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zstan
post Apr 17 2020, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Apr 17 2020, 10:20 PM)
GLD dropping tho
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This is the normal movement. When equities go up gold should drop. Last 2 weeks was crazy due to both of them going up!
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post Apr 18 2020, 05:15 AM

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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Apr 17 2020, 02:35 AM)
I strongly agree. What is the point of having so much money if you don't know how to utilize/enjoy them? Money is pointless and meaningless unless you make full use of it and make something meaningful out of it! But sure, I suppose some people will just feel happy and content and safe when they look at the numbers biggrin.gif
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Agreed. and good to hear from a fellow menjalara-ian biggrin.gif

QUOTE(jonoave @ Apr 17 2020, 04:58 AM)
I also subscribe to this thinking. That's why I'm willing to spend some money to travel etc. I know some people will say "oh we want to save up money so when we retire we can travel around the world".
But personally I feel that:
1. travel is exhausting. How much can you travel can you spend or cram within one period? Do you plan to travel or take vacation every month when you retire?
2. Age. Like I said, travel can be exhausting - all the walking around, sight-seeing and navigating in unfamiliar environments. Even now I can feel my stamina is not what it was when I was in my early 20s. I probably wouldn't have that much stamina to do long travels when I'm much older.

Of course when I travel I try to keep a decent budget and not do shopping or fashion holidays. I also try to save for retirement but I see life as a journey, and we shouldn't focus so much on that end goal of "golden age of retirement' to enjoy life. But like you said, some people think differently and their priority is focused on achieving their target at the end. smile.gif
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Totally agree. I like to travel too and I like cars haha. So my friend asked me, what if I didn't buy my car or buy a cheaper car? I could invest the downpayment and monthly payment and when I retire I could have gotten 2-3mil ringgit extra on top of my target. I told him, yeah probably I could, but :
1. I don't know if i will ever get to my retirement age and
2. Even if I do, sure i'll have the extra cash and then what? Buy a sports car at 65? I will probably hurt my knees getting into a sports car at that age.

But for people who are happy with looking at the numbers and die die want to get as much money as possible, I respect that.

QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Apr 17 2020, 10:28 AM)
M40 cannot hit 1 million.
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I actually calculated for a friend, he started working at 19, he is now 21. His epf contribution plus employer's is rm1200. If his salary maintains he can hit 1mil. If my calculation is right. I could be wrong.
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post Apr 18 2020, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(afif737 @ Apr 18 2020, 05:15 AM)
Agreed. and good to hear from a fellow menjalara-ian  biggrin.gif
Totally agree. I like to travel too and I like cars haha. So my friend asked me, what if I didn't buy my car or buy a cheaper car? I could invest the downpayment and monthly payment and when I retire I could have gotten 2-3mil ringgit extra on top of my target. I told him, yeah probably I could, but :
1. I don't know if i will ever get to my retirement age and
2. Even if I do, sure i'll have the extra cash and then what? Buy a sports car at 65? I will probably hurt my knees getting into a sports car at that age.

But for people who are happy with looking at the numbers and die die want to get as much money as possible, I respect that.
I actually calculated for a friend, he started working at 19, he is now 21. His epf contribution plus employer's is rm1200. If his salary maintains he can hit 1mil. If my calculation is right. I could be wrong.
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m40 can hit la.. 1 month ur employer+ ur own can reach 3k u got more than 1mil already.
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post Apr 18 2020, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(afif737 @ Apr 18 2020, 05:15 AM)
Agreed. and good to hear from a fellow menjalara-ian  biggrin.gif
Totally agree. I like to travel too and I like cars haha. So my friend asked me, what if I didn't buy my car or buy a cheaper car? I could invest the downpayment and monthly payment and when I retire I could have gotten 2-3mil ringgit extra on top of my target. I told him, yeah probably I could, but :
1. I don't know if i will ever get to my retirement age and
2. Even if I do, sure i'll have the extra cash and then what? Buy a sports car at 65? I will probably hurt my knees getting into a sports car at that age.

But for people who are happy with looking at the numbers and die die want to get as much money as possible, I respect that.
I actually calculated for a friend, he started working at 19, he is now 21. His epf contribution plus employer's is rm1200. If his salary maintains he can hit 1mil. If my calculation is right. I could be wrong.
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What work is that. 21 already earn 4K?

Even 5k also 1065 combined
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post Apr 18 2020, 12:37 PM

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My stashaway still negative when it comes to USD. Sigh!
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post Apr 18 2020, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Apr 18 2020, 12:37 PM)
My stashaway still negative when it comes to USD. Sigh!
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Yes, in term of USD, TWR is still negative.
stormseeker92
post Apr 18 2020, 02:32 PM

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What you people working as so rich at 21? LMAO
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post Apr 18 2020, 02:34 PM

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post Apr 18 2020, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Apr 18 2020, 01:33 PM)
Yes, in term of USD, TWR is still negative.
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Both my TWR and MWR still negative for USD risk 8%
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post Apr 18 2020, 03:27 PM

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Hello everyone. Just a quick question, if I had RM500 to DCA every week, what would be the best option?

A. Continue DCA RM500 a week
B. When the market is in green, only deposit RM250 weekly, and keep the other RM250 to pump more when market is red.

Just wondering, cuz everywhere I read some say the market will retest the lows when the stimulus effect fade away and industrial report comes in.
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post Apr 18 2020, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Apr 18 2020, 03:27 PM)
Hello everyone. Just a quick question, if I had RM500 to DCA every week, what would be the best option?

A. Continue DCA RM500 a week
B. When the market is in green, only deposit RM250 weekly, and keep the other RM250 to pump more when market is red.

Just wondering, cuz everywhere I read some say the market will retest the lows when the stimulus effect fade away and industrial report comes in.
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Doing A in rain or shine is better...
As doing B "maybe" subjected to one emotion as in ...too many green days, "buy more" due to fear of missing out, too many RED days, stopped buying due to try to buy cheaper "tomorrow".

correct and honest risk level of the selected portfolio is one of more important factor to consider too

This post has been edited by MUM: Apr 18 2020, 03:46 PM
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post Apr 18 2020, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Apr 18 2020, 02:32 PM)
What you people working as so rich at 21? LMAO
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Oil and gas worker? Those get cert then work as helper at drilling rig can also earn daily 300-400 at least.
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post Apr 18 2020, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Apr 18 2020, 03:27 PM)
Hello everyone. Just a quick question, if I had RM500 to DCA every week, what would be the best option?

A. Continue DCA RM500 a week
B. When the market is in green, only deposit RM250 weekly, and keep the other RM250 to pump more when market is red.

Just wondering, cuz everywhere I read some say the market will retest the lows when the stimulus effect fade away and industrial report comes in.
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stopped DCA completely during the ''crash'' for unit trust and lumpsum all in when its just about to rebound. manage to average down significantly
its doable since unit trust have cut off time, which make it possible to get priced within one working day

since SA dont have specific cut off time, its extremely hard to ''time'' the market. sometime it might take 1, 2, or even 3 working days.
if you believe the market will retest the low, why still deposit at all hmm.gif

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post Apr 18 2020, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Apr 18 2020, 12:33 PM)
What work is that. 21 already earn 4K?

Even 5k also 1065 combined
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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Apr 18 2020, 02:32 PM)
What you people working as so rich at 21? LMAO
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 18 2020, 03:50 PM)
Oil and gas worker? Those get cert then work as helper at drilling rig can also earn daily 300-400 at least.
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He's a flight attendant. But keep in mind his career path is like the ideal path. He got promoted after 2 years. Normally people take longer to get promoted. He is earning an average of about 5k take home a month if i'm not mistaken (I'm not sure coz I'm not an FA) and if you look at the B40,M40,T20 table he is considered under B40 in KL,Selangor and Putrajaya but under M40 for Malaysia lol.gif

When he asked for my advice, I told him not to touch his epf, and start investing early. Coz he's young so the compounding interest will really make a difference to his advantage. Oh and he just started investing in SAMY too.
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post Apr 18 2020, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(afif737 @ Apr 18 2020, 04:30 PM)
He's a flight attendant. But keep in mind his career path is like the ideal path. He got promoted after 2 years. Normally people take longer to get promoted. He is earning an average of about 5k take home a month if i'm not mistaken (I'm not sure coz I'm not an FA) and if you look at the B40,M40,T20 table he is considered under B40 in KL,Selangor and Putrajaya but under M40 for Malaysia  :lol2:

When he asked for my advice, I told him not to touch his epf, and start investing early. Coz he's young so the compounding interest will really make a difference to his advantage. Oh and he just started investing in SAMY too.
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Oh ya flight attendance is another lucrative career but now also kena pay cut. Epf can touch abit la.. take some invest higher risk for higher profit in the long run.

Finally SA back to green.. but i think this aint over yet.. another blood bath coming also..
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post Apr 18 2020, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(afif737 @ Apr 18 2020, 04:30 PM)
He's a flight attendant. But keep in mind his career path is like the ideal path. He got promoted after 2 years. Normally people take longer to get promoted. He is earning an average of about 5k take home a month if i'm not mistaken (I'm not sure coz I'm not an FA) and if you look at the B40,M40,T20 table he is considered under B40 in KL,Selangor and Putrajaya but under M40 for Malaysia  :lol2:

When he asked for my advice, I told him not to touch his epf, and start investing early. Coz he's young so the compounding interest will really make a difference to his advantage. Oh and he just started investing in SAMY too.
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Ideal path?

Is he working now?
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post Apr 18 2020, 05:10 PM

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Das a jackpot over there making big bucks at 21. Hats off sir
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post Apr 18 2020, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 18 2020, 04:54 PM)
Oh ya flight attendance is another lucrative career but now also kena pay cut. Epf can touch abit la.. take some invest higher risk for higher profit in the long run.

Finally SA back to green.. but i think this aint over yet.. another blood bath coming also..
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As from my previous replies, I don't touch my EPF at all. EPF money no touchy touchy. To each his own biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Apr 18 2020, 04:58 PM)
Ideal path?

Is he working now?
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Ideal path as in compared to other flight attendants, not compared to other careers. Like i said, normally it takes a while longer to get promoted. Yeap he is still working. The airline industry took a big hit from this virus. Everyone is getting a paycut, some even layoffs. Hoping that we will bounce back.
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post Apr 18 2020, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Apr 18 2020, 05:10 PM)
Das a jackpot over there making big bucks at 21. Hats off sir
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Yeahh. I've seen him work, a very hard and dedicated worker. I would give him a hats off too hahah
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post Apr 18 2020, 06:27 PM

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Just asking, is it better to DCA monthly or weekly?

Personally for me im currently doing monthly, due to lump sump allocate to DCA, another to own forced savings etc

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