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post Mar 7 2019, 12:40 PM, updated 7y ago

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KUALA LUMPUR, March 7 — Malays and Indians are more likely to experience discrimination when applying for jobs in the private sector, especially women of the two ethnicities, a survey by a think tank found.

The Centre for Governance and Political Studies said its study concluded that Malays and Indians face more hurdles to secure job interviews compared to Mandarin-speaking Chinese applicants who topped all callback rates from hiring companies.

The survey was an experimental study in which Cent-GPS researchers posed as different applicants from all three major ethnic groups, but with the same qualifications and other criteria deemed necessary to make them prime candidates.

“We found there is ethnic discrimination... Malays, yes, but the Indians suffer the worst,” Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said at a media briefing here.

Inb4 sign icerd 1stsos


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post Mar 7 2019, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Mar 7 2019, 12:41 PM)
Dah tolak ICERD, what to do?
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post Mar 7 2019, 12:42 PM

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I usually discriminate ppl who don't have the balls to run naked though...
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Kek always playing the victim card. Already the majority population and tonnes of affirmative action still not enough? Maybe you all should look closer as to why this kind of things exist.
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post Mar 7 2019, 12:44 PM

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"no job ngam my skillset" also a form of discrimination ah?

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post Mar 7 2019, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Mar 7 2019, 12:41 PM)
Dah tolak ICERD, what to do?
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Sign or no sign...still gonna be discriminate


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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:40 PM)
KUALA LUMPUR, March 7 — Malays and Indians are more likely to experience discrimination when applying for jobs in the private sector, especially women of the two ethnicities, a survey by a think tank found.

The Centre for Governance and Political Studies said its study concluded that Malays and Indians face more hurdles to secure job interviews compared to Mandarin-speaking Chinese applicants who topped all callback rates from hiring companies.

The survey was an experimental study in which Cent-GPS researchers posed as different applicants from all three major ethnic groups, but with the same qualifications and other criteria deemed necessary to make them prime candidates.

“We found there is ethnic discrimination... Malays, yes, but the Indians suffer the worst,” Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said at a media briefing here.

Inb4 sign icerd 1stsos
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This is kinda true though... But more of an attitude problem. Ask do a bit more, dun want and then leave office right on time, while "others" stay longer just to finish work. Then complain why not fair to them, and quit find new jobs.

At least M got government office to go. But I?

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post Mar 7 2019, 12:50 PM

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these Malays and Indians in their survey are mandarin speakers as well?
how about banana Chinese?
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post Mar 7 2019, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:40 PM)
The Centre for Governance and Political Studies said its study concluded that Malays and Indians face more hurdles to secure job interviews compared to Mandarin-speaking Chinese applicants who topped all callback rates from hiring companies.

Inb4 sign icerd 1stsos
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So even Chinese but can't speak mandarin is discriminated as well? I find this reporting racial tension baiting. They clearly say they want to see segregation based solely on race.

Mandarin-Speaking-Chinese is not a race.

Why did they omit the result for Non mandarin speaking Chinese

Edit : After reading the twit directly from below, I got a better picture and more info. Shit this is serious. Sign ICERD!

This post has been edited by Mixo Mania: Mar 7 2019, 12:55 PM
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post Mar 7 2019, 12:51 PM

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Macha got it worst. Even Minachi got it better. shakehead.gif
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post Mar 7 2019, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Mar 7 2019, 12:41 PM)
Dah tolak ICERD, what to do?
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Later dah sign icerd buat jugak

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:51 PM)


Macha got it worst. Even Minachi got it better.  shakehead.gif
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This is depressing man
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post Mar 7 2019, 12:56 PM

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Lolol saddiq could've got more callbacks if his makeup didn't look like saiat..
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post Mar 7 2019, 12:56 PM

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I see cainis companies got all races as employees

but other companies.....never mind
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:51 PM)


Macha got it worst. Even Minachi got it better.  shakehead.gif
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That Saddiq name though......
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unfortunately yes, cause gov give tongkat to them, so when in same ground battle, of course they lose out. cause they so use to tongkat and lost its competitive.
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post Mar 7 2019, 12:57 PM

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hire according to the best candidate for the position.
not hire on race or gender.
a company objective is to make $$$ and they do not care who will make it for them.
any company who discriminate is doomed for failure bcs all the potential best talents will be working for their competitor.

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post Mar 7 2019, 12:58 PM

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They should do a similar exercise on local university application and government scolarship. Again the Indian guy will have the least call back
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post Mar 7 2019, 12:58 PM

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how about discrimination in govt/glc sector? do survey there la
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Mar 7 2019, 12:42 PM)
Kek always playing the victim card. Already the majority population and tonnes of affirmative action still not enough? Maybe you all should look closer as to why this kind of things exist.
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then how about the indians?
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Btw. I ask u gaise honestly if u got company, u wan hire Japanese or Nigerian

Sure Japanese esp female.

But if u they u will hire male Nikka... brows.gif


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post Mar 7 2019, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Mar 7 2019, 12:41 PM)
Dah tolak ICERD, what to do?
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Kolos tered la ts.
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Mar 7 2019, 12:41 PM)
Dah tolak ICERD, what to do?
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Kolos tered la ts.
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:51 PM)


Macha got it worst. Even Minachi got it better.  shakehead.gif
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WTF!? the girls photo oso taken from the same guy!!??

fark for a moment my kukujiao was confused!!!

omg questioning my sexuality now
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post Mar 7 2019, 01:02 PM

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It's up to companies or room tenants to hire or accept whoever they wants.

To use the phrase discrimination is not even correct.

Unless you're talking about something like citizenship or something like that, then there's something to discuss.
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Mar 7 2019, 12:59 PM)
Btw. I ask u gaise honestly if u got company, u wan hire Japanese or Nigerian

Sure Japanese esp female.

But if u they u will hire male Nikka... brows.gif
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If me I hire both. Live JAV weh
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Eh, this actually reflect /k right?
All suka amoi while do not prefer macha? brows.gif
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im pretty racist against yindians, don't have a single good experience hiring one.
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:40 PM)
KUALA LUMPUR, March 7 — Malays and Indians are more likely to experience discrimination when applying for jobs in the private sector, especially women of the two ethnicities, a survey by a think tank found.

The Centre for Governance and Political Studies said its study concluded that Malays and Indians face more hurdles to secure job interviews compared to Mandarin-speaking Chinese applicants who topped all callback rates from hiring companies.

The survey was an experimental study in which Cent-GPS researchers posed as different applicants from all three major ethnic groups, but with the same qualifications and other criteria deemed necessary to make them prime candidates.

“We found there is ethnic discrimination... Malays, yes, but the Indians suffer the worst,” Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said at a media briefing here.

Inb4 sign icerd 1stsos
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YINDIAN I UNDERSTAND LA
BUT BUT BUT BY LOGIC MEREHSIA HAS THE MOST MEREI, SHOULD HAVE THE MOST MEREI BOSS WHO MIGHT DISCRIMINATE OVER OTHER LACE, HOW COME AR, WHY, HOW AR
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Mar 7 2019, 01:05 PM)
If me I hire both. Live JAV weh
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I sense a potential cuck....
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post Mar 7 2019, 01:08 PM

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Why not do a study who receive the most call back for govt scholarship and job?
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The unspoken part is probably some Malay company also discriminating against the Malay candidate. And if this is true, what does this survey tell us?
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QUOTE(MiLKTea @ Mar 7 2019, 01:08 PM)
Why not do a study who receive the most call back for govt scholarship and job?
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reply: Jangan persoal hak...
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Mar 7 2019, 01:08 PM)
The unspoken part is probably some Malay company also discriminating against the Malay candidate. And if this is true, what does this survey tell us?
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That proves _____ are just as racist, or if not more.
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just based on callbacks alone=discrimination:x

what about their skills/qualifications?
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:51 PM)


Macha got it worst. Even Minachi got it better.  shakehead.gif
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Macha has blue background, probably doesn't know the world has changed to white. 100% out.
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This is declaration of war.

Oh wait
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:40 PM)
KUALA LUMPUR, March 7 — Malays and Indians are more likely to experience discrimination when applying for jobs in the private sector, especially women of the two ethnicities, a survey by a think tank found.

The Centre for Governance and Political Studies said its study concluded that Malays and Indians face more hurdles to secure job interviews compared to Mandarin-speaking Chinese applicants who topped all callback rates from hiring companies.

The survey was an experimental study in which Cent-GPS researchers posed as different applicants from all three major ethnic groups, but with the same qualifications and other criteria deemed necessary to make them prime candidates.

“We found there is ethnic discrimination... Malays, yes, but the Indians suffer the worst,” Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said at a media briefing here.

Inb4 sign icerd 1stsos
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Dude posting many racing today?

Those who cry foul for such thing should go hang themselves and go dai.. dont blame other ppl if ownself cant communicate in the required languages for the business.


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QUOTE(ycs @ Mar 7 2019, 12:58 PM)
how about discrimination in govt/glc sector? do survey there la
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70% of them are chinese, mostly professionals.

QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 7 2019, 01:00 PM)
Kolos tered la ts.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 7 2019, 01:02 PM)
It's up to companies or room tenants to hire or accept whoever they wants.

To use the phrase discrimination is not even correct.

Unless you're talking about something like citizenship or something like that, then there's something to discuss.
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So by your logic its up to the nation to accept whoever they wants?
So dun cry bout discrimination while you are doing it to other people. It goes both ways.


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QUOTE(LamboSama @ Mar 7 2019, 01:14 PM)
This is declaration of war.

Oh wait
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 01:12 PM)
That proves _____ are just as racist, or if not more.
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How did you come by that conclusion?

Racism will always exist to some extent, but jumping to conclusion against another race without any real basis... that is what fuels racism
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My company have zero indian. Because worry they rage when goring.
Malay usually diam diam go, because they also known they are not performing. And they don't tipu as indian.
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Very hard to swallow for some. Maybe because not long enough...
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TS = puak penipu scammer

probably why kena discriminated
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Employers (not Ah Beng company) are looking for ppl with modern global outlook/mindset that fits with the world (u tak sign ICERD and pergi attend rally summore means already tolak markah), good English, disciplined, and hard working and dedicated.

After that, command of other languages is a plus. Esp a language that is widely used.

It is ALWAYS this set of criteria, without being too specific....like taking long Maternity Leave, etc

Not many young Malaysians fit this. But a certain race in Malaysia are often the closest fit.

That is why. wink.gif

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QUOTE(ycs @ Mar 7 2019, 01:13 PM)
just based on callbacks alone=discrimination:x

what about their skills/qualifications?
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same skills and qualifications
QUOTE(keyser soze @ Mar 7 2019, 01:16 PM)
My company have zero indian. Because worry they rage when goring.
Malay usually diam diam go, because they also known they are not performing. And they don't tipu as indian.
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chinaman company?
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:52 PM)
Later dah sign icerd buat jugak

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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Mar 7 2019, 01:16 PM)
My company have zero indian. Because worry they rage when goring.
Malay usually diam diam go, because they also known they are not performing. And they don't tipu as indian.
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my company got zero malay n indian bcoz no candidate tht can speak japanese.
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So malay company also discriminate malay candidates?
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QUOTE(tsunade @ Mar 7 2019, 12:50 PM)
these Malays and Indians in their survey are mandarin speakers as well?
how about banana Chinese?
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all speak mandarin
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:52 PM)
Later dah sign icerd buat jugak

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later dah sign icerd, play "our client only knows mandarin, speak shitty england, and didn't know how to speak bahasa melayu despite living here for 40 years" card
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:40 PM)
KUALA LUMPUR, March 7 — Malays and Indians are more likely to experience discrimination when applying for jobs in the private sector, especially women of the two ethnicities, a survey by a think tank found.

The Centre for Governance and Political Studies said its study concluded that Malays and Indians face more hurdles to secure job interviews compared to Mandarin-speaking Chinese applicants who topped all callback rates from hiring companies.

The survey was an experimental study in which Cent-GPS researchers posed as different applicants from all three major ethnic groups, but with the same qualifications and other criteria deemed necessary to make them prime candidates.

“We found there is ethnic discrimination... Malays, yes, but the Indians suffer the worst,” Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said at a media briefing here.

Inb4 sign icerd 1stsos
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https://centgps.com.my/people-behind-centgps/


UMNO senator is behind this think tank

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most educated indians are hired in MNC only becoz application goes into a global database and interviewers are made up of a pool of people overseas and local. no chance for
racism and discrimination from locals.
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PEOPLE BEHIND CENT-GPS
A certain someone from this research house is an UMNO youth chief and member of the supreme council. Considering the modus operandi of the day of UMNO operators today, this suits their agenda perfectly.

And senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin was BN Youth executive secretary.
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...-fulltime-jobs/

Looks like UMNO plotting for the races to clash again...

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QUOTE(JoLee @ Mar 7 2019, 12:42 PM)
Kek always playing the victim card. Already the majority population and tonnes of affirmative action still not enough? Maybe you all should look closer as to why this kind of things exist.
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Ever try sent fake Mandarin as third language in resume? I do.. still no call for interview or shortlisted for interview.
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LUL .. this is funny...

1. All 7 candidate = same person. Only Name and race is changed on paper
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The passport pics to the resumés were taken from the same person. The candidates all had the same physical features but were applied makeup to look the ethnicity of their resumé. Literally, the only difference between these seven resumés was their names & skin color.


2. All candidate had the same resume. Literally,
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In the resumés of these seven candidates, they all had the same degree, they all obtained the same CGPA, a Second Class Upper, they all graduated from a local private university, they all had a three month internship and they all can communicate in English, Malay and Mandarin.


3. and yet the callback rate is totally different


4. Even with mandarin, other races got far lower callback
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All our candidates listed Mandarin as "intermediate" in their resumés. Yet Nicola and Gabriel dominated in callbacks from Mandarin-required companies. Nicola got a 55% callback rate whilst Thivakar got 9%.

"Mandarin requirement" is just a smokescreen to hire Chinese candidates.
That's the reality of our job market.
if people think this is new and just happen 10 years ago, think again.
Way back in 1960 (before NEP was introduced) , same thing happen. Ask any 60 y/o and they will say the same.

inb4 Waiting for some Tongsan supporter to justify this. and #noICERDnoPROBLEM comment...

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my site got interview 2 ppl for manager post

1. 1 guy supervisor experience.. interview time talk alot macam very good vert friendly.. boss like him ~ when for second interview,.. ask him to simple question ( excel/ charts/ normal supply chain term) cannot answer.. big boss terkejut why like that.. kena reject


2. 1 guy supervisor experience also.. interview time.. not much express~ but more to work related.. very calm/ steady/.. boss say macam not ok .. not friendly enough.. when for second interview ( after the 1st one rejected). turn out he have more knowledge/ got alot of problem-solving skills when given senarios blah blah..
boss impress


so moral story~ please interview 2-3 layer before hiring with different interviewer
I donwan to state race here so guys sendiri guess lar innocent.gif

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Ini dah mencabar maruah dan hak kite !!!
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 7 2019, 01:02 PM)
It's up to companies or room tenants to hire or accept whoever they wants.

To use the phrase discrimination is not even correct.

Unless you're talking about something like citizenship or something like that, then there's something to discuss.
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Tula sape suruh tolak icerd kan
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Mar 7 2019, 01:34 PM)
https://centgps.com.my/people-behind-centgps/
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Woot..playing racial card again?

typical umcai style...
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dont even talk about discrimination people dont want to accept ICERD lah....
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Wen pipul stole hp, they built digimall. Now pipul dowan hire them, built own company la wat else?!
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Mar 7 2019, 01:40 PM)
LUL .. this is funny...

1. All 7 candidate = same person. Only Name and race is changed on paper
2. All candidate had the same resume. Literally,
3. and yet the callback rate is totally different


4. Even with mandarin, other races got far lower callback
That's the reality of our job market.
if people think this is new and just happen 10 years ago, think again.
Way back in 1960 (before NEP was introduced) , same thing happen. Ask any 60 y/o and they will say the same.

inb4  Waiting for some Tongsan supporter to justify this. and #noICERDnoPROBLEM comment...
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Not really a surprise pun. Some people said the local deserved it since they are discriminating the nons all the time. Plus didn't sign ICERD.

So it is OK.

Nothing to see here actually. Move along.
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Mar 7 2019, 01:46 PM)
Not really a surprise pun. Some people said the local deserved it since they are discriminating the nons all the time. Plus didn't sign ICERD.

So it is OK.

Nothing to see here actually. Move along.
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so later.. gov introduce NEP 2.0 ..
people like you dont bising...
So it is OK.

Nothing to see here actually. Move along.

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did they do research on bumiputera only job requirement? putting bumi malay, against bumi non-malay
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 01:15 PM)
70% of them are chinese, mostly professionals.
Nah
So by your logic its up to the nation to accept whoever they wants?
So dun cry bout discrimination while you are doing it to other people. It goes both ways.
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Nation and private company are totally different dude..all races paid their taxes to the country..and yet only one race benefit from it the most..as for private, well, their own money anyway, so up to them the wanna hire who right..they can hire bangala/jepunis/nika as they want.
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Racism is everywhere..no need argue using icerd point..
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Macha got it worst. Even Minachi got it better.  shakehead.gif
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What to do. Racist in denial. Ok to do to others but when kena icerd mana icerd.
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Mar 7 2019, 01:37 PM)
PEOPLE BEHIND CENT-GPS
A certain someone from this research house is an UMNO youth chief and member of the supreme council. Considering the modus operandi of the day of UMNO operators today, this suits their agenda perfectly.

And senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin was BN Youth executive secretary.
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...-fulltime-jobs/

Looks like UMNO plotting for the races to clash again...
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could be a bigger picture move along racial lines; so many hina religion cases, and then this, many more to come i guess

divide and conquer
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Macha got it worst. Even Minachi got it better.  shakehead.gif
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There is no info on the companies at all.

Local company can mean bumi company (operations in Malaysia) or chinaman company (operations in Malaysia). Or even macha company, but this one normally very small.

Or the company is foreign. Branch in Malaysia but HQ elsewhere with global operations.

If no info on this one, then the survey is 100% invalid.

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QUOTE(tsunade @ Mar 7 2019, 12:50 PM)
these Malays and Indians in their survey are mandarin speakers as well?
how about banana Chinese?
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Mar 7 2019, 01:46 PM)
Wen pipul stole hp, they built digimall. Now pipul dowan hire them, built own company la wat else?!
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QUOTE(dagnarus @ Mar 7 2019, 01:50 PM)
What to do. Racist in denial. Ok to do to others but when kena icerd mana icerd.
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could be a bigger picture move along racial lines; so many hina religion cases, and then this, many more to come i guess

divide and conquer
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Mar 7 2019, 01:52 PM)
There is no info on the companies at all.

Local company can mean bumi company (operations in Malaysia) or chinaman company (operations in Malaysia).

Or the company is foreign. Branch in Malaysia but HQ elsewhere with global operations.

If no info on this one, then the survey is 100% void.
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UMNO senator is behind this think tank

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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 7 2019, 01:25 PM)
same skills and qualifications

chinaman company?
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If whole company is talking in chinese only, of course la i prefer hiring chinese people so easy dealing with.

This also consider discrimination bodoh betul these type of think tank.
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ICERD ada tapi mati dibantah bantah ... ngoks.
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Ciu, they fake the study also no one know la
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Mar 7 2019, 01:55 PM)
If whole company is talking in chinese only, of course la i prefer hiring chinese people so easy dealing with.

This also consider discrimination bodoh betul these type of think tank.
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Considering the background of the researcher now, I am having doubts whether the research was even carried out... or all goreng to their taste only.
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 01:15 PM)
70% of them are chinese, mostly professionals.
Nah
So by your logic its up to the nation to accept whoever they wants?
So dun cry bout discrimination while you are doing it to other people. It goes both ways.
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But but but, msia dah lama discriminate against its own msian rakyat. Bumi and non bumi

When non bumi asked for EQUAL rights, straight away no, plotek, Haram, balik sini Sana, keluar msia, bulan 5

Remember that msia special rights is right out of birth while language, are learnable if you want and if
Tat company no accept, find another..

But sama sama Malaysia rakyat, non bumi can never LEARN bumi rights

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So many denials in here
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Mar 7 2019, 01:57 PM)
Considering the background of the researcher now, I am having doubts whether the research was even carried out... or all goreng to their taste only.
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Their simple conclusion is salah PH.

And most importantly to divide out Malays and make them feel discriminated by current government.
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Mar 7 2019, 01:54 PM)
https://centgps.com.my/people-behind-centgps/
UMNO senator is behind this think tank

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they haven't disclose which job field is it on right
im more interested on that
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Yeap. They come and plotek in droves.

While hard to swallow this is the reality on the ground.
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Mar 7 2019, 01:58 PM)
So many denials in here
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Yalor.

Got previous research also showing the same result.

Even Malay company also discriminate against malay... why ho?
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Mar 7 2019, 01:54 PM)
https://centgps.com.my/people-behind-centgps/
UMNO senator is behind this think tank

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Ok, so outed as just one of those FAKE ass "think tanks" who is funded behind the back by some party.

All this fake think tanks should be closed down.
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What methodoloy they use? All candidates same content but with different face? If a company read 6 same resume they must be thinking that it is a prank.
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QUOTE(Hidan @ Mar 7 2019, 02:06 PM)
What methodoloy they use? All candidates same content  but with different face? If a company read 6 same resume they must be thinking that it is a prank.
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but still only callback the chinese hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 7 2019, 02:07 PM)
but still only callback the chinese  hmm.gif
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Was there a callback or that is what the researcher says only? He is UMNO after all....
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kan ada anti-icerd?
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 7 2019, 02:07 PM)
but still only callback the chinese  hmm.gif
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Whether really call back nobody knows for sure. We taking word from some think thank that is hell bent on finding racism in the country after all.
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Mar 7 2019, 02:08 PM)
Was there a callback or that is what the researcher says only? He is UMNO after all....
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QUOTE(Hidan @ Mar 7 2019, 02:09 PM)
Whether really call back nobody knows for sure. We taking word from some think thank that is hell bent on finding racism in the country after all.
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if it was fake research then they would have said malays face the worst discrimination instead of indians
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Mar 7 2019, 01:48 PM)
so later.. gov introduce NEP 2.0 ..
people like you dont bising...
So it is OK.

Nothing to see here actually. Move along.
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If you must know, I'm a malay too.

This kind of thread, there will always be pro and against that will argue with each other throwing everything that they can get their hands on at each other. All of us are inherently racist to begin with because we always want to be identify with our race. And no matter how you perceive yourself as a liberal, non-racist or open minded, you're still deep down inside, want to be identified with certain race in your blood.

So here; take this spanners, crowbar, bricks, stones, sea urchins, cats, dogs, used condoms, used diapers and shoes, keep throwing at each other until your heart content.

p/s: I don't mean you alone bro. It's everyone of us here.

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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:56 PM)
unfortunately yes, cause gov give tongkat to them, so when in same ground battle, of course they lose out. cause they so use to tongkat and lost its competitive.
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So, you're saying, without tongkat Malays are incompetitive? hmm.gif
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all cainis and indian pls apply to govt/glc sector, and see if you get callback
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if it was fake research then they would have said malays face the worst discrimination instead of indians
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The dont care malay number 2 or number 3. They just want to stir hatred against Chinese only in this case... rest of the details are just hiasan
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:40 PM)
The survey was an experimental study in which Cent-GPS researchers posed as different applicants from all three major ethnic groups, but with the same qualifications and other criteria deemed necessary to make them prime candidates.

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LOL-ed at "experiment" study. researchers these days very scientific. such qualitative result also dare to post out, don't even have a quantitative measurement on the "same" qualifications and other criteria.

i would dare the researcher to find 2 individual that have "same" qualifications and other criteria. if there we such thing there won't be sports/competition where only one person/team wins, just throw a dime.

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QUOTE(frossonice @ Mar 7 2019, 02:13 PM)
If you must know, I'm a malay too.

This kind of thread, there will always be pro and against that will argue with each other throwing everything that they can get their hands on at each other. All of us are inherently racist to begin with because we always want to be identify with our race. And no matter how you perceive yourself as a liberal, non-racist or open minded, you're still deep down inside, want to be identified with certain race in your blood.

So here; take this spanners, crowbar, bricks, stones, sea urchins, cats, dogs, used condoms, used diapers and shoes, keep throwing at each other until your heart content.

p/s: I don't mean you alone bro. It's everyone of us here.
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Taking those spanners, crowbar, bricks, stones, sea urchins, cats, dogs, used condoms, used diapers and shoes, keep throwing at you until my heart content.
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Those bosses who employ people knows what they are doing. They are concern about how well their money spent, not discriminate certain race of people. Who like to take MC, work slow, you know I know lar.
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:51 PM)


Macha got it worst. Even Minachi got it better.  shakehead.gif
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blush.gif blush.gif I actually think the girl with hijab look very good... laugh.gif blush.gif
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QUOTE(Hidan @ Mar 7 2019, 02:06 PM)
What methodoloy they use? All candidates same content  but with different face? If a company read 6 same resume they must be thinking that it is a prank.
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And yet they still callback the Chinese female amidst all the prank lel
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Macha got it worst. Even Minachi got it better.  shakehead.gif
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nicola yeoh FTW mann
i dont even need to read what cock analysis result below
so u know la how hiring works around here

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Told u guys....stereotyping is the main prob for racism
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QUOTE(dagnarus @ Mar 7 2019, 02:18 PM)
And yet they still callback the Chinese female amidst all the prank lel
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Bcoz the company noe its prank so entertain these prankster
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 7 2019, 02:12 PM)
if it was fake research then they would have said malays face the worst discrimination instead of indians
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Ah, what a simpleton u are. See how they managed to get your trust just by changing the victim from Malay to Indian? They knew that if they put Malay as the worst, not many people would believe it, so they put Indian, this way the article 'sounds fair' and people would believe it.

Anyway if Chinese were so bad, Indians wouldn't be going to Singapore in the first place.
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Mar 7 2019, 12:41 PM)
Dah tolak ICERD, what to do?
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Sendiri minta diskriminasi bah.. apa lagi lu mau..owai..

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QUOTE(dagnarus @ Mar 7 2019, 02:18 PM)
And yet they still callback the Chinese female amidst all the prank lel
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Whether really call or not nobody knows for sure. I also can create my 'think tank' and produce the results i want u know.
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Kan dah tolak ICERD, what is the problem?
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Who was the original face out of all the candidates? Must be a woman.

Not bad looking for a woman.
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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Mar 7 2019, 02:20 PM)
Told u guys....stereotyping is the main prob for racism
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sohai dint want to answer own thread come here spam.

klu kurang cerdik jangan bukak mulut, buat malu je
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Whether really call or not nobody knows for sure. I also can create my 'think tank' and produce the results i want u know.
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Well let's just hope they share with us their methodology and everything else. Would be nice if academician produce their own studies like this. Then only people would tend to be more receptive. .
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I wont hire anyone from uitm, unimap, uthm... uum, um, utm r fine, no prob for me. Nothing personal, just biz
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Mar 7 2019, 02:27 PM)
sohai dint want to answer own thread come here spam.

klu kurang cerdik jangan bukak mulut, buat malu je
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Because its strawman arguement
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Actually articles like these should be investigated under fake news if they cannot produce more proof of their study.
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QUOTE(Hidan @ Mar 7 2019, 02:32 PM)
Actually articles like these should be investigated under  fake news if they cannot produce more proof of their study.
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the proof is literally on their website lol. go download the full report there

you kuat protek huh
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 01:15 PM)
So by your logic its up to the nation to accept whoever they wants?
So dun cry bout discrimination while you are doing it to other people. It goes both ways.
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Companies are private owned, Rooms or house or Apartment are privately owned.....what goes both way? smile.gif

Do you even understand what is what? You seem to have a poor understanding of things kid.

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actually study should be produce as paper and present in conference then publish, before it can be used as 'reference' in any article.
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Racism is real in employment. You can create similar jobstreet profile but different name to check yourself. You will be surprised.
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Mar 7 2019, 02:13 PM)
If you must know, I'm a malay too.

This kind of thread, there will always be pro and against that will argue with each other throwing everything that they can get their hands on at each other. All of us are inherently racist to begin with because we always want to be identify with our race. And no matter how you perceive yourself as a liberal, non-racist or open minded, you're still deep down inside, want to be identified with certain race in your blood.

So here; take this spanners, crowbar, bricks, stones, sea urchins, cats, dogs, used condoms, used diapers and shoes, keep throwing at each other until your heart content.

p/s: I don't mean you alone bro. It's everyone of us here.
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No you are wrong, I think most ppl identify themself with other who are culturally, interest, personality the same...

There are a lot of mix racial marriage, especially in borneo. I myself used to hang out with indians a lot, half my housematees are indians and i join indian football teams... Of coz these arent indians who talk tamil all the time, they are more like me liberal, tok kok and consume western media. It's something like why most boys dont mix with girls

But what I will admit is that in the absence of "really knowing each other", ppl might choose based on skin color because his brain is wired to think that that person is most similar to him and yield the best chance to be able to communicate effectively.

Now, i think the gov should allow inter-racial marriage without the need to convert.. This would remove the barrier and help race relations. Obviously we know this wont happen especially now the zealots will proclaim a holy war


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Interview is not just resume and paper, and appearance. How the candidate answer questions, body language, etc determines the results. That "research" is like it's being done by someone who did not even attend an interview before.
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my experience is there is no discrimination if u can fulfill the requirement
my ex boss want someone that can speak chinese for better communication

in the end, she hired a muslim because she fulfilled that requirement

if you're that good, no discrimination will happen to u
if you're not that good, even if everything matches..boss also will have doubt
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How about non malay in gov sector?
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What happens if Gabriel Liew is Liew Leng Chai and Nikola Yeoh is Yeoh Leng Moi?


Will their callback be different?

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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Mar 7 2019, 02:35 PM)
Interview is not just resume and paper, and appearance. How the candidate answer questions, body language, etc determines the results. That "research" is like it's being done by someone who did not even attend an interview before.
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Call back doesn’t mean will hire also
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nowadays people still put photo in resume? what age are we living in? this is malaysia... oh wai
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Takut mc / el banyak lettew....
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QUOTE(styrwr91 @ Mar 7 2019, 02:41 PM)
nowadays people still put photo in resume? what age are we living in? this is malaysia... oh wai
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The problem is no matter what, some hiring manager make assumption based on race. Making and acting on assumptions about people from a racial stereotype is a form of discrimination, ie Chinese are hard-working; Malays are lazy; Indians are thugs...

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yes correct.

By the way. That Nicola looks pretty too. That's one of the reason why her score is higher. Sad to say, but pretty girls have higher chance. Too sad for feminist, but that's one of the ugly truth with you got interviewed lustful guys, be it whatever race you are being interviewed by.

Don;t believe? Change that Malay girl into some pretty malay girl. Her score will shoot up high too
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my boss cainis,

i talk mandarin wif him, cb he reply back in english.

talk wif customer can talk mandarin.

come on, wo ke yi jiang hua yu leh. wakakakaka.
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Mar 7 2019, 12:59 PM)
Btw. I ask u gaise honestly if u got company, u wan hire Japanese or Nigerian

Sure Japanese esp female.

But if u they u will hire male Nikka... brows.gif
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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Mar 7 2019, 02:45 PM)
yes correct.

By the way. That Nicola looks pretty too. That's one of the reason why her score is higher. Sad to say, but pretty girls have higher chance. Too sad for feminist, but that's one of the ugly truth with you got interviewed lustful guys, be it whatever race you are being interviewed by.

Don;t believe? Change that Malay girl into some pretty malay girl. Her score will shoot up high too
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That’s the reality lol.

Beautiful people do earn more and are more successful in general.
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There are 3 people on the top, 1 is Deputy Faculty Dean of UM, 1 is attached to Sime Darby and the other is a Dewan Negara member from UMNO.

I have doubts about this organization.
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Mar 7 2019, 01:40 PM)
LUL .. this is funny...

1. All 7 candidate = same person. Only Name and race is changed on paper
2. All candidate had the same resume. Literally,
3. and yet the callback rate is totally different


4. Even with mandarin, other races got far lower callback
That's the reality of our job market.
if people think this is new and just happen 10 years ago, think again.
Way back in 1960 (before NEP was introduced) , same thing happen. Ask any 60 y/o and they will say the same.

inb4  Waiting for some Tongsan supporter to justify this. and #noICERDnoPROBLEM comment...
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QUOTE(evedlab @ Mar 7 2019, 02:44 PM)
The problem is no matter what, some hiring manager make assumption based on race. Making and acting on assumptions about people from a racial stereotype is a form of discrimination, ie Chinese are hard-working; Malays are lazy; Indians are thugs...
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Generalization is norm. It is the job of that candidate or that individual to change his boss' perception, not the other way around. Remember, assumption comes from generalization, where they saw a lot of examples of it happening, even if it is just 3 out of 10.


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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Mar 7 2019, 02:35 PM)
Interview is not just resume and paper, and appearance. How the candidate answer questions, body language, etc determines the results. That "research" is like it's being done by someone who did not even attend an interview before.
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this is the screening and filtering part. Even before the interview happens.

screening also ady discriminating

this is the point of this study.

QUOTE(runemastertan @ Mar 7 2019, 02:45 PM)
yes correct.

By the way. That Nicola looks pretty too. That's one of the reason why her score is higher. Sad to say, but pretty girls have higher chance. Too sad for feminist, but that's one of the ugly truth with you got interviewed lustful guys, be it whatever race you are being interviewed by.

Don;t believe? Change that Malay girl into some pretty malay girl. Her score will shoot up high too
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HAHAHA spin pakai pretty girl card pulak...

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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Mar 7 2019, 02:49 PM)
Generalization is norm. It is the job of that candidate or that individual to change his boss' perception, not the other way around. Remember, assumption comes from generalization, where they saw a lot of examples of it happening, even if it is just 3 out of 10.
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This is exactly what racism is.
Btw , how to change boss mind even before you get hired ?
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Mar 7 2019, 01:16 PM)
My company have zero indian. Because worry they rage when goring.
Malay usually diam diam go, because they also known they are not performing. And they don't tipu as indian.
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Wow so much racism in one post.
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kecian..

if fapping quality, my pick is
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b) closely followed by Zulaikha Asyiqin
c) Nikola ..

kecian..tables turned
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Mar 7 2019, 02:55 PM)
kecian..

if fapping quality, my pick is
a) Nur Sakinah
b) closely followed by Zulaikha Asyiqin
c) Nikola ..

kecian..tables turned
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u want to see discrimination, just walk into any government agency, it's so consistently clear across the whole nation.
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dint notice, all 7 person = same person? so he is trap?
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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 7 2019, 02:57 PM)
u want to see discrimination, just walk into any government agency, it's so consistently clear across the whole nation.
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What is it exactly? Care to enlighten me? Don't just spout general statements.
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The question should be why is xxx NOT hired. The question shouldn't be why is yyy hired. See yourself what qualities you bring. Stop playing the victim card.
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 02:58 PM)
What is it exactly? Care to enlighten me? Don't just spout general statements.
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it's meant for people who understand statistic, apparently not for your enlightenment purpose.

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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 02:51 PM)
this is the screening and filtering part. Even before the interview happens.

screening also ady discriminating

this is the point of this study.
HAHAHA spin pakai pretty girl card pulak...

kek
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You interview people before dude? First impression is damn important, no matter how smartass or idiot you are. There are people who are damn good in interview but can't work.

And it's not a spin. We want people who can work, but we are all just human. Candidate are "required" to wear formal dress to work. But there are always exceptions. Some girls wear their shirt in a manner that i feel they come to sell they sex appeal rather than interview for the job.

And about guys, I have seen guys who come for interview and behave like gangsta too. On photo, looked decent and normal.

That study did not portrait the real world scenario.
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Mar 7 2019, 02:55 PM)
kecian..

if fapping quality, my pick is
a) Nur Sakinah
b) closely followed by Zulaikha Asyiqin
c) Nikola ..

kecian..tables turned
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Hate to tell you this..
but all of them are a single guy.. biggrin.gif

#nohomo tongue.gif
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"no job ngam my skillset" also a form of discrimination ah?
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Didnt read?

They put same skillset in the resume but just change name only
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Indian reporting in...

No worries, just let us be your tarik kereta/besi buruk/bas & lorry/protection/doctor/lawyer/engineer machas...

We ok. We will survive, don't kacau us and we no kacau you. We got eversendai, valiram, lotus, malik streams, astro and maxis. Sekian terima kasih.


Oh and me? Senior management in China owned company. Crazy lucky I must say, but mostly cause I can yamseng alot la, wakakakaka...

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Dont put name dont put picture in cv lor
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QUOTE(evedlab @ Mar 7 2019, 02:53 PM)
This is exactly what racism is.
Btw , how to change boss mind even before you get hired ?
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My advice to you, is you don't. Normally, interview session requires you to look professional, so do that. Don't over do things, like use a liter of perfume or sorts. Keep it professional, clean and smart.

During interview time, think before you talk. Be honest, but don't talk what is not necessary. LOL

By the way, don;t hope on 1 interview. Blast out to every company you can. Try until you get, learn from each experience, but no need to feel dejected when you didn;t get that 1 job. Luck play a big factor here too
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Lol. The statistic is there. Clear as a day.
The "mandarin requirement" smokescreen.

Lepas tu lagi mau plotek?
Win liao loh.
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Mar 7 2019, 03:02 PM)
Didnt read?

They put same skillset in the resume but just change name only
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Must be like the one screening, look at name/face only. Lol
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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 7 2019, 02:59 PM)
it's meant for people who understand statistic, apparently not for your enlightenment purpose.
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ah yes, we got a smartass over here.

QUOTE(runemastertan @ Mar 7 2019, 02:59 PM)
You interview people before dude? First impression is damn important, no matter how smartass or idiot you are. There are people who are damn good in interview but can't work.

And it's not a spin. We want people who can work, but we are all just human. Candidate are "required" to wear formal dress to work. But there are always exceptions. Some girls wear their shirt in a manner that i feel they come to sell they sex appeal rather than interview for the job.

And about guys, I have seen guys who come for interview and behave like gangsta too. On photo, looked decent and normal.

That study did not portrait the real world scenario.
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Did u understand callback or not? This method of survey is they send the resume and the companies select them based on RACE! Not even by interviewing them u dumbass.

no wonder mudah keliru and spin things when you can't accept the truth.
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what about the background of those 500 companies?

if they are from the "same type", then we can conclude that "that type of companies/employers" practice discrimination in hiring.

if they are selected randomly and represent the real demographic of malaysia, does it mean all malaysian employers regardless of background prefer cainis female > cainis male > dan lain-lain?
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QUOTE(ak101ss @ Mar 7 2019, 03:04 PM)
Indian reporting in...

No worries, just let us be your tarik kereta/besi buruk/bas & lorry/protection/doctor/lawyer/engineer machas...

We ok. We will survive, don't kacau us and we no kacau you. We got eversendai, valiram, lotus, malik streams, astro and maxis. Sekian terima kasih.
Oh and me? Senior management in China owned company. Crazy lucky I must say, but mostly cause I can yamseng alot la, wakakakaka...
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hats off to you sir.


QUOTE(stopandroll @ Mar 7 2019, 03:09 PM)
Lol. The statistic is there. Clear as a day.
The "mandarin requirement" smokescreen.

Lepas tu lagi mau plotek?
Win liao loh.
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Pretty girl card sudah keluar liao
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To those butthurt, welcome to the club of being discriminated

hahahaha
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public u ada quota one bo for these ic ppl...
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QUOTE(ak101ss @ Mar 7 2019, 03:04 PM)
Indian reporting in...

No worries, just let us be your tarik kereta/besi buruk/bas & lorry/protection/doctor/lawyer/engineer machas...

We ok. We will survive, don't kacau us and we no kacau you. We got eversendai, valiram, lotus, malik streams, astro and maxis. Sekian terima kasih.
Oh and me? Senior management in China owned company. Crazy lucky I must say, but mostly cause I can yamseng alot la, wakakakaka...
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China company one of the most important skill since for them deals are not sealed in the boardroom.
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QUOTE(jetblast @ Mar 7 2019, 02:58 PM)
The question should be  why is xxx NOT hired. The question shouldn't be why is yyy hired. See yourself what qualities you bring. Stop playing the victim card.
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this study was before interview and hiring. its just callback based on race. Kuat protek ni..
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 03:11 PM)
hats off to you sir.
Pretty girl card sudah keluar liao
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Whatever you said to them, the same card will appear again.
And you can see who the racist among all in short time.
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QUOTE(ak101ss @ Mar 7 2019, 03:04 PM)
Indian reporting in...

No worries, just let us be your tarik kereta/besi buruk/bas & lorry/protection/doctor/lawyer/engineer machas...

We ok. We will survive, don't kacau us and we no kacau you. We got eversendai, valiram, lotus, malik streams, astro and maxis. Sekian terima kasih.
Oh and me? Senior management in China owned company. Crazy lucky I must say, but mostly cause I can yamseng alot la, wakakakaka...
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Ah, the token fun loving diversity macha role
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For those who may have missed it, this "study" is done by a (former?) BN Youth executive secretary from a research house co-headed by UMNO Youth Chief and Supreme Council member.

Up to you go judge the credibility of this study...


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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:40 PM)
KUALA LUMPUR, March 7 — Malays and Indians are more likely to experience discrimination when applying for jobs in the private sector, especially women of the two ethnicities, a survey by a think tank found.

The Centre for Governance and Political Studies said its study concluded that Malays and Indians face more hurdles to secure job interviews compared to Mandarin-speaking Chinese applicants who topped all callback rates from hiring companies.

The survey was an experimental study in which Cent-GPS researchers posed as different applicants from all three major ethnic groups, but with the same qualifications and other criteria deemed necessary to make them prime candidates.

“We found there is ethnic discrimination... Malays, yes, but the Indians suffer the worst,” Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said at a media briefing here.

Inb4 sign icerd 1stsos
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The real question is who runs "CentGPS"?

This guy:

user posted image

Of course findings gonna be Cina RASIS!!!

Fucking useless poll which is biased.
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:51 PM)


Macha got it worst. Even Minachi got it better.  shakehead.gif
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Don't be fooled.

Look at who ran the survey and his dodgy as fark background.

Macam tanya Donald Trump jalankan survey: "How much benefit Muslims bring to USA"?
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QUOTE(mekboyz @ Mar 7 2019, 03:15 PM)
this study was before interview and hiring. its just callback based on race. Kuat protek ni..
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Already been explained that they're using the same resume and have the same skillset, hell all can even can converse in mandarin.

stupiak plotekters gonna ploteks

inb4 dunno how many reports already been made in dis tered

if this tered is nuked then it just showed how some ppl or mod can't handle the truth.
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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:56 PM)
unfortunately yes, cause gov give tongkat to them, so when in same ground battle, of course they lose out. cause they so use to tongkat and lost its competitive.
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dey, Indian mana ada tongkat?
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 03:19 PM)
The real question is who runs "CentGPS"?

This guy:

user posted image

Of course findings gonna be Cina RASIS!!!

Fucking useless poll which is biased.
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ah now biased poll card sudah keluar........
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They need to waste time & money to study this?

Everyone knows jobmarket is stereotype as fuark, Indians at least no this fact. Doubt any is naive enough to go applying without being aware the odds are waaaay stacked against them
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Karma.

You discriminate someone on other sectors, and you expect the one to be discriminated to stay happy ?

Ask yourself one question, if you are always BULLIED would you be happy ?


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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 7 2019, 03:18 PM)
Ah, the token fun loving diversity macha role
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I can be serious, but sure kena hantam by mod la...

As far as I can see, Indian unemployed end up doing odd jobs (driver lorry/technician/runner) or worst case crime... Crime is like our version of MLM/HYIP, high risk = high instant returns/get fucked ASAP
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QUOTE(leonhang @ Mar 7 2019, 03:23 PM)
Karma.

You discriminate someone on other sectors, and you expect the one to be discriminated to stay happy ?

Ask yourself one question, if you are always BULLIED would you be happy ?
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And so its okay to discriminate others just because you were discriminated?

That's just a low IQ mentality right there.

The hate cycle will go on and on until the world ends.
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Why not survey govt agencies & glcs ? .. owaii
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QUOTE(leonhang @ Mar 7 2019, 03:23 PM)
Karma.

You discriminate someone on other sectors, and you expect the one to be discriminated to stay happy ?

Ask yourself one question, if you are always BULLIED would you be happy ?
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Ahh. Karma pulak.
Now seems that you agree that discrimination exist in here la.
Then you mean Indian also bullied you?
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ah now biased poll card sudah keluar........
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You call this a "card"?

Methodology x release.
Survey paper x release.
List of companies polled x release.
Time resume sent and min callback waiting period x release.
What type of companies did they send to? Coway? Amway? Petronas? Maybank? Genting?

Survey kerepot la ni bahalol.

I also can run a survey.

Send Malay guy resume Monday morning 9AM wait for callbacks till Sunday midnight.
Send Chinese girl resume Friday 4PM wait for callbacks till Sunday night.

Guess who will have more responses?

Also which companies they send to can play a big part in results. Send muslim name to Genting croupier job you think will get callback?
Send Chinese name to kerja at JAKIM will get call back?
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QUOTE(ak101ss @ Mar 7 2019, 03:24 PM)
I can be serious, but sure kena hantam by mod la...

As far as I can see, Indian unemployed end up doing odd jobs (driver lorry/technician/runner) or worst case crime... Crime is like our version of MLM/HYIP, high risk = high instant returns/get fucked ASAP
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Isn't it the same for just anyone? Not just an Indian thingy....
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Already been explained that they're using the same resume and have the same skillset, hell all can even can converse in mandarin.

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You sure? Didn't see any survey methodology (detailed version) being released.

Setakat bullshit on twitter - anyone also can do.
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 03:10 PM)
ah yes, we got a smartass over here.
Did u understand callback or not? This method of survey is they send the resume and the companies select them based on RACE! Not even by interviewing them u dumbass.

no wonder mudah keliru and spin things when you can't accept the truth.
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And i am telling you this method of survey is idiotic. There is a requirement for mandarin language. That tells a lot. Generally people will associate those who can speak mandarin as their mother tongue better than others. Same goes for malay, we associate them to be better in Malay language better than non malays. If you interviewed people before, you will know that resume does not show everything, and resume usually are blown out of proportion by those who compose it.

If you wanna associate everything with race, go ahead. Rather than finding a solution to increase the ability of your RACE, you chose to blame and point finger. Good luck

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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 03:25 PM)
And so its okay to discriminate others just because you were discriminated?

That's just a low IQ mentality right there.

The hate cycle will go on and on until the world ends.
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Never Did I say it's Okay so yes a perfect Straw Man just happened. It is the human nature. You are not HIM

Oh and Ad Hominem too. Funny because you just happened to be the person who you hate

Just like Communism failed because it goes against human nature while Capitalism is adopted because it is human nature.

That's the reality
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 03:19 PM)
The real question is who runs "CentGPS"?

This guy:

user posted image

Of course findings gonna be Cina RASIS!!!

Fucking useless poll which is biased.
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Ah, when it is not sided in your favor, it is biased.

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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Mar 7 2019, 03:28 PM)
Isn't it the same for just anyone? Not just an Indian thingy....
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Not by much, cause chinese can always run to a chinaman SME and earn adequate pay, malay got govt/glc/polis/tentera/teksi..


Not many SMEs owned by Indians to take refuge in, but on-the-street gangsters/enforcers are mainly Indians, so they sure hire Indians lo.
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Ahh. Karma pulak.
Now seems that you agree that discrimination exist in here la.
Then you mean Indian also bullied you?
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Yet another Straw Man.

You reap what you sow.
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 03:28 PM)
You call this a "card"?

Methodology x release.
Survey paper x release.
List of companies polled x release.
Time resume sent and min callback waiting period x release.
What type of companies did they send to? Coway? Amway? Petronas? Maybank? Genting?

Survey kerepot la ni bahalol.

I also can run a survey.

Send Malay guy resume Monday morning 9AM wait for callbacks till Sunday midnight.
Send Chinese girl resume Friday 4PM wait for callbacks till Sunday night.

Guess who will have more responses?

Also which companies they send to can play a big part in results. Send muslim name to Genting croupier job you think will get callback?
Send Chinese name to kerja at JAKIM will get call back?
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 03:19 PM)
The real question is who runs "CentGPS"?

This guy:

user posted image

Of course findings gonna be Cina RASIS!!!

Fucking useless poll which is biased.
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No wonder....UMNO.

lel.
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 03:28 PM)
You call this a "card"?

Methodology x release.
Survey paper x release.
List of companies polled x release.
Time resume sent and min callback waiting period x release.
What type of companies did they send to? Coway? Amway? Petronas? Maybank? Genting?


Survey kerepot la ni bahalol.

I also can run a survey.

Send Malay guy resume Monday morning 9AM wait for callbacks till Sunday midnight.
Send Chinese girl resume Friday 4PM wait for callbacks till Sunday night.

Guess who will have more responses?

Also which companies they send to can play a big part in results. Send muslim name to Genting croupier job you think will get callback?
Send Chinese name to kerja at JAKIM will get call back?
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Betul, bro. When just post some graphs without an explanation on the methodology, dodgy as fuck.
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Ah, when it is not sided in your favor, it is biased.
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No, it is biased because the person who runs it has an agenda and is not a qualified pollster anyway.

Lain lah kalau survey UM. Stop BSing.
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QUOTE(ak101ss @ Mar 7 2019, 03:24 PM)
I can be serious, but sure kena hantam by mod la...

As far as I can see, Indian unemployed end up doing odd jobs (driver lorry/technician/runner) or worst case crime... Crime is like our version of MLM/HYIP, high risk = high instant returns/get fucked ASAP
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All race do this la.
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 03:33 PM)
No, it is biased because the person who runs it has an agenda and is not a qualified pollster anyway.

Lain lah kalau survey UM. Stop BSing.
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he never mention which company he send the resume too also. maybe he send application to long kei, toto, sport magnum or i need house something like that
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WTF!? the girls photo oso taken from the same guy!!??

fark for a moment my kukujiao was confused!!!

omg questioning my sexuality now
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Who's the original?

The Chinese guy?
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 03:28 PM)
You call this a "card"?

Methodology x release.
Survey paper x release.
List of companies polled x release.
Time resume sent and min callback waiting period x release.
What type of companies did they send to? Coway? Amway? Petronas? Maybank? Genting?

Survey kerepot la ni bahalol.

I also can run a survey.

Send Malay guy resume Monday morning 9AM wait for callbacks till Sunday midnight.
Send Chinese girl resume Friday 4PM wait for callbacks till Sunday night.

Guess who will have more responses?

Also which companies they send to can play a big part in results. Send muslim name to Genting croupier job you think will get callback?
Send Chinese name to kerja at JAKIM will get call back?
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+1 Like. rclxms.gif

TS Amacam?
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I tot last time got some Msian lecturer, got do some kind of this study. He sent out fake resumes, the resumes contain similar education, experience, skills, etc and only different is race. And then the Chinese resume has the highest interview invitation. Indian the last.
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QUOTE(keny2020j @ Mar 7 2019, 03:34 PM)
he never mention which company he send the resume too also. maybe he send application to long kei, toto, sport magnum or i need house something like that
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Of course he won't mention lah.

He is from Pemuda UMNO. Not just ordinary member - executive secretary some more.

Do you think he will ever run an unbiased survey?

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QUOTE(ak101ss @ Mar 7 2019, 03:31 PM)
Not by much, cause chinese can always run to a chinaman SME and earn adequate pay, malay got govt/glc/polis/tentera/teksi..
Not many SMEs owned by Indians to take refuge in, but on-the-street gangsters/enforcers are mainly Indians, so they sure hire Indians lo.
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Ok got you... yea, Indians probably have less social net to catch them when they fall. Hence, I always advocate that the government have to help based on needs and not skin color.
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 03:37 PM)
Of course he won't mention lah.

He is from Pemuda UMNO. Not just ordinary member - executive secretary some more.

Do you think he will ever run an unbiased survey?

user posted image
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normal dumbno sop, accuse without evidence then demand themself to prove innocence. if fail bring race or religion card
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 03:29 PM)
You sure? Didn't see any survey methodology (detailed version) being released.

Setakat bullshit on twitter - anyone also can do.
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tu lah suruh baca habis xnak.

they said that they gonna release the full study on their website later.

wait lah sikit....xkan butthurt sangat sampai tak boleh tunggu?
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 03:33 PM)
No, it is biased because the person who runs it has an agenda and is not a qualified pollster anyway.

Lain lah kalau survey UM. Stop BSing.
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actually the survey/experiment is not biased. it is a load of crap. only thick face people call it an 'experimental study'.
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QUOTE(rd33 @ Mar 7 2019, 03:37 PM)
I tot last time got some Msian lecturer, got do some kind of this study. He sent out fake resumes, the resumes contain similar education, experience, skills, etc and only different is race. And then the Chinese resume has the highest interview invitation. Indian the last.
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And some study did find that even some malay companies discriminate against malay candidates.

so if such a case happen, is the cause racism or stereotyping?

found it:
https://says.com/my/news/race-and-graduate-...s-discriminated

malay company call chinese candidate 1.6 times more than malay

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QUOTE(ycs @ Mar 7 2019, 01:13 PM)
just based on callbacks alone=discrimination:x

what about their skills/qualifications?
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read bro...read properly.....kids these days..

The survey was an experimental study in which Cent-GPS researchers posed as seven different applicants from all three major ethnic groups, but with the same qualifications and other criteria deemed necessary to make them prime candidates.""


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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Mar 7 2019, 03:36 PM)
Who's the original?

The Chinese guy?
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yes it seems to be him
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QUOTE(Lord Tiki Mick @ Mar 7 2019, 03:13 PM)
So, you're saying, without tongkat Malays are incompetitive? hmm.gif
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i guess the point is if take away tongkat, there have more competition and will make themselves competitive to survive outside.
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 03:28 PM)
You call this a "card"?

Methodology x release.
Survey paper x release.
List of companies polled x release.
Time resume sent and min callback waiting period x release.
What type of companies did they send to? Coway? Amway? Petronas? Maybank? Genting?

Survey kerepot la ni bahalol.

I also can run a survey.

Send Malay guy resume Monday morning 9AM wait for callbacks till Sunday midnight.
Send Chinese girl resume Friday 4PM wait for callbacks till Sunday night.

Guess who will have more responses?

Also which companies they send to can play a big part in results. Send muslim name to Genting croupier job you think will get callback?
Send Chinese name to kerja at JAKIM will get call back?
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woi bangang

kat twitter tu summary findings la bahalol

"Our full report will be available for FREE on http://www.centgps.com.my ."



nak plotek pun agak agak la


abis tu study ni kau nak cakap research kerepot jugak ke?

Study by Uni.Malaya-hiring practice in private sector Chinese hv 5.3 times chance called 4 interview with same edu bcgrnd n result. Chinese paid 23% higher on average compared to Bumi. Hiring practice discrimination in private sector whr 85% of jobs offrd in cntry

Lee Hwok Aun & Muhamed Abd Khalid-Does Race Matter in Getting an Interview? A field study on hiring discrimination in Peninsular Malaysia. Dvelopment Studies UM

READ HERE LA

dah ada official research from UM dah pun....this new research is just to extend the findings

bodo punya puak plotek ni.

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Even if we assume his data is accurate, they fact that most chinese/indian applicants can speak more languages already set them apart as superior candidates.
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read bro...read properly.....kids these days..

The survey was an experimental study in which Cent-GPS researchers posed as seven different applicants from all three major ethnic groups, but with the same qualifications and other criteria deemed necessary to make them prime candidates.""
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Can they release an actual CV they sent plus the job advertisement?

Where did they source the job postings? Mudah or Linkedin?
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Dr. Hamidin Abdul Hamid
Dr. Hamidin holds a PhD in Oriental and African Studies from the UK. He is an expert in public policy and administration, history and Southeast Asian Studies. He is the Deputy Dean of the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences in University Malaya, Kuala Lumpur.

Dr. Renard Siew
Renard is a graduate of Cambridge University and the University of New South Wales, Australia. In 2013, he was selected to attend the PhD academy at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. His research interest lies in sustainability/integrated reporting, socially responsible investment (across different asset classes: equities, infrastructure and property/real estate), climate change and sustainable construction for the building/infrastructure sector.

2 other people behind CENT-GPS
I trust Dr. Hamidin and Dr. Renard...
but i dont trust Khairul Azwan
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These kind of studies should have 3rd party audit one, else it can be manipulated one.
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QUOTE(ak101ss @ Mar 7 2019, 03:24 PM)
I can be serious, but sure kena hantam by mod la...

As far as I can see, Indian unemployed end up doing odd jobs (driver lorry/technician/runner) or worst case crime... Crime is like our version of MLM/HYIP, high risk = high instant returns/get fucked ASAP
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Lol u know I know whistling.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 03:42 PM)
woi bangang

kat twitter tu summary findings la bahalol

"Our full report will be available for FREE on http://www.centgps.com.my ."
nak plotek pun agak agak la
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Link to report?

England fail patutla no callback.

"Our full report WILL xxxx" meaning report not out yet. But you can already draw conclusion that discrimination occurs?
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 12:52 PM)
Later dah sign icerd buat jugak

Kek
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QUOTE(Hidan @ Mar 7 2019, 03:43 PM)
These kind of studies should have 3rd party audit one, else it can be manipulated one.
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Nothing to manipulate lol, it's common sense
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 03:44 PM)
Link to report?

England fail patutla no callback.

"Our full report WILL xxxx" meaning report not out yet. But you can already draw conclusion that discrimination occurs?
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kau tak faham english ke lanjiao? Dah disebut WILL. maksudnya full report akan dikeluarkan. For those yang nak tau study methods, etc.

kat twitter ni summary findings aje.
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tu la tak sign icerd lagi ojwai~
siapa yg sebenarnya racist?
sarahan siapa pula?
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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Mar 7 2019, 03:46 PM)
tu la tak sign icerd lagi ojwai~
siapa yg sebenarnya racist?
sarahan siapa pula?
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boring la alasan ni bang

balik balik sape suruh tak sign icerd

bagi la alasan lain lagi

alasan nak hire sebab girl tu cantik aku lagi suka

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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 03:46 PM)
kau tak faham english ke lanjiao? Dah disebut WILL. maksudnya full report akan dikeluarkan. For those yang nak tau study methods, etc.

kat twitter ni summary findings aje.
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Hehehe so? U want gov to force hiring quota in private sector based on race?
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 03:46 PM)
kau tak faham english ke lanjiao? Dah disebut WILL. maksudnya full report akan dikeluarkan. For those yang nak tau study methods, etc.

kat twitter ni summary findings aje.
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Meaning saja nak jump to conclusions la. Meaning TS admit sendiri sohai.

Here is a look at their extensive (LOL) research and publication history. All of 4 report and england fail (should be publicationS):

https://centgps.com.my/publication/

Clearly a reputable upstanding organization. doh.gif
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kadang kadang tak percaya saya sendiri bodoh, bila cermin diri sendiri ahh baru faham yang aku ni bodoh weii. Ada sesiapa disini macam saya tak?
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 03:47 PM)
boring la alasan ni bang

balik balik sape suruh tak sign icerd

bagi la alasan lain lagi

alasan nak hire sebab girl tu cantik aku lagi suka
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kau tak boleh baca sarcasm ke?
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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Mar 7 2019, 03:50 PM)
kau tak boleh baca sarcasm ke?
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reply aku pun sarcasm kek
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woi bangang

kat twitter tu summary findings la bahalol

"Our full report will be available for FREE on http://www.centgps.com.my ."
nak plotek pun agak agak la
abis tu study ni kau nak cakap research kerepot jugak ke?

Study by Uni.Malaya-hiring practice in private sector Chinese hv 5.3 times chance called 4 interview with same edu bcgrnd n result. Chinese paid 23% higher on average compared to Bumi. Hiring practice discrimination in private sector whr 85% of jobs offrd in cntry

Lee Hwok Aun & Muhamed Abd Khalid-Does Race Matter in Getting an Interview? A field study on hiring discrimination in Peninsular Malaysia. Dvelopment Studies UM

READ HERE LA

dah ada official research from UM dah pun....this new research is just to extend the findings

bodo punya puak plotek ni.
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Malas baca,
Kuat plotek.

Lepas tu ICERD sampai sudah.
Tu ada UM research? Ke still not valid?

Lepas tu deemed that "ini bukan real world result".
Tulah rasis sampai jadi bodoh.
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I applied 60 jobs on Jobstreet a year ago, not even 1 callback, if this study is true, i should have already jumped ship and getting my RM 5000 salary

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Unsurprising.

Even if the survey was 'biased'... the reality is real.

Why? Because I am also part of the candidate selection process albeit just to see how well the candidate can interact, not the big questions.

I think so far mostly Chinese hires, Malay zero, Indian zero.

F*** they even hired freshie Chinese over a more experienced Malay/Indian? I can't brain.

I don't have a say in the final selection sadly.

To be honest, this is the case worldwide.

What I also notice is that the ones with English names = higher chances of being hired. And of course, your 'origin'. sweat.gif

Sad reality.

My advice - - Malaysia has no hope if you're gunning for ultimate success. Jump ship and earn $$$ and never look back. Easier said than done, but I have a few colleagues who have done that. Me? Still looking for a better job.


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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Mar 7 2019, 03:55 PM)
Unsurprising.

Even if the survey was 'biased'... the reality is real.

Why? Because I am also part of the candidate selection process albeit just to see how well the candidate can interact, not the big questions.

I think so far mostly Chinese hires, Malay zero, Indian zero.

F*** they even hired freshie Chinese over a more experienced Malay/Indian? I can't brain.

I don't have a say in the final selection sadly.

To be honest, this is the case worldwide.

What I also notice is that the ones with English names = higher chances of being hired. And of course, your 'origin'.  sweat.gif

Sad reality.

My advice - - Malaysia has no hope if you're gunning for ultimate success. Jump ship and earn $$$ and never look back. Easier said than done, but I have a few colleagues who have done that. Me? Still looking for a better job.
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What I also notice is that the ones with English names = higher chances of being hired. And of course, your 'origin'
Bertrand, M. and Mullainathan, S. (2004). „Are Emily and Greg more employable than Lakisha
and Jamal? A field experiment on labour market discrimination‟, American Economic
Review, Vol. 94, pp. 991-1013

Bursell, M. (2007). „What‟s in a name? A field experiment test for the existence of ethnic
discrimination in the hiring process‟, Working Paper7, Stockholm: The Stockholm
University Linnaeus Centre for Integration Studies.

It exist. Don't act like the discrimination is not there.
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And yet GLCssssssss are still practicing that.

How many GLCs are in Malaysia?

1 or 2?

Who are they hiring?

Oh wait a minute, are you implying they do not advertise, hence not in this biased report?

If they are in this report, why is GLCs doing the same thing?


Pakai la otak. Otak dekat mana?
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/29...ing_in_malaysia

Another study that show the same, Chinese candidate enjoys better callback rate than Malay

Surprising findings here is:
Chinese controlled company tend to call back Malay candidate more than Malay controlled company at 3.8% vs 3.4%
Malay controlled company call back Chinese candidate more than Malay candidate at 5.5% vs 3.4%

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QUOTE(stopandroll @ Mar 7 2019, 03:59 PM)
What I also notice is that the ones with English names = higher chances of being hired. And of course, your 'origin'
Bertrand, M. and Mullainathan, S. (2004). „Are Emily and Greg more employable than Lakisha
and Jamal? A field experiment on labour market discrimination‟, American Economic
Review, Vol. 94, pp. 991-1013

Bursell, M. (2007). „What‟s in a name? A field experiment test for the existence of ethnic
discrimination in the hiring process‟, Working Paper7, Stockholm: The Stockholm
University Linnaeus Centre for Integration Studies.

It exist. Don't act like the discrimination is not there.
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That's the US though.

I think hiring discrimination exists in MY, but mainly in the smaller organizations (Sdn Bhd).

The real discrimination is the pay discrimination for so-called "elite" foreign grads. Balik Australia fresh grad = RM2.5 - 3k. MY fresh grad = RM2.3k take it or leave it.

That has much more impact since you're starting 10-25% lower salary vs your peer.
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TS posting. Non stop from 9am and even went to collect his phone.

And he is now asking question why discrimination.

Otak mana?

Either you are makan ular now or you are jobless, hence the butthurt, so which one?
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I applied 60 jobs on Jobstreet a year ago, not even 1 callback, if this study is true, i should have already jumped ship and getting my RM 5000 salary
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QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 7 2019, 04:04 PM)
TS posting. Non stop from 9am and even went to collect his phone.

And he is now asking question why discrimination.

Otak mana?

Either you are makan ular now or you are jobless, hence the butthurt, so which one?
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Mar 7 2019, 04:02 PM)
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/29...ing_in_malaysia

Another study that show the same, Chinese candidate enjoys better callback rate than Malay

Surprising findings here is:
Chinese controlled company tend to call back Malay candidate more than Malay controlled company at 3.8% vs 3.4%
Malay controlled company call back Chinese candidate more than Malay candidate at 5.5% vs 3.4%
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This paper I believe - I read parts of it.

Very useful but IMHO varies from industry to industry.

In IT or Eng you can be a weed-smoking, flaming LGBT nudist who is also a member of the Taliban, but if you are technically capable plus reliable and somewhat recognized in industry, you will get a job.
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QUOTE(rd33 @ Mar 7 2019, 03:37 PM)
I tot last time got some Msian lecturer, got do some kind of this study. He sent out fake resumes, the resumes contain similar education, experience, skills, etc and only different is race. And then the Chinese resume has the highest interview invitation. Indian the last.
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but K chinese will always protek...
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Hiring practice discrimination in private sector whr 85% of jobs offrd in cntry

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Mar 7 2019, 03:55 PM)
Unsurprising.

Even if the survey was 'biased'... the reality is real.

Why? Because I am also part of the candidate selection process albeit just to see how well the candidate can interact, not the big questions.

I think so far mostly Chinese hires, Malay zero, Indian zero.

F*** they even hired freshie Chinese over a more experienced Malay/Indian? I can't brain.

I don't have a say in the final selection sadly.

To be honest, this is the case worldwide.

What I also notice is that the ones with English names = higher chances of being hired. And of course, your 'origin'.  sweat.gif

Sad reality.

My advice - - Malaysia has no hope if you're gunning for ultimate success. Jump ship and earn $$$ and never look back. Easier said than done, but I have a few colleagues who have done that. Me? Still looking for a better job.
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I usually discriminate ppl who don't have the balls to run naked though...
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The conclusion that I've come to from this tered is everyone will say their race not racist and will try their darnest to support their own race or whatever their bias is lah.

It's really as simple as that I reckon.
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Mar 7 2019, 04:02 PM)

Surprising findings here is:
Chinese controlled company tend to call back Malay candidate more than Malay controlled company at 3.8% vs 3.4%
Malay controlled company call back Chinese candidate more than Malay candidate at 5.5% vs 3.4%
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I senang senang ur brain for this = lower salary for same job , Malayu easiest satisfied
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There are millions of different job existed. Why need to select only one job if you cannot even compete?
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but K chinese will always protek...
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The previous survey is most likely unbiased. The margin of error plus the range of the differences in opinion (X received 5.2% vs 3% callbacks) plus broken down between large corporate, SME, etc is believable methodology.

This pula X received 240, Y received 20 - definitely fishy as fuck.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Mar 7 2019, 04:12 PM)
The conclusion that I've come to from this tered is everyone will say their race not racist and will try their darnest to support their own race or whatever their bias is lah.

It's really as simple as that I reckon.
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plotek bang... mesti plotek sampai mati... sendiri racist tp nak point out org laim racist

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yes it seems to be him
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But dang the girls look cute wtf

And the Indian guy had asymmetrical eyes = creepy look

Real legit studies show humans have preference to symmetrical faces

Even when you don't look straight front, it can have some effect
Maybe deswai nikola took top call back
Only one looking properly in front
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Mar 7 2019, 04:12 PM)
The conclusion that I've come to from this tered is everyone will say their race not racist and will try their darnest to support their own race or whatever their bias is lah.

It's really as simple as that I reckon.
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you're a mod you know that already even without this thread.
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 04:07 PM)
This paper I believe - I read parts of it.

Very useful but IMHO varies from industry to industry.

In IT or Eng you can be a weed-smoking, flaming LGBT nudist who is also a member of the Taliban, but if you are technically capable plus reliable and somewhat recognized in industry, you will get a job.
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Can you code?
Are you willing to work on call 24/7?
Are you willing to live on pizza and coffee / mountain dew for 2 weeks during crunch project?

If answer to all 3 is yes, you can be a gay taliban crossdresser who is anti vax and we will at least try to fit you in
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kesimpulannya

plotek bang... mesti plotek sampai mati... sendiri racist tp nak point out org laim racist
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I agree.

I feel that from a scientific basis the methodology, the sampling and controls are sound, but if anything, people should be criticizing those factors rather than coming up with comical reasons to why their race isn't racist and it's all the others that are.

To be honest, I feel bad for my Indian friends either way.

QUOTE(Radioactive Infused Cola @ Mar 7 2019, 04:17 PM)
you're a mod you know that already even without this thread.
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Yeah. Sad, but in the 18 years I've been here, nothing changes. Even the faux liberals haha.
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Mar 7 2019, 04:02 PM)
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/29...ing_in_malaysia

Another study that show the same, Chinese candidate enjoys better callback rate than Malay

Surprising findings here is:
Chinese controlled company tend to call back Malay candidate more than Malay controlled company at 3.8% vs 3.4%
Malay controlled company call back Chinese candidate more than Malay candidate at 5.5% vs 3.4%
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TS forgotten there are.hundreds GLC in Malaysia.

If still not enough job then ask why GLC are not creating enough.

Instead they become Middle man to sub all the jobs to lowest bidder. Lowest bidders hire all kind of people

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Mar 7 2019, 04:12 PM)
The conclusion that I've come to from this tered is everyone will say their race not racist and will try their darnest to support their own race or whatever their bias is lah.

It's really as simple as that I reckon.
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I think this is the conclusion for all race topic.
Semua pasang shield.

Racial discrimination still exist all this years, and to deny it is futile.
The sooner we understand that why we are racist, the sooner we will find the root cause.


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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Mar 7 2019, 04:17 PM)
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plotek bang... mesti plotek sampai mati... sendiri racist tp nak point out org laim racist
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Berapa banyak GLC di luar sana?


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malay and indian staff consist 50%-70% of total staff

masa kerja semua guna bm.


so i can proudly claim that i am equal opportunities employer.
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QUOTE(stopandroll @ Mar 7 2019, 04:22 PM)
I think this is the conclusion for all race topic.
Semua pasang shield.

Racial discrimination still exist all this years, and to deny it is futile.
The sooner we understand that why we are racist, the sooner we will find the root cause.
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Root cause?

You mean when the national policy with bumi agenda is the primary topic, and you want to know what is the root cause of unemployment????
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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Mar 7 2019, 04:17 PM)
But dang the girls look cute wtf

And the Indian guy had asymmetrical eyes = creepy look

Real legit studies show humans have preference to symmetrical faces

Even when you don't look straight front, it can have some effect
Maybe deswai nikola took top call back
Only one looking properly in front
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Now that you mention this, yea i agree. who da hell takes passport photo with senget positioning one.... it should be looking straight front.

kalau take profile photo for dating website senget i can understand lah
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Mar 7 2019, 04:21 PM)
I agree.

I feel that from a scientific basis the methodology, the sampling and controls are sound, but if anything, people should be criticizing those factors rather than coming up with comical reasons to why their race isn't racist and it's all the others that are.

To be honest, I feel bad for my Indian friends either way.
Yeah. Sad, but in the 18 years I've been here, nothing changes. Even the faux liberals haha.
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Sad isnt it?

People deny their racism and refuses to change for the better future.

In their mind, "if A does it to me, then i can do it to B as well!".

Revenge and hatred cycles can only be broken by not being one in the first place.

I still see no hope judging from this tered.

And since its /k, and most ppl can post without repercussions, they are free to post their thoughts without even stopping back and think.

I hope things change especially for my indian friends out there. I know lots of them who were really skilled and good in their field. The same things happen to them in the rent/own house tered last time.

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if a company 90% foreigner/expat and 10% locals, how?

when we local bising here bising there about job hiring discriminate, Chinese, Indian and Malay. the big company laughing at you all because they discriminate local vs foreigner.
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I usually discriminate ppl who don't have the balls to run naked though...
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There is a discrimination against Malay candidate. Agree.

But this study and the following press conference made a very premature conclusion:
Zaidel said the findings point to clear race-based discrimination in ethnic Chinese-dominated private sector employment, a taboo subject that often fuel racially-charged debates.
Without showing the breakdown of the hiring company as compare to Hock-Aun Lee study --> which suggest even Malay controlled company discriminate against Malay company even more; with the tendency to call back Chinese candidate 1.6x more than Malay.

So a race based discrimination is there, but the earlier study suggest it is due to a stereotype instead of racism.

It is an art to mix fact and fiction together to mislead and fool the public.
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Root cause?

You mean when the national policy with bumi agenda is the primary topic, and you want to know what is the root cause of unemployment????
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And you hate national policy on bumi agenda?
Ah. Explain a lot.

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QUOTE(stopandroll @ Mar 7 2019, 04:33 PM)
And you hate national policy on bumi agenda?
Ah. Explain a lot.

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Well that policy follow the motto that all men are equal some are more equal than other
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QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 7 2019, 04:22 PM)
TS forgotten there are.hundreds GLC in Malaysia.

If still not enough job then ask why GLC are not creating enough.

Instead they become Middle man to sub all the jobs to lowest bidder. Lowest bidders hire all kind of people
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I have no idea what GLCs have to do with this study or how it affects the methodology.

In the immortal words of Pauline Hanson "Please explain"

QUOTE(stopandroll @ Mar 7 2019, 04:22 PM)
I think this is the conclusion for all race topic.
Semua pasang shield.

Racial discrimination still exist all this years, and to deny it is futile.
The sooner we understand that why we are racist, the sooner we will find the root cause.
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Yeah, we all have to admit it. I do. I know I am effin racist. Especially against aboriginals after 2 years in Darwin.

The worst of our lot though is the NIMBY who screams "NO RACISM!" and then when it comes to conclusion they don't support that is racist, turn 180.

I'm racist, I'm gonna fix it. Simple.
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Root cause?

You mean when the national policy with bumi agenda is the primary topic, and you want to know what is the root cause of unemployment????
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Your logic is as good as, bumis did this to the country, so Imma give Muthu the indian a hard time getting jobs.......

Man, for a guy that open so many reports on people being racist, you'd think you'd be a little more sensitive laugh.gif
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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Mar 7 2019, 04:32 PM)
There is a discrimination against Malay candidate. Agree.

But this study and the following press conference made a very premature conclusion:
Zaidel said the findings point to clear race-based discrimination in ethnic Chinese-dominated private sector employment, a taboo subject that often fuel racially-charged debates.
Without showing the breakdown of the hiring company as compare to Hock-Aun Lee study --> which suggest even Malay controlled company discriminate against Malay company even more; with the tendency to call back Chinese candidate 1.6x more than Malay.

So a race based discrimination is there, but the earlier study suggest it is due to a stereotype instead of racism.

It is an art to mix fact and fiction together to mislead and fool the public.
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Racism is an organized system of oppression built on the social categorization and stratification of social groups into ‘races’ that devalues and disempowers those groups regarded as inferior and differentially allocates to them valued societal opportunities and resources.

Racism can be expressed in multiple forms including as stereotypes (categorical beliefs), prejudice (negative attitudes), and discrimination (unequal treatment).

READ HERE LA


kek dont spin your words la.

Stereotyping is an expression of racism.
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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Mar 7 2019, 04:39 PM)
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even go cheong also kena discriminate lah...."sorry, XXX dun serve XXXX bros".....lol
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Your logic is as good as, bumis did this to the country, so Imma give Muthu the indian a hard time getting jobs.......

Man, for a guy that open so many reports on people being racist, you'd think you'd be a little more sensitive laugh.gif
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As you said in previous, as the table turned, the NO RACIST became the RACIST.
Maybe he thought that Malaysia only hv 2 race only.

ps: Ah, and in a snap, the table turned.

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don't want to sign icerd but want icerd, how irony.
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QUOTE(geelim77 @ Mar 7 2019, 04:41 PM)
even go cheong also kena discriminate lah...."sorry, XXX dun serve XXXX bros".....lol
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Damn nak cheong pun susah

Apa la nasib

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I hire base on capability. In the end, it's me that suffer if I hire the wrong people.

But from my experience, a certain race tend to be more hardworking and willing to take in and also learn more compare to certain one.
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Indians are actually doing quite well in Singapore's private sector, i wonder why.
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don't want to sign icerd but want icerd, how irony.
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15 pages and this is the best reply you could make?

We already even have a mod in the thread here.
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Man, for a guy that open so many reports on people being racist, you'd think you'd be a little more sensitive laugh.gif
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im gonna save this quote for future reference.
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15 pages and this is the best reply you could make?

We already even have a mod in the thread here.
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QUOTE(geelim77 @ Mar 7 2019, 04:41 PM)
even go cheong also kena discriminate lah...."sorry, XXX dun serve XXXX bros".....lol

That's true lol.
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 04:44 PM)
15 pages and this is the best reply you could make?

We already even have a mod in the thread here.
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but that's a very valid fact.

Don't want to be discriminated but refuse to sign ICERD.

Hard to argue against that.
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 04:39 PM)
Racism is an organized system of oppression built on the social categorization and stratification of social groups into ‘races’ that devalues and disempowers those groups regarded as inferior and differentially allocates to them valued societal opportunities and resources.

Racism can be expressed in multiple forms  including as stereotypes (categorical beliefs), prejudice (negative attitudes), and discrimination (unequal treatment).

READ HERE LA
kek dont spin your words la.

Stereotyping is an expression of racism.
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I am working along the line of racism being prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Stereotyping can be an expression of racism, but not all stereotyping is an act of racism.

If a Malay discriminate against another Malay because of stereotypes, is that really racism? (unless you want to consider self racism as part of the usual definition of racism) ** you can replace Malay with just any other.
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sure there are discrimination. to me only Malaysian vs foreigner. talk exactly same thing, but some how expat with their accent is "better".
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Mar 7 2019, 04:39 PM)
Racism is an organized system of oppression built on the social categorization and stratification of social groups into ‘races’ that devalues and disempowers those groups regarded as inferior and differentially allocates to them valued societal opportunities and resources.

Racism can be expressed in multiple forms  including as stereotypes (categorical beliefs), prejudice (negative attitudes), and discrimination (unequal treatment).

READ HERE LA
kek dont spin your words la.

Stereotyping is an expression of racism.
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the main problem i see from the study is, stereotyping by whom? Who are those 500 employers? Are they just from certain race? If so yes that race is racist. If it's from all sorts of employers, then all of us are equally racist.

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QUOTE(Hidan @ Mar 7 2019, 04:44 PM)
Indians are actually doing quite well in Singapore's private sector, i wonder why.

Same same lah. Once IT departments hire an (India) Indian in a fairly senior role, sooner or later his direct reports also all Indian.
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Owh trust me, it's always the same people.

Their race kena hantam, surely like internet virgin white knight they come and make 50000 reports.

Their race hantam other people race *cricket sounds*

Seriously I'm not Indian, but based on reports, I feel they get the most shit on this forum and very little care.
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Same same lah. Once IT departments hire an (India) Indian in a fairly senior role, sooner or later his direct reports also all Indian.
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his direct reports, malaysian india or india's indian? let me guess, all from india?
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Indians are actually doing quite well in Singapore's private sector, i wonder why.
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his direct reports, malaysian india or india's indian? let me guess, all from india?

Of course orang sendiri 🤣
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Indians are actually doing quite well in Singapore's private sector, i wonder why.
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Indian held among the highest post in corporate world due to their capabilities.
As you can see, they can't be bothered in racial dispute.
Even they didn't select "anak bangsa" if they can pick other more who are more capable.

But yeah, sometimes in normal graph, there are two extremities kan?
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don't want to marry but want to enjoy the benefit or marriage is called adultery.

same for icerd.
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I have a friend who runs a small medium size business. One day he wanted to hire new marketing person. In his job advert he terang-terang say that "Everyone welcome to apply. However, the office has a culture of drinking and there are dogs roaming around the office"

Some malay applicant go make a big fuss about it saying that it is clearly discrimination against muslim candidates. Then he had to spend so much effort to do damage control.

After that he say liao no more muslim applicants. The next time he hire, he's just not going to entertain any muslim applications.

Moral of the story: Malay muslims have a bad name. And PAS and UMNO are giving you guys an even worse name.
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don't want to marry but want to enjoy the benefit or marriage is called adultery.

same for icerd.
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Adultery is being married and then enjoying sex with someone who isn't inside that marriage.

Aiyoh.... analogy pun no korek, how lah....
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don't want to marry but want to enjoy the benefit or marriage is called adultery.

same for icerd.
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We get it. You're butthurt and can't handle the cold hard facts.

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I thought new malaysia no discrimination?

“The resumes, Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said, mentioned co-equal degree, CGPA, graduation, internship and communication skills for all the candidates.

“The results are tragic. Both our male and female Chinese candidates obtained more job callbacks than their Malay and Indian peers combined,” he told a media briefing here today.”


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I thought new malaysia no discrimination?

“The resumes, Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said, mentioned co-equal degree, CGPA, graduation, internship and communication skills for all the candidates.

“The results are tragic. Both our male and female Chinese candidates obtained more job callbacks than their Malay and Indian peers combined,” he told a media briefing here today.”
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But but the Malays anti ICERD, what say u?
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no problem, here we don't sign ICERD, we promote discrimination whistling.gif
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QUOTE(yed @ Mar 7 2019, 09:51 PM)
I thought new malaysia no discrimination?

“The resumes, Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said, mentioned co-equal degree, CGPA, graduation, internship and communication skills for all the candidates.

“The results are tragic. Both our male and female Chinese candidates obtained more job callbacks than their Malay and Indian peers combined,” he told a media briefing here today.”
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How about a research to show both male and female Malay candidates obtained more civil service job callbacks than their Bumiputra, Chinese, Indian and peers combined? dry.gif

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How about a research to show both male and female Malay candidates obtained more civil service job callbacks than their Bumiputra, Chinese, Indian and peers combined?  dry.gif
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Wht tok kok you tok about, chinese has better chance to be hired than malay, be it in civil service or Armed force.
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Wht tok kok you tok about, chinese has better chance to be hired than malay, be it in civil service or Armed force.
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I thought there is a quota for chinese/indian in the army. The reazon goverment encouraging is because both of them expecially the chinese still half from the allocated quota?



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I thought there is a quota for chinese/indian in the army. The reazon goverment encouraging is because both of them expecially the chinese still half from the allocated quota?
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Yes, you have very high chance to be accepted as long met the criteria, physical and other aptitude test.
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i bet if the melei gurs start wearing more revealing clothes to work. dayum.. all job they sapu liao.


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Wht tok kok you tok about, chinese has better chance to be hired than malay, be it in civil service or Armed force.
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http://lampiran1.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/In...C2_20190305.pdf
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no problem, here we don't sign ICERD, we promote discrimination  whistling.gif
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100 post = 10,000 malays apply
Chinese how many apply? Pleas tell me
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QUOTE(yed @ Mar 7 2019, 09:51 PM)
I thought new malaysia no discrimination?

“The resumes, Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said, mentioned co-equal degree, CGPA, graduation, internship and communication skills for all the candidates.

“The results are tragic. Both our male and female Chinese candidates obtained more job callbacks than their Malay and Indian peers combined,” he told a media briefing here today.”
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you missed the news where new malaysia govt didn't signed icerd.
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Last round when I open the streetjob web hiring engineer
Out of 300 applicant only got 10 Tongsan
Of course chances are I call maybe 5 Tongsan 5 earthly 5 others for interview...
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100 post = 10,000 malays apply
Chinese how many apply? Pleas tell me
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Leh....you think other races don't apply meh? doh.gif

100 post = let say 10 000 people apply = 67.4% (6740 Malay, orang asli, Portuguese Eurasians, Kadazans, Bajau, Iban, etc) + 24.6% (2460 Chinese) + 7.3% (730 Indian) + 0.7% (70 Others).

If you look at at LHDN previous data on examination list, fitness assessment list, interview list and successful candidates list........... shakehead.gif

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I thought there is a quota for chinese/indian in the army. The reazon goverment encouraging is because both of them expecially the chinese still half from the allocated quota?
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lol pulis and army special intake for cinis

SPM Bm lulus pun ok laugh.gif

Malay and India

takde 3 credit sila mati
BM wajib credit
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Mar 7 2019, 09:55 PM)
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Mar 7 2019, 10:50 PM)
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Leh....you think other races don't apply meh?  doh.gif

100 post = let say 10 000 people apply = 67.4% (6740 Malay) + 24.6% (2460 Chinese) + 7.3% (730 Indian) + 0.7% (70 Others).

If you look at at LHDN previous data on examination list, fitness assessment list, interview list and successful candidates list........... shakehead.gif
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67.4 % sure boh all are meleis ?

Bumiputra also include orang asli, Portuguese Eurasians, Kadazans, Bajau, Iban, etc.
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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Mar 7 2019, 10:59 PM)
67.4 % sure boh all are meleis ?

Bumiputra also include orang asli, Portuguese Eurasians, Kadazans, Bajau, Iban, etc.
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Ah, I better edit it.......thanks for clarification....
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Mar 7 2019, 10:48 PM)
Think tank pun bodoh
Last round when I open the streetjob web hiring engineer
Out of 300 applicant only got 10 Tongsan
Of course chances are I call maybe 5 Tongsan 5 earthly 5 others for interview...
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That's where you are contributing to the problem.

Don't do 5/5/5.

Just go for the best candidates.

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How many % cainis in public uni??
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it's a survey done by UMNO guy ok... political driven survey, u believe?

all their resume is not "equal"... Gabriel has the highest CGPA and enters the Dean's List... anyone who said this is not a skewed survey should really go fuck themselves
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Jeng Jeng Jeng
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That's where you are contributing to the problem.

Don't do 5/5/5.

Just go for the best candidates.
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U try the hr see
Angmoh even ask me why mostly Chinese candidate
We are "equal" opportunity employer... lol
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Tongsan cainis count or not?
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Chinaman company hired chinese wow captain obvious over here
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Is there a reason why these 2 are being not called back?
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u do know the study is conducted by umngok guy right? which was in direct response to the study conducted by muhammad-lee about racial discrimination in job applications.

the thing is,
muhammad-lee study was done with more than 3k resumes.

guess how many resumes did this umngok study is based on.. 7. SEVEN.
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The discrimination is caused by generalisation. Generalisation is based on bad experience.

Lazy, slow, incompetent, theft, and fighting. I've seen this too much.
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Inb4 30% quota utk org kite.
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QUOTE(yed @ Mar 7 2019, 09:51 PM)
I thought new malaysia no discrimination?
I thought we just celebrated an anti-ICERD rally, since when new Malaysia no discrimination?
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Those company describe as chinamen company
Its not a easy job for any race which work in Chinamen company ..

Chinamen company symptoms :
Work more pay less but bonus ok but last minute paid bonus
Loyalty is a must for them
Public Holiday usually 8 to 12 days
Calculative with employee
Chinese rajin and others tak


So with that working environment in this years, do you think the new gen (chinese) will work for them although their requirement only for chinese speaking ?

Sooner or later they have no choice and still need non chinese to work for them ... but again this kind of company only work for them if you have no option...
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QUOTE(yed @ Mar 7 2019, 09:51 PM)
I thought new malaysia no discrimination?

“The resumes, Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said, mentioned co-equal degree, CGPA, graduation, internship and communication skills for all the candidates.

“The results are tragic. Both our male and female Chinese candidates obtained more job callbacks than their Malay and Indian peers combined,” he told a media briefing here today.”
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QUOTE(yed @ Mar 7 2019, 09:51 PM)
I thought new malaysia no discrimination?

“The resumes, Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said, mentioned co-equal degree, CGPA, graduation, internship and communication skills for all the candidates.

“The results are tragic. Both our male and female Chinese candidates obtained more job callbacks than their Malay and Indian peers combined,” he told a media briefing here today.”
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operasi demonize cina is in effect
as if i cina i dont get discriminated, so full of shit la
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cina apply gomen also no callback

apa macam?
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I went McD and KFC. All 100% malay staff. Survey wrong.
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Why recently seems like the malays are the victim out of all the things

Career - issue with race
Property - issue wih race
ekonomi - issue with race
...
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Etc everything oso the race

Is it the time the malays really should think about themselves instead of keep blaming others??? Honestly it wont go far and it will just gettin worse if still with the same mindset

If the so called issue will last you for another 20 yrs....so meaning will cont blaming for another 20 yrs??




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Send the same applications to government and glc . Results will be different.
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indians bear the brunt.....

that said, chinaman companies will always prefer chinese, unless they look for sweepers or lorry drivers. As shitty and racist as it is, it is the way it is. These chinamen build their own business with little help from outside the chinese community.......so, their empire, their rules.The chinese with koyak english will go work for these comps

Now as for MNC, it's false to say that chinese are preferred. it just so happen that the bulk of applicants who match the job reqs (read proficient in written and spoken English) seem to be the urban chinese and indians.

It's not a surprise that if you go to a foreign firm say.......HSBC for banks, shell for OnG, Manulife for insurance, Accenture for Professional Services and you'll see most people are non-bumis. Two reasons really.....the unemployable bumis won't even get pass HR, while the ones who are employable would have job offers at GLC's and would probably prefer working at GLC's too. No surprise that our major GLC's TNB, Petronas, Maybank have way more bumis than non-bumis.


Msia is just structured like that........the typical path for an ambitious chinese working for an MNC is such. Do a few years of time at a good firm in Msia....either transfer to or find a new job in SG. From SG, they would then look for opps in HK or Australia or further afield. Most would probably be happy to stay in SG. Indians too will follow such a path if they have the resources.

As for the malays, the unemployed ones will feel miserable because even GLC's and government tak ambil kerja in this climate...they will join stupid groups like bossku, red shirts and mara protest. These are the sampahs and these are the ones you should worry about when shit hits the fan. They will be the ones perpetrating pogroms against the nons.

The employed ones will be comfortable at GLC's. Well paid and little stress, a lot of them want to do a good job, a lot of them are also complacent and do things at their own pace. Still ok given that you still have electricity and running water at home. In terms of competitiveness, only Petronas can be considered as competitive. yang lain are pretty much jaguh kampungs.
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QUOTE(Mondello @ Mar 8 2019, 12:57 AM)
Why recently seems like the malays are the victim out of all the things

Career - issue with race
Property - issue wih race
ekonomi - issue with race
...
....
Etc everything oso the race

Is it the time the malays really should think about themselves instead of keep blaming others??? Honestly it wont go far and it will just gettin worse if still with the same mindset

If the so called issue will last you for another 20 yrs....so meaning will cont blaming for another 20 yrs??
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dalam research tu indian is the worst victim la kek

inb4 forum milik vijandren
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He Jes telling ppl what they want to hear for politicking points. Dun care bout how the study conducted or other factors becos nonid . Yung meleis looking for kerja say job all ask for speak cainis when actually nonid. even they got in all d cainis koliks also tokking mandrine.

He is slowly lurning to bekambig a master politickan like mamak.
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Job requirement is essential for business profit, so if not qualify apa apa discrimination woi ... which business is doing charity la .... I also want to apply.
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Mar 8 2019, 12:01 AM)
I went McD and KFC. All 100% malay staff. Survey wrong.
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That no skill job lor.
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post Mar 8 2019, 09:32 AM

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indirectly spreading race hatred.
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QUOTE(yed @ Mar 7 2019, 09:51 PM)
I thought new malaysia no discrimination?

“The resumes, Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said, mentioned co-equal degree, CGPA, graduation, internship and communication skills for all the candidates.

“The results are tragic. Both our male and female Chinese candidates obtained more job callbacks than their Malay and Indian peers combined,” he told a media briefing here today.”
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Siapa yang anti ICERD?
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post Mar 8 2019, 09:34 AM

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where is ph politicians?
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post Mar 8 2019, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 7 2019, 11:53 PM)
"Senior Researcher" my ASS

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If that a genuine survey why cannot trust? Regardless who did the survey as long there is a clear method to show how they get their result. If there is no other survey disprove the survey the result still valid.
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QUOTE(yed @ Mar 7 2019, 09:51 PM)
I thought new malaysia no discrimination?

“The resumes, Cent-GPS senior researcher Zaidel Baharuddin said, mentioned co-equal degree, CGPA, graduation, internship and communication skills for all the candidates.

“The results are tragic. Both our male and female Chinese candidates obtained more job callbacks than their Malay and Indian peers combined,” he told a media briefing here today.”
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i saw another post shows the applicant got different qualifications
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post Mar 8 2019, 09:47 AM

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Research on petronas ? And the oil and gas industry for that matter.. hehehe

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post Mar 8 2019, 09:48 AM

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survey done with 7 people resume only. do at least 5-10 people/resume per race la. secondary school project probably have even better sample size.

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I pity Indians the most:

1) no bumi perks, many poor to begin with.
2) discriminated even by their peers from different caste
3) too small in number to make a hit even doing business (unless they sell something bumi wants)*

4) *if the do business to sell something that majority (read: bumi) wants.. they have bigger hurdles complying to Islamic standards**
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post Mar 8 2019, 09:55 AM

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Anti ICERD, protest!!!!!
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Mar 8 2019, 09:55 AM)
I pity Indians the most:

1) no bumi perks, many poor to begin with.
2) discriminated even by their peers from different caste
3) too small in number to make a hit even doing business (unless they sell something bumi wants)*

4) *if the do business to sell something that majority (read: bumi) wants.. they have bigger hurdles complying to Islamic standards**
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My personal working experience with them, bad, really bad.
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QUOTE(Mondello @ Mar 8 2019, 12:57 AM)
Why recently seems like the malays are the victim out of all the things

Career - issue with race
Property - issue wih race
ekonomi - issue with race
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Etc everything oso the race

Is it the time the malays really should think about themselves instead of keep blaming others??? Honestly it wont go far and it will just gettin worse if still with the same mindset

If the so called issue will last you for another 20 yrs....so meaning will cont blaming for another 20 yrs??
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True..

Majority if not all gov head are Malay
Majority if not all GLC head are Malay
Most of the big company have Malay as their chairman
Got all tongkat that available..

Still
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post Mar 8 2019, 10:40 AM

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So what else is new with this survey?
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post Mar 8 2019, 10:46 AM

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Dari Mula msia form, Yg kena discriminate terang terang, non bumi. Dah lebih 60tahun
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Yg bising pulak, bumi

Lol..
Even gomen contract terang terang tulis
BUMIPUTRA sahaja

Siapa yg biasa nak apply gomen contract tau la


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post Mar 8 2019, 10:50 AM

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no offence, but kicap always mintak cuti for no reasons. 1 month, tons of cuti and MIA.
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QUOTE(zaman_chem @ Mar 8 2019, 09:32 AM)
That no skill job lor.
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So? It's still work. Don't be choosy.

I already want to complain why need 2 people manning one stupid counter.

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post Mar 8 2019, 10:58 AM

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It's funny how..some local refuse to sign ICERD..basically ICERD is to protect you from discrimination yet when you attack ICERD and yet scream discrimination = HUGE Irony.

basically what you want to say is this:

I don't want to be discriminated but I want to discriminate others.

You live in your own made world when you say, protecting own race right is not discriminating others.

WELL, sorry to say ICERD doesn't recognize what you "self-deemed" as right or wrong.

No wonder you reject ICERD bcos you know deep down...what you're doing is wrong.
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Yindian no doubt there are good ones but others can talk a lot quarrel a lot but do little snake around.

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QUOTE(zaman_chem @ Mar 8 2019, 09:42 AM)
If that a genuine survey why cannot trust? Regardless who did the survey as long there is a clear method to show how they get their result. If there is no other survey disprove the survey the result still valid.
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The point is - it isn't a genuine survey! rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Mar 8 2019, 09:55 AM)
I pity Indians the most:

1) no bumi perks, many poor to begin with.
2) discriminated even by their peers from different caste
3) too small in number to make a hit even doing business (unless they sell something bumi wants)*

4) *if the do business to sell something that majority (read: bumi) wants.. they have bigger hurdles complying to Islamic standards**
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From IT sector experience:

MY Indians pretty good, especially those with overseas education. Many know their stuff.
India Indians go far far pls. Most are just con jobs and their CVs (if they are even real qualifications) aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Mar 8 2019, 11:14 AM)
From IT sector experience:

MY Indians pretty good, especially those with overseas education. Many know their stuff.
India Indians go far far pls. Most are just con jobs and their CVs (if they are even real qualifications) aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
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Need to conduct written technical test face to face. Got experience the candidate having Skype interview but try to Google the answer online. Kantoi la...
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QUOTE(RobUlstan @ Mar 8 2019, 10:40 AM)
So what else is new with this survey?
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the survey got hidden agenda

if really seek truth n fairness, Cent-GPS must do same survey on govt sector hiring also

then u know entire crap in full glory

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QUOTE(sdin3269 @ Mar 7 2019, 10:22 PM)
Wht tok kok you tok about, chinese has better chance to be hired than malay, be it in civil service or Armed force.
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wonder if that senator can do the same survey on that... talk abt fairness n truth, huh
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If high pay job, 100 percent. I will prefer chinese first. If low pay job like office boy/driver, i lowest pay candidate regardless of race. Well, thats just me.

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