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post Jul 29 2020, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(chichabom @ Jul 29 2020, 04:04 PM)
yeah but i recall they were very efficient in 2019, i.e. all my funds that reach them by 11am on a particular day, conversion and buy order takes place the same day itself. At most also T+1 (which is also rare) from the day they got the funds.
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I agree.
That time I still playing with "timing" the market and quite successful

But as time goes by, it's not consistent anymore.. so stopped liao..

Just "time" with fsm.. haha
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post Aug 1 2020, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 31 2020, 06:18 PM)
Gold will not drop, especially at volatile times. In fact if it was the inclusion of gold that boost the portfolios value over the last 6 months. I'm glad we have it across.

My thinking is Stashaway does its rebalancing job pretty well. There is no emotion attached. Otherwise I'd be addicted to buying even more gold nowadays.
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Some might say gold have negative correlation with economy but imo it's not totally true as price elasticity plays important role determining the gold price movements.

Which imo, stashaway notice that. Hence 36% included gold. Fears of uncertainty brings ppl flocking to precious metal

That being said, as stashaway model is DCA. Even when the gold become price inelastic, with DCA the price will eventually smooth out.
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post Aug 13 2020, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Xenopher @ Aug 13 2020, 12:15 PM)
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My 36% portfolio is doing fine too. Started early July.
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started 2019 july
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post Aug 25 2020, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Aug 25 2020, 11:46 AM)
Bitch I have been through MWR -23%

Now +40% something ady

Just hodl
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3 years and mwr 40
during the ''crash'', did you vca?

mine 1 year 34%
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post Aug 25 2020, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Aug 25 2020, 05:20 PM)
Safe, high return (at least not lower than FD) with no fee incurred,  laugh.gif
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epf ftw
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post Aug 25 2020, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Aug 25 2020, 05:24 PM)
nice answer, but low liquidity.
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DIY your own etf portfolio?
from my past research, recommended min top up each time eur 4k
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post Aug 25 2020, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Aug 25 2020, 05:26 PM)
What is VCA LOL. I think no.
It's not exactly safe either. If MYR hyperinflates, everyone's EPFs are game over.
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VCA, i remember there's a member with ''elite'' tag mentioned.. (you know who you are, lol.. sorry i din remember your nick properly)
value cost averaging (not sure if its correct term or not)
or is it value averaging
meaning only top up when there's xx% drop

QUOTE(honsiong @ Aug 25 2020, 05:26 PM)
It's not exactly safe either. If MYR hyperinflates, everyone's EPFs are game over.
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not only epf, basically any type of investment dominated in MYR
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post Aug 25 2020, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Aug 25 2020, 05:39 PM)
LOL that sounds dumb, so if the portfolio goes to 0, since I should invest inverse proportionally to the performance, I should go all in when the knife keeps dropping?

Or when the market is doing better and better with no crash in sight, I should put less and less money every week/month?

There is nothing "averaging" about that term, you are just buying more when it's dipping.
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i am sorry, perhaps in my earlier explanation arent correct and clear.
is it really dump, as you see it? hmm.gif

when you invest, be it passively or actively, one must not be ignorant/arrogant without doing any research and/or keep track on what they invest in
when you decided to invest, for sure you believe/hope/trust/ that your investment tools/asset/holdings will goes up

and so, when the investment value/holdings/portfolio drops, investor must at least know what makes it drop. is it due to internal or external problem


What is Value Averaging?
Value averaging is an investing strategy that works like dollar cost averaging (DCA) in terms of steady monthly contributions, but differs in its approach to the amount of each monthly contribution. In value averaging, the investor sets a target growth rate or amount on his or her asset base or portfolio each month, and then adjusts the next month's contribution according to the relative gain or shortfall made on the original asset base.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/value_averaging.asp
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post Aug 25 2020, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Aug 25 2020, 06:45 PM)
Then what am I paying 0.8% p.a. for if not for StashAway team's professional fund management LOL.

Why so many steps wanna do this VCA thing aka market timing? That goes against what StashAway advised us to do.

So many people here try to use a fully automated tool manually, what do you guys want: auto or manual?

If you like to drive manual so much, might as well use IBKR or TD Ameritrade. Plenty of low fee ETFs to choose from.

StashAway rebalances every single time you deposit/withdraw, you can just "VCA" by tweaking the risk index so it sells and buys different asset classes actively.
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You got very valid points there!
just need to DCA and let the pro do all the works.

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Aug 25 2020, 07:01 PM)
In a way what you say is true. But, it is a fact that if you invest more in the downturn time and when comes to upturn, you will make more. Just that I don't completely advocate any vca'ing formulas etc. I do advocate investing more when others are cautious.
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this is pretty true.
its not wrong to know/understand what's happening in the market, to decide whether top up or not.

sorta like warren buffet and benjamin graham value investing.
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post Aug 28 2020, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Aug 27 2020, 09:37 PM)
Well. that's what we paid SAMY for. Confidence in the pros. My opinion matters less with zero expertise lmao

Just wanna know which one of the three is the best bet, since many of sifus here got more experience than me.
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straight 36%, no question ask biggrin.gif
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post Aug 29 2020, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(chenkiong @ Aug 29 2020, 10:33 AM)
i deposit 200 on 19 aug. today 29 samy havent invest my 200. what happen
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you need to manually input how you want the money to be split
between your portfolio


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post Sep 2 2020, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 2 2020, 11:26 AM)
cash position getting higer duno when want to enter sad.gif

DCA 1 years plus and still going.
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somehow got the gut feeling
NASDAQ will pass 12.3k and then unable to sustain and dropped back to around 11.2k/11.5k point.

just a gut feeling, without any data/news/information backing it

and my cash also getting bigger, mainly from bursa
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post Sep 12 2020, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Sep 11 2020, 09:40 PM)
It's dropping but no bullets except the one I am saving for next 2 weeks until pay day T_T
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 11 2020, 11:06 PM)
same here, there is a fund for emergency which i reluctant to use...damn missed the cheap sale sad.gif
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based on nasdaq chart
the bear still there, probably until next week
given the sentiment and things happening next week

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post Jan 22 2021, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Oklahoma @ Jan 22 2021, 10:38 AM)
Anyone know what kind of protection we have as investors in stashaway? In case if stashaway failed or any of it's intermediaries committed fraud?

Will we be insured by SC or something...
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SA holdings are with trustee
and if SA failed, based on the previous robo ai from SG (forgotten the name)
SA can/might find other companies to absorb SA customer
if SA failed to do so
SA customer holdings will be forced to liquidise(loss or profit) and money given back to SA customer

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post Jan 30 2021, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(hedfi @ Jan 30 2021, 03:58 PM)
Thanks for the advice, will take a short break like 2-3 weeks then resume DCA and add a bit more. Don't intend to withdraw for the next 5yrs. First 2 weeks of Jan was shiok, got  about 8% but will look long term
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If you are trader
It's not wrong to wait for "confirmation" uptrend signal before setting up a trade

But if you are investor, buy in everytime there's dip, especially if it's due to external factors, like current event when it's all down.

If and when out of all your portfolio, only one is down while others is up, then re evaluate what's going on with it.
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 1 2021, 10:16 AM)
same same, gonna allocate a portion of the vitamin B into stashaway couple with regular DCA amount. can't believe i've deposited so much into stashaway for myself already, first milestone reached.

Is there anyone here plan to make this one of your largest portfolio after your EPF? or is it just me?
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I was planning for that but now not anymore

Biggest to lowest

Stock
UT and FD
EPF
Robo

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post Feb 2 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Feb 1 2021, 06:14 PM)
the put off for me for UT is the high costs, but i still invest consistently into FSM on monthly basis as well, not too bad i must say.
FD, hmmm, way too low just for now, and that given my time horizon is >20 years, so won't mind taking more risk. it is gonna pay off (fingers crossed)
50k is not that much only la. i think you can achieve quite fast also. i'm talking about few hundred or even up to a million?
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my UT mainly for china and asia market exposure
plus i dont have the time nor the knowledge to direct buy in
hence i am willing to pay those fee

FD is my safety net tongue.gif
that being said, during dip took approximately 50% of it, focus on UT, bursa and US stock
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post Feb 26 2021, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(cathorla @ Feb 26 2021, 02:53 PM)
This whole week has been a disaster ... a 5% drop for my portfolio. When can we expect things to get better?
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Probably mid of march.
Election season, Feb usually sell off session. Plus with the yield reaching 1.5%

Few more weeks before any real show
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post Mar 2 2021, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(blibala @ Mar 2 2021, 12:33 PM)
Recently jotice that samy is slower compared to previous. Last time deposit on 7am the same night execute buy order.

Now need 2-3 days already.
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SA robo macam tau if and when the dip will continue and the robo hold off from purchase.

I wonder if the robo included some TA as well

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