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limeuu
post Dec 6 2018, 09:54 AM

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This is a problem started by the previous gov....the whole idea of loans for private education is a scam itself....but the problem was created because there was no system of effective repayment....and when people defaulted, no effective action was taken.... imagine a bank with npl 50%!!!

Now the new gov is trying to clean out the mess, and get blamed by all....

The solution is actually so simple....no need reinvent the wheel, see what other countries are doing....this solution l have proposed long ago.....the problem is just the quantum proposed....


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post Dec 6 2018, 09:57 AM

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The new gov doesnt reduce your monthly burden, but increasing your burden. Way to go and lie pakatan harapan. Just a few month, you politician become close to najib. After lie and lie, power abuse and then come corruption. BN 2. 0. Well mahacai mahacai still ok wth kene kencing.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 6 2018, 09:54 AM)
This is a problem started by the previous gov....the whole idea of loans for private education is a scam itself....but the problem was created because there was no system of effective repayment....and when people defaulted, no effective action was taken.... imagine a bank with npl 50%!!!

Now the new gov is trying to clean out the mess, and get blamed by all....

The solution is actually so simple....no need reinvent the wheel, see what other countries are doing....this solution l have proposed long ago.....the problem is just the quantum proposed....
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dont want baca balik. wat was your proposal again?
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(cococonutseller @ Dec 6 2018, 09:32 AM)
Yup, comparing different things are really good at giving example. BS as fk

You memang don't know what a credit is
Can u explain further to this poor guy, the difference between
Flat interest HP Vs Floating interest loan ie. Regular HL?

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Comparing? Seriously, what are you trying to prove? What a genius wannabe
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:00 AM

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the more you earn the more you pay..its the same as income tax. if you earn 5k you pay 500 all the while and now you earn 8k you still want to just pay 500 meh.
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(cococonutseller @ Dec 6 2018, 09:32 AM)
Yup, comparing different things are really good at giving example. BS as fk

You memang don't know what a credit is
Can u explain further to this poor guy, the difference between
Flat interest HP Vs Floating interest loan ie. Regular HL?

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Not too sure what the arguments are about

But simple interest rates (HP, personal loans) are as per its name, simple to calculate. But it doesn't reflect the true outstanding balance at the moment because the installments are calculated with the interest included throughout the tenure of the loan. What if you decided to settle the loan early? The bank would have to give you a rebate on unpaid interests, but this is not efficient and the calculation can be very convoluted. And when things are convoluted, the borrowers become the victim.

So BNM encouraged banks to adopt the annualized interest rate. It is a fairer way to calculate the installments and displaying the interests. It can also be used to calculate your interest on a daily basis ([interest %/ 365] x your outstanding for the day)

To compare the two rates, a HP to a mortgage for example, you need to convert one of them to the other. I would convert the HP rate (simple interest) to annualized interest rate.

In fact if I am not mistaken, in CIMB clicks, the outstanding of a car loan that I saw was calculated based on annualized interest, but the marketing was done with simple interest - I believe the banks are catering to the market - people are used to seeing HP promoted at 2-4% (simple interest), but if you convert this to annualized interest, it would be 4-6% which would scare their potential customers.

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post Dec 6 2018, 10:03 AM

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Ptptn loan no interest kah?
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Mummy Shark @ Dec 6 2018, 11:02 AM)
dah hutang, bayarlah.
tak perlu lagi memberi alasan.

dengan menjerit kat /k, hutang PTPTN boleh setel?
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Dec 5 2018, 06:11 PM)
Why think as mangsa, the government help you to finish paying your loan in shorter time.
Which means you pay less interest...  cool2.gif
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ujrah interest dah fixed.. byr awal or byr according to given payment scheme is the same amount.. might as well follow the current contract agreement.. its not about not paying, those who rage are the good paymaster..

might affect their financial budget..
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:08 AM

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19. Tanpa menjejaskan Fasal 6 Lampiran ini, jika PERBADANAN menyediakan satu skim pembayaran balik berkenaan wang yang kena dibayar oleh PEMINJAM ke atas Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut kepada PERBADANAN selain daripada yang ditetapkan di bawah Fasal 6, PEMINJAM adalah dengan ini memberi persetujuan yang tidak boleh dibatalkan untuk membenarkan PERBADANAN membuat perkiraan dengan sesiapa jua majikan PEMINJAM kemudian nanti supaya pendapatannya dipotong dengan sewajarnya bagi pihak PERBADANAN. PERBADANAN adalah berhak pada bila-bila masa untuk mengubah kadar Upah Pengurusan Pinjaman, cara dan/atau masa bagi pembayaran balik itu dan meminta pembayaran balik dengan serta-merta bagi Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut atau sebanyak mana yang masih belum dibayar menurut budi bicara mutlaknya tanpa memberi apa-apa sebab baginya. PERBADANAN juga berhak pada bila-bila masa untuk meminta mana- mana Agensi Kerajaan Persekutuan atau Negeri termasuk Jabatan Perkhidmatan Awam, Kumpulan Wang Simpanan Pekerja atau Pertubuhan Keselamatan Sosial membayar daripada saguhati persaraan atau caruman PEMINJAM bagi tujuan pelepasan Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut.


got this from another thread so those who borrowed have to suck it up
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(lil_flank @ Dec 6 2018, 10:03 AM)
Ptptn loan no interest kah?
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1% only....keep your money in bank still untung....hence a reluctance to settle loan faster than required....
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QUOTE(vincabby @ Dec 6 2018, 09:57 AM)
dont want baca balik. wat was your proposal again?
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Follow the Australian system, adapted to local situation....
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:17 AM

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typical malaysian mentality - thinking that it's the government's responsibility to feed without costs.

if you borrow money then be expected to pay, itu saje.

don't complain here and there.
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(lil_flank @ Dec 6 2018, 10:03 AM)
Ptptn loan no interest kah?
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I think like 1%.

So why would you want to pay it back faster?
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Dec 6 2018, 10:17 AM)
typical malaysian mentality - thinking that it's the government's responsibility to feed without costs.

if you borrow money then be expected to pay, itu saje.

don't complain here and there.
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Typical malaysian mentality- just baca tajuk and jump into conclusions
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:19 AM

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very good! kipidap PH
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Lovekiki1208 @ Dec 6 2018, 10:15 AM)
I don't understand what to need to argue about. Isn't it better to finish the loan earlier?

Also, these people are very selfish. They only think of themselves. They choose not to repay back the PTPTN loan, or they purposely o extend the loan. They never think that next generation can't get the loan easily if Government doesn't have enough money to give.
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Yo idiot. The agreement contract I sign ask me to pay RM300 for 108 months. I paid since 2013 diligently. Now suddenly next month I have to pay RM1350++?? just because my salary bracket fall to the 15%.

You have poor comprehensive reading. People rage about the sudden increase only monthly payment. The people who rage here are not those bastard who didnt pay a single cent nor they dont want to pay at all.

Get it?

or need some drawing in a flowchart for you to comprehend this?
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(shahrul09 @ Dec 6 2018, 10:19 AM)
Typical malaysian mentality- just baca tajuk and jump into conclusions
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i'm referring to those people who posts here that complained RM1.2k deduction of a RM8k monthly salary is to "burdensome" la, donkey.
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Dec 6 2018, 10:17 AM)
typical malaysian mentality - thinking that it's the government's responsibility to feed without costs.

if you borrow money then be expected to pay, itu saje.

don't complain here and there.
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Another idiot didnt read and just reply thread here.

The agreement contract I sign ask me to pay RM300 for 108 months. I paid since 2013 diligently. Now suddenly next month I have to pay RM1350++?? just because my salary bracket fall to the 15%.

You have poor comprehensive reading. People rage about the sudden increase only monthly payment. The people who rage here are not those bastard who didnt pay a single cent nor they dont want to pay at all.

Get it?
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:22 AM

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I think like 1%.

So why would you want to pay it back faster?
That's true with the ujrah implementation. They could have gone back to the pre-ujrah days where there's a 3% interest per annum imposed on their remaining loan amount. Maybe it will just motivate people to quickly settle their loan, just like how one would prefer to quickly settle mortgage loans?

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EDIT: I give up on quote tagging; basically it's a reply to the 1%.

This post has been edited by kay_el: Dec 6 2018, 10:31 AM

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