It's really shitty, especially the devs.. The compensation is literally nothing as well. All the time spent grinding for that particular unit. Give our time back

they are nerfting my Elson and Tiera, lucky i got Diene finally so i can swap my gear from Elson to Diene. as for Tiera no idea have to find a new good debuffer.

Ikr at least someone that agree with me that the compensation is nothing.

Meanwhile in Reddit or discord all those sjw White Knight be like we got compensation and should not whine.
Don't forget they also plant a seed of doubt in us whenever we see a good hero we will think " it's gonna be nerf next week or next month again"

For me gacha is always a scam practice aka gambling in gaming industry.

Imagine i myself playing RPG games since i am young. a games e.g Chrono Cross with more than 50 characters to choose from and i only pay one price which is 60USD for a finish product where there is a start and there is an end for its story.

and now they are putting all these 50 chracters into random loot box where i have to spent money to get them. Imagine if this is a console game max will only be USD20-USD30 max with their current content.

Of course, never expected they would do so... I doubt even if it's a japanese firm they would pull something like this that could be detrimental to their business model...

but i just felt like dissing their poor literacy, making the lores or rather the game universe so cheesy all in sudden when u saw someone like Elson ( wtf was he doing in that pool with all those "alter/supreme/extraterrestial beings")... trolling them just to feel better ...

Honestly, while initially hating it, DLC is still an acceptable way to get extra contect e.g characters comparing to de gacha system or imitator loot box...

Yah, specialty change may sound like it reversing the nerf... just like Kluri S1's perk 20% CR was just dropped to 15% for Falconer Kluri, but then in the skill tree, you can push it back up to 20%, just need extra investment of Greater runes, n alot of them ...

on the other hand, i haven't played japanese gacha for long except one, Grand Summoners, which they actually did nerf 2 units since debut 2years ago, though received backlash! so later on, they instead did it like creating new heroes overshadowing those early heroes, made them look like junks, and then design contents where you could hardly keep up or totally unviable with most heroes of the past... developers are trolls, lol

This post has been edited by El-LoboSolitario: Dec 12 2018, 08:37 AM

Patch got delay again not sure whats wrong but another 24-48h delay.

Depend on which JP gacha games its a hit or miss some is bad like GUMI,FFBE,FGO etc etc.

Meanwhile some had good name like GBF, most of the good mobile game i was recommended if you want jp is from CYGAMES.
There is a few i just cant remember their name now.

Meanwhile China had 2 mobile gacha which is pretty good and f2p friendly Azur Lane,Girl Frontline.

I play AL and even i can reach PVP rank 1 without spending a dime and getting character here is a grind but at least you will get them eventually.
If i am nt wrong if you do daily you can get about 2-3 pull per day and if you save them for banner then you can just pull from there or just grind from maps.

Japanese dev this days can't nerf or players can ask a refund. Gacha characters ofc, not free one's and etc. But it is alright to buff any that isn't a problem. Grand Summoners? When was that, that you play it. New laws kinda applied only a few years back when Granblue caused a lot of problem for consumer. Thus introduction of guaranteed characters after pulling a certain amount of summon like Diene banner. But Japanese gacha you can pick some other character after pulling a lot in the selector list.

Also the other rules that I mentioned. If characters gets nerfed, players can ask for a refund. So yeah dev won't dare to give a refund. That's a lot of players to refund, for those who are pulling on a certain banner. Seems fair and a win for players. So yeah developers are more careful when it comes to balancing characters and releasing them. Good example is Merlin in Fate Go and a bunch of other character in other games

This rules aren't enforced in KR, if not they won't dare nerf shit haha. But yeah those that smilegate nerf are mostly 3* for now outside of like Ravi being 5*. And the balancing seems alright for me, not that bad. Still nerfing is bad, they should play test longer and do their jobs properly smh

This post has been edited by Rei7: Dec 12 2018, 06:02 PM

Elson Job change animation kr stove community



From what i read a lot of those reddit people kept on say the rules you mention dont exist or something. no such law in jp or something like that.
then again epic seven got banyak white knight that die die want defend their game.

The balance they did on Ravi or Kiris that one i understand and should be balanced
but Holy Trinity wont work without max Joker artifact and +15 gear that get their hp to 8-10k minimum.
and also resistance to the dragon w10 attack.

Basically without specific +15 gear set and joker artifact its pretty much useless.I have them and i cant do w10 dragon cuz i dont have the gear or +30 joker
To those who disagree let me show you example of other heroes that deserve to nerf i meant balance as well.





This post has been edited by Jigoku: Dec 12 2018, 06:49 PM

Thank you. I can see this game is going down same path as path of exile. I sincerely think that forcing player to change gear/skill every patch means the dev has no respect for player's time.

Lol don't rely on shitty reddit it is full of normies and retards who doesn't know shit what they are talking about. There is no rules in Japan mostly regarding gacha regulation, but all the big players such as the big 6 self regulate this rules so that government won't interfere with their business and punish them

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.asp...c3-6a148a6100e2

Please read that and stop relying on reddit. After reading that you will know why gacha games in Japanese mobage or so similar to each other, because they all agree on set of rules and regulate themselves so it won't be anti-consumer much and to protect their own interest.

Yup that's what I'm thinking as well, literally no respect in our play time. That is why at the moment, i'll just be passively playing, not as serious much until, I see signs of improvements.. if it gets worse, might as well abandon it at some point

thanks for the link and info.

All i can say because of those people in reddit mobage games just kept on ripping player off because they are the water fish

It's ok la. Can't do much anyway, reddit is still pretty toxic for me haha, I only use reddit to search for solutions for new problems in games and etc, outside of that not much.

So how now? Still playing ke? I just daily login for now. Waiting for the patch and see what's next. Also interested to know more about the next dev note. See if they are listening or being an ignorant fool haha

Same as you lol just do daily log in and do the daily for 1 bookmark

meanwhile playing Destiny Child looking at my waifu Chang'e

This post has been edited by Jigoku: Dec 12 2018, 08:16 PM

That game pretty much took the style of the song, art and theme from Persona and SMT game.

Not gonna look elsewhere now, if I want to find a new moba gonna pick a japanese one.

Yea, bring back the persona and i assume SMT is shin megami tensei vibe and not many people will like it.

but so far so good since start of game give you 3-5 5* character but as usual not all are good but ok la

After 1 month and 1 week

whoaaaa! congrats, bro!

Dark Kise, can't wait to never get her




This post has been edited by Rei7: Dec 13 2018, 01:29 AM

Congrats bro, I got my commander lorina today too and got Yuna 2 days ago, grind is real for Yuna

This post has been edited by solaris22: Dec 13 2018, 06:05 AM