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 EPF - self contribution, need advise

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post Feb 2 2024, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Feb 2 2024, 10:59 AM)
not so stupid question - can we request our majikan to potong like 25% instead of 13% from our salary for EPF contribution? Since i am 51 right now i want to force myself to save more. any idea?
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post Feb 2 2024, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(leanman @ Feb 2 2024, 01:30 PM)
In order not to burden HR, deswai we got self contribution, i think.
Anway, is there a limit on this potong of 25% instead of statutory 12/13%?
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If you can self contribute max RM100k, increasing employee salary portion allows you to top up > RM100k. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 2 2024, 01:35 PM)
let hr do it... their job

no limit... but keep tax in mind tax...
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Yep, give HR job to do...else later all retrenched....

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post Feb 2 2024, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Feb 2 2024, 03:39 PM)
thanks for answering my not so stupid question of potong more than 13%. As my age is catching up i am slowly moving my FD and ASM into EPF.

2024 - 51 years old to max RM100k as not going to renew my FD but anything mature will go into EPF an continue to buy ASM for any left over. Will no longer be keeping FD anymore this year

2025 - 52 years old to start selling my ASM and move to EPF and will also MAX out 100k and this is where i will start to ask HR to deduct 25% of my salary to EPF

2026 - 53 years old continue to sell ASM and Max out 100k and increase EPF contribution to 35% and by my own calculation this is the year where i should hit RM1.0 Million. If anything emergency i still can withdraw from EPF for anything about 1.0M and sell more ASM if needed

2027 - 54 years old, continue to sell ASM and max out 100k and continue with 35% of salary deduction

2028 - 55 years old is when i retire and i dont think i will have income and i should be sitting with about 1.3 milion to live out whatever life i have and if company dont fire me i will still work and accumulate EPF. this is the year also my housing loan should be cleared.

i did not make it in life and i dont think 1.3 million is going to make me rich, all i am hoping for is that it can last me for 25 years assuming that i live till 80 years old

1.3million with assumption of 5.5% dividend i will have about 6k per month to support my family. good luck to me

i am hoping to get up to 1.5M to 2M if possible but i dont think is  possible
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RM 1.3 mil is not to shabby. Keep in EPF and can get 5% div, already more than RM5k+ per month.Not rich, but if no debt, got one house to live and no dependants, can live comfortably. Make sure you got medical insurance covered or else it will eat your savings fast. And don't be greedy and join investment scams like TriumpFX.

QUOTE(virtualgay @ Feb 2 2024, 04:11 PM)
anyone here know how is life when stop working? I am a little scare... is just 4 years away...
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Lepak at lowyat.net everyday like me, waiting to die.
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post Feb 2 2024, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Feb 2 2024, 04:49 PM)
retirement age is 60 but with how my company is operating and old ppl salary getting higher they already have plans to ask me to stop working
but i die die also dont want to care...
they did hinted that max is 55 but i still dont care and ignore saja if can work i will still work and put food on the table for my family
stop working with no income means and we have to think many many times before we can spend on something
i am not rich and i am consider M40
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If you are civil servant, don't think they can fire you. If private, sorry lah, got VSS better take fast fast.
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post Feb 2 2024, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Feb 2 2024, 05:29 PM)
6k per month for family is not adequate. Try to push retrement to 60 years. The last 10 years of working life is where most people savings went up,

Upon retirement, first few years spending will go thru the roof. And it must be asked whether you intend to go for frequent holidays ?
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Not for me. Business as usual. Kid's education already budgeted , so not an issue. Spending just normal only.
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post Feb 3 2024, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 3 2024, 11:25 AM)
See Singapore as example...

Even with their EPF, still continue working...

Not surprised to see 70yo or even 80yo active working 🔥💪
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Singapore gov support for old people working and getting job. Here, no such campaign and awareness nor effort by gov. You tua dah tarak duit, pergi mati jer. Nobody wants to hire old people since they pay the same.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Feb 3 2024, 12:10 PM)
I would say different mentality and lifestyle. SG is like HK. HDB is small and facing four walls. Everyone is busy chasing time and money. So elder folks will work in food court / McD / cleaning trays and tables, for example.

Here ? The elder folks prefer sit at home under air cond and watch astro / tv box / auntie liew cooking go travel.
Or just hang around do nothing / sleep / gardening.
You try ask how many old folks want to work in McD/KFC clean tables / toilet, although I see a few here and there.
Even their children will think no-face if friends/relatives see their parents working in such jobs and children will give money and ask them sit at home.
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Again, this boils down to gov effort and education. There are many poor old people. You think they don't want to work? Nobody would hire. If gov make effort, then it promotes the culture that elderly working is the norm and give some incentives for employers to hire.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 6 2024, 06:44 PM)
under profile

credit to bro ronnie
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eH, i don't have "Scheme". My i-saraan also appears as "Voluntary Contribution" only. WTF.
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QUOTE(sweetpea123 @ Feb 6 2024, 08:08 PM)
You try go website n download 2024 statement. Mine shows this
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Thanks. Saw it already, it shows the I-saraan. Funny thing is, i can't download from app, always kena error, but can download from the web.

I have also registered the i-saraan again just now and now saw the "Scheme - Isaraan" appears under my profile.
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post Feb 6 2024, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 6 2024, 08:47 PM)
I just checked my epf via new iAkaun app,

when i clicked on HOME > Voluntary Contribution View Details, it showed the rm2000 deposited on 31Jan counted in January Total.

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when i clicked on SAVINGS > Simpanan Konvensional View
Details, it showed the rm2000 deposited on 31Jan counted in February Total.

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To play safe use T+1.
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i have made 3 transactions, 2 via Maybank web, 1 via EPF mobile app.

Maybank transactions (28th or before) - does not appear in mobile app at all (but total is reflected), but the details appears in the web version, with all transactions at the bottom.

EPF mobile app (30th Jan) transaction - appears under the voluntary contribution box. Also appears in web version.

Very confusing. They want to make it same, but got difference. Not consistent.

But yeah, minimum one day. Mine is on 30th, still make it to January, recorded as 31st.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 8 2024, 04:55 PM)
Not sure because I don't know anyone still self contribute after 70yo...

All withdraw party or monthly enjoying their life / EPF money. Or  under 6ft already 😁
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75 already sell salted egg lor. If not die yet and still can contribute, means you are very rich. Not necessary to contribute anymore.
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post Feb 10 2024, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Feb 10 2024, 03:20 AM)
No offence to you but I've just realized that we could deposit straight from kwsp portal, but how come I don't see ppl recommend this way?
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KWSP portal is now same as KWSP app (almost, still WIP). KWSP app has no option for i-saraan. Although members here says if you have isaraan, it will be deposited to fulfill the i-saraan quota automatically, i would prefer to deposit from Maybank where there is clear i-saraan option. But if you are just doing self contributory, yes, doing from app is probably better and updated faster.
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QUOTE(gedebe @ Feb 12 2024, 03:04 AM)
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I've deposited rm100 from M2U selecting i-saraan but end up above?
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Have you registered i-Saraan already? Under your "profile" in KWSP app/web, do you see under the "Scheme" there is an i-Saraan? If you not, and you have already registered i-Saraan previously, you can use the KWSP app to register again. Just click the registration, maybe need to fill some simple info and done.
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Feb 22 2024, 05:31 PM)
not smart enough or EPF does not want you to treat as CASA
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I agree with it. Sini masuk, sana keluar. Then how to calculate dividend? Apa lagi Cina mau? laugh.gif Just keep it simple. Good for everyone.
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QUOTE(earshore @ Feb 27 2024, 05:18 AM)
last I checked still have, intend to continue so this year too
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 27 2024, 08:55 AM)
So far I remember correctly... If gomen didn't U turn...

Still got for YA 2024 👌
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Life insurance 3K already habis i think for most people.
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QUOTE(e46 @ Feb 29 2024, 10:26 AM)
ER is tax deductible, i always pay 19%, if you do the maths i actually save more on taxes....

msia corporate 24% is so painful... plus monthly cp204 lagi painful.

thats why my main corp is based in HKG.
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Your company transfer money to HKG main branch to make earnings here less?? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gashout @ Feb 29 2024, 04:40 PM)
instead of saying SKIM, mine says PRODUCT

both same kan?

thanks.
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PRODUCT because you are Helang T1 level....😄
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 1 2024, 10:12 AM)
Hopefully those don't want, can opt out... By filling up some forms.... Like the previous reducing of employees contribution rates.... Fill up form to maintain the rates...
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If force everyone to have one...then give you lower rates. Then your contribution split 30% to Account 3....then really kanasai.

Side note: It's still the old EPF boss/Finance Minister 2 making the announcement. New boss told to duduk diam diam and listen. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 2 2024, 08:17 AM)
Another day to go....

I really hope account 3 is not mandatory... Meaning can opt out with filling up some forms available at office or online 🙏

I want status quo...
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Opt in better. If they don't want to encourage people with this shit, which should be the way if their priorities are members retirement fund.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 3 2024, 06:53 AM)
The previous 4x EPF withdrawal...

Only the first one actually put food on table... Seriously it's for survival purposes 👍

But the others 3x is just purely for lavish spending... From new phone, cars, motor or even jewelry

So basically this new account 3 would ended up with the same results... Unnecessary spending...
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