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El-LoboSolitario
post Dec 13 2018, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Dec 12 2018, 05:54 PM)
Patch got delay again not sure whats wrong but another 24-48h delay...
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Ya, I was wondering too why I haven't seen any update yet... not sure if Asia server follows global time zone...
Though this is a major update, may take whole day considering they have tendency to extend blush.gif ...

I am too lazy to play gacha game (unless I really enjoy de gameplay), especially those that are spin-off from mother series, e.g. FFBE etc...
Some more like recent fan-service titles i.e arc the lad, yuyuhakusho, even Sage series from last week... though I had good luck pullin rarest heroes, I just couldn't stand watchin' my favorite heroes skill set/arsenal went through down-sizing, or rather they do it in such a way you must get different style of that same hero in order to play with their other skill sets, which mean more Gacha puke.gif ... gacha gameplay is de lamest n insult to classic shakehead.gif , might as well take out my ps2, psp or emulator to replay those old classic titles blush.gif

btw, you brought up a good point many didn't seem to realize... or even E7 developer neglected... the GEARS set up... without these, even a meta team with poor gear sets with low enhancement can only be as good or worse than Pearlhorizon+Jecht+Jenna+Hurado with fully enhanced gear sets ... And those times to get viable gear set and desired substats are just as mundane as killing x number of these & those creatures, I almost got bored from farming at one point...

QUOTE(Rei7 @ Dec 12 2018, 06:00 PM)
Japanese dev this days can't nerf or players can ask a refund. Gacha characters ofc, not free one's and etc. But it is alright to buff any that isn't a problem. Grand Summoners? When was that, that you play it....
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It was released end of 2016... I also learned of the ruling regarding gacha, but it's more like forcing the dev to indicate Gacha system is a Gamble, by informing the consumers the risk of using it in one way... there may be more details to it but I forgot most, probably an addendum to refund policy in Japan ONLY?

I actually don't mind they nerf or not, more like whether I can enjoy the full content (collect all heroes of course blush.gif ) ... yet paying amount that I can play many other AAA titles just to enjoy ONE game content, that's awfully absurd!!! of course, for reason i stated above for some fan-service gacha games, I probably won't even bother playing too long due to deterioration of gaming experience (e.g. Arc the lad, I couldn't stand Tosh/Iga skill animation, and only 3 skills out of their 8+ skill sets shakehead.gif ).

Logically, they shouldn't even nerf 3*, aside from F2P, for players who spent real cash, most of their rolls were also these bunches 3*... They should only buff the rarer 4* and 5*, and if they care so much to troll F2P, they could just make it a Premium download, otherwise they are penalizing P2W which where all the hates came from (whales excluded). A law should be drafted to give a big F for these developers or else consumers can't do anything when their T&C policy is working against them...

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ChaoGuGu
post Dec 13 2018, 10:00 AM

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Well i guess the patch got delayed again. I am a really hyped for this patch as they finally nerf Tiera and Elson. Tiera is everywhere in Arena (master and challenger rank), completing Abyss 50 and doing Hunt 10. Definitely she gonna get nerf at some point. She is like so much better than most of the 5 stars (Some are really thrash and need their skills to shine).

Also, they are releasing ML summons and Hazel's speciality change (Speculation). Preparing 12 biji stones to do 2 summons!

Jigoku
post Dec 13 2018, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(El-LoboSolitario @ Dec 13 2018, 08:10 AM)
Ya, I was wondering too why I haven't seen any update yet... not sure if Asia server follows global time zone...
Though this is a major update, may take whole day considering they have tendency to extend blush.gif ...

I am too lazy to play gacha game (unless I really enjoy de gameplay), especially those that are spin-off from mother series, e.g. FFBE etc...
Some more like recent fan-service titles i.e arc the lad, yuyuhakusho, even Sage series from last week... though I had good luck pullin rarest heroes, I just couldn't stand watchin' my favorite heroes skill set/arsenal went through down-sizing, or rather they do it in such a way you must get different style of that same hero in order to play with their other skill sets, which mean more Gacha  puke.gif  ... gacha gameplay is de lamest n insult to classic shakehead.gif , might as well take out my ps2, psp or emulator to replay those old classic titles blush.gif

btw, you brought up a good point many didn't seem to realize... or even E7 developer neglected... the GEARS set up... without these, even a meta team with poor gear sets with low enhancement can only be as good or worse than Pearlhorizon+Jecht+Jenna+Hurado with fully enhanced gear sets ... And those times to get viable gear set and desired substats are just as mundane as killing x number of these & those creatures, I almost got bored from farming at one point... 
It was released end of 2016... I also learned of the ruling regarding gacha, but it's more like forcing the dev to indicate Gacha system is a Gamble, by informing the consumers the risk of using it in one way... there may be more details to it but I forgot most, probably an addendum to refund policy in Japan ONLY?

I actually don't mind they nerf or not, more like whether I can enjoy the full content (collect all heroes of course blush.gif ) ... yet paying amount that I can play many other AAA titles just to enjoy ONE game content, that's awfully absurd!!! of course, for reason i stated above for some fan-service gacha games, I probably won't even bother playing too long due to deterioration of gaming experience (e.g. Arc the lad, I couldn't stand Tosh/Iga skill animation, and only 3 skills out of their 8+ skill sets shakehead.gif ).

Logically, they shouldn't even nerf 3*, aside from F2P, for players who spent real cash, most of their rolls were also these bunches 3*... They should only buff the rarer 4* and 5*, and if they care so much to troll F2P, they could just make it a Premium download, otherwise they are penalizing P2W which where all the hates came from (whales excluded). A law should be drafted to give a big F for these developers or else consumers can't do anything when their T&C policy is working against them...
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not just dev even the players from reddit,youtuber and discord neglected eq set up and artifact.
Youtuber like Scionstorm and a few joker who are obviously sponsored to talk good about the game.

Those people who show you that they clear any content are with max gears so i dont understand the nerf on 3* but like i say before kr dev cant do balancing well
and they are very stubborn and only do whats best to balance their bank account $$$ kaching kaching.

The thing about PVP tieria being used a lot now is because our server is just 1 month old, go and check KR top 100 ranking and you will see Tieria is not use as much as global.
In fact they use more ML summon like Kise,Corvus,ML Ken and a few more other ML character.

The 2 below deserve the nerf.
Not sure if anyone of you seen the pre nerf Ravi she was able to do w7 or w6 lvl56 Golem while she is lvl36.
Kiris was able to stack 6 poison debuff on a golem in 2 turn because of her s3 short CD then they nerf it so you can at most do 3 poison debuff.

poison debuff each debuff = 5% of enemy max hp
the one that should be nerf should be poison debuff imo.

meanwhile burn and bleed is based on attack of the caster

please correct me if i am wrong i dont own any hero that can do burn or bleed i only get this from reading in reddit and discord.

This post has been edited by Jigoku: Dec 13 2018, 12:15 PM
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post Dec 13 2018, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Dec 13 2018, 12:06 PM)

Not sure if anyone of you seen the pre nerf Ravi she was able to do w7 or w6 lvl56 Golem while she is lvl36.
Kiris was able to stack 6 poison debuff on a golem in 2 turn because of her s3 short CD then they nerf it so you can at most do 3 poison debuff.

poison debuff each debuff = 5% of enemy max hp

meanwhile burn and bleed is based on attack of the caster

please correct me if i am wrong i dont own any hero that can do burn or bleed i only get this from reading in reddit and discord.
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I had kiris but barely use her, though saw video about her in abyss 80 2 slowly kill de targets while his team just focus on surviving...
but then I did get freakin' multi poison and bleeding stacks from banshe hunt too, 3 rows of RED markin' on top of my heroes status bar ranting.gif , may be they should nerf de banshee B**** in the hunt too, lol...

still, apparently it's a case Dev wanna troll players! cos both of them ain't game changing in arena, unlike shadow rose, Challenger dominiel etc...


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post Dec 13 2018, 03:33 PM

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Ofc la guys, you don't compare 60usd games and mobage games..
No way a mobage game is more satisfying than a 60usd AAA game.

That is why E7 and other gacha games for me is just a side game for me, I only play the game on auto mode as well, if there is no auto battle I definitely won't play it that much. I still buy at least 1 60usd game a month to play. E7 just a side thing smile.gif
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post Dec 13 2018, 07:06 PM

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this guy is trying too hard.

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Jigoku
post Dec 13 2018, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE
[Update] December's Second Update Notes

1. New Hero Kaillon
2. New ML characters Maid Chloe, Assasin Cidd
3. New Artifacts
4. Kaillon and Chellestis Rate Up (Not a Limited Banner)
5. Side Story Part 2
6. Opening of Raid-type Labyrinth : Royal Capital of Azmakallis
7. Kaillon Challenge
8. Hero/Artifact Balance changes and bug fixes
9. Addition of hero recall system
10. Other improvements and bug fixes
ENGLAND PATCH NOTES


GGWP on Cidd already op af now got his ML version whistling.gif

still waiting for english one

but here you go
Character that i think if i spend 1 year also most probably wont get
Kaillion skill animation damn nice







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post Dec 13 2018, 08:22 PM

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From what i can understand from google translate kr version.

Tieria passive only affects allies now and lost def break. Elson cd on buff is now 6 turns. Rikoris 2 no longers heals.

dead holy trinity
Edward_Ng
post Dec 13 2018, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Dec 13 2018, 08:22 PM)
From what i can understand from google translate kr version.

Tieria passive only affects allies now and lost def break. Elson cd on buff is now 6 turns. Rikoris 2 no longers heals.

dead holy trinity
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LOL they really want Elson and Tiera to die. time to recall.
Jigoku
post Dec 13 2018, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Dec 13 2018, 08:36 PM)
LOL they really want Elson and Tiera to die. time to recall.
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They did not just kill trinity synergy they even kill their own kit.

Tieria without armor debuff, Elson buff now is 6 turn and Rikoris health regen got removed.

If i want speed i will take Silk lol.

defense buff now minus 16% instead of 15% previously mentioned.

For the raid tmr you guys need to clear world difficulty 5-9 only you can do.

To those who havent clear wont be able to do the raid.

This coming new raid and etc not much rewards other than 10 bookmark from challenging the new banner hero.

and i hate the box rewards you get from the raid rng box to get chance of galaxy/covenant bookmark gold etc

rei7

Immunity set only need 2 part to be immune to all debuff in first turn.

and if we follow labyrinth tier always 1 higher, this raid gear if you dont get it then gg

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post Dec 13 2018, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Dec 13 2018, 08:41 PM)
They did not just kill trinity synergy they even kill their own kit.

Tieria without armor debuff, Elson buff now is 6 turn and Rikoris health regen got removed.

If i want speed i will take Silk lol.

defense buff now minus 16% instead of 15% previously mentioned.

For the raid tmr you guys need to clear world difficulty 5-9 only you can do.

To those who havent clear wont be able to do the raid.

This coming new raid and etc not much rewards other than 10 bookmark from challenging the new banner hero.

and i hate the box rewards you get from the raid rng box to get chance of galaxy/covenant bookmark gold etc

rei7

Immunity set only need 2 part to be immune to all debuff in first turn.

and if we follow labyrinth tier always 1 higher,  this raid gear if you dont get it then gg
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Oh i see . you need complete chapter 5-9 ? ok i go finish it now thanks for the note lol.. by the way Yuna also can give speed and attack buff if u dun want Silk.
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post Dec 13 2018, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Dec 13 2018, 09:41 PM)
Oh i see . you need complete chapter 5-9 ? ok i go finish it now thanks for the note lol.. by the way Yuna also can give speed and attack buff if u dun want Silk.
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i want hp regen+speed lol

but thanks about yuna only problem with Yuna is her dmg on s1/s3 is pretty MEH.

please update how is the raid i dont think i will be able to do this raid since i am still at 10-6 normal lol.


Yufine also got a pretty good buff

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post Dec 13 2018, 09:58 PM

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Imo Elson still usable, equip him with candle artifact and raise his skill level which is 5 turn CD, plus soul burn his skill CD is 2 turns, cmiiw.
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post Dec 13 2018, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(solaris22 @ Dec 13 2018, 09:58 PM)
Imo Elson still usable, equip him with candle artifact and raise his skill level which is 5 turn CD, plus soul burn his skill CD is 2 turns, cmiiw.
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except his only heal left will be from S2, The only reason he use rod of ama 5* artifact is so his S3 can heal as well he is missing one heal.

I mean sure you can use with it with candle but it just felt lacking. its pretty obvious now Diene is suppose to be replacement for Elson now.

And of course if you dont have any buffer other than Elson then keep him i guess.

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post Dec 13 2018, 10:07 PM

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For me if you have Diene, totally no way i will use Elson. 5 turn is bad enough even with candle. candle best works if the cd is 3 turns. 5 turns is too much might as well find another support.
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post Dec 13 2018, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Dec 13 2018, 10:07 PM)
For me if you have Diene, totally no way i will use Elson. 5 turn is bad enough even with candle. candle best works if the cd is 3 turns. 5 turns is too much might as well find another support.
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Exactly

anyway just found out the Kayron banner got no 120 guarantee its just rate up banner.

good luck to those who pull he seems pretty nice
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post Dec 13 2018, 11:21 PM

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just beaten world difficulty 5-9 . now i think i should be ready for tomorrow Raid.
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post Dec 13 2018, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Dec 13 2018, 10:07 PM)
Exactly

anyway just found out the Kayron banner got no 120 guarantee its just rate up banner.

good luck to those who pull he seems pretty nice
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I'm still waiting for krau or Luna banner 😂
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post Dec 14 2018, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(solaris22 @ Dec 13 2018, 11:45 PM)
I'm still waiting for krau or Luna banner 😂
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Krau is really good both pve/pvp

Luna enough say have you all seen the video i posted 30k-50k dmg haba haba and waifu material as well.

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i found your kise

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post Dec 14 2018, 03:54 PM

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First try on the on one of the raid boss during my lunch hour and lose hard. LOL



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