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 EPF - self contribution, need advise

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post Dec 4 2023, 04:09 PM

 
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Dec 4 2023, 04:02 PM)
Just sharing the logic.

What a member elect is not the actual contribution rate, but the additional top up rate. Ie, if a member elect 10%, then the full contribution rate by employee will be 10% + whatever the statutory rate is by gov.
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Yes. To me it makes more sense to implement the new account 3 with a default percentage across the board, then let people adjust it if they want (like reduce acc 3 contribution to 0%).
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post Dec 5 2023, 08:02 AM

 
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Dec 5 2023, 12:01 AM)
Surprisingly (or not), those who has opt for voluntary excess contribution are not affected during that period. Let's presume I opt for 20% employee, it just keeps deducting 20% without me opt in or out.

How I know ? Cause I've been contributing extra for so many years and I track my EPF.

So for those employed and don't want to be bothered by opt in/out, just try employee at maybe 15% which won't have much monetary impact for the additional 4%
If gungho, go for 80%  cool2.gif
Err... no. See above reply. Also you need to enter that exact employee % figure in that Borang KWSP 17A, not top up rate.

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My company decided to remain the same employee contribution for all staff during that period, and I'm sure it's not the only company that did that.
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post Dec 5 2023, 09:18 AM

 
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QUOTE(Rinth @ Dec 5 2023, 09:16 AM)
By right employer cannot "decide" for employee....the reduction to 9% is by law and its employee's own decision whether to maintain at 11%or not, if want to maintain at 11%, your employer will give you a form to sign on it and employer will submit the form to EPF as proof to maintain.

But well all is past tense already lol
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Yes, they did pass the form for everyone to sign.
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post Jan 11 2024, 04:01 PM

 
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Jan 11 2024, 03:43 PM)
Anyone know how to use Maybank to do EPF contrition? I can't find the option on MAE
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MAE cannot. Use website.

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post Jan 22 2024, 01:58 PM

 
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QUOTE(maxxng12 @ Jan 22 2024, 01:57 PM)
for EPF contribution
if the mandatory contribution by employer employee has exceeded 100k,
can we put in the money via voluntary contribution? --- meaning another 100k under the category of voluntary contribution.

or the total inflow capped @ 100k per year?
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100k limit is for voluntary contribution, nothing to do with mandatory contribution by employer and employee.
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post Jan 23 2024, 07:52 AM

 
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QUOTE(Leroi2x @ Jan 22 2024, 07:10 PM)
The withdrawal amount will the taken from Account 2 and will be placed into a Special Account for your monthly loan instalment payment and its dividend will be credited into your Account 2 after the yearly dividend declaration
From my understanding is that the money will move to a special account for monthly installments , but will the fund in the special account still calculate for dividend or not ?
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I never withdraw for housing loan before, but isn't the bold part already answer your question?
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post Jan 26 2024, 08:27 AM

 
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 26 2024, 08:03 AM)
That where my doubt arises...

How EPF know which is which??
Let say, u got i-saraan, i-suri & even that account 1 additional contribution.... So totally 3 under your account....

EPF rule says everything combined is 100k limit...

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i-saraan is for those without fixed income (no employer contribution)
i-suri is for those housewife (need register)
acc 1 top up is contribute to other people epf account

They are mutually exclusive. Easy for epf to distinguish the type of voluntary contribution.

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post Jan 26 2024, 08:42 AM

 
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 26 2024, 08:33 AM)
If all the contribution goes to correct place.
Then good 👍
Respect with EPF efficient system 👌
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Are there any cases where it doesn't go to the right place?
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post Jan 26 2024, 08:43 AM

 
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 26 2024, 08:41 AM)
So it meant they can "auto" direct your self contribution to the "right" channel for the you?

What if,
I had been receiving monthly employer contribution but I had just become unemployed and I now do self contribution...
If "auto" by kwsp, then my self contribution  will not be channel to I saraan or approve my I sarran as in kwsp record I had been getting contribution from employment?
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When did i said auto? They need to approve your i-saraan before you are eligible, right?

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post Jan 26 2024, 08:53 AM

 
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 26 2024, 08:49 AM)
This is implying "auto".?
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This is after their i-saraan application already been approved. I don't get what's your concern.
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post Jan 26 2024, 08:58 AM

 
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 26 2024, 08:55 AM)
Another scenario of what if,
I sarran had been approved due to prolonged unemployment..but I just got employed again 2 weeks ago. I do self contribution, ...kwsp will channel my self contribution to I saraan even I am employed?
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It's your duty to update them if you are employed.

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post Jan 26 2024, 09:06 AM

 
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 26 2024, 09:03 AM)
I update by selecting normal self contribution, ...but they clever clever auto chanel it to I saraan ..how ?
Later kena viral if found out that employed still get I saraan  or kena go to kwsp for kopi session if they found out during audit...ha ha

Just a what if scenario, ...nothing serious on my side.
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Blame yourself for using the wrong method to update.
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post Jan 26 2024, 09:11 AM

 
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 26 2024, 09:07 AM)
Got form to use to cancel I saraan?
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Contact them.
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post Jan 26 2024, 09:22 AM

 
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 26 2024, 09:15 AM)
Why should I contact them when it is their cleverness that do auto channelling of my self contribution?

I deposit my self contribution, they do the auto channeling without asking " where to"?

BTW, top up parent kwsp is considered as self contribution by the son too?
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I don't know what's so hard to understand. If you are currently approved for i-saraan, you self contribution will of course eligible for i-saraan incentive, because a person with i-saraan status won't be eligible for i-suri, and vice versa. What's so "clever" about this?

As for contributing to other person, obviously it won't be eligible for i-saraan incentive.

I will stop here as I don't think there's any more that need to be clarified.

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post Feb 2 2024, 11:03 AM

 
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Feb 2 2024, 10:59 AM)
not so stupid question - can we request our majikan to potong like 25% instead of 13% from our salary for EPF contribution? Since i am 51 right now i want to force myself to save more. any idea?
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Yes.
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post Feb 2 2024, 01:43 PM

 
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QUOTE(leanman @ Feb 2 2024, 01:36 PM)
Did KWSP web had a new UI? it looks different to me from the last I logged in, maybe last week. And now, self contribution can also be done via web and I remembered it can only be done via apps only. I cannot see anything on my investment related account?
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Yes, they follow the apps UI. Doesn't look good on big screen imo.
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post Feb 2 2024, 03:29 PM

 
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Feb 2 2024, 03:16 PM)
The more you put in KWSP via employee contribution the less tax you pay correct ?
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No. Tax relief only upto 4k for employee mandatory contribution.
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post Feb 2 2024, 04:45 PM

 
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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Feb 2 2024, 04:30 PM)
55 is the retirement age.
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60 la.

55 is the epf full withdrawal age.
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post Feb 5 2024, 10:49 PM

 
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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Feb 5 2024, 09:39 PM)
Is there any different self contribute and extra deduction by hr?
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Anything deducted by your hr (extra or not) is not self-contribution.
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post Feb 6 2024, 08:08 AM

 
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QUOTE(gamenoob @ Feb 6 2024, 08:08 AM)
What the max?
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Your nett salary.

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