I know keto.
But how do you do intermittent fasting?
Can share your experience?
I want to get fit and fitter.
Intermittent fasting or keto? How?
Intermittent fasting or keto? How?
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Jan 11 2019, 02:58 PM, updated 7y ago
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I know keto.
But how do you do intermittent fasting? Can share your experience? I want to get fit and fitter. |
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Jan 11 2019, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 02:58 PM) I know keto. Good practice. Don't eat after lunch.But how do you do intermittent fasting? Can share your experience? I want to get fit and fitter. Lose fat very fast. But have to exercise too to maintain muscle and protein. If not, become very thin. BTW, this intermittent fasting is an ancient practice, recently rebranded by nutritionist. This post has been edited by Chrono-Trigger: Jan 11 2019, 03:02 PM |
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Intermittent fasting, with lower total calories intake in a day, is definitely better than the unhealthy keto diet. Balanced diet pls.
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instead of IF/Keto (diet-based)
how bout just hitting the gym and start shredding your muscles, do HIIT and compound training |
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Jan 11 2019, 03:02 PM
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Intermittent fasting will not help. Just reduce portion stage by stage. You will not get tired and your body will adapt naturally.
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Jan 11 2019, 03:05 PM
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its good.. i still do it now.. in 1 month my weight loss nearly 7kg...
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Jan 11 2019, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 11 2019, 03:02 PM) instead of IF/Keto (diet-based) as fatass who recently become skinny with IF+exercise, diet play 80% of the role. Exercise only around 10-20%. also fatass should only focus on cardio to break the adipose layer under the skin. not those compound traininghow bout just hitting the gym and start shredding your muscles, do HIIT and compound training |
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Jan 11 2019, 03:05 PM) as fatass who recently become skinny with IF+exercise, diet play 80% of the role. Exercise only around 10-20%. also fatass should only focus on cardio to break the adipose layer under the skin. not those compound training the downside of IF isif u break IF your body will not be sustainable. |
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jan 11 2019, 03:00 PM) Good practice. Don't eat after lunch. Breakfast and lunch as usual. Lose fat very fast. But have to exercise too to maintain muscle and protein. If not, become very thin. BTW, this intermittent fasting is an ancient practice, recently rebranded by nutritionist. No more food after that until the next day? If hungry keep drinking water? |
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Keto diet very hard and expensive to maintain with Asian Cuisine.
Everything also rice/noodles/bihun/etc. Want those protein/fat heavy, you gotta pay. Or masak sendiri. |
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1) Balanced diet
2) 1000 calories intakes per day only 3) Gym everyday 4) No sugar & junkfood, period |
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 11 2019, 03:07 PM) After you reach your goal, there will be around 14 days-30 days transition period that you need to adjust your diet (increase consumption) slowly. do it correctly and you can maintain.But true, if you break in the middle or straight away makan like fatass again after reaching your goal, you'll bounce back. I've stop fasting since new year and in process of increasing the calories intake. Weight fluctuate, but not spike like hell la |
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Jan 11 2019, 03:13 PM
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eat vegetarian more good for health
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 03:58 PM) I know keto. 8hrs eating period and 16 hrs fasting period. same calories intake. if want to do fitness, do it before you start your eating period. But how do you do intermittent fasting? Can share your experience? I want to get fit and fitter. basically skip breakfast, and no supper. cramp all 3 meals within 8 hours period. |
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i skip breakfast. only eat lunch and dinner
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why not both
for intermittent fasting to maximize its effect, to go ketosis, do keto diet intermittent fasting concept is just like normal muslim fasting where you see them lost weight the longer you go without food, the better the first 4-6 hours our body use glucose in blood for energy after that our body start to hemolys the fat for energy (gluconeogenesis) and this produce ketone in blood instead of a bad thing like ketone in people with dehydration with kidney injury and muscle injury, here you break down your fat its not about calorie or type of food more on timing of meal. for IF beginner, its easy to just have your fasting period started when you sleep or it included your night sleep since its easier to brush off your hunger and get back to sleep. and then skip the breakfast. skip as long as you can probably delay it to 9am, then 10am, then 11am, then 12 am and so on, keep on increasing your fasting time and decreasing your non-fasting time. IF really work i started early november when i reach 100, now im 88, going to keep doing IF until 75-78kg before i go to norway for travel on march This post has been edited by darosha: Jan 11 2019, 03:19 PM |
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There are tons of IF method there but I prefer OMAD
I eat only 1 meals a day and the time is only 6-8pm (prefer to eat homemade dishes) Rest of the day only drink plain water 5kg lost in 1 month Dont forget to do HIIT once a day |
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QUOTE(xiaotim @ Jan 11 2019, 03:13 PM) 8hrs eating period and 16 hrs fasting period. same calories intake. if want to do fitness, do it before you start your eating period. Ancient people do it from 6am-12pm eating time, no food from mid-day to next morning. 18 hours fasting.basically skip breakfast, and no supper. cramp all 3 meals within 8 hours period. |
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Keto 1 week 1kg yo
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stop eat b4 8pm,been doing this for years
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 03:11 PM) Breakfast and lunch as usual. for me skip breakfast is easier... No more food after that until the next day? If hungry keep drinking water? eat lunch 1pm and dinner 8 pm. Yes we can drink water... Search youtube, people not eat for more than 5 days and okay... Search also autophagy.... during IF, our cell will eat bad cell and generate growth hormone... |
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Jan 11 2019, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 11 2019, 03:03 PM) Intermittent fasting will not help. Just reduce portion stage by stage. You will not get tired and your body will adapt naturally. From what i read, the point of intermittent fasting is to force the body to go into starvation mode and burn energy from your fat. Something just reducing portion cannot achieve. Easiest way to IF is to eat 12-8pm. Not so difficult to stop having late supper and skip breakfast. |
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Jan 11 2019, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 02:58 PM) I know keto. Which type of intermittent fasting do you want to do? But how do you do intermittent fasting? Can share your experience? I want to get fit and fitter. Normal 16/8 is like normal Muslims fasting, there's 24 hr fasting and even 36. Biggest problem doing this is the body not so good at adapting fat for energy. So you will likely kene keto flue. Even after a year pon still a problem as you'll get headache and disoriented while driving. I already did it for a one year 3 months. Lost 35 kg already. |
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Join FB group Intermittent Fasting Malaysia. Lots of tips and IF method there.
Also picture of they who succeed |
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You have access to gym and squat rack or not? Compound training - big 3 lifts. Bench press, squat, deadlift.
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during fasting month i always lose 8-10 kg because i only eat like crazy after break and too lazy too wake during mornings.
So i fast about 23 hours a day. |
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Jan 11 2019, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Jan 11 2019, 03:06 PM) Joe, I agree with you as I also went through intermittent fasting. I too lost 12 KG in 50 days.TS, if you wanna go the intermittent fasting route, what I did was you can eat anything with your choice of whether you wanna indulge in (breakfast, lunch or dinner). My choice was to have anything that I like for breakfast but starve for the rest of the day and have milo with full cream milk for dinner. Do Not listen to your stomach, soldier through the hunger to get results. This post has been edited by moonsatelite: Jan 11 2019, 03:38 PM |
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 11 2019, 03:07 PM) Been doing for bout a year already and I don't see a reason to break it. Realized that eating is mostly just a habit, like breakfast.QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 03:21 PM) Manyak effective bruuu, in less than a month, 66kg -> 61kg. Body fat 16% -> 12%. |
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intermittent easier than keto ..but u can combine both ..after fast have keto diet
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i cut my carbs intake, n consume mainly vege, meats, eggs; lost quite a lot of weight, n feel healthier
u dun have to go full keto like high oil consumption n zero carbs, but just minimize ur carbs intake coz as an ordinary individual (working/sitting in the office), u dun need those energy from carbs to live ur day, except those who do manual/hard labor works, or do intensive exercise/work out, then they need those carbs (for huge n quick energy), or else the daily intake of vege, meat, egg (as source of energy n nutrients) is sufficient we Malaysians tend to consume alot of carbs for the sake of eating, when we dun really those energy (instant) from carbs; ur body fat is the energy (tho slower to be processed n turned into energy) has been long neglected n underutilized This post has been edited by bylkw2: Jan 11 2019, 04:10 PM |
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QUOTE(bylkw2 @ Jan 11 2019, 04:02 PM) i cut my carbs intake, n consume mainly vege, meats, eggs; lost quite a lot of weight, n feel healthier Thanks brou dun have to go full keto like high oil consumption n zero carbs, but just minimize ur carbs intake coz as an ordinary individual (working/sitting in the office), u dun need those energy from carbs to live ur day, except those who do manual/hard labor works, or do intensive exercise/work out, then they need those carbs (for huge n quick energy), or else the daily intake of vege, meat, egg (as source of energy n nutrients) is sufficient we Malaysians tend to consume alot of carbs for the sake of eating, when we dun really those energy (instant) from carbs; ur body fat is the energy (tho slower to be processed n turned into energy) has been long neglected n utilized |
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 04:04 PM) But dont understand on skipping breakfast. Isnt that most important? If you want eat breakfast then eat la. but make sure dont eat 16 hours before. Means if breakfast at 7am, eating windows to 3.00pm then you start fasting. Also from 7am to 3 pm don't binge eat. Eat at 7am stop then eat again at around 2-3pm then stop eating until tomolo. Then when ready can wider fasting time to 18 hrs, 20 hrs, 24hrs.And if no breakfast can hit gym? Got energy ka |
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 04:04 PM) But dont understand on skipping breakfast. Isnt that most important? Don't skip breakfast is a lie. I feel fine to start my day with just plain water. And if no breakfast can hit gym? Got energy ka Well, technically, if you IF 12-8pm, when you start your meal of the day with lunch at 12pm, that is your 'break fast'. |
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QUOTE(Enzam @ Jan 11 2019, 04:16 PM) If you want eat breakfast then eat la. but make sure dont eat 16 hours before. Means if breakfast at 7am, eating windows to 3.00pm then you start fasting. Also from 7am to 3 pm don't binge eat. Eat at 7am stop then eat again at around 2-3pm then stop eating until tomolo. Then when ready can wider fasting time to 18 hrs, 20 hrs, 24hrs. Ok. Fasting window.Thanks a lot!! |
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Thank you all for the great sharing. Cant tag 1 by 1.
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 04:04 PM) But dont understand on skipping breakfast. Isnt that most important? I was like you last time, believing that. Turns out, it was a campaign promoted by Keloggs back in the 60s to sell cereal. So the modern society grew believing that. In reality, the hunter (prehistoric human) only eat once a day, sometimes a few other day and it turns out we can adapt our body to that too.And if no breakfast can hit gym? Got energy ka I started dieting sometime in August and then picked up IF around October and never looked back. Lost 14 kg thanks to IF, cardio and gym. Didn't skip breakfast ilbut instead skipped dinner. The best part is my energy level during IF never felt low throughout the day, only the hunger pangs occasionally came. IF boost my concentration level at work and its so much fun feeling light in the stomach compared to before when you're always feeling bloated. After fasting for more than 16 hours, your stomach is like in a closing shop stage, hence effectively helping your body harness its energy to good use. I did this for the long term, and I still haven't stop my diet, but IF has become part of my lifestyle and it truly felt natural at this point. Occasionally, if I want to enjoy eating out with friends and family, I could do just that. I don't want to be too strict on myself and allow the occasional cheat day because if you listen to your body and treat it well, not only you'll look healthy, but also happy. Don't be afraid to try IF, its very flexible and easy to try for beginners. Keto on the other hand is more stringent to follow qnd not really suitable for long term dieting. |
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 04:04 PM) But dont understand on skipping breakfast. Isnt that most important? I dunno it seems like a myth to me. At first also I thought if no breakfast then cannot gym, but I found out that I can lift better. Guess the stored fats are good source of energy.And if no breakfast can hit gym? Got energy ka |
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Reason people skip breakfast because some feel its easier. If last eating window at 8pm then fast until 12pm. Wake up go to work without breakfast then eat at lunch time.
Then when used to it can push your lunch time later to 1pm, 2pm, until to back at 8pm for 24hrs fast. And yes, breakfast not important. |
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Keto for me is fucking useless
just count your macros follow IIFYM(if it fits your macros) diet. Intermittent fasting is just like any diet/body building "idea", some people are all for it some find it useless just like keto. But I do intermittent fasting without actually wanting to do intermittent fasting, it's just how I eat. 8pm dinner, next day don't eat breakfast until 11-12pm eat brunch |
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Convert to a low a low calorie diet.
Stop fast food and sugar. Consult a dietitian in a hospital. Exercise. |
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 11 2019, 04:23 PM) I was like you last time, believing that. Turns out, it was a campaign promoted by Keloggs back in the 60s to sell cereal. So the modern society grew believing that. In reality, the hunter (prehistoric human) only eat once a day, sometimes a few other day and it turns out we can adapt our body to that too. Great sharing, thanks for spending time writing this.I started dieting sometime in August and then picked up IF around October and never looked back. Lost 14 kg thanks to IF, cardio and gym. Didn't skip breakfast ilbut instead skipped dinner. The best part is my energy level during IF never felt low throughout the day, only the hunger pangs occasionally came. IF boost my concentration level at work and its so much fun feeling light in the stomach compared to before when you're always feeling bloated. After fasting for more than 16 hours, your stomach is like in a closing shop stage, hence effectively helping your body harness its energy to good use. I did this for the long term, and I still haven't stop my diet, but IF has become part of my lifestyle and it truly felt natural at this point. Occasionally, if I want to enjoy eating out with friends and family, I could do just that. I don't want to be too strict on myself and allow the occasional cheat day because if you listen to your body and treat it well, not only you'll look healthy, but also happy. Don't be afraid to try IF, its very flexible and easy to try for beginners. Keto on the other hand is more stringent to follow qnd not really suitable for long term dieting. Appreciate it. Gonna try and update you guys on this |
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 11 2019, 04:23 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I started dieting sometime in August and then picked up IF around October and never looked back. Lost 14 kg thanks to IF, cardio and gym. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Don't be afraid to try IF, its very flexible and easy to try for beginners. Keto on the other hand is more stringent to follow qnd not really suitable for long term dieting. Great job. Gonna try that |
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dey for most normies fasting is their daily routine they don't even know they're doing it
go outside and look at all those blue collar workers, especially those kuli2 working in kedai makan, food is free for them, 2 times a day, usually at set times 12 hours apart, hostel is included they don't eat in hostel, they eat during working hours coz it's free in-house, and there's really no reason to spend money eating outside, unless it's their day off 12:12 intermittent fasting and they don't even know they're doing it TL;DR: most pipul is doing it, it's nothing special, you can doo eet too |
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hmm interesting . IF
skip dinner onli can? |
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QUOTE(GibeDeMuny @ Jan 11 2019, 04:58 PM) dey for most normies fasting is their daily routine they don't even know they're doing it Malam lapar makan biskut habis la IFgo outside and look at all those blue collar workers, especially those kuli2 working in kedai makan, food is free for them, 2 times a day, usually at set times 12 hours apart, hostel is included they don't eat in hostel, they eat during working hours coz it's free in-house, and there's really no reason to spend money eating outside, unless it's their day off 12:12 intermittent fasting and they don't even know they're doing it TL;DR: most pipul is doing it, it's nothing special, you can doo eet too |
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how abt calories burn > calories intake
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 02:58 PM) I know keto. Come to my facebook group, link on my siggy or search "Intermittent Fasting Malaysia" on fb. I bet someone there will guide as long you don't ask noob question before using search bar.But how do you do intermittent fasting? Can share your experience? I want to get fit and fitter. |
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my IF..
start eating at 12pm - 8pm last meal.. go to gym once every 2 days.. Repeat everyday..dont knw got lose weight or not cuz i dont hv a scale at home.. but feel healthier.. |
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I cant take keto, but IF helped me lose fat fast.
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Jan 11 2019, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Jan 11 2019, 05:32 PM) my IF.. Yea, I weigh myself everyday. It fluctuates most times but sometimes due to water weight. But the overall body outlook defibitely a big difference even if the weight doesnt change much. As we workout, our muscles are more toned hence looking fitter rhan before.start eating at 12pm - 8pm last meal.. go to gym once every 2 days.. Repeat everyday..dont knw got lose weight or not cuz i dont hv a scale at home.. but feel healthier.. |
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 03:20 PM) Topkek. Compound training is a general term,Not buying those magazine for a long time and compound training this word didnt even exist a few years back. Inbe4 all exercise are compound training lel. Vs isolation muscle training So example, bench press, squat, deadlift These simple exercises work a series of muscles all at once, so the gains are more effective. But posture has to be correct, and the set intensity also see up to your style. |
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QUOTE(Richkierich @ Jan 11 2019, 05:37 PM) That is because IF tricks your body into hibernation mode.And a lot of discipline has to go to timing. once hit festive seasons your IF will wasted and turn back a few weeks. IF u have to maintain for a long duration, once stop without adjusting your intake your weight bounces back real fast. If you start going for HIIT and squats deadlifts cardio. Ive been eating upwards of 2600-3000 cals/day yet my weight and fat % is dropping quite steadily. High protein, high fibre, low-moderate carb, low sodium/sugars. This post has been edited by teehk_tee: Jan 11 2019, 06:21 PM |
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Jan 11 2019, 08:50 PM
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IF works. Lost 5kg in a month.
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Jan 11 2019, 09:18 PM
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This is stupiak mentality
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Jan 11 2019, 09:48 PM) 1 is proven another is based on correlation no, 1 is common sense, 1 is fact.want 2 drive bmw also got proven method 1 how 2 lose weight & drive bmw if u always look 4 easy way how to lose weight. stop eating, then you lose weight. topkek, thanks for being useless. |
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Just eat less oily / deep fried food, drink less sweet sugary water, have light dinner early before 7pm, drink lots of water, exercise regularly and sleep early.
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 10:01 PM) no, 1 is common sense, 1 is fact. didn't say u stop eating how to lose weight. stop eating, then you lose weight. topkek, thanks for being useless. i just say calories burn > calories intake, u still can eat, provided u exercise lah uh uh ah ah eh eh oh oh is also a form os exercise also |
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Friend of mine took 6months to become very thin from a fatass guy...he skip rice for meal..only eat roti 6month ls straight...after that he hamtam nasi few month later become fatass again ahahahahah
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Jan 11 2019, 10:34 PM
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TS is just asking simple question regarding IF, yet some peole in here is steadily straying away from topics lol
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Fasting is better, give you digestive system rest time
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QUOTE(cikalakacikaci @ Jan 11 2019, 10:18 PM) Friend of mine took 6months to become very thin from a fatass guy...he skip rice for meal..only eat roti 6month ls straight...after that he hamtam nasi few month later become fatass again ahahahahah Yup, this is the scary part of fast diet.Hence, when aiming to lose weight, focus on a healthier lifestyle and a diet that is not too strict. Most of us have been overweight for the majority part of our lives, so to suddenly go thin in a short period will force our body to adapt and go back to its comfort zone. Myself, I'm only in my 6th months. Hoping if I could achieve my ideal weight in 2 years time, thats good enough for me. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the new discovery of running 5k, 10k, hopefully a half mqrqthon this year. Also planning to go hiking up mt ledang. All those things that I could never do before. |
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 11 2019, 10:49 PM) Yup, this is the scary part of fast diet. Hence, when aiming to lose weight, focus on a healthier lifestyle and a diet that is not too strict. Most of us have been overweight for the majority part of our lives, so to suddenly go thin in a short period will force our body to adapt and go back to its comfort zone. Myself, I'm only in my 6th months. Hoping if I could achieve my ideal weight in 2 years time, thats good enough for me. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the new discovery of running 5k, 10k, hopefully a half mqrqthon this year. Also planning to go hiking up mt ledang. All those things that I could never do before. |
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lulz..wtf with this youtube code
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started IF since July last year iinm.. lost 10kg or so (80kilo something drop to 70kg)
but belly still big.. sigh... im aiming 65kg (my ideal weight according to BMI) and a regular size tummy.. but till now for months still freeze at 70kg with round belly.. |
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 11 2019, 10:52 PM) started IF since July last year iinm.. lost 10kg or so (80kilo something drop to 70kg) but belly still big.. sigh... im aiming 65kg (my ideal weight according to BMI) and a regular size tummy.. but till now for months still freeze at 70kg with round belly.. |
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 11 2019, 10:49 PM) Yup, this is the scary part of fast diet. yah diet + exercise is vitalHence, when aiming to lose weight, focus on a healthier lifestyle and a diet that is not too strict. Most of us have been overweight for the majority part of our lives, so to suddenly go thin in a short period will force our body to adapt and go back to its comfort zone. Myself, I'm only in my 6th months. Hoping if I could achieve my ideal weight in 2 years time, thats good enough for me. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the new discovery of running 5k, 10k, hopefully a half mqrqthon this year. Also planning to go hiking up mt ledang. All those things that I could never do before. can see why my friend is failing is due to no exercises.... he did lose weight on body but his face remain the same...thin body with chubby face |
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Just want to share my experience with IF (OMAD) and Fake-keto.
I started OMAD and fake-keto since Sept, then mid of Nov pause (resume normal eating) because of travel, then resume in final week of Dec until now. I do not exercise much and my work doesn't requires me to walk a lot, so you can say I have nearly 0 activity most day. I call mine fake-keto because it's more like strictly no/minimal carb diet, and I do not follow the keto diet strictly. The actual keto diet requires our whole day food intake to have 5-10% carb, 20-25% protein, and 70-80% fat, and I find this is difficult and very hassle to follow, so I just went with no/minimal carb. Also, since I mostly eat outside, I can say most food they sure put some sugar in it, so IMO it's not possible to have 0 carb intake. I follow OMAD strictly however: only 1 meal per day, and to make it easier, I tell myself I can only eat a plate per day (2 veggies, 1 meat from economic rice). Other than that meal, only plain water, or black coffee (no sugar no cream no milk), or coke zero/pepsi black (0 cal). I do not have weight scale so I can't say how much I lose, but I can say so far it's pretty effective, probably > 10kg, managed to slim down from wearing M to wearing S, which I've never done in my life before. During the pause period, I ate like normal and ate a lot (c'mon a travel is not fun without food!) for like half and a month, which broke my 'keto' and IF. I think I gain back a bit but it's not much, very manageable, and I manage to resume IF and no-carb pretty quickly. And from final week of Dec to now, I'm seeing noticeable weight loss again. I'm planning to continue until CNY. Some thought: 1. Carb (sugar, rice, bread, etc) is addictive. It makes you want to eat more carbs. Which is also why most people having very hard time to cut carb because they always crave for it. 2. I actually still believe in calories burn > calories intake. In someway I feel it's because OMAD restricting my food intake to a plate of food one day, so it's almost impossible you can eat more than your calories to burn in one plate of food (at least not for me lol) 3. Eh it actually helps saving money since you only need to hunt for food once per day! 4. It definitely help slims down, but to have good looking body, you still have to go weight training, else your body just looks very boring (skinny? doesn't looks lean or healthy? etc) TL;DR - it works |
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QUOTE(bergstein @ Jan 11 2019, 11:11 PM) Just want to share my experience with IF (OMAD) and Fake-keto. great sharing I started OMAD and fake-keto since Sept, then mid of Nov pause (resume normal eating) because of travel, then resume in final week of Dec until now. I do not exercise much and my work doesn't requires me to walk a lot, so you can say I have nearly 0 activity most day. I call mine fake-keto because it's more like strictly no/minimal carb diet, and I do not follow the keto diet strictly. The actual keto diet requires our whole day food intake to have 5-10% carb, 20-25% protein, and 70-80% fat, and I find this is difficult and very hassle to follow, so I just went with no/minimal carb. Also, since I mostly eat outside, I can say most food they sure put some sugar in it, so IMO it's not possible to have 0 carb intake. I follow OMAD strictly however: only 1 meal per day, and to make it easier, I tell myself I can only eat a plate per day (2 veggies, 1 meat from economic rice). Other than that meal, only plain water, or black coffee (no sugar no cream no milk), or coke zero/pepsi black (0 cal). I do not have weight scale so I can't say how much I lose, but I can say so far it's pretty effective, probably > 10kg, managed to slim down from wearing M to wearing S, which I've never done in my life before. During the pause period, I ate like normal and ate a lot (c'mon a travel is not fun without food!) for like half and a month, which broke my 'keto' and IF. I think I gain back a bit but it's not much, very manageable, and I manage to resume IF and no-carb pretty quickly. And from final week of Dec to now, I'm seeing noticeable weight loss again. I'm planning to continue until CNY. Some thought: 1. Carb (sugar, rice, bread, etc) is addictive. It makes you want to eat more carbs. Which is also why most people having very hard time to cut carb because they always crave for it. 2. I actually still believe in calories burn > calories intake. In someway I feel it's because OMAD restricting my food intake to a plate of food one day, so it's almost impossible you can eat more than your calories to burn in one plate of food (at least not for me lol) 3. Eh it actually helps saving money since you only need to hunt for food once per day! 4. It definitely help slims down, but to have good looking body, you still have to go weight training, else your body just looks very boring (skinny? doesn't looks lean or healthy? etc) TL;DR - it works |
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jan 11 2019, 10:52 PM) started IF since July last year iinm.. lost 10kg or so (80kilo something drop to 70kg) 10kg is a lot, grats! but belly still big.. sigh... im aiming 65kg (my ideal weight according to BMI) and a regular size tummy.. but till now for months still freeze at 70kg with round belly.. About your tummy, do you workout and stuff? And what kind of food do you take during your eating window? |
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QUOTE(khelben @ Jan 12 2019, 10:32 AM) 10kg is a lot, grats! workout nayyy About your tummy, do you workout and stuff? And what kind of food do you take during your eating window? for food, nothing's special... i still eat the same thing i always eat before IF... just with smaller portion of rice: a handful of regular white rice, chicken dish, some greens.. nasi beriani mamak in the weekends.. sometimes just 1 regular sandwich (lettuce, tomatoes, gourmessa meat slice, some mayo/sauce) or just maggi with egg, if too lazy to whip something up |
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My friend dropped >10kgs on Keto, and is a huge advocate for that.
I however feel that the high fat diet is really bad for health in the long term. Be careful if you plan to go on a keto diet. |
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QUOTE(sun downer @ Jan 12 2019, 12:18 PM) My friend dropped >10kgs on Keto, and is a huge advocate for that. Actually my keto more to low carb, lean meat and cheese kind. I however feel that the high fat diet is really bad for health in the long term. Be careful if you plan to go on a keto diet. Hard to get steak as daily food. |
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QUOTE(bergstein @ Jan 11 2019, 11:11 PM) Just want to share my experience with IF (OMAD) and Fake-keto. Thanks for sharing , very informative. We don’t actually need to follow a strict Keto to loose weight and be healthy. Key point is really cutting down on calories, which many ppl can’t do it. Especially OMAD, ppl crave for food, so most of them take shortcut to do full Keto. It’s difficult to cut down on food intake and increase exercise duration. Your mind will keep telling u to go eat , go eat and eat.I started OMAD and fake-keto since Sept, then mid of Nov pause (resume normal eating) because of travel, then resume in final week of Dec until now. I do not exercise much and my work doesn't requires me to walk a lot, so you can say I have nearly 0 activity most day. I call mine fake-keto because it's more like strictly no/minimal carb diet, and I do not follow the keto diet strictly. The actual keto diet requires our whole day food intake to have 5-10% carb, 20-25% protein, and 70-80% fat, and I find this is difficult and very hassle to follow, so I just went with no/minimal carb. Also, since I mostly eat outside, I can say most food they sure put some sugar in it, so IMO it's not possible to have 0 carb intake. I follow OMAD strictly however: only 1 meal per day, and to make it easier, I tell myself I can only eat a plate per day (2 veggies, 1 meat from economic rice). Other than that meal, only plain water, or black coffee (no sugar no cream no milk), or coke zero/pepsi black (0 cal). I do not have weight scale so I can't say how much I lose, but I can say so far it's pretty effective, probably > 10kg, managed to slim down from wearing M to wearing S, which I've never done in my life before. During the pause period, I ate like normal and ate a lot (c'mon a travel is not fun without food!) for like half and a month, which broke my 'keto' and IF. I think I gain back a bit but it's not much, very manageable, and I manage to resume IF and no-carb pretty quickly. And from final week of Dec to now, I'm seeing noticeable weight loss again. I'm planning to continue until CNY. Some thought: 1. Carb (sugar, rice, bread, etc) is addictive. It makes you want to eat more carbs. Which is also why most people having very hard time to cut carb because they always crave for it. 2. I actually still believe in calories burn > calories intake. In someway I feel it's because OMAD restricting my food intake to a plate of food one day, so it's almost impossible you can eat more than your calories to burn in one plate of food (at least not for me lol) 3. Eh it actually helps saving money since you only need to hunt for food once per day! 4. It definitely help slims down, but to have good looking body, you still have to go weight training, else your body just looks very boring (skinny? doesn't looks lean or healthy? etc) TL;DR - it works |
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STUPID USELESS FAT TS GO DIE LA TRASH
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Just stop taking rice and sweet drinks. Cut out sugar gradually until none. Thank me later
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QUOTE(ohman @ Jan 11 2019, 02:58 PM) I know keto. https://youtu.be/APZCfmgzoS0But how do you do intermittent fasting? Can share your experience? I want to get fit and fitter. I suggest you watch this video for the comparison. What fasting will do VS keto. Eat less carb is better than eating less. Rmb, there is essential fat and essential protein, there is no essential carbs. In some of his channel he mentioned that human can actually live without any carb intake at all. |
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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Jan 12 2019, 12:48 PM) https://youtu.be/APZCfmgzoS0 Great video, thanks.I suggest you watch this video for the comparison. What fasting will do VS keto. Eat less carb is better than eating less. Rmb, there is essential fat and essential protein, there is no essential carbs. In some of his channel he mentioned that human can actually live without any carb intake at all. Im always on low carb diet but stop doing that 3 months ago. Now gonna restart |
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Do 16:8
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Keto is easy in Malaysia
Curry noodles no noodles Pork noodles pork n lard only Chap fan.... no rice.. chose meat tofu n veg Nasi lemak..choose peanuts ikan billis cucumber n sambal only..lol |
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It depends on your body i think. My friends did intermittent fasting and help reduced the weight
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