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ckdenion
post Dec 24 2018, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(jusTinMM @ Dec 23 2018, 04:48 PM)
how much stand alone medi card for kids?
7 years old boy and
4 years old girl
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from RM155/month for both of the kids smile.gif
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post Dec 27 2018, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(fizzx @ Dec 26 2018, 11:23 PM)
Dear sifus, I have looked at both Prudential and AIA policies that have been generated for me. I would like to know your opinion(s) on both of these policies:

27F non-smoker Class 1 (50% responsibility of breadwinner)

Prudential - Plan Type: Regular Premium ILP
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1. a little note on Prudential plan, you can ask agent to quote you the latest PRUmillion med. Insurance charges is cheaper.
2. as for life insurance, perhaps you can roughly estimate that it can cover whatever outstanding loans/debts and also provide family for x years (depends on your family members' dependancy). and also if you have any child, you might wanna look into whether you want the life insurance to provide for child's education.
3. for critical illness, you estimate whether how much amount you need to cover at least 3 years (best if 5 years) for transition period.

QUOTE(jangyelo @ Dec 27 2018, 01:36 PM)
Hi agents,

I currently have a plan with Prudential.
Both medical and life.

Would like to explore other products.
In PJ, can contact me to further discuss.
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only wanna look into Prudential? basically it is either life insurance or medical insurance. or you want targeted specific products like cancer care products, 36 critical illnesses products.

This post has been edited by ckdenion: Dec 27 2018, 07:10 PM
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post Dec 28 2018, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Simplified @ Dec 28 2018, 11:04 AM)
HI im with Prudential.

Recently i met a prospect and he's telling me about how Allianz similar plans are less expensive by a margin.

Anyone can enlighten me bout allianz and how come they are much more affordable

Rgrds
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Better to compare side by side for its benefits and insurance charges. Generally speaking, charges wise wont be significant difference. Main difference is policy sustainability given with the difference of premium needed for its benefits.
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post Dec 28 2018, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Dec 28 2018, 10:46 AM)
Panels that recommended by the insurance companies?

I can bring her to do examination.
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Submit and apply for the insurance plan first, company will release query letter to tell you what need to do then from there you proceed with what is needed to do. It is easier that way.
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post Dec 29 2018, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(KKLeong @ Dec 29 2018, 12:59 AM)
Hi, i am 25 yrs old, male, non smoker, started career 2 yrs ago. What kind of insurance is suitable for me? Need medical card for emergency case if happened. Thanks for enlighten.
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At least you know you need medical card for emergency case. thumbup.gif

Medical Card > Personal Accident > Critical Illness > TPD & Life Insurance (Priority is still based on what is the area that concerns you the most) wink.gif
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post Dec 30 2018, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(KKLeong @ Dec 29 2018, 06:59 PM)
But, i could not efford high amount of premium monthly. 300 is the max tht i can afford for months payment. My fix commitment plus monthly expenses alrdy 2k. Since single still can coupe wif it.
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RM300/month is consider a good amount to start with to have all basic coverage. at least can get medical card with at least a million annual limit, and perhaps a 100k for life insurance and critical illness. wink.gif
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post Jan 4 2019, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(ginvin @ Jan 1 2019, 01:28 PM)
how often you guys review and upgrade your medical policy?
best is every 2 years or status change (married, have new born, etc.)

normally you upgrade from the same insurance company? or switch to another service provider? any pro and cons?
upgrade from the same insurance company. it also depends on case to case basis. certain plans you cannot upgrade (even though is with the same company). for example the latest medical plan from Prudential and AIA you cannot upgrade from existing policy, have to purchase a new one.

best is to maintain the old policy and see how to proceed with new one.

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QUOTE(likitsaelee @ Jan 2 2019, 05:56 PM)
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Questions:
1. Is it correct that i must buy the life insurance to buy PRUvalue? I don't need this.
because PRUvalue med is attached to the life insurance plan. only way is to make it minimal to 10k.

2. One thing i noticed is that the agent can adjust the premium, the only thing changed is how long the plan can last. Does it mean that i can pay a minimum amount initially, and top up accordingly as i got more money in the future?
yes. along the way you can increase the premium without amending the benefits. most important thing is the policy sustainability. more cash value sustains longer.

3. Since i am buying the plan for my father, in which i will be the one paying. Am i eligible for tax relief?
nope
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QUOTE(Mr.Weezy @ Jan 4 2019, 12:38 AM)
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just fill up the form to change to son's credit card number will do.

QUOTE(glauncher @ Jan 4 2019, 10:13 AM)
Hi, if I want to change insurance plan to another company, should I terminate the current plan first before buying with another company,

or buy the new plan then only terminate the old plan?
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if you have the intention to change already and want to terminate the old plan, make sure the new plan is inforced first and make sure all waiting period from the new plan is over then only terminate the old plan.
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post Jan 7 2019, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Jan 7 2019, 11:14 AM)
Hi,

What is the monthly/yearly commitment for pure life insurance with sum assured of 600k? Prospect is male 35 yo and non smoker.
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Hi nakedtruth, assume you want to go minimal premium, 600k pure life insurance is RM250/month with policy sustainability up to 64~68 years old. you can also let us know you want the 600k coverage until what age then from there premium needs to be adjusted again. wink.gif
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post Jan 8 2019, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Jan 8 2019, 02:21 PM)
That is on the high side? Is it pure life insurance only? Coz this is to replace mrta/mlta.
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low side - up till 64 y/o
high side - up till 68 y/o

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the plan is a life insurance that covers death and TPD benefit only. wink.gif i thought your MRTA/MLTA is supposed to be pure life insurance also? hmm.gif care to tell us more?
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post Jan 18 2019, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(abanganggur @ Jan 18 2019, 01:08 AM)
is there anything i can do now?
also, anywhere i can read more about incontestability period? google result not really helpful.
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ask your agent to write in a letter/form to disclose then company will underwrite accordingly. regarding incontestability period, you can refer to your policy book's under death benefit payout (since you specifically asked about death claim) smile.gif
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post Jan 18 2019, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Darkcloudz @ Jan 18 2019, 12:30 PM)
anyone here can suggest insurance package for baby?

Required:
Medical & Hospitalisation
RM200 Room & Board with at least 1 million annual limit (no lifetime limit)

Life and PA
is there any specific life insurance amount that you need?
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perhaps you can provide more info on what you need smile.gif
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post Jan 21 2019, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(lustman @ Jan 20 2019, 03:12 PM)
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that's indeed a big hike. perhaps at the moment you compare the benefit and premium with AIA Takaful or Prudential Takaful first.

QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 20 2019, 04:37 PM)
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it also depends on the policy inception date. if the policy is bought long ago, then the increment wont be that much since cash value in the policy is more. quite a few factors that determine the premium hike.

QUOTE(mycolumn @ Jan 20 2019, 08:12 PM)
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most medi cal card covers hospitalization and surgery. whether to go standalone or investment link, depends on what other benefits do you want. investment-linked policy is mainly because you want other benefits and you get the most out of the premium you pay.

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the corporate medical card generally covers clinic visit, hospitalization and surgery. only thing is you have to check with your HR the annual limit that can be claimed. best yet, ask HR for the schedule of benefits.

if you have a own personal card, if the claim amount exceeded the limit of your corporate medical card, then you can claim the excessive amount from your personal medical card on a reimbursement basis (pay the excess amount yourself and claim later after that).

QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 21 2019, 09:48 AM)
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if you want all the benefits, you can purchase all in one insurance policy. best to compare the premium if you buy all separately.

QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 21 2019, 01:35 PM)
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can get a plan that gives you all the stated benefits.
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post Jan 22 2019, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(mycolumn @ Jan 21 2019, 09:50 PM)
hmm, im interested with the other benefits under investment-linked policy. May i know what are some of the benefits?
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answer here. wink.gif

QUOTE(kentloonghh @ Jan 22 2019, 12:52 AM)
Hi guys, I don’t understand why ILP is better....majority of the fund returns is actually average 4-5%. If based on average 4-5% return, high possibility that the fund will be empty by age 70, some by 65. After that you have to pay for high COI for your life insurance + medical card. For life insurance of 100k the COI could be 3k and medical card is around 5k. At the end you would be paying more than standalone medical card because of the additional life insurance cost. Is my assumption correct?

Plus you have no choice but to continue paying higher premium for life in order to keep the medical card alive, kinda like a trap...?
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it is not about the fund returns. it depends on what you need. lets say you really need only the medical coverage (hospitalization and surgical) and not other benefits like premium waiver, CI, then it will be best to take only the standalone. if you think that it is beneficial for you to have other benefits that cant be found in standalone/term plans, then ILP is your choice. end of the day if you are getting the ILP, it is important to check also with the premium you are paying, how long can the policy sustain. say better to make sure cash value and premium is enough to sustain policy until 80 years old at least.
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post Jan 22 2019, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(kentloonghh @ Jan 22 2019, 07:36 AM)
Actually most ILP plan won’t be able to last until 80....fund returns supposed to be one of the selling point of ILP right..
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It depends how much premium you are paying. There will be a black and white stating how long a policy can sustain. To me, fund returns is not the selling point. It is the protection that matters...
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post Jan 22 2019, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(hal5586 @ Jan 22 2019, 10:18 AM)
actually it's gallstones. Was detected during medical checkup few years back. During annual checkup, the size didn't grow and based on the specialist assessment it's not that serious, and recommend to just leave it. 2 other specialist that i went to also gave the same recommendation.
I declare it during the medical checkup for my mrta, and when i checked with the insurer the reason given was untreated gallstones. Now i'm left with a home loan without mrta.

So will it actually impact any future policies that i will take up ?

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Try applying from other insurers. wink.gif
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post Jan 23 2019, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(kentloonghh @ Jan 23 2019, 12:58 AM)
Wow ur right. Thought my calculation was wrong initially. Just wanted standalone MC.....but few people want to layan...
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dont worry here sure will have people layan you. i believed some agents will persuade you to take ILP. most importantly you know what benefit you can get from both standalone MC and MC attached to an ILP. End of the day you decide what you want. people that dont wanna layan you rugi lor... whistling.gif
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post Jan 25 2019, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Jdite @ Jan 24 2019, 11:24 AM)
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Critical Illness benefit payout is one rider. The early payout for critical illness is another rider. The early payout rider in that ILP plan is quite limited though. If your SA is not big, then the early payout will be little. Do check the available critical illness early payout as well. The coverage is not so complete though.

QUOTE(kentloonghh @ Jan 24 2019, 08:23 PM)
So no choice have to go for ILP MC?
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Most of the new Standalone MC has similar benefit like the ones in ILP already.

QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Jan 25 2019, 08:54 AM)
Hi,

There are so many insurance out therr. What are the criterias we should look in choosing the right insurance? Maybe looking for ILP with medical card coverage. Thank you.
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Looks like your concern is have your medical expenses taken care of first. wink.gif
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post Jan 26 2019, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jan 26 2019, 04:33 PM)
What is the most cost effective tool to use to setup insurance trust? Term or ILP?

Anyone has experience in this area?
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if you are comparing only term and ILP life insurance, term life is more cost effective. only thing you need to take note for term life is the term of coverage where as for ILP life insurance most are up till 99 years old. certain term insurance is up to 70 years old only.
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post Jan 26 2019, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jan 26 2019, 08:27 PM)
I'm looking at specific term until my kid reach a certain age for trust purpose. I have other life insurance policies that cover until 80 at least. Apart from term or ILP, any other tool can be used for trust for kids which is cost effective?
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tools asides from insurance are either cash or unit trust. smile.gif
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post Jan 27 2019, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jan 27 2019, 12:14 PM)
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you can consider PRUmillion med.

QUOTE(eddydo @ Jan 27 2019, 01:40 PM)
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if not mistaken, that is a IL HealthProtector. if your concern is only the medical card, you can consider taking up the RM990k annual limit with no lifetime limit.

QUOTE(eddydo @ Jan 27 2019, 06:40 PM)
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A-Plus Health is the latest AIA medical card which definitely can cover your needs. only for life insurance you have to discuss with agent whether how much you need then only come out with a plan.

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