SOMEHOW:
saying salah cina is wrong = racing

but saying salah cina dap is OK because it's a party...so good to hide behind salah cina DAP..not racing yo!

but the bolded red :




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QUOTE(bijak 99999 @ May 29 2019, 08:51 AM)
reality is, there no fake out.. it's pure voice of rakyat to voice out they dissatisfaction

3R? well DAP play with that first
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Yup, its always salah cina dap. Rakyat like Khoo Watt Ken Ching are not fake out
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Thats why i say bring back ISA!
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QUOTE(darosha @ May 29 2019, 08:57 AM)
this
if there's one stupid thing najib done is to abolish isa
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Isnt ph condemn isa and support najib to remove isa?
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Any news confirm got people bring rnr
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 29 2019, 08:58 AM)
Isnt ph condemn isa and support najib to remove isa?
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at that time is it ph or najib have power? have the authority to remove isa?
if najib doesnt abolish isa, he can freely jail whoever threaten his power, and he'll be still in power
so najib still the stupid one on abolishing isa
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These people are hypocrites.

They subscribe to

Kita buat boleh, org lain buat tak boleh and Jangan Persoalkan.

Well Im going to persoalkan until the end of time, I don't care anymore.

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QUOTE(bijak 99999 @ May 29 2019, 08:51 AM)
reality is, there no fake out.. it's pure voice of rakyat to voice out they dissatisfaction

3R? well DAP play with that first
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Voice of racist? Maybe you try to understand why you guys racist? Because of BN 60years of racism?
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QUOTE(bijak 99999 @ May 29 2019, 08:51 AM)
reality is, there no fake out.. it's pure voice of rakyat to voice out they dissatisfaction

3R? well DAP play with that first
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UMNO enshrine divide by race and religion 1st. DAP that time pun belum ape lagi.

Don't slander.
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QUOTE(CEO 10K a day @ May 29 2019, 12:37 AM)
there are plenty of issues raised by najib troll page that are not 3R, stop being brainwashed u dumbass
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QUOTE(CEO 10K a day @ May 29 2019, 05:10 AM)
ain't reading your novel phaggot
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See? What I said was right..you're using UFO as a front shield, but truth is; you are part of the 3R though very subliminally.


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ May 29 2019, 09:06 AM)
See? What I said was right..you're using UFO as a front shield, but truth is; you are part of the 3R though very subliminally.
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just because i talked about ufo doesn't mean i can't talk about anything else....
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ May 29 2019, 09:03 AM)
Voice of racist? Maybe you try to understand why you guys racist? Because of BN 60years of racism?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ May 29 2019, 09:02 AM)
These people are hypocrites.

They subscribe to

Kita buat boleh, org lain buat tak boleh and Jangan Persoalkan.

Well Im going to persoalkan until the end of time, I don't  care anymore.
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And therein lies the danger of unnecessary escalation

QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 01:09 AM)
And this here is also an example of how comments can be misinterpreted into racial tensions. Now darthsmasher may (or may not be? I honestly dunno) mean those racist malays specifically, but when you use words like "the malay" it can easily be interpreted as attacking the malay race as a whole.

Read carefully the threads in /k, you can easily spot these kind of comments, and honestly speaking, they do not help to bring your point across to the other side, rather would only agitate the other side into defensive mode. Comments like the following:

the malays/chinese
the muslims/nons
malays/chinese in general
indahnya
sama je (tongsan/indon) sana dengan sini
tongkat race
they want wheelchair
They
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QUOTE(CEO 10K a day @ May 29 2019, 09:11 AM)
just because i talked about ufo doesn't mean i can't talk about anything else....
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just because i talked about ufo doesn't mean i can't talk about anything else....
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Which to me doesn't really gel.

UFO people are meant to be out of this world type of people. They don't really care about racial divide.

People who are engross with nationality/race defensive and sensitive on own race are usually also steep in tradition leading more towards conservative stuff.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 09:13 AM)
And therein lies the danger of unnecessary escalation
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Apologize I need to qualify that..these people as in those who keep mocking Cina as this and DAP as that.

I don't mean the entire malay race, THAT has always been my context 24/7.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ May 29 2019, 09:17 AM)
Which to me doesn't really gel.

UFO people are meant to be out of this world type of people. They don't really care about racial divide.

People who are engross with nationality/race defensive and sensitive on own race are usually also steep in tradition leading more towards conservative stuff.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 12:11 AM)
This was posted by me back in June last year, soon after PH victory. Sometimes one really hates to be right:

I really don't see how things can improve here and thats the scary truth. Social media is overrun by cybertroopers instigating 3R and nothing is being done by the government to counter or stop them. Sure, you can say "just ignore it lah", "tak suka jangan tengok lah", "delete your fb lo" and so on. But they're not targeting ME. I can ignore them (in fact I dont even layan sites like siakap keli, bbcd, etc), but the target of their instigations is not me. You can see the modus operandi easily. Whatever cina dap do (nowadays the trend is going towards salah cina dap even if the issue has nothing related to them  doh.gif ), MUST FIND FAULT SOMEWHERE SOMEHOW:
Don't do anything for melayu = melayu ditindas.
Do whatever for melayu = saja nak kencingkan melayu/ melayu merana ditanah sendiri
God forbit if cina dap did anything to offend melayu/islam, it becomes cyber 513

Just an example today itself:

Professor Khoo Kay Kim's death.
Now first of all let me state here, I'm neither happy nor sad about him passing away, and I don't even see anybody talking about him in the work place or the cigarette hangout either. For me it's like, oh, this professor passed away? Ok... back to work. But just because some (or quite a few?) chinese insults his death because they disagree with his view point, and it becomes full blown cina kafir pendatang kurang ajar balik tanah asal. Wtf? Like... really, are we a communist country where differences of opinion is not allowed? You think he's right therefore it must be the absolute truth and I cannot ever say he's wrong?

Digging a bit, it's not as if the source of their disagreements are not justified either:

https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/chinese-lac...-020349726.html
https://hornbillunleashed.wordpress.com/2013/05/12/45552/
https://www.malaysiadesignarchive.org/an-op...im/?print=print

They are so angry about ppl kurang ajar pasal orang mati? Where were they when the comments about Karpal Singh passed away from accident?

Or some YB trying to score some political brownies with zakat:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4784953&hl=

Yes yes I get it, zakat can only be distributed by muslim themselves. Kafirs stay out. But call it donation, its still a bag of rice. Call it zakat and it is STILL a bag of rice. Yet the shitstorm is like worse than murder-level kind of salah... wtf?...
If you read the hate posts with an impartial mind, you can see they're really trying too hard to instigate hate. But why is the govt so fukken stupid not doing anything about it? If they can form a Special Unit to monitor insults against Islam, why can't they form a special department to monitor and take action against 3R instigators/provocateurs? Does PH government really want to lose GE15? And lose not even from incompetence but due to racial & sectarian hate?

Sad thing is both sides - cina, melayu, muslims, non-muslims gets provoked or takes the bait, and lash out indiscriminately at the other side, a never ending loop that becomes an ever growing monster. And you can see it's starting to have effect even here in /k. Things that are common everyday issues are becoming racially tinted. Ppl who used to be chill or neutral are becoming increasingly taking their "own" sides rather than trying to figure out first who's actually right or wrong.
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Tell that to the people who called the late KKK a traitor just for his service to the country. U want to do this, go both sides. Lots of sohai in both races.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 08:40 AM)
Tbh, I'm still not sure if you're part of the cybertroopers instigating 3R or the end result of a fellow Malaysian brainwashed with hate  hmm.gif

The thread has nothing to do with Najib & WKS but why are you and that 10k CEO keep bringing them up? Red herring? And seriously, you think "DAP controlled PH govt" is playing 3R? How stupid can they be to instigate 3R hate back towards themselves? Did you attend BTN classes before?

PH leaders makes racial mistakes then screw that leader himself la, but no, you see the 3R instigators going full retard, ini lah bukti cina dap sudah kurang ajar, puak ini dah naik tocang, melayu nak sabar sampai bila lagi, tak sabar tunggu je isyarat turun padang, halau je puak pendatang ni balik tanah asal.

Typical modus operandi of these 3R instigators to instigate 1 side and blame the other side for their own (3R instigators) threats. I mengamuk because salah kau

Its like Ah Chong insult you. Yes, Ah Chong is wrong and kurang ajar. But does that justify killing him, and his family, and burn down every chinese homes in the area?

Both sides need to read this and think deeply for themselves:
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This comment really highlight what my family been talking about all the time (Bolded section)

every week must talk about this rclxub.gif

really topkek!

I'm quite grateful for not being a racist malaysian except minor racist towards my own race laugh.gif (but this partly due to different of religious view)

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QUOTE(darosha @ May 29 2019, 09:02 AM)
at that time is it ph or najib have power? have the authority to remove isa?
if najib doesnt abolish isa, he can freely jail whoever threaten his power, and he'll be still in power
so najib still the stupid one on abolishing isa
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So now who is in power? Ph or bn

How come racing issue more serious nowadays
What is the govt countermeasure?
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QUOTE(reed90 @ May 29 2019, 09:28 AM)
Tell that to the people who called the late KKK a traitor just for his service to the country. U want to do this, go both sides. Lots of sohai in both races.
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baca la baik2. oledi answered, whyyyyy keep repeating the same question? rclxub.gif

QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 08:40 AM)
Sure they do not deserve insult, but does those who did insult them (and the race by extension) deserves full blown cina kafir pendatang kurang ajar balik tanah asal?

This here is how the provocateurs instigate you with 3R doctrine of hate. See, the simple thing is, people being people, there WILL be different reactions (sad, happy, indifferent, etc). To expect only ONE homogeneous set of emotion that correspond to what you want is not possible. That is either communism or hive based organisms without individual thought.

Now having said that, if ppl are rude to the professor's death, then tegur them la like what you said here - the professor and his family do not deserve the insult... or even scold them for being rude. Why go full retard and threaten ethnic cleansing? Because the professor's death is not the issue, the objective here is to instigate both sides and get them to hate each other?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 29 2019, 09:50 AM)
So now who is in power? Ph or bn

How come racing issue more serious nowadays
What is the govt countermeasure?
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As per what I wrote on OP, really no idea why PH govt is doing nothing to monitor or take action on these instigators.

So how? Whats your solution beside bitching about PH everyday? Vote BN/PAS back?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 29 2019, 09:50 AM)
So now who is in power? Ph or bn

How come racing issue more serious nowadays
What is the govt countermeasure?
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I blame it on UMNO drumming up racial issue because that's all they ever know in their life.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 10:07 AM)
As per what I wrote on OP, really no idea why PH govt is doing nothing to monitor or take action on these instigators.

So how? Whats your solution beside bitching about PH everyday? Vote BN/PAS back?
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Cannot bitching ph?
Isnt ph the govt now?
They have the power n resources, do something la


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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 29 2019, 10:13 AM)
Cannot bitching ph?
Isnt ph the govt now?
They have the power n resources, do something la
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Here is /k. We can tokok singsong. So lets assume ph have ppl monitoring here and looking for feedback n suggestions.

So beside bitching at them, what solutions you can propose that can help the govt? Do something la, as in do what?
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QUOTE(CEO 10K a day @ May 29 2019, 09:26 AM)
i am out of this world
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QUOTE(CEO 10K a day @ May 28 2019, 06:05 PM)
send back to motherland tongshan
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I want entire /k/ to know you're racist chit.

people want to migrate it's up to them whether they kena reject or accept it's another story.

but for you to post this racist chit, makes you a racist chit.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 10:18 AM)
Here is /k. We can tokok singsong. So lets assume ph have ppl monitoring here and looking for feedback n suggestions.

So beside bitching at them, what solutions you can propose that can help the govt? Do something la, as in do what?
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Solutions?

Ask the menteri perpaduan la
Get salary over 20k mth goyang telur waste ur tax payer money
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 29 2019, 10:25 AM)
Solutions?

Ask the menteri perpaduan la
Get salary over 20k mth goyang telur waste ur tax payer money
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Not asking about menteri perpaduan. I'm asking you. So what solutions you have beside bitching about ph on daily basis?

Or is it you actually have no ideas and just want to bitch "takpe, asal bijan turun" or "who disagree dia macai bn" from post ge14 until ge15? hmm.gif
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From my obversation,

all these hatreds, slander and racism happens only in SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS and MASS MEDIA

The reality is: Everyone is living peacefully and respect each other equally.

I dont know where do you guys came from but where i lived, worked and lepaked, everyone respect each other

and i am talking about areas such as Ampang, Mont Kiara, Subang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, Shah Alam, Setiawangsa, Bangsar

#racism404 #hatred404

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 08:48 AM)
And I still think you're part of the 3R cybertroopers. Nobody can be so ignorant and still refuse to see facts even when showed in front of their face

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When I was growing up, 3R meant "recycle, reduce, reuse.

Today in Malaysia, 3R means "race, religion, royalty".

Just only find out today.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 12:11 AM)
Does PH government really want to lose GE15? And lose not even from incompetence but due to racial & sectarian hate?
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Yes, PH will lose. UMNO and PAS will come into power and this country will never be the same again.
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So now who is in power? Ph or bn

How come racing issue more serious nowadays
What is the govt countermeasure?
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racing issue now more serious
because that’s how umno is
since their lost previous ge, they’re doubling down on their 3r instigation. they themselves doing it without shame
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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ May 29 2019, 10:51 AM)
From my obversation,

all these hatreds, slander and racism happens only in SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS and MASS MEDIA

The reality is: Everyone is living peacefully and respect each other equally.

I dont know where do you guys came from but where i lived, worked and lepaked, everyone respect each other

and i am talking about areas such as Ampang, Mont Kiara, Subang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, Shah Alam, Setiawangsa, Bangsar

#racism404 #hatred404
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QUOTE(darosha @ May 29 2019, 11:57 AM)
racing issue now more serious
because that’s how umno is
since their lost previous ge, they’re doubling down on their 3r instigation. they themselves  doing it without shame
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Is umno the govt now?
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if you observe threads about economics, finance and what not here, folks will not read the article and just bash without understanding the core concepts

if race? we unite as one and bash each other.

its far harder to talk about economic numbers and stuff, much easier to get the babis and the meleis to go at it
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racing issue now more serious
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A few billion lost in songlap opportunity is a huge motivation to use whatever means necessary to come back to power.
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QUOTE(darosha @ May 29 2019, 12:13 PM)
is it umno or government who’s purposely instigating the 3r
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Maslzee talk about quota u forget?
Quota matrix not related to racial?
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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ May 29 2019, 10:51 AM)
From my obversation,

all these hatreds, slander and racism happens only in SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS and MASS MEDIA

The reality is: Everyone is living peacefully and respect each other equally.

I dont know where do you guys came from but where i lived, worked and lepaked, everyone respect each other

and i am talking about areas such as Ampang, Mont Kiara, Subang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, Shah Alam, Setiawangsa, Bangsar

#racism404 #hatred404
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Very much agree with you bro, and lets hope it continues that way.

It is to the provocateurs advantage if their instigations can spill over to the real world and hope for chaos. The danger signs are already there, when you see a simple argument between an auntie & makcik about not closing the tap becomes racial, or someone goes in the wrong way in bazaar ramadan ends up assaulted and broken mirrors. Or the Carlsberg Eddie being hounded until he had to run and fear for his life.

This thread is to remind everybody on both sides to be alert and take a step back and start thinking rationally & critically. Don't get baited & instigated, coz the hate you accumulated online can lead to disaster with just a spark in real life (remember the lowyat case)
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 29 2019, 12:31 PM)
Govt
Maslzee talk about quota u forget?
Quota matrix not related to racial?
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Ffs man, you troopers have a standard script or wat? No matter how, everything must pusing balik to salah cina dap & ph? laugh.gif

Are you also dun baca type and just wait to be dibacakan? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 08:40 AM)
Tbh, I'm still not sure if you're part of the cybertroopers instigating 3R or the end result of a fellow Malaysian brainwashed with hate  hmm.gif

The thread has nothing to do with Najib & WKS but why are you and that 10k CEO keep bringing them up? Red herring? And seriously, you think "DAP controlled PH govt" is playing 3R? How stupid can they be to instigate 3R hate back towards themselves? Did you attend BTN classes before?

PH leaders makes racial mistakes then screw that leader himself la, but no, you see the 3R instigators going full retard, ini lah bukti cina dap sudah kurang ajar, puak ini dah naik tocang, melayu nak sabar sampai bila lagi, tak sabar tunggu je isyarat turun padang, halau je puak pendatang ni balik tanah asal.

Typical modus operandi of these 3R instigators to instigate 1 side and blame the other side for their own (3R instigators) threats. I mengamuk because salah kau


Its like Ah Chong insult you. Yes, Ah Chong is wrong and kurang ajar. But does that justify killing him, and his family, and burn down every chinese homes in the area?

Both sides need to read this and think deeply for themselves:
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Chances are, those that you deem respectful will be the one who parang you should things turned ugly.
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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ May 29 2019, 10:51 AM)
From my obversation,

.........

and i am talking about areas such as Ampang, Mont Kiara, Subang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, Shah Alam, Setiawangsa, Bangsar

#racism404 #hatred404
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Those sound like urban areas to me... maybe you should set your hurdle JUST a little higher. biggrin.gif
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Very hard to avoid 3R instigation when you have UMNO and PAS pulling shit like: the Malays and Muslims must unite because they are being oppressed by the pendatangs and the kafirs!
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 29 2019, 12:31 PM)
Govt
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Quota matrix not related to racial?
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lol
that was instigated by umno people
those quota was there by previous government
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QUOTE(smallbug @ May 29 2019, 12:38 PM)
Those sound like urban areas to me... maybe you should set your hurdle JUST a little higher.  biggrin.gif
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Doesn't matter urban or rural. Hate and instigations can come from all areas and from both sides, both malays and chinese. Important is to remind yourself dont take the bait and get provoked yourself
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it's with this kind of thinking that we truly have no hope
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Don't get me wrong, what I'm trying to say is things are not all fine and dandy.
It's naive to think we are not heading that route if things do not improve.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 08:40 AM)
Tbh, I'm still not sure if you're part of the cybertroopers instigating 3R or the end result of a fellow Malaysian brainwashed with hate  hmm.gif

The thread has nothing to do with Najib & WKS but why are you and that 10k CEO keep bringing them up? Red herring? And seriously, you think "DAP controlled PH govt" is playing 3R? How stupid can they be to instigate 3R hate back towards themselves? Did you attend BTN classes before?

PH leaders makes racial mistakes then screw that leader himself la, but no, you see the 3R instigators going full retard, ini lah bukti cina dap sudah kurang ajar, puak ini dah naik tocang, melayu nak sabar sampai bila lagi, tak sabar tunggu je isyarat turun padang, halau je puak pendatang ni balik tanah asal.

Typical modus operandi of these 3R instigators to instigate 1 side and blame the other side for their own (3R instigators) threats. I mengamuk because salah kau

Its like Ah Chong insult you. Yes, Ah Chong is wrong and kurang ajar. But does that justify killing him, and his family, and burn down every chinese homes in the area?

Both sides need to read this and think deeply for themselves:
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You didnt answer my facts

All the example i given is from pakatan so called gov leadership

How you expect ppl to behave if their own gov leaders playing with fire too?

Hypocrites
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QUOTE(CommonPeople @ May 29 2019, 10:51 AM)
From my obversation,

all these hatreds, slander and racism happens only in SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS and MASS MEDIA

The reality is: Everyone is living peacefully and respect each other equally.

I dont know where do you guys came from but where i lived, worked and lepaked, everyone respect each other

and i am talking about areas such as Ampang, Mont Kiara, Subang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, Shah Alam, Setiawangsa, Bangsar

#racism404 #hatred404
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 29 2019, 01:31 PM)
You didnt answer my facts

All the example i given is from pakatan so called gov leadership

How you expect ppl to behave if their own gov leaders playing with fire too?

Hypocrites
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Already answered if you read my reply properly. You are either an instigator yourself or totally brainwashed with hate
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Already answered if you read my reply properly. You are either an instigator yourself or totally brainwashed with hate
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When i mention the pakatan leaders fault you just dismissed them easily

You harping back with the 'instigators' while didnt acknowledge that the leaders themselves play with fire too

You cant clap hands with just one hand you know

I didnt say what you say is wrong - i just pointing out why you didnt acknowledge that the gov leaders do the same thing too


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Ffs man, you troopers have a standard script or wat? No matter how, everything must pusing balik to salah cina dap & ph? laugh.gif

Are you also dun baca type and just wait to be dibacakan? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 29 2019, 02:58 PM)
QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 12:37 PM)

Ffs man, you troopers have a standard script or wat? No matter how, everything must pusing balik to salah cina dap & ph? laugh.gif

Are you also dun baca type and just wait to be dibacakan? biggrin.gif
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I said maszlee talk about quota

How is it related to dap?
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And this is why M4A1 is my favourite punching bag. Seriously, he makes it so easy, its sadder than Charlie Zelenoff going against Deontay Wilder...

Read...
QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 12:37 PM)
Ffs man, you troopers have a standard script or wat? No matter how, everything must pusing balik to salah cina dap & ph? laugh.gif

Are you also dun baca type and just wait to be dibacakan? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 12:37 PM)
Ffs man, you troopers have a standard script or wat? No matter how, everything must pusing balik to salah cina dap & ph? laugh.gif

Are you also dun baca type and just wait to be dibacakan? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 12:37 PM)
Ffs man, you troopers have a standard script or wat? No matter how, everything must pusing balik to salah cina dap & ph? laugh.gif

Are you also dun baca type and just wait to be dibacakan? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 29 2019, 02:33 PM)
When i mention the pakatan leaders fault you just dismissed them easily

You harping back with the 'instigators' while didnt acknowledge that the leaders themselves play with fire too

You cant clap hands with just one hand you know

I didnt say what you say is wrong - i just pointing out why you didnt acknowledge that the gov leaders do the same thing too
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And this here is a very fine example of either a 3R cybertrooper or an ordinary person totally brainwashed with hate. I'm going to give the benefit of doubt and go for the person brainwashed with hate, as it may also relate to many other here. Let us analyze his comment and see the subtle and not so subtle 3R doctrine here shall we.

Firstly, this was the post stig replied to:
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Now I believe the message here is very straightforward:

1. If PH minister makes racial mistakes (or call it play racial fire, or whatever lah).
2. Then screw that minister for stoking racial fire
3. But problem here is, 3R instigators are taking advantage of this to spread hate, "ini lah bukti cina dap sudah kurang ajar, puak ini dah naik tocang, melayu nak sabar sampai bila lagi, tak sabar tunggu je isyarat turun padang, halau je puak pendatang ni balik tanah asal", stuff like that

No where in that post was there any attempt to plotek said ministers. If he did wrong, punish him. How much more straightforward do you want? But apparently it is not enough for stigonboard. Apa lagi lu mau brader? Ambik parang kasi tetak sama itu minister ka? rclxs0.gif

See, the original message of this thread is to warn about the dangers of 3R instigators/provocateurs, but what stigonboard is trying to do here is to turn the entire argument... the CAUSE... or REASON, if you may call it... of the 3R instigators/provocateurs to "because of PH leaders playing racial sentiment". Classic example of I mengamuk because salah kau (or worse, aku mengamuk sebab aku kata kau salah doh.gif).

Now why do I say stigonboard is a person brainwashed with hate? Coz it is most interesting to note he ONLY blame PH ministers yet total silence on UMNO and PAS. Really... stupid crap like "LKS scared shit to debate with Najib coz dont want it to be 'racial'", can be construed as stoking/playing racial fire? But total silence on outright racial & sectarian provocations from UMNO & PAS. I mean, be fair here, read and judge impartially yourself, who is actually stoking/playing racial fire?

https://umno-online.my/2018/12/08/apabila-h...-tak-dihormati/
https://umno-online.my/2019/05/13/melayu-be...i-dap-apa-pula/
https://umno-online.my/2019/01/29/kejayaan-...asama-umno-pas/
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/hadi-muslims-used...-032528074.html
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/onl...macy/ar-BBRXH6S

Thing is, I don't blame brainwashed victims like stigonboard. This is the end result of hate propaganda. When everything you see is the fault of ph cina dap. Such brainwashed victims can only believe it is ph fault and the racial tensions are caused by themselves. It can never be cybertroopers purposely find fault in anything and everything to instigate 3R provocations. This is not acceptable:
QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 30 2018, 10:11 AM)
One can forsee oppo gonna focus and go full retard on 3R (race, religion, royalty) from now onwards, coz thats the only issue they can play with.

At least when PH was opposition, there were plenty of issues on corruption, mismanagement, etc
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Now to be fair, you see stigonboard's on both sides of the equation. And that is why I say PH govt is so fukken stupid not doing anything about it. Sometimes I think they are either too complacent after winning ge 14 or simply can't get their shit together
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 10:42 PM)
And this here is a very fine example of either a 3R cybertrooper or an ordinary person totally brainwashed with hate. I'm going to give the benefit of doubt and go for the person brainwashed with hate, as it may also relate to many other here. Let us analyze his comment and see the subtle and not so subtle 3R doctrine here shall we.

Firstly, this was the post stig replied to:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Now I believe the message here is very straightforward:

1. If PH minister makes racial mistakes (or call it play racial fire, or whatever lah).
2. Then screw that minister for stoking racial fire
3. But problem here is, 3R instigators are taking advantage of this to spread hate, "ini lah bukti cina dap sudah kurang ajar, puak ini dah naik tocang, melayu nak sabar sampai bila lagi, tak sabar tunggu je isyarat turun padang, halau je puak pendatang ni balik tanah asal",  stuff like that

No where in that post was there any attempt to plotek said ministers. If he did wrong, punish him. How much more straightforward do you want? But apparently it is not enough for stigonboard. Apa lagi lu mau brader? Ambik parang kasi tetak sama itu minister ka?  rclxs0.gif

See, the original message of this thread is to warn about the dangers of 3R instigators/provocateurs, but what stigonboard is trying to do here is to turn the entire argument... the CAUSE... or REASON, if you may call it... of the 3R instigators/provocateurs to "because of PH leaders playing racial sentiment". Classic example of I mengamuk because salah kau (or worse, aku mengamuk sebab aku kata kau salah doh.gif).

Now why do I say stigonboard is a person brainwashed with hate? Coz it is most interesting to note he ONLY blame PH ministers yet total silence on UMNO and PAS. Really... stupid crap like "LKS scared shit to debate with Najib coz dont want it to be 'racial'", can be construed as stoking/playing racial fire? But total silence on outright racial & sectarian provocations from UMNO & PAS. I mean, be fair here, read and judge impartially yourself, who is actually stoking/playing racial fire?

https://umno-online.my/2018/12/08/apabila-h...-tak-dihormati/
https://umno-online.my/2019/05/13/melayu-be...i-dap-apa-pula/
https://umno-online.my/2019/01/29/kejayaan-...asama-umno-pas/
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/hadi-muslims-used...-032528074.html
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/onl...macy/ar-BBRXH6S

Thing is, I don't blame brainwashed victims like stigonboard. This is the end result of hate propaganda. When everything you see is the fault of ph cina dap. Such brainwashed victims can only believe it is ph fault and the racial tensions are caused by themselves. It can never be cybertroopers purposely find fault in anything and everything to instigate 3R provocations. This is not acceptable:
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You didnt get what i mean

I never said umno and pas cybertroopers didnt do it

I said why even Pakatan leaders are joining in the 3R game when we expect the gov to be the cool head instead of involved in the 3R game

Gov leader should aware that their racial statement will only bring racial reaction
They should be smarter right?


Comprehend?

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 29 2019, 11:31 PM)
You didnt get what i mean

I never said umno and pas cybertroopers didnt do it

I said why even Pakatan leaders are joining in the 3R game when we expect the gov to be the cool head instead of involved in the 3R game

Gov leader should aware that their racial statement will only bring racial reaction
They should be smarter right?
Comprehend?
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1. You did exactly that, you never mentioned umno or pas.

2. See, even now you are still blaming "govt leaders" except umno, pas or 3R cybertroopers

3. Racial or non racial, no matter how smart or how well they behave, cybertroopers will still purposely find fault in anything and everything because their objective is to instigate 3R provocations. Hence the title of this thread

I doubt you will want to understand this, especially the bolded part
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 11:47 PM)
1. You did exactly that, you never mentioned umno or pas.

2. See, even now you are still blaming "govt leaders" except umno, pas or 3R cybertroopers

3. Racial or non racial, no matter how smart or how well they behave, cybertroopers will still purposely find fault in anything and everything because their objective is to instigate 3R provocations. Hence the title of this thread

I doubt you will want to understand this, especially the bolded part
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Nope i said it lot of times Umno pas cybertroopers playing the game as usual - please read back my last 3 post

But it seems you only ignore and just say screw it if it involved pakatan leaders

Ok the troopers find fault and instigate

But why Pakatan leaders incite it first? Why they give free ammunition to the troopers?

Answer me

They should be different from trooper goons but why they playing the same game

If the leaders stop maybe the troopers wont have easy bullet anymore?

Pakatan leaders should take the moral high ground as they should be the better side

Not starting the fire


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How is it related to dap?
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Read...
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racist? if racist you all already being called chink and kena spit on the face by malay..

you are lucky we are not racist.. bodo
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 30 2019, 09:37 AM)
Nope i said it lot of times Umno pas cybertroopers playing the game as usual - please read back my last 3 post

But it seems you only ignore and just say screw it if it involved pakatan leaders

Ok the troopers find fault and instigate

But why Pakatan leaders incite it first? Why they give free ammunition to the troopers?

Answer me

They should be different from trooper goons but why they playing the same game

If the leaders stop maybe the troopers wont have easy bullet anymore?

Pakatan leaders should take the moral high ground as they should be the better side

Not starting the fire
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You have been so blinded by hate and brainwash that you don't even realize you're lying. You only talk about umno/pas in your previous post, and that also after I called you out on it. See your posts in this thread:
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Interesting to see you shifting goalposts and arguing all over the place, from me hiking 3R issues to why ph ministers never punished to me brushing them off to ph govt are the ones instigating racial politics themselves to ph govt should not join in the 3R game. Dude, are you an umno/pas member? hmm.gif

You insist govt leaders should be smarter, should not play racial politics, should be cooler head, moral high ground and all. True to a certain extend but when you are blinded and fixated to ONLY that (govt leaders should be smarter, should not play racial politics, should be cooler head, moral high ground and all), it becomes a free ticket for 3R instigators/provocateurs to instigate/provoke anything & everything and lay the blame back on the target itself. So your mindset basically becomes:

Whatever 3R instigators do, is because of salah ph govt (because ph leaders should be smarter, should not play racial politics, should be cooler head, moral high ground, etc, etc). That is why cybertroopers will purposely find fault in anything and everything to instigate 3R provocations. And get brainwashed ppl like you all riled up and goes "sudahla ph, tak habis habis korang main politik perkauman!!!"

We have already seen some great examples:
LKS don't want to debate with Najib = racial shitstorm
LGE post statement in chinese = 3R shitstorm
Johor DAP prepare state letter with chinese translation = another 3R shitstorm
Another DAP leader distributes zakat to score political brownies = more 3R shitstorm

Like, really? Are you seriously thinking issues like these were intentionally done by dap/ph to instigate racial tensions? And not a case of 3R instigators finding any excuse to instigate racial provocations?


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You have been so blinded by hate and brainwash that you don't even realize you're lying. You only talk about umno/pas in your previous post, and that also after I called you out on it. See your posts in this thread:
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Interesting to see you shifting goalposts and arguing all over the place, from me hiking 3R issues to why ph ministers never punished to me brushing them off to ph govt are the ones instigating racial politics themselves to ph govt should not join in the 3R game. Dude, are you an umno/pas member?  hmm.gif

You insist govt leaders should be smarter, should not play racial politics, should be cooler head, moral high ground and all. True to a certain extend but when you are blinded and fixated to ONLY that (govt leaders should be smarter, should not play racial politics, should be cooler head, moral high ground and all), it becomes a free ticket for 3R instigators/provocateurs to instigate/provoke anything & everything and lay the blame back on the target itself. So your mindset basically becomes:

Whatever 3R instigators do, is because of salah ph govt (because ph leaders should be smarter, should not play racial politics, should be cooler head, moral high ground, etc, etc). That is why cybertroopers will purposely find fault in anything and everything to instigate 3R provocations. And get brainwashed ppl like you all riled up and goes "sudahla ph, tak habis habis korang main politik perkauman!!!"

We have already seen some great examples:
LKS don't want to debate with Najib = racial shitstorm
LGE post statement in chinese = 3R shitstorm
Johor DAP prepare state letter with chinese translation = another 3R shitstorm
Another DAP leader distributes zakat to score political brownies = more 3R shitstorm

Like, really? Are you seriously thinking issues like these were intentionally done by dap/ph to instigate racial tensions? And not a case of 3R instigators finding any excuse to instigate racial provocations?
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You said:

"We have already seen some great examples:
LKS don't want to debate with Najib = racial shitstorm
LGE post statement in chinese = 3R shitstorm
Johor DAP prepare state letter with chinese translation = another 3R shitstorm
Another DAP leader distributes zakat to score political brownies = more 3R shitstorm"


Further approved the current gov stupid and maybe purposely playing with fire?

- You stupid? LKS is the one that give excuse the debate will become racial, no one suggested it earlier. He is being chicken and then play racial

- since when bahasa kebangsaan become racial? LGE made mistake when he as gov servant didnt follow rules of using bahasa kebangsaan
This is language for malaysians for all malaysians
Stupid people like you are the one making malaysian issue become racial

- same as above. Stupid

- Zakat is one of god instruction for muslims to give their money to other muslims. Why DAP politician dip their hands into it?
Its like you bring your son to church be blessed by priest but a malay BN politician said its ok give me the baby i will bless them
This is not racial issue
But being stupid and ignorance

And you arev stupid and ignorance that all of this racial issue wont happen if DAP leaders learn about being Malaysian and not give free ammunition to racist in the first place

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 1 2019, 02:23 PM)
You said:

"We have already seen some great examples:
LKS don't want to debate with Najib = racial shitstorm
LGE post statement in chinese = 3R shitstorm
Johor DAP prepare state letter with chinese translation = another 3R shitstorm
Another DAP leader distributes zakat to score political brownies = more 3R shitstorm"


Further approved the current gov stupid and maybe purposely playing with fire?

- You stupid? LKS is the one that give excuse the debate will become racial, no one suggested it earlier. He is being chicken and then play racial

- since when bahasa kebangsaan become racial? LGE made mistake when he as gov servant didnt follow rules of using bahasa kebangsaan
This is language for malaysians for all malaysians
Stupid people like you are the one making malaysian issue become racial

- same as above. Stupid

- Zakat is one of god instruction for muslims to give their money to other muslims. Why DAP politician dip their hands into it?
Its like you bring your son to church be blessed by priest but a malay BN politician said its ok give me the baby i will bless them
This is not racial issue
But being stupid and ignorance

And you arev stupid and ignorance that all of this racial issue wont happen if DAP leaders learn about being Malaysian and not give free ammunition to racist in the first place
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Sudah la, no need to further prove your are totally brainwashed with hate and prejudice.

Now you blame ph govt give free ammunition. If tomorrow ph minister bagi salam and 3R instigators made it into a shitstorm also you say salah ph give free ammunition. You got use brains or not? You know how differentiate what is play fire vs what is purposely find fault to provoke or not? hmm.gif

If only we see the same level of anger and indignant from you over the REAL racial & religious provocations, but no... buat2 bodo skip over je whistling.gif

https://umno-online.my/2018/12/08/apabila-h...-tak-dihormati/
https://umno-online.my/2019/05/13/melayu-be...i-dap-apa-pula/
https://umno-online.my/2019/01/29/kejayaan-...asama-umno-pas/
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/hadi-muslims-used...-032528074.html
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/onl...macy/ar-BBRXH6S

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And how do you know govt is playing racial fire? I only know hate and anarchy benefits those who wants to bring down the govt, so how does instigating ppl to be racists against each other and also hate cina/dap/ph actually benefits the govt? hmm.gif



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Sudah la, no need to further prove your are totally brainwashed with hate and prejudice.

Now you blame ph govt give free ammunition. If tomorrow ph minister bagi salam and 3R instigators made it into a shitstorm also you say salah ph give free ammunition. You got use brains or not? You know how differentiate what is play fire vs what is purposely find fault to provoke or not?  hmm.gif

If only we see the same level of anger and indignant from you over the REAL racial & religious provocations, but no... buat2 bodo skip over je  whistling.gif

https://umno-online.my/2018/12/08/apabila-h...-tak-dihormati/
https://umno-online.my/2019/05/13/melayu-be...i-dap-apa-pula/
https://umno-online.my/2019/01/29/kejayaan-...asama-umno-pas/
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/hadi-muslims-used...-032528074.html
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/onl...macy/ar-BBRXH6S

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And how do you know govt is playing racial fire? I only know hate and anarchy benefits those who wants to bring down the govt, so how does instigating ppl to be racists against each other and also hate cina/dap/ph actually benefits the govt?  hmm.gif
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Why you still giving example of pas and umno?
Like i said i agreed with you that they playing racial issue
So dont waste your time when we both here agreed on this.

Now back to the MAIN issue

My problem is the gov being stupid to realise that they also playing racial issue - they too stupid and then too stupid that they need Tun M to douse the fire every single time

LKS chicken out of debate then play racial issue
LGE making racial statement ppl in umno and pas out to become enemy non muslim
P Ramasamy say kedah airport is malay state to screw chinese state
Maszlee play with job being racial issue
Nga involved in religion stuff like giving politic speech in mosque and zakat issue

And many more

And i guess their IQ is the same as you here

Being ignorant and forgot as gov leaders they should provide example and not starting a fire

Stupid
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 1 2019, 03:31 PM)
Why you still giving example of pas and umno?
Like i said i agreed with you that they playing racial issue
So dont waste your time when we both here agreed on this.

Now back to the MAIN issue

My problem is the gov being stupid to realise that they also playing racial issue  - they too stupid and then too stupid that they need Tun M to douse the fire every single time

LKS chicken out of debate then play racial issue
LGE making racial statement ppl in umno and pas out to become enemy non muslim
P Ramasamy say kedah airport is malay state to screw chinese state
Maszlee play with job being racial issue
Nga involved in religion stuff like giving politic speech in mosque and zakat issue

And many more

And i guess their IQ is the same as you here

Being ignorant and forgot as gov leaders they should provide example and not starting a fire

Stupid
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Or more of a case of purposely finding fault in everything and anything to instigate, and then get brainwashed ppl like you all riled up and blame ph for giving ammo/ playing racial fire. You never want to think that do you?
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Or more of a case of purposely finding fault in everything and anything to instigate, and then get brainwashed ppl like you all riled up and blame ph for giving ammo/ playing racial fire. You never want to think that do you?
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'Purposely finding fault'

Ok, so you saying LGE, LKS, Maszlee statements that I point out is nothing ?

Answer me here
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Why you still giving example of pas and umno?
Like i said i agreed with you that they playing racial issue
So dont waste your time when we both here agreed on this.

Now back to the MAIN issue

My problem is the gov being stupid to realise that they also playing racial issue  - they too stupid and then too stupid that they need Tun M to douse the fire every single time

LKS chicken out of debate then play racial issue
LGE making racial statement ppl in umno and pas out to become enemy non muslim
P Ramasamy say kedah airport is malay state to screw chinese state
Maszlee play with job being racial issue
Nga involved in religion stuff like giving politic speech in mosque and zakat issue

And many more

And i guess their IQ is the same as you here

Being ignorant and forgot as gov leaders they should provide example and not starting a fire

Stupid
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So much anger and outrage at ph leaders for giving ammo/playing racial fire konon, oh but when it comes to umno/pas playing and instigating REAL fire, just... what was it you said earlier?
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So much anger and outrage at ph leaders for giving ammo/playing racial fire konon, oh but when it comes to umno/pas playing and instigating REAL fire, just... what was it you said earlier?
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Of course in more outrage at PH leaders

They should be the one setting example

They should be more intelligent

They should be more aware

Umno and Pas will always playing with fire but pakatan leaders are making it easy for them

Its like they starting a fire and pakatan as the fireman giving them the petrol and matches

You expect the 'fireman' to douse and prevent the fire not helping starting the fire

Thats why im angry with them
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'Purposely finding fault'

Ok, so you saying LGE, LKS, Maszlee statements that I point out is nothing ?

Answer me here
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It can be construed as a storm in a teacup, yes even Maszlee's case, he's more being stupid than maliciously stirring hate. Know the difference

Now the problem here is, and thats the purpose of this thread, is that 3R cybertroopers are purposely and delibrately escalating/instigating it to racial sectarian hate
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 1 2019, 03:45 PM)
Of course in more outrage at PH leaders

They should be the one setting example

They should be more intelligent

They should be more aware

Umno and Pas will always playing with fire but pakatan leaders are making it easy for them

Its like they starting a fire and pakatan as the fireman giving them the petrol and matches

You expect the 'fireman' to douse and prevent the fire not helping starting the fire

Thats why im angry with them
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And you just showed you are being prejudiced

Thats why I said, if tomorrow ph minister bagi salam and 3R instigators made it into a shitstorm also you say salah ph give free ammunition. You got use brains or not? You know how differentiate what is play fire vs what is purposely find fault to provoke or not?
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 1 2019, 03:45 PM)
It can be construed as a storm in a teacup, yes even Maszlee's case, he's more being stupid than maliciously stirring hate. Know the difference

Now the problem here is, and thats the purpose of this thread, is that 3R cybertroopers are purposely and delibrately escalating/instigating it to racial sectarian hate
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Hahhahahahahha

Maszlee is just 'storm in a teacup'

Did you realise what you claiming here?

He is not stupid

He purposely giving the statement so that the non malays shut up and dont ask about the racial policy like thevmatriculation issue

And being a gov servant his word and action is much more greater than the normal ppl
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 1 2019, 03:55 PM)
Hahhahahahahha

Maszlee is just 'storm in a teacup'

Did you realise what you claiming here?

He is not stupid

He purposely giving the statement so that the non malays shut up and dont ask about the racial policy like thevmatriculation issue

And being a gov servant his word and action is much more greater than the normal ppl
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That is how you, being brainwashed with hate, wanted to see it. Maszlee being purposely and maliciously

That is why I say you spend so much hate and outrage at ph leaders for 'stirring hate' and giving free ammo, but just brush off at the REAL hate stirrers (3R cybertroopers are biasa/ oh umno/pas are expected). Yup, that is so right whistling.gif

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And you just showed you are being prejudiced

Thats why I said, if tomorrow ph minister bagi salam and 3R instigators made it into a shitstorm also you say salah ph give free ammunition. You got use brains or not? You know how differentiate what is play fire vs what is purposely find fault to provoke or not?
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First you need to differentiate

Bagi salam being make racial of coz i agree with you the instigator is the guilty party

But the mistakes done by Pakatan gov leaders is not just a 'normal' issue

It is a BIG mistake

Since when im being prejudiced?

Like i said i agree with you that umno and pas being racial fuk scum
There you go!

But im talking about gov leaders being the same like umno and pas when they should not

Let me dumb down the analogy for your level :

If you wanna catch a corrupt person, you need to ensurse the police is not corrupt too

The police is the MOST important piece in eradicating the issue as they are the one keeping order and implement the law

But what will happen if the police ALSO corrupt?


Yep the country is in ruin!


The 'police' in my analogy is the Pakatan leader

This is what happen to our country now in term of racial issue

Instead of being the better person as gov leaders they joining in the racial game too

In the end umno and pas rejoice coz pakatan leaders is helping their cause






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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 1 2019, 04:05 PM)
First you need to differentiate

Bagi salam being make racial of coz i agree with you the instigator is the guilty party

But the mistakes done by Pakatan gov leaders is not just a 'normal' issue

It is a BIG mistake

Since when im being prejudiced?

Like i said i agree with you that umno and pas being racial fuk scum
There you go!

But im talking about gov leaders being the same like umno and pas when they should not

Let me dumb down the analogy for your level :

If you wanna catch a corrupt person, you need to ensurse the police is not corrupt too

The police is the MOST important piece in eradicating the issue as they are the one keeping order and implement the law

But what will happen if the police ALSO corrupt?
Yep the country is in ruin!
The 'police' in my analogy is the Pakatan leader

This is what happen to our country now in term of racial issue

Instead of being the better person as gov leaders they joining in the racial game too

In the end umno and pas rejoice coz pakatan leaders is helping their cause
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Your analogy is not accurate. The problem now is 3R instigators/provocateurs are purposely finding fault to provoke, and then get brainwashed ppl like you all riled up and blame ph for giving ammo/ playing racial fire. You said it yourself, "mistake", but you are placing higher level of blame on their mistake than at the 3R instigators who are actually fanning tensions.

Kinda like blaming the rape victim for walking alone at night instead of the rapist tbh hmm.gif

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Your analogy is not accurate. The problem now is 3R instigators/provocateurs are purposely finding fault to provoke, and then get brainwashed ppl like you all riled up and blame ph for giving ammo/ playing racial fire. You said it yourself, "mistake", but you are placing higher level of blame on their mistake than at the 3R instigators who are actually fanning tensions.

Kinda like blaming the rape victim for walking alone at night instead of the rapist tbh  hmm.gif
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Of coz they need to be put in higher level

You will expect a police to be morally better and not corrupted than normal person right?

A leader to be morally better, more intelligent than normal ppl right?

To eradicate an issue you need the authority to be in higher level in term of moral and intelligence

But Pakatan as gov leaders doesnt show it

No wonder Mahathir complain about his ministers
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 1 2019, 04:30 PM)
Of coz they need to be put in higher level

You will expect a police to be morally better and not corrupted than normal person right?

A leader to be morally better, more intelligent than normal ppl right?

To eradicate an issue you need the authority to be in higher level in term of moral and intelligence

But Pakatan as gov leaders doesnt show it

No wonder Mahathir complain about his ministers
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That is if they purposely and intentionally play racial fire (which would be stupid coz that means they are instigating ppl against them). Like I said again and again, the problem now is 3R instigators/provocateurs are purposely finding or making fault to provoke, and then brainwashed ppl like you gets all riled up and blame ph for giving ammo/ playing racial fire.

You don't understand or just do not want to understand, and would rather argue in circles now:

1. PH ministers instigate 3R themselves

2. PH ministers should not be so stupid to give free ammo for 3R troopers

3. PH ministers should be morally better and higher level

4. Go back to 1

5. Rinse and repeat

Exactly like blaming the rape victim for walking alone at night instead of the rapist doh.gif
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 1 2019, 04:46 PM)
That is if they purposely and intentionally play racial fire (which would be stupid coz that means they are instigating ppl against them). Like I said again and again, the problem now is 3R instigators/provocateurs are purposely finding or making fault to provoke, and then brainwashed ppl like you gets all riled up and blame ph for giving ammo/ playing racial fire.

You don't understand or just do not want to understand, and would rather argue in circles now:

1. PH ministers instigate 3R themselves

2. PH ministers should not be so stupid to give free ammo for 3R troopers

3. PH ministers should be morally better and higher level

4. Go back to 1

5. Rinse and repeat

Exactly like blaming the rape victim for walking alone at night instead of the rapist  doh.gif
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Oh mah god

Like i said i agreed with you on your points about the instigators

But at the same time i also want to highlight that Pakatan gov leaders also need to be blame as they are playing racial game too

You comprehend English or not?

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 1 2019, 04:49 PM)
Oh mah god

Like i said i agreed with you on your points about the instigators

But at the same time i also want to highlight that Pakatan gov leaders also need to be blame as they are playing racial game too

You comprehend English or not?
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See, told ya you're just arguing in circles yawn.gif
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Edit: Oh and btw, just noticed this. I think we're making good progress here, definitely an improvement from "provokers are not the issue, all salah ph only" from you earlier icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 1 2019, 03:01 PM)
Sudah la, no need to further prove your are totally brainwashed with hate and prejudice.

Now you blame ph govt give free ammunition. If tomorrow ph minister bagi salam and 3R instigators made it into a shitstorm also you say salah ph give free ammunition. You got use brains or not? You know how differentiate what is play fire vs what is purposely find fault to provoke or not?  hmm.gif

If only we see the same level of anger and indignant from you over the REAL racial & religious provocations, but no... buat2 bodo skip over je  whistling.gif

https://umno-online.my/2018/12/08/apabila-h...-tak-dihormati/
https://umno-online.my/2019/05/13/melayu-be...i-dap-apa-pula/
https://umno-online.my/2019/01/29/kejayaan-...asama-umno-pas/
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/hadi-muslims-used...-032528074.html
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/onl...macy/ar-BBRXH6S

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And how do you know govt is playing racial fire? I only know hate and anarchy benefits those who wants to bring down the govt, so how does instigating ppl to be racists against each other and also hate cina/dap/ph actually benefits the govt?  hmm.gif
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Hahaha burn to the max

Thats the style of most instigators cause they are faced with the fault of Side A

In order to putar balik, they have to say it's the provocation of Side B

Always the story is provocation, provocation, provocation

as if provocation can justify the act itself... Which is ignored of course

You will find this same attitude to global affairs as well... It's always the fault of someone else for provoking, provoking, provoking

Never themselves ...
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Nak avoid 3R ... senang je, toksah login FB sudah la. Clickbait, propaganda, bull$hit, bila kau logout FB, manade.

Ohh sama gak ngan porem kopitiam cari cariemas.
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jun 1 2019, 05:37 PM)
Hahaha burn to the max

Thats the style of most instigators cause they are faced with the fault of Side A

In order to putar balik, they have to say it's the provocation of Side B

Always the story is provocation, provocation, provocation

as if provocation can justify the act itself... Which is ignored of course

You will find this same attitude to global affairs as well... It's always the fault of someone else for provoking, provoking, provoking

Never themselves ...
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And the worst part is its not provocation anymore. Cybertroopers are instigating shit then simply call it "because provocation of Side B"

Exactly like "aku mengamuk sebab aku kata u salah" doh.gif
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jun 1 2019, 05:42 PM)
Nak avoid 3R ... senang je, toksah login FB sudah la. Clickbait, propaganda, bull$hit, bila kau logout FB, manade.

Ohh sama gak ngan porem kopitiam cari cariemas.
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Masaalahnya bukan aku yg diaorg nak target untuk instigate
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jun 1 2019, 05:42 PM)
Nak avoid 3R ... senang je, toksah login FB sudah la. Clickbait, propaganda, bull$hit, bila kau logout FB, manade.

Ohh sama gak ngan porem kopitiam cari cariemas.
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See, told ya you're just arguing in circles  yawn.gif
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Like i said both are issues - the gov and oppo supporters

But im standing with what i said earlier

The biggest problem is PH gov leader that instead of being the moral standard they lower their standard and play the same game that oppo love


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dah faham/terima keputusan statistic Sandakan...??!!!
atau tengah putar halim, saya putar lagi..??!!?

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Actually I felt the media is giving oppositions way too much media coverage. Which is good and it’s shows that PH is transparent. If Mahathir were to be in his old ways he would have easily suppressed the media from covering any thing related to opposition.
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Open your eyes bigger lah.

In the old day the coalition is loyal to him.so silencing noise is beneficial to him

Not true for current coalition. They aren't loyal to him. If you see All oppo attacks aren't directed at him but rather DAP. While mamak is playing the defender against Dapig.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 1 2019, 04:46 PM)
That is if they purposely and intentionally play racial fire (which would be stupid coz that means they are instigating ppl against them). Like I said again and again, the problem now is 3R instigators/provocateurs are purposely finding or making fault to provoke, and then brainwashed ppl like you gets all riled up and blame ph for giving ammo/ playing racial fire.

You don't understand or just do not want to understand, and would rather argue in circles now:

1. PH ministers instigate 3R themselves

2. PH ministers should not be so stupid to give free ammo for 3R troopers

3. PH ministers should be morally better and higher level

4. Go back to 1

5. Rinse and repeat

Exactly like blaming the rape victim for walking alone at night instead of the rapist  doh.gif
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Bro do yourself a favour and stop replying someone who clearly uses emotions to reply, not forgetting the face that he/she lacks a brain.

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 1 2019, 09:21 PM)
Like i said both are issues - the gov and oppo supporters

But im standing with what i said earlier

The biggest problem is PH gov leader that instead of being the moral standard they lower their standard and play the same game that oppo love
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Yup, still making the same circular arguments
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Bro do yourself a favour and stop replying someone who clearly uses emotions to reply, not forgetting the face that he/she lacks a brain.
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Normally I would hv ignored him, but its a weekend, and I got nothing better to do, so... cool2.gif
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Yup, still making the same circular arguments
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Yes because you paint me as someone that agree with umno pas racist style

I have to reaffirm my stand - that while i agree with you on the instigators I dont like your attitude that simply ignore Pakatan leaders racism which is for me is much bigger problem as they are the one that should uphold the law and show bigger morale


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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 2 2019, 05:32 AM)
Yes because you paint me as someone that agree with umno pas racist style

I have to reaffirm my stand - that while i agree with you on the instigators I dont like your attitude that simply ignore Pakatan leaders racism which is for me is much bigger problem as they are the one that should uphold the law and show bigger morale
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I paint you or you paint yourself at the start?
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Same circular arguments which have already been answered time and time again yawn.gif
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I paint you or you paint yourself at the start?
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Same circular arguments which have already been answered time and time again  yawn.gif
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As per the screenshot I made myself clear that gov leaders action on this issue are more important

I think i have repeated myself lot of times but you instead took it that I support ISMA-level actions

Just because i criticize gov leaders action doesnt mean i condone what the people do

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 2 2019, 06:02 PM)
As per the screenshot I made myself clear that gov leaders action on this issue are more important

I think i have repeated myself lot of times but you instead took it that I support ISMA-level actions

Just because i criticize gov leaders action doesnt mean i condone what the people do
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And I think I've made it clear plenty of times you are just arguing in circles:

1. PH ministers instigate 3R themselves

2. PH ministers should not be so stupid to give free ammo for 3R troopers

3. PH ministers should be morally better and higher level

4. Go back to 1

5. Rinse and repeat

Your mindset is exactly what the instigators wanted, so they can simply find whatever to instigate/provoke, then label it "salah cina/dap/ph" and you'll blame salah cina/dap/ph

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Just because i criticize gov leaders action doesnt mean i condone what the people do
This really deserves a quote of its own... really unbelievably thick face considering what was written earlier:
QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 29 2019, 06:43 AM)
For me social media provokers is not the real issue

The one that love playing 3R now is the gov ppl themselves
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Some ppl just simply argue all over the place until he don't even know what he's arguing about. More example:
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 1 2019, 09:19 PM)
Like i said im all for multi school system that is unique to us

Why so triggered?
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Proof that Stigonboard just simply tembak all over the place when he gets called out:
QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Mar 24 2019, 08:43 PM)
Sorry

No country in the world do this

And its not like we world beaters

Stop flogging fail system
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Here's further evidence why I say you're either 3R instigator or someone totally brainwashed with hate, and the reason why I said your mindset is exactly what the instigators wanted, so they can simply find whatever to instigate/provoke, and get you to blame salah cina/dap/ph. See the replies in blue

QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 1 2019, 02:23 PM)
You said:

"We have already seen some great examples:
LKS don't want to debate with Najib = racial shitstorm
LGE post statement in chinese = 3R shitstorm
Johor DAP prepare state letter with chinese translation = another 3R shitstorm
Another DAP leader distributes zakat to score political brownies = more 3R shitstorm"


Further approved the current gov stupid and maybe purposely playing with fire?

- You stupid? LKS is the one that give excuse the debate will become racial, no one suggested it earlier. He is being chicken and then play racial
I doh.gif at LKS chickening out myself, and with the lamest of reasons. Curse, scold or mock him for being stupid, but who is it that's keep dragging his excuse to fan racial rhetorics? PH macai? You got read sites like siakap keli, bbbcd or umno online, etc or not?

- since when bahasa kebangsaan become racial? LGE made mistake when he as gov servant didnt follow rules of using bahasa kebangsaan
This is language for malaysians for all malaysians
Stupid people like you are the one making malaysian issue become racial
You said it yourself, bahasa kebangsaan should not be racial, lge made mistake didnt follow rules (actually this is also debatable since he's using his private fb and not official channels, but lets just maintain salah lge lah since it's tradition). Scold him, call him ignorant for not following protocals or whatever but it was not racial. So how or why it turned into racial shitstorm? PH govt instigators?  whistling.gif

- same as above. Stupid
Same as above. PH govt instigators also? whistling.gif

- Zakat is one of god instruction for muslims to give their money to other muslims. Why DAP politician dip their hands into it?
Its like you bring your son to church be blessed by priest but a malay BN politician said its ok give me the baby i will bless them
This is not racial issue
But being stupid and ignorance
Actually very much agree with you, this is not a racial issue, just some DAP guy being stupid and ignorant. So how and why it become 3R shitstorm? Have you read sites like siakap keli, bbbcd, umno online, etc?

And you arev stupid and ignorance that all of this racial issue wont happen if DAP leaders learn about being Malaysian and not give free ammunition to racist in the first place
And do you agree 3R cybertroopers can simply find whatever to instigate/provoke, and get you to blame salah cina/dap/ph for giving free ammo, when the "ammo" was simply created by the instigators themselves (like the pastor distributing free bubur lambuk case)?
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jun 1 2019, 06:19 PM)
Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away, son
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3R? Besar mana isu dia? Aku tengok kat real life orang dok mengeluh masalah kos sara hidup, susah carik keja, .... semua blame both BN for fakkap, PH for donno setel fix thing.

Ofcoz la zaman Malaysia Baru ni, semua isu politicize lam socmed. Ini semua perception war punya pasal.

3R since 1950s until now politicize. But with socmed it becum bigger. Semua olang closet racists, there are things we simply dun discuss openly.
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jun 4 2019, 12:49 AM)
there are things we simply dun discuss openly.
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Yup that's the Asian way

and that's why we not as maju

Read any self-help book, any business book, any anti-addiction book, they all say the same thing; progress starts with being honest and confronting the problem

as long as we don't do it - we won't maju

and in this world, especially the modern world, if you not maju you are mundur

hayatilah

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jun 4 2019, 12:51 AM)
Yup that's the Asian way

and that's why we not as maju

Read any self-help book, any business book, any anti-addiction book, they all say the same thing; progress starts with being honest and confronting the problem

as long as we don't do it - we won't maju

and in this world, especially the modern world, if you not maju you are mundur

hayatilah
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Whaddaya expect? 3R bukan yer traditional textbook problem.

Bukan boleh hadap terus. Negara lain isu 3R ni sampai ke civil war atau outright massacre. Ada isu kena thread very carefully.

Lets face it, 3R kat socmed ka forum ka semua jadi modal racing je. Both sides of the fence sama je.

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jun 4 2019, 12:51 AM)
Yup that's the Asian way

and that's why we not as maju

Read any self-help book, any business book, any anti-addiction book, they all say the same thing; progress starts with being honest and confronting the problem

as long as we don't do it - we won't maju

and in this world, especially the modern world, if you not maju you are mundur

hayatilah
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Whaddaya expect? 3R bukan yer traditional textbook problem.

Bukan boleh hadap terus. Negara lain isu 3R ni sampai ke civil war atau outright massacre. Ada isu kena thread very carefully.

Lets face it, 3R kat socmed ka forum ka semua jadi modal racing je. Both sides of the fence sama je.

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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jun 4 2019, 01:03 AM)
Whaddaya expect? 3R bukan yer traditional textbook problem.

Bukan boleh hadap terus. Negara lain isu 3R ni sampai ke civil war atau outright massacre. Ada isu kena thread very carefully.

Lets face it, 3R kat socmed ka forum ka semua jadi modal racing je. Both sides of the fence sama je.
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"Negara lain" - as always, we look to the worst examples to justify ourselves, rather than looking at the best examples to follow.

"Both are the same" - categorically untrue. One side wants to keep its apartheid stance, the other side wants to remove it. If we are honest, we know removing it is the key to progress, which will benefit everybody.

Although both sides may indulge in tit for tat 3R mudslinging, ultimately we know who is the real problem. We just refuse to acknowledge it.
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jun 4 2019, 01:09 AM)
"Negara lain" - as always, we look to the worst examples to justify ourselves, rather than looking at the best examples to follow.

"Both are the same" - categorically untrue. One side wants to keep its apartheid stance, the other side wants to remove it. If we are honest, we know removing it is the key to progress, which will benefit everybody.

Although both sides may indulge in tit for tat 3R mudslinging, ultimately we know who is the real problem. We just refuse to acknowledge it.
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Both sides are the same. Apa, isu matrikulasi, isu kuota IPTA, hak bumiputra. Need I say more. Apa beza stance PM4 era BN dgn stance PM7 era PH?

Kau bagitahu aku negara mana yang boleh manage isu 3R secara peaceful? Bagitahu sikit? Kat seberang tambak dulu pun riot isu 3R masa kes Natrah.
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This was posted by me back in June last year, soon after PH victory. Sometimes one really hates to be right:

I really don't see how things can improve here and thats the scary truth.
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The masses need to be educated on how to use freedom.

Otherwise...

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somehow I would like to play this song tonight...


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[quote=bigwolf,Jun 2 2019, 07:20 PM]
And I think I've made it clear plenty of times you are just arguing in circles:

1. PH ministers instigate 3R themselves

2. PH ministers should not be so stupid to give free ammo for 3R troopers

3. PH ministers should be morally better and higher level

4. Go back to 1

5. Rinse and repeat

Your mindset is exactly what the instigators wanted, so they can simply find whatever to instigate/provoke, then label it "salah cina/dap/ph" and you'll blame salah cina/dap/ph

This really deserves a quote of its own... really unbelievably thick face considering what was written earlier:
Some ppl just simply argue all over the place until he don't even know what he's arguing about. More example:

Proof that Stigonboard just simply tembak all over the place when he gets called out:

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Like i said

I dont have issue agreeing with the instigators as the wrong party - i wholly agree with you

But Ph gov action is much more important.

To catch a corrupt people, the gov need to be free of corruption

Or how you expect to catch a thief when the police also a thief?

The problem with our country is we keep repeating the same mistake

During BN days, the bn gov way to counter racism is by becoming a bigger racist

And now history repeating itself - pakatan leaders try to counter racism by becoming a bigger racist

We need the gov to stop playing the racial game by becoming the moral compass

The gov should take the moral high ground and the mature party

Let the rakyat see that Pakatan is different from BN


So yes i will repeat this over and over again and i wont stop repeating as you seems using your failure to argued against me by painting me as racist and making personal attack.


And about the national school system, you cant simply take my word without reading back my argument

If you care to read back while i felt personally multi national school system is fail system and need to be reviewed as we not exactly world beaters and no other countrie have the same system - we cannot abolish it due to the unique situation we in which is while bumi want their hak istimewa, vernacular school is kinda a fair trade back to keep the racial harmony intact.


This is your normal style eh? - you lost an argument with me then you try to paint me as racist to divert your failed argument

Cant win argument? Lets make personal attack!

Childish.
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Jun 4 2019, 01:18 AM)
Both sides are the same. Apa, isu matrikulasi, isu kuota IPTA, hak bumiputra. Need I say more. Apa beza stance PM4 era BN dgn stance PM7 era PH?

Kau bagitahu aku negara mana yang boleh manage isu 3R secara peaceful? Bagitahu sikit? Kat seberang tambak dulu pun riot isu 3R masa kes Natrah.
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Well that is easy, since we are still actively pursuing an apartheid policy, most first world nations are better than we are.

No, both sides are not the same. One side is actively championing the use of 3R. One side is at least doing it less, even if it isn't eradicating it entirely.

Which we both know is impossible at the current state of the nation.
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i just wonder what will happen to Malaysia when there is no more minorities populations, only Malays which in 100% population in future...
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 4 2019, 06:02 AM)
Like i said

I dont have issue agreeing with the instigators as the wrong party - i wholly agree with you

But Ph gov action is much more important.

To catch a corrupt people, the gov need to be free of corruption

Or how you expect to catch a thief when the police also a thief?

The problem with our country is we keep repeating the same mistake

During BN days, the bn gov way to counter racism is by becoming a bigger racist

And now history repeating itself - pakatan leaders try to counter racism by becoming a bigger racist

We need the gov to stop playing the racial game by becoming the moral compass

The gov should take the moral high ground and the mature party

Let the rakyat see that Pakatan is different from BN
So yes i will repeat this over and over again and i wont stop repeating as you seems using your failure to argued against me by painting me as racist and making personal attack.
And about the national school system, you cant simply take my word without reading back my argument

If you care to read back while i felt personally multi national school system is fail system and need to be reviewed as we not exactly world beaters and no other countrie have the same system - we cannot abolish it due to the unique situation we in which is while bumi want their hak istimewa, vernacular school is kinda a fair trade back to keep the racial harmony intact.
This is your normal style eh? - you lost an argument with me then you try to paint me as racist to divert your failed argument

Cant win argument? Lets make personal attack!

Childish.
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Wow, impressive. Now saying stop flogging a fail system and you're all for it, all in the same sentence. Impressive ability! rclxms.gif
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And you are continuously blind and insist PH govt bears more responsibility when I've shown you again and again it does not benefit PH to instigate 3R back at itself (stupid no?), and you are brainwashed (or part of the 3R cybertroopers) to blame PH.

Paint you racist to divert argument? Why do I need to do that when I've been calling you either a 3R cybertrooper or someone totally brainwashed with hate all these while? Can't win argument, simply argue all over the place again? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 4 2019, 02:21 AM)
The masses need to be educated on how to use freedom.

Otherwise...

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The govt needs to start cracking down on these instigators. Thats why for the life of me I can't understand why, if they can form a Special Unit to monitor insults against Islam, why can't they form a special unit to monitor and take action against 3R instigators/provocateurs? Does PH government really want to lose GE15, and lose not even from incompetence but from racial & sectarian hate? doh.gif

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 4 2019, 08:53 AM)
Wow, impressive. Now saying stop flogging a fail system and you're all for it, all in the same sentence. Impressive ability!  rclxms.gif
For reference:
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And you are continuously blind and insist PH govt bears more responsibility when I've shown you again and again it does not benefit PH to instigate 3R back at itself (stupid no?), and you are brainwashed (or part of the 3R cybertroopers) to blame PH.

Paint you racist to divert argument? Why do I need to do that when I've been calling you either a 3R cybertrooper or someone totally brainwashed with hate all these while? Can't win argument, simply argue all over the place again? biggrin.gif
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Im all for facts instead of emotion

While i personally believe single national school like in SG is much better as we not exactly world beaters our current social and political situation means the current system is all to stay and i have no issue with it.

You gave argument that Pakatan is not racist 'as it doesnt bring benefits'

Of course

But when they utter the racist word they dont think clearly and only follow emotion that it only bring harm to them

And every single time Tun M had to sweep their mistakes.

Thats show how stupid the current leaders now.

They no different from the old gov

Yep you try to divert when you cant argued with facts.
Did i ever call you as cybertrooper even you show tendency to protect your master? Nope i stick with facts

Did i ever call you instigator when you clearly back the racist action of your dear leaders? Nope i stick with facts

Did i ever trawl your post in totally different topics to tarnish your name? Nope i stick with the current topic

So yeah you try to divert every single time.




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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 4 2019, 10:51 AM)
Im all for facts instead of emotion

While i personally believe single national school like in SG is much better as we not exactly world beaters our current social and political situation means the current system is all to stay and i have no issue with it.

You gave argument that Pakatan is not racist 'as it doesnt bring benefits'

Of course

But when they utter the racist word they dont think clearly and only follow emotion that it only bring harm to them

And every single time Tun M had to sweep their mistakes.

Thats show how stupid the current leaders now.

They no different from the old gov

Yep you try to divert when you cant argued with facts.
Did i ever call you as cybertrooper even you show tendency to protect your master? Nope i stick with facts

Did i ever call you instigator when you clearly back the racist action of your dear leaders? Nope i stick with facts

Did i ever trawl your post in totally different topics to tarnish your name? Nope i stick with the current topic

So yeah you try to divert every single time.
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No issue with our current system but stop flogging the fail system. Ok got it biggrin.gif

And yeah, you're still arguing in circles.
QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 29 2019, 10:42 PM)
And this here is a very fine example of either a 3R cybertrooper or an ordinary person totally brainwashed with hate. I'm going to give the benefit of doubt and go for the person brainwashed with hate, as it may also relate to many other here. Let us analyze his comment and see the subtle and not so subtle 3R doctrine here shall we.

Firstly, this was the post stig replied to:
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Now I believe the message here is very straightforward:

1. If PH minister makes racial mistakes (or call it play racial fire, or whatever lah).
2. Then screw that minister for stoking racial fire. Sack him or whatever
3. But problem here is, 3R instigators are taking advantage of this to spread hate, "ini lah bukti cina dap sudah kurang ajar, puak ini dah naik tocang, melayu nak sabar sampai bila lagi, tak sabar tunggu je isyarat turun padang, halau je puak pendatang ni balik tanah asal",  stuff like that

No where in that post was there any attempt to plotek said ministers. If he did wrong, punish him. How much more straightforward do you want? But apparently it is not enough for stigonboard. Apa lagi lu mau brader? Ambik parang kasi tetak sama itu minister ka?
  rclxs0.gif

See, the original message of this thread is to warn about the dangers of 3R instigators/provocateurs, but what stigonboard is trying to do here is to turn the entire argument... the CAUSE... or REASON, if you may call it... of the 3R instigators/provocateurs to "because of PH leaders playing racial sentiment". Classic example of I mengamuk because salah kau (or worse, aku mengamuk sebab aku kata kau salah doh.gif).

Now why do I say stigonboard is a person brainwashed with hate? Coz it is most interesting to note he ONLY blame PH ministers yet total silence on UMNO and PAS. Really... stupid crap like "LKS scared shit to debate with Najib coz dont want it to be 'racial'", can be construed as stoking/playing racial fire? But total silence on outright racial & sectarian provocations from UMNO & PAS. I mean, be fair here, read and judge impartially yourself, who is actually stoking/playing racial fire?

https://umno-online.my/2018/12/08/apabila-h...-tak-dihormati/
https://umno-online.my/2019/05/13/melayu-be...i-dap-apa-pula/
https://umno-online.my/2019/01/29/kejayaan-...asama-umno-pas/
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/hadi-muslims-used...-032528074.html
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/onl...macy/ar-BBRXH6S

Thing is, I don't blame brainwashed victims like stigonboard. This is the end result of hate propaganda. When everything you see is the fault of ph cina dap. Such brainwashed victims can only believe it is ph fault and the racial tensions are caused by themselves. It can never be cybertroopers purposely find fault in anything and everything to instigate 3R provocations. This is not acceptable:
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 4 2019, 08:57 AM)
The govt needs to start cracking down on these instigators. Thats why for the life of me I can't understand why, if they can form a Special Unit to monitor insults against Islam, why can't they form a special unit to monitor and take action against 3R instigators/provocateurs? Does PH government really want to lose GE15, and lose not even from incompetence but from racial & sectarian hate?  doh.gif
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Indeed

Or just shut down internet for a week

life will be better

I am one of the last gen who experiencing life without telephone, with landline, with public phone, with mobile phone, with pager, with slowww internet as well as smart hp and fast internet, and I can safely say that our society is declining so fast that there seems to be new form of degeneracy popping out every month

Collapse in the near future appears to be a matter of when, not if. the “progress” of society is cyclical, not linear.

"reset"

http://www.returnofkings.com/88671/4-reaso...-happen-for-men
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 4 2019, 08:57 AM)
The govt needs to start cracking down on these instigators. Thats why for the life of me I can't understand why, if they can form a Special Unit to monitor insults against Islam, why can't they form a special unit to monitor and take action against 3R instigators/provocateurs? Does PH government really want to lose GE15, and lose not even from incompetence but from racial & sectarian hate?  doh.gif
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Who determines what is "provocation" or not?

Ultimately the govt is doing something smarter - cutting off the source of funds by freezing accounts of Bijan, Zahid, etc.

My guess is all these provocateurs are not free, and certainly not cheap.

Once the $$$$ runs out from the desperate fools (old BN leaders), it will die a natural death.

Think about the hydra. You can go after the heads one by one which will never end (money is endless and all these troll accounts are fake) or you can go after the heart ($$$$$).
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jun 4 2019, 11:29 AM)
Who determines what is "provocation" or not?

Ultimately the govt is doing something smarter - cutting off the source of funds by freezing accounts of Bijan, Zahid, etc.

My guess is all these provocateurs are not free, and certainly not cheap.

Once the $$$$ runs out from the desperate fools (old BN leaders), it will die a natural death.

Think about the hydra. You can go after the heads one by one which will never end (money is endless and all these troll accounts are fake) or you can go after the heart ($$$$$).
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Hahaha they are free la...you must be chinese
They earn it through imaginary pahala that you won’t understand
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QUOTE(proton_man @ Jun 4 2019, 11:55 AM)
Hahaha they are free la...you must be chinese
They earn it through imaginary pahala that you won’t understand
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Bullshit la.

PAS also prays and worship money. Otherwise "cartel Dedak" wont exist.
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jun 4 2019, 12:04 PM)
Bullshit la.

PAS also prays and worship money. Otherwise "cartel Dedak" wont exist.
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Bodoh

I’m talking about the followers
Pas follower don’t get the money
They help PAS do things for free
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jun 4 2019, 11:29 AM)
Who determines what is "provocation" or not?

Ultimately the govt is doing something smarter - cutting off the source of funds by freezing accounts of Bijan, Zahid, etc.

My guess is all these provocateurs are not free, and certainly not cheap.

Once the $$$$ runs out from the desperate fools (old BN leaders), it will die a natural death.

Think about the hydra. You can go after the heads one by one which will never end (money is endless and all these troll accounts are fake) or you can go after the heart ($$$$$).
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QUOTE(proton_man @ Jun 4 2019, 11:55 AM)
Hahaha they are free la...you must be chinese
They earn it through imaginary pahala that you won’t understand
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I'd say both types exists. You need paid professionals to keep finding things to instigate, keep at it and you'll get ppl blinded by hate and keep the fire spreading
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 4 2019, 12:14 PM)
I'd say both types exists. You need paid professionals to keep finding things to instigate, keep at it and you'll get ppl blinded by hate and keep the fire spreading
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The first 1 is nothing la
2nd one is always the dangerous one
There is no limit to their hatred
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 4 2019, 11:07 AM)
No issue with our current system but stop flogging the fail system. Ok got it biggrin.gif

And yeah, you're still arguing in circles.
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Yep the current system doesnt show any inklings that we are world beaters so personally i prefer SG national school system

But the reality is the communities will not allow that to happen so im ok with it - im all for racial harmony.


It become circles coz you kept diverting the issue and i have to keep it on track
So this time i wont repeat myself as you seems put the brakes too this time.


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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jun 4 2019, 11:29 AM)
Who determines what is "provocation" or not?

Ultimately the govt is doing something smarter - cutting off the source of funds by freezing accounts of Bijan, Zahid, etc.

My guess is all these provocateurs are not free, and certainly not cheap.

Once the $$$$ runs out from the desperate fools (old BN leaders), it will die a natural death.

Think about the hydra. You can go after the heads one by one which will never end (money is endless and all these troll accounts are fake) or you can go after the heart ($$$$$).
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Agreed

But it also important to ensure the govt take action towarda their own leaders too - they seems scotts free easily
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freedom of speech
say no to curtailing free speech

proper action is action on rioters & those carrying out physical actions
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 4 2019, 09:41 PM)
Yep the current system doesnt show any inklings that we are world beaters so personally i prefer SG national school system

But the reality is the communities will not allow that to happen so im ok with it - im all for racial harmony.
It become circles coz you kept diverting the issue and i have to keep it on track
So this time i wont repeat myself as you seems put the brakes too this time.
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Communities wont allow it to happen or you're not giving them an alternative?

And what? Its become circles because of ME diverting issue pulak???

1. PH ministers instigate 3R themselves

2. PH ministers should not be so stupid to give free ammo for 3R troopers

3. PH ministers should be morally better and higher level instead of joining in to play 3R

4. Go back to 1

5. Rinse and repeat

So far as I know, I'm not the one repeating the above laugh.gif
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QUOTE(brapa? @ Jun 4 2019, 10:58 PM)
freedom of speech
say no to curtailing free speech

proper action is action on rioters & those carrying out physical actions
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I've always believed in freedom of speech, but freedom of speech does not mean freedom to slander, defame or incite, unlike what some ktards think. Notice those are usually the loudest and most racist ones who quote freedom of speech to justify their comments. Even US, the so called land of freedom does not have absolute unrestrained freedom of speech:

https://www.brighthubeducation.com/social-s...edom-of-speech/
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 29 2019, 01:04 PM)
Is umno the govt now?
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Umno is not the govt.

During dap pkr oppo. They have shame doing 3r

But not umno. Umno have no shame doing it.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Jun 4 2019, 11:22 PM)
Communities wont allow it to happen or you're not giving them an alternative?

And what? Its become circles because of ME diverting issue pulak???

1. PH ministers instigate 3R themselves

2. PH ministers should not be so stupid to give free ammo for 3R troopers

3. PH ministers should be morally better and higher level instead of joining in to play 3R

4. Go back to 1

5. Rinse and repeat

So far as I know, I'm not the one repeating the above laugh.gif
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1. I agreed with you about the 3R provokers

2. I ALSO said that Pakatan leaders also need to share the blame and their action is much more important as they are the leaders and moral standard bearer and i listed their past racial comments

3. Instead of trying to academically discuss this further you instead attacking me personally by saying im also the provokers, brainwashed Bn supporter and ISMA etc

4. I tried to get back to the topic by repeating back my point no.2 as above but then you just simply dismiss and bury and divert the pakatan leaders mishap by listing long list of action done by the Bn/pas provokers - and continue making personal attack towards me

5. Just to further your personal attack and divert the topic - you post some stock image ridiculing me

6. Not enough you also dig back my old post and talk about the national school system policy - to further divert and smear my reputation

7. By that time i tried my best to ignore your personal attack and going back to the original point no2 but you claimed that i repeating myself - just because i tried my best to go back the original topic

Expecting your new post to continue making personal attack or diverting from the real topic AGAIN
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Jun 5 2019, 08:12 PM)
1. I agreed with you about the 3R provokers

2. I ALSO said that Pakatan leaders also need to share the blame and their action is much more important as they are the leaders and moral standard bearer and i listed their past racial comments

3. Instead of trying to academically discuss this further you instead attacking me personally by saying im also the provokers, brainwashed Bn supporter and ISMA etc

4. I tried to get back to the topic by repeating back my point no.2 as above but then you just simply dismiss and bury and divert the pakatan leaders mishap by listing long list of action done by the Bn/pas provokers - and continue making personal attack towards me

5. Just to further your personal attack and divert the topic - you post some stock image ridiculing me

6. Not enough you also dig back my old post and talk about the national school system policy - to further divert and smear my reputation

7. By that time i tried my best to ignore your personal attack and going back to the original point no2 but you claimed that i repeating myself - just because i tried my best to go back the original topic

Expecting your new post to continue making personal attack or diverting from the real topic AGAIN
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And I've been telling you since the beginning your point no. 2 is defective but you can't accept it. Read the bolded part again and think properly this time, can? Instead of arguing all over the place then accuse I'm the one diverting and making personal attacks, can? yawn.gif
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Expecting your new post on any of the following below icon_idea.gif

1. PH ministers instigate 3R themselves

2. PH ministers should not be so stupid to give free ammo for 3R troopers

3. PH ministers should be morally better and higher level instead of joining in to play 3R

4. Accusing me of diverting & personal attacks (why does this reminds me of the 3R instigators in the topic who instigates racial provocation but shift the blame to cina/dap/ph as the ones who start it? hmm.gif )

5. Go back to 1

6. Rinse and repeat

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