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post Jul 27 2021, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 27 2021, 10:29 AM)
dont like the shariah compliance lol. Sorry i am just being skeptical. Now is wait n see lo, wat to do. last year march 2020 drop 20% i also kena oledi, this time just wipe tis year profit shud be ok la..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

i guess now is just like reality kicks in. and hongkong index also collapsing very quickly. actually all those money flowing into where, tesla? lol.
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To be honest, me too. Especially with their soon to launch china a share based etf.
But hey, it's more cost effective than buying UT.

Back to SA, if you trust them, just give them another year or two. Remember time in the market is important. Mine was 2019 and still in the green.

QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 27 2021, 10:34 AM)
I've left Wahed early this year. Without reoptimisation i don't expect much growths from their holdings. most are at ATHs already.
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ATH does not mean it will not continue to grow. Especially fundamentally good.
I still have mine.

2020 Jan $28
2020 Dec $33

Jan 2021 $34
until now $38
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post Jul 27 2021, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 27 2021, 10:46 AM)
I dont expect China to be democratic anytime soon. But don't confuse democracy with capitalism (which to a certain extent we fully expected when you publicly list a company). Perhaps the whole world got confused except Emperor Xi.

Put it this way, if EVERYTHING goes along with CCCP plans for a 1000 year reich of the Communist party - where would you and I be? How would your capital and my capital grow? Will the rich be richer, will the opportunist capitalist become rich? Will there be a Buffet coming out of China? It seems NO at this point. For good or bad, if you listen to CCCP it is for greater good of Mother China. But for you and I?

I can tell you, I will be super cautious. I think PE ratios for Chinese companies under communist rule should be around 5. That is if they take my money as capital to do more business they better repay me in 5 years.
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Thats why I said
Avoid china for those don't agree with their ways of doing things. It's your money, your right to choose whichever you feel safe and ease.

It's not secret china is communist based ruling. They open up their economy for rest of the world means rest of the world need to play by their rules. Same goes with any countries.


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post Jul 29 2021, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(tiramisu83 @ Jul 28 2021, 11:42 PM)
I know i am not a expert in this robo advisor thing...some how i don't feel comfortable of losing that much of money only in KWEB..and i thought robo advisor is 'smart enough' to perform a buy/sell when the market is good/bad? I have doubt why SA didn't sell some of the KWEB when reaching USD90 that time? At least not losing that much. (I am not sure the SA selling KWEB for some of you guys, but mine never sell..keep holding until now)

Just my thoughts.
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Robo is not forture teller, just predict based on available data. This "black swan" even aren't include in SA data

Mine does not sell as well even tho kweb was over its supposedly allocation was over.
My understanding is that diversification in portfolio, whenever holding in the portfolio exceed allocation, will sell the exceed and buy the under allocated.

Perhaps SA are anticipating that user will continue to top up and hence disregard the exceeded allocation holdings


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post Aug 3 2021, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Jul 31 2021, 05:46 PM)
Is it wise to wait for US mortgage foreclosure moratium lapsing before adding in any more money? It looks like 2008 for me lol
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Some die hard fan of SA will reply you
Trust their Robo
If not DIY

Some die hard hater of SA will reply you
Better withdrawal
SA aren't performing as compare to XXX

Anyhow, it depends on your risk tolerance.
Crash/correction might come might not
If it comes years later, you miss out all the rally
If it comes now, you could and might buy at the bottom but SA take few working days to complete buying order.
Knowing all these and plan accordingly.
So that you can sleep soundly and won't regret for any outcome

Personally, I only top up SA during dip.

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post Aug 3 2021, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Aug 3 2021, 08:53 AM)
u go see fb group side..fuhh..some lagi panic..just start invest 3 month ago got negative complain
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You mean Stashaway community group?
I did join the group, for the past week almost everyday got ppl post about kweb/reoptimise and the comments usually buy the dip/DCA and asking poster to shutup/trust SA.
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post Aug 3 2021, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Aug 3 2021, 09:41 AM)
thats more or less describe how it is here too laugh.gif
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True, but man some of them are plain rude, toxic and arrogant.
act like almighty, know it all towards newbies.



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post Aug 5 2021, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Aug 5 2021, 12:19 PM)
Got to agree to this.

Initially I started SA for this reason. Myr is dropping by the year. International etf pegged to usd at least another safety net. Unless myr decided to appreciate (judging by Malaysian politic turmoil, is highly unlikely)

In fact alll the losses is in usd, but myr remain no loss to due to its depreciation.

That said, still need to be careful of what SA allocation. Especially for Kweb. YES, everyone says buy the dip, kweb almost 50%, still don't go all in, allocate some to other platform or etf.
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Gotta agree with this

Wahed as of now is on the bull due to 97% US only exposure.

SA 36% will need more time as their allocation is much more diversify.
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post Aug 10 2021, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(blibala @ Aug 10 2021, 11:19 AM)
For me i just deposit into SA and forget.. Dont really bother to see the amount inside daily.. Come back to check twice a month will do. No investment will go north forever. If u fear to bear the risk better opt for mmf or fd.
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In case anyone does not know
Stock,UT,ETF got possibilities of getting delisted/liquidated
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post Aug 18 2021, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(necrox77 @ Aug 17 2021, 03:44 PM)
I wonder how long it takes KWEB will rebound back. In China all the company need to comply with the regulations by ccp but the etf price are determined my foreign market isn’t?.

I think foreign market wants a corporate leader to stand against the CCP but domestically it is impossible.

China internet retail is bigger than US but western media will only show bad images to reduce foreign investment. StashAway betting  China domestic market will grow.
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Yup. It's hard to stand against the government.
Just like how the west block companies merger and acquisition, citing anti monopolies. Recent event Facebook

Market bias and overly react when it comes to china CCP. I am pretty sure once CCP finish their regulation, those western media/institution will report/announce how it's good to buy in china investment as it's all time low, bla bla bla..

Anyhow, if one does not agree/comfortable having their money invested in china or whatever countries or sector, it is probably a good way to avoid such platform.
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post Aug 21 2021, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Aug 21 2021, 12:24 AM)
Should have just bought Amazon 20 years ago.
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Amazon top out around 160 before bubble
After burst, drop to around 6

You sure you will continue hold, even buy the dip and then continue hold until now?
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post Aug 21 2021, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Aug 21 2021, 02:03 PM)
Hindsight is 20/20. I wonder why no one isn't buying the biggest company 30 years from now?
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Many if not most don't have the conviction, ball and nerve of steel to hold, even buy the dipping dip.

What company is that?

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post Aug 23 2021, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Aug 22 2021, 10:16 PM)
Please watch this youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYNSx57D7v4&t=2463s

After watch then you understand that
-what is optimizing. Answer - is it done to reduce the risk
-Freddy answer a question- why not just leave it & don optimize. short answer again is risk
-Freddy explain that SA is a pseudo unit trust. hence optimizing will be done

I think the problem is your different expectation of SA. and yeah its sort of bad timing(early this year) those invested before KWEB fall down.
but again they said time in market > timing the market  mega_shok.gif
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Rebalance and reoptimise portfolio once the macro economics are projected to be bad. But will macro economics change significantly in 1 year timeframe?

Not sure if anyone notice, for 36% RI, they are selling off etf on 2020, buying the same etf back on 2021.

SA potray themselves as long term investor, looking at macro economics.

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post Aug 24 2021, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 24 2021, 01:07 AM)
Anyone got any idea to solve this "dislike" without telling "you don't like, u get out of SA?"
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Basically it's impossible.
Fanbois/fangirls/Mr/Mrs know it all will tell you shut the hell up, DIY yourself or get the hell out from SA.
You ain't know shit about SA prowess with their AI/robo/ERAA framework.


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post Aug 25 2021, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 24 2021, 11:15 PM)
FUH BREAK 10% LIAO.  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

when KWEB spike thread so quiet pulak  laugh.gif

JD alone +13%
Pinduoduo +17%

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Keep buying the JD dip
Unfortunately, don't have unlimited bullet

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