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lifebalance
post Mar 26 2019, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 26 2019, 11:32 AM)
1. For naming of insurance beneficiaries - if a person nominate wife name only but both perished in accident...and assuming they include the kid/kids names in their will (but the kids are not named as beneficiaries in the policy) - what will happen?

2. If a person name 3 beneficiaries in the policy and he and one of the beneficiary perished together, do the remaining 2 beneficiaries get the whole payout???
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1. pay out goes to the kids if it's listed as one of the assets

2. no, remains as 1/3 each, the perished beneficiary next-of-kin will get it's share as per distribution act or otherwise by any written will.

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post Mar 26 2019, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 26 2019, 02:27 PM)
1. pay out goes to the kids if it's listed as one of the assets

2. no, remains as 1/3 each, the perished beneficiary next-of-kin will get it's share as per distribution act or otherwise by any written will.
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post Mar 26 2019, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(scriptkiddie44 @ Mar 22 2019, 09:53 PM)
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with the premium paid, the coverage is very good already.

QUOTE(scriptkiddie44 @ Mar 22 2019, 10:08 PM)
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different plan type, different coverage and insurance charges. agent should have explained the difference to you.

QUOTE(scriptkiddie44 @ Mar 22 2019, 10:15 PM)
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yes, you can check the policy sustainability in the policy contract document. with the price you are paying, perhaps policy wont sustain long but i estimate, might covers till 60 y/o or so. check policy contract document ya if you wanna know more.

QUOTE(scriptkiddie44 @ Mar 22 2019, 10:24 PM)
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10% is like a guideline. there is no fix answer to that. most importantly you sort out your cash flow management then it is better to plan from there.
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post Mar 26 2019, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 23 2019, 04:59 PM)
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unit trust funds' price?

QUOTE(kevinkit @ Mar 26 2019, 09:38 AM)
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best is to see what options you have from HLA (able to upgrade from existing plan or not). try to go HLA HQ and ask customer service, they might assign a new agent for you.

quote wise, so long after you discuss with agent and you are comfortable with it, then you may go ahead. it's difficult for us to give you a definite answer on whether the quote is ok or not cz we might not know what you need.

*note: u might wanna add in extra 900K annual limit (premium will be the same), policy still can sustain till 85~90 years old. wink.gif

QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 26 2019, 11:32 AM)
1. For naming of insurance beneficiaries - if a person nominate wife name only but both perished in accident...and assuming they include the kid/kids names in their will (but the kids are not named as beneficiaries in the policy) - what will happen?
the insurance proceeds will fall under the wife's estate and distribute according to wife's will.
*note: kid(s) are minor or not?


2. If a person name 3 beneficiaries in the policy and he and one of the beneficiary perished together, do the remaining 2 beneficiaries get the whole payout???
assuming all 3 beneficiaries are benefited with 1/3 each. for the scenario stated above, the remaining 2 beneficiaries only get their own 1/3 portion each and the balance 1/3 will fall under the beneficiary's (who perished together) estate .
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post Mar 26 2019, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Mar 26 2019, 04:40 PM)
unit trust funds' price?
yes, and then ah, you see, this is how ILP works

you masuk premium

they buy for you (offer price)

then you need to pay for insurance charge

they use bid price?

wah like that my bid-ask spread lose kau kau?
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post Mar 26 2019, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 26 2019, 05:05 PM)
yes, and then ah, you see, this is how ILP works

you masuk premium

they buy for you (offer price)

then you need to pay for insurance charge

they use bid price?

wah like that my bid-ask spread lose kau kau?
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it works like that

1. you masuk premium
2. insurance charges deducted from premium paid
3. whatever balance is then used to buy of funds units (use bid price, lose on spread, and etc.)

do take note, for your case, best in just buy pure insurance (term, standalone medical). smile.gif

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post Mar 26 2019, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 26 2019, 05:05 PM)
yes, and then ah, you see, this is how ILP works

you masuk premium

they buy for you (offer price)

then you need to pay for insurance charge

they use bid price?

wah like that my bid-ask spread lose kau kau?
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flex.gif buy term insurance if takut rugi
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post Mar 26 2019, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Mar 26 2019, 04:40 PM)
unit trust funds' price?
best is to see what options you have from HLA (able to upgrade from existing plan or not). try to go HLA HQ and ask customer service, they might assign a new agent for you.

quote wise, so long after you discuss with agent and you are comfortable with it, then you may go ahead. it's difficult for us to give you a definite answer on whether the quote is ok or not cz we might not know what you need.

*note: u might wanna add in extra 900K annual limit (premium will be the same), policy still can sustain till 85~90 years old. wink.gif
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laugh.gif TQ very much , its a very helpful advise, I better check what they could do with old policy then only decide and compare. As comparing now with a new quote doesn't do justice to the old policy.
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post Mar 26 2019, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(kevinkit @ Mar 26 2019, 05:25 PM)
laugh.gif TQ very much , its a very helpful advise, I better check what they could do with old policy then only decide and compare. As comparing now with a new quote doesn't do justice to the old policy.
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this will definitely happen. if you are really going to try out other insurance companies, perhaps after 2 years getting a new policy, if only you are very sure that the HLA policies doesn't serve any purpose, you may cash out to fund the new one. else, you can make your existing HLA policy to be a life insurance policies to settle other needs (disability care, mortgage/loan cancellation, etc.)

RM4,200 for the new policy is consider a bit on the high side considering your concern is only the medical plan. you can also plan better if you wanna compare with the standalone medical card. this really need to have a proper think through if you were to make comparison in terms of long term financial planning.
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post Mar 26 2019, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 26 2019, 05:16 PM)
flex.gif buy term insurance if takut rugi
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Which term insurance got pao 1m no limit medical insurance?
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post Mar 26 2019, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 26 2019, 06:34 PM)
Which term insurance got pao 1m no limit medical insurance?
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post Mar 26 2019, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 26 2019, 06:35 PM)
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Cheap?
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post Mar 26 2019, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 26 2019, 06:44 PM)
Cheap?
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everyone's definition of cheap is different, if I say 200, some say cheap, some say expensive, best you define your affordable budget then I see whether it's "cheap" or not.

Include ur age, gender, occupation, smoker/non smoker.
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post Mar 26 2019, 07:07 PM

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I currently pay insurance charge rm100 per month for 250k life, 1m no limit med, 350 board,... Urs can?
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post Mar 26 2019, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 26 2019, 07:07 PM)
I currently pay insurance charge rm100 per month for 250k life, 1m no limit med, 350 board,... Urs can?
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Congratulations, you got the cheapest insurance plan, keep it.
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post Mar 26 2019, 07:11 PM

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post Mar 27 2019, 04:50 PM

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hi all, what is the most important criteria I should look into when I want to buy a medical insurance? is it always necessary to buy the "medical card" one?

i go through some of the brochure, it seem most plan are more or less the same within the same price range, which i think is logical, thus whichever insurance company we choose would most likely a personal preference rather than a matter of good or bad, is my conclusion reasonable?
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QUOTE(YH1234 @ Mar 27 2019, 04:50 PM)
hi all, what is the most important criteria I should look into when I want to buy a medical insurance? is it always necessary to buy the "medical card" one?

i go through some of the brochure, it seem most plan are more or less the same within the same price range, which i think is logical, thus whichever insurance company we choose would most likely a personal preference rather than a matter of good or bad, is my conclusion reasonable?
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medical - life insurance - critical illness

personal preference or someone professional
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post Mar 27 2019, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 27 2019, 04:58 PM)
medical - life insurance - critical illness

personal preference or someone professional
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critical illness can understand, is life insurance a necessary when buying medical insurance?

i guess professional required to find out which one suit us best, to make my point clear, I believe in a competitive market, most product tend to offer more or less the same value, or else the best one would conquer the market.
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post Mar 27 2019, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(YH1234 @ Mar 27 2019, 05:14 PM)
critical illness can understand, is life insurance a necessary when buying medical insurance?

i guess professional required to find out which one suit us best, to make my point clear, I believe in a competitive market, most product tend to offer more or less the same value, or else the best one would conquer the market.
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life insurance is more for your dependents who depends on you for income.

Not to mention that Disability is also part of Life Insurance payout, so it's not just about death, if you're disabled then the payout will help to lift some of the financial burden for a period of time depending on how much you've bought for yourself to sustain.

Agree, innocent.gif so choose a wise agent.

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