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post Oct 30 2018, 10:12 PM, updated 6y ago

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post Oct 30 2018, 10:13 PM

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Retina!!

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I’m watching right now as well.
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post Oct 30 2018, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 30 2018, 10:13 PM)
Retina!!

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I’m watching right now as well.
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yeah. same. exciting. haha. tongue.gif

spec is good man. similar to macbook pro 2018.

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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 30 2018, 10:14 PM)
yeah. same. exciting. haha.  tongue.gif

spec is good man. similar to macbook pro 2018.
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Pricing also gonna be good bro laugh.gif
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post Oct 30 2018, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 30 2018, 10:16 PM)
Pricing also gonna be good bro laugh.gif
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likely to be cheaper? haha. if same price as macbook pro then does not make sense already. haha.

look like it is meant to replace the 12-inch macbook or 13-inch based model macbook pro without touchbar.

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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 30 2018, 10:17 PM)
likely to be cheaper? haha. if same price as macbook pro then does not make sense already. haha.
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Hopefully around same price as the current gen, but I doubt so laugh.gif
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post Oct 30 2018, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 30 2018, 10:22 PM)
Hopefully around same price as the current gen, but I doubt so laugh.gif
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should be closer it or same price i supposed? else i do not see a reason of having a new macbook haha.
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post Oct 30 2018, 10:24 PM

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Here it comes...

Starting at $1199
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post Oct 30 2018, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 30 2018, 10:24 PM)
Here it comes...

Starting at $1199
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old model is usd999 if not wrong. tongue.gif

but fair enough. so many new features, almost same as macbook pro with touch bar 2018 except that no touch bar.
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post Oct 30 2018, 10:28 PM

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hnnnggghhh new macbook air
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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 30 2018, 10:25 PM)
old model is usd999 if not wrong.  tongue.gif

but fair enough. so many new features, almost same as macbook pro with touch bar 2018 except that no touch bar.
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Same price as the iPhone XS Max laugh.gif
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post Oct 30 2018, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ Oct 30 2018, 10:28 PM)
hnnnggghhh new macbook air
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looks very nice if you ask me. tongue.gif

jialat. itchy hand wants to change to macbook air. haha.
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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ Oct 30 2018, 10:28 PM)
hnnnggghhh new macbook air
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You know you want one... smile.gif
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post Oct 30 2018, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 30 2018, 10:30 PM)
You know you want one... smile.gif
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lul just bought my MBA last year : (
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post Oct 30 2018, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ Oct 30 2018, 10:34 PM)
lul just bought my MBA last year : (
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can accept TFT without retina display?

the old macbook air display looks very bad at this age.
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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ Oct 30 2018, 10:34 PM)
lul just bought my MBA last year : (
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Haha... darn!
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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 30 2018, 10:35 PM)
wow...  shocking.gif

can accept TFT without retina display?

the old macbook air display looks very bad at this age.
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Can. so far my eyes are ok with it. not too bad despite having a quad HD display phone
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post Oct 30 2018, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 30 2018, 10:35 PM)
wow...  shocking.gif

can accept TFT without retina display?

the old macbook air display looks very bad at this age.
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But it still runs lightning fast with no issues though!

Edit: My Air is 2014 model smile.gif

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post Oct 30 2018, 10:38 PM

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What’s the processor for the new MBA? Is it a Y-series or regular mobile CPU?
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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 30 2018, 10:35 PM)
Haha... darn!
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well i've had my macbook air since early 2014 but then last year my MBA got stole as they broke into my car sad.gif

thought of buying a windows laptop but I'm satisfied with my MBA and its performance and portability (light and 12 hours battery) as I've had a windows laptop before my first MBA.
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QUOTE(Holyboy27 @ Oct 30 2018, 10:38 PM)
What’s the processor for the new MBA? Is it a Y-series or regular mobile CPU?
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8th gen intel dual core i5
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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ Oct 30 2018, 10:39 PM)
well i've had my macbook air since early 2014 but then last year my MBA got stole as they broke into my car sad.gif

thought of buying a windows laptop but I'm satisfied with my MBA and its performance and portability (light and 12 hours battery) as I've had a windows laptop before my first MBA.
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Same, my MacBook Air is also since 2014 and it runs as smooth as it did on day 1 four years ago. Don’t think a Windows laptop can do that laugh.gif
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My credit card (near limit) is ready!!

When come out to malaysia store?
Usd1199 translates roughly to rm5100 yes?
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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 30 2018, 10:42 PM)
Same, my MacBook Air is also since 2014 and it runs as smooth as it did on day 1 four years ago. Don’t think a Windows laptop can do that laugh.gif
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ikr. lmao my windows laptop started to have problems after 2.5 years of usage. so decided to go and try a mac. I'm hooked with mac ever since.
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post Oct 30 2018, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Holyboy27 @ Oct 30 2018, 10:38 PM)
What’s the processor for the new MBA? Is it a Y-series or regular mobile CPU?
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i5 processor. cannot be Y-series.

apple always has intel customised processor.

QUOTE(attw @ Oct 30 2018, 10:42 PM)
Same, my MacBook Air is also since 2014 and it runs as smooth as it did on day 1 four years ago. Don’t think a Windows laptop can do that laugh.gif
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yeah, certainly. this is the good thing about macbook. or should say apple products. can really last very very long.

i have colleagues still using 2012 macbook pro with no retina display.

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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ Oct 30 2018, 10:44 PM)
ikr. lmao my windows laptop started to have problems after 2.5 years of usage. so decided to go and try a mac. I'm hooked with mac ever since.
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Yeah, same here... only use company assigned Windows laptop for work now. Won’t buy a personal Windows laptop ever again laugh.gif
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Shiattttt... Just got my MBA 2 years ago... Guess its not my turn for change sad.gif
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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Oct 30 2018, 11:25 PM)
Shiattttt... Just got my MBA 2 years ago... Guess its not my turn for change sad.gif
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yeah. time to join the retina display. haha.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 30 2018, 11:21 PM)
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how come I saw the price are RM 5,249 and RM 6,099 ???
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post Oct 30 2018, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Oct 30 2018, 11:29 PM)
how come I saw the price are RM 5,249 and RM 6,099 ???
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Educational price.
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The best Apple Event I've seen in a while. MacBook Air with Retina display (like finally!) and the revolutionary iPad Pro (with USB-C). The introduction ads are truly amazing. No doubt Apple's marketing is superb. All looks amazing except for the price. Personally I think they are charging higher than they should, with the addition of USD-MYR conversion which makes it look overpriced. Don't get me wrong, I do use Apple products such as iPhones and MacBook Pro, and I do think that the money spent on them is worth it in a long run (with their excellent build quality, customer service etc.)
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Seriously the MacBook Air positioning is also quite weird. It is actually close pricing with MacBook Pro non-touchbar and touchbar.
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QUOTE(Ti3othy @ Oct 30 2018, 11:39 PM)
The best Apple Event I've seen in a while. MacBook Air with Retina display (like finally!) and the revolutionary iPad Pro (with USB-C). The introduction ads are truly amazing. No doubt Apple's marketing is superb. All looks amazing except for the price. Personally I think they are charging higher than they should, with the addition of USD-MYR conversion which makes it look overpriced. Don't get me wrong, I do use Apple products such as iPhones and MacBook Pro, and I do think that the money spent on them is worth it in a long run (with their excellent build quality, customer service etc.)
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And we need to talk about how the Apple Pencil 2 costs over RM500! laugh.gif
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it is really so so thin. for me it can replace the macbook pro without touchbar already. it even got touch id now which mbpntb dont have it. feel like wanna sell my own touchbar and get this? haha
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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 30 2018, 11:42 PM)
And we need to talk about how the Apple Pencil 2 costs over RM500! laugh.gif
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Haha meanwhile we can't justify the price sweat.gif, but sometimes one can think of the bright side. It can be super useful for creators and musicians. It can magnetically attached to the iPad Pro (I know the Microsoft Surface done it long time ago) but it can be wirelessly charged too when attached! And there's a sensor for taps which can be used in Photoshop and soon even more apps to act as a shortcut (e.g. zoom in and out of Photoshop 2019 by double tapping). That's amazing! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ycgoh123 @ Oct 30 2018, 11:42 PM)
it is really so so thin. for me it can replace the macbook pro without touchbar already. it even got touch id now which mbpntb dont have it. feel like wanna sell my own touchbar and get this? haha
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exactly. the macbook 12-inch and macbook pro 13-inch without touchbar look redundant now.
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QUOTE(Ti3othy @ Oct 30 2018, 11:39 PM)
The best Apple Event I've seen in a while. MacBook Air with Retina display (like finally!) and the revolutionary iPad Pro (with USB-C). The introduction ads are truly amazing. No doubt Apple's marketing is superb. All looks amazing except for the price. Personally I think they are charging higher than they should, with the addition of USD-MYR conversion which makes it look overpriced. Don't get me wrong, I do use Apple products such as iPhones and MacBook Pro, and I do think that the money spent on them is worth it in a long run (with their excellent build quality, customer service etc.)
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You are truly a fanboy
This was the worst ever event
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QUOTE(xproc @ Oct 30 2018, 11:47 PM)
Only core i5
No core i7
Dual core MacBook Air vs 8 core iPad Pro
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You can't compare the core counts directly against a full desktop class x86 architecture CPU.

https://www.quora.com/Intels-CPU-performanc...ress-every-year


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On a side note, little disappointed Apple decided to cheap out on the core counts, especially when Intel 8th gen CPUs most if not all are quad cores at their base configuration.
That gold color, looks coral to me. Damn, so smexy.

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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 31 2018, 12:00 AM)
exactly. the macbook 12-inch and macbook pro 13-inch without touchbar look redundant now.
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true. whats the point to get mbp non touchbar with last gen dual core processor and same 2 port also.
i think this new macbook air can replace 3 model sekali. old macbook air, the 12 inch and mbp non touchbar(since apple no update it)
seriously i will consider this model if i am looking for macbook now. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ycgoh123 @ Oct 30 2018, 11:42 PM)
it is really so so thin. for me it can replace the macbook pro without touchbar already. it even got touch id now which mbpntb dont have it. feel like wanna sell my own touchbar and get this? haha
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haha same here for a second i thought i would sell off my mbpntb and get this until i saw the price tag + 128gb

indeed it is a really great upgrade of macbook air since last gen, i would probably go for this rather than pro


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QUOTE(iStand_store @ Oct 31 2018, 12:19 AM)
haha same here for a second i thought i would sell off my mbpntb and get this until i saw the price tag + 128gb

indeed it is a really great upgrade of macbook air since last gen, i would probably go for this rather than pro
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haha rm5249 128gb increase quite alot from last gen one? laugh.gif
actually now 5k for mac i think i not feeling it is expensive after new iphone and new ipad pro pricing blink.gif or is it i feel like that only laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ycgoh123 @ Oct 31 2018, 12:17 AM)
true. whats the point to get mbp non touchbar with last gen dual core processor and same 2 port also.
i think this new macbook air can replace 3 model sekali. old macbook air, the 12 inch and mbp non touchbar(since apple no update it)
seriously i will consider this model if i am looking for macbook now.  laugh.gif
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not sure if the new macbook air performance is better than pro

with almost the same price for each series especially the new macbook air, the existence of macbook 12 is pretty much meaningless lol imo
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Eventho its new, good looking design and has a Retina display, i might settle off with the previous gen MBA.

The display not really a deal breaker for me because i'm using a 2007 MacBook white and the display still looks good. Not as nice as Retina but I never find myself wanted to have a Retina display.

Stupidest decision by Apple to remove the MagSafe, really put me off to buy any new Mac
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5.8k mba vs 6.6k mbp which one to choose?
13hour vs 10 hour
no true tone vs true tone
no touch bar vs touch bar(actually i prefer non-touch bar even though if both same price)
1.25kg vs 1.35kg
dual vs quad core
1.6ghz vs 2.3ghz
single vs dual cpu fan

what else?

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QUOTE(iStand_store @ Oct 31 2018, 12:25 AM)
not sure if the new macbook air performance is better than pro

with almost the same price for each series especially the new macbook air, the existence of macbook 12 is pretty much meaningless lol imo
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hrmm. see the processor lower Ghz than pro nontb. both dual core. nt sure how it perform
goodbye macbook 12inch? bye.gif
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QUOTE(ychwang @ Oct 31 2018, 12:43 AM)
5.8k mba vs 6.6k mbp which one to choose?
13hour vs 10 hour
no true tone vs true tone
no touch bar vs touch bar(actually i prefer non-touch bar even though if both same price)
1.25kg vs 1.35kg
dual vs quad core
1.6ghz vs 2.3ghz
single vs dual cpu fan

what else?
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i think from apple website mbp with touchbar min normal price is rm7869? 6.6k? blink.gif
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QUOTE(ycgoh123 @ Oct 31 2018, 12:52 AM)
i think from apple website mbp with touchbar min normal price is rm7869? 6.6k?  blink.gif
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QUOTE(ycgoh123 @ Oct 31 2018, 12:48 AM)
hrmm. see the processor lower Ghz than pro nontb. both dual core. nt sure how it perform
goodbye macbook 12inch?  bye.gif
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It's 8th gen Y series processor. 5W TDP instead of the usual 15W TDP processors found in 13" MBPs. Performance should be similar to 12" MacBook.

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QUOTE(ychwang @ Oct 31 2018, 12:59 AM)
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I see. So good 6.6k can get new mbp with touchbar.
Wonder how much 8 months old 2017 mbp touchbar can sell now.

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QUOTE(Emmanuel250 @ Oct 31 2018, 01:06 AM)
It's 8th gen Y series processor. 5W TDP instead of the usual 15W TDP processors found in MBPs. Performance should be similar to 12" MacBook.
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I see. So there is still difference between air and pro model 🤪
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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ Oct 30 2018, 10:39 PM)
8th gen intel dual core i5
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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 30 2018, 10:53 PM)
i5 processor. cannot be Y-series.

apple always has intel customised processor.
yeah, certainly. this is the good thing about macbook. or should say apple products. can really last very very long.

i have colleagues still using 2012 macbook pro with no retina display.
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FALSE.

https://ark.intel.com/products/series/12259...e-i5-Processors

Core i5-8200Y is the only processor with two cores and 1.6GHz base clock speed matches adjusted 7W TDP clock speed shown in Intel Ark. It’s a fan-less design processor.

The only thing weird is the graphics UHD 617 which only can be found in core i7 Y series. Maybe it’s a custom chip which is not listed on Intel Ark website. But it’s definitely not the 15W processors found in 13" MBPs

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https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/10176749

quite slow
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QUOTE(Emmanuel250 @ Oct 31 2018, 01:26 AM)
FALSE.

https://ark.intel.com/products/series/12259...e-i5-Processors

Core i5-8200Y is the only processor with two cores and 1.6GHz base clock speed matches adjusted 7W TDP clock speed shown in Intel Ark. It’s a fan-less design processor.

The only thing weird is the graphics UHD 617 which only can be found in core i7 Y series. Maybe it’s a custom chip which is not listed on Intel Ark website. But it’s definitely not the 15W processors found in 13" MBPs
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Yes. it is really using low powered Y chip and a chip that is not announced.

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the 12-inch macbook becos redudant now although it still lightest and smallest but given the fact that it is 12-inch vs 13.3 inch of macbook air and pro now. the 12-inch one is still very redundant now given that it has no touch id etc.

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It's heavy for a MBA, similar weight to MBP.

I switched from MBPTB13 to MB12 (both 16GB RAM) due to the weight, very noticeable when carry whole day.
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Oct 31 2018, 12:26 AM)
Eventho its new, good looking design and has a Retina display, i might settle off with the previous gen MBA.

The display not really a deal breaker for me because i'm using a 2007 MacBook white and the display still looks good. Not as nice as Retina but I never find myself wanted to have a Retina display.

Stupidest decision by Apple to remove the MagSafe, really put me off to buy any new Mac
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Theoretically could opt for those magnetic USB C cable to replace the Magsafe?
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QUOTE(jameslow @ Oct 31 2018, 07:46 AM)
It's heavy for a MBA, similar weight to MBP.

I switched from MBPTB13 to MB12 (both 16GB RAM) due to the weight, very noticeable when carry whole day.
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For me, I am opposite. I used the macbook 12-inch 2016 model for a year then I switched to MacBook Pro TB 16GB ram model.
I dun mind to trade a bit more weight for better power and bigger screen of MacBook Pro 13-inch. The MacBook Pro 13-inch is in fact lighter and slimmer than 2015 model. After one year of use, the 12-inch macbook to me the scene is too small.

Macbook 12-inch is very portable to carry around, this is no doubt, but processing power wise is still disappointing. 16gb is an overkilled for 12-inch macbook given its processing power.

In fact, 16gb is even overkilled for my 13-inch MBP TB. If giving a choice, I may choose 8gb ram instead and save the money for next upgrade.
But if the processor is min 4 cores like MacBook Pro 2018, it will help if there is 16gb ram.

The MacBook Air is in a weird position now giving its price. The starting price of it for 256gb storage option is not far from MacBook Pro 13-inch. Not to forget that MacBook Pro 13-inch has more powerful processor, better screen, touch bar, more USB-c ports. MOST importantly the weight it not far away from macbook 13-inch.
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QUOTE(ycgoh123 @ Oct 31 2018, 12:22 AM)
haha rm5249 128gb increase quite alot from last gen one?  laugh.gif
actually now 5k for mac i think i not feeling it is expensive after new iphone and new ipad pro pricing  blink.gif or is it i feel like that only  laugh.gif
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if i am not wrong baseline macbook air 13 price used to be around 3-4k only ever since i bought it from 2012

guess most ppl felt that too, look at iphone price and look back at macbooks macam no rasa lmao
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QUOTE(iStand_store @ Oct 31 2018, 10:58 AM)
if i am not wrong baseline macbook air 13 price used to be around 3-4k only ever since i bought it from 2012

guess most ppl felt that too, look at iphone price and look back at macbooks macam no rasa lmao
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Yes even last time retina MacBook Pro 2015 time is cheap. After refreshed in 2016, price is up quite a bit.
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After comparing the specs, i'd take the macbook 12" for portability. no need higher processor if only use for travel and web surfing.

Most importantly its lighter and smaller plus retina display

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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Oct 31 2018, 04:00 PM)
After comparing the specs, i'd take the macbook 12" for portability. no need higher processor if only use for travel and web surfing.

Most importantly its lighter and smaller plus retina display
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i use macbook 12 since 2015, the 1st model, with price at that time wihtout gst RM4500. So far portability is no.1
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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Oct 31 2018, 04:00 PM)
After comparing the specs, i'd take the macbook 12" for portability. no need higher processor if only use for travel and web surfing.

Most importantly its lighter and smaller plus retina display
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But the MacBook 12-inch looks very plain now comparing to MacBook Air and MacBook Pro.

Only one port. No Touch ID.

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At first I thought the gold color is actually rose gold.
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It is pretty much copper like gold colour which I feel it looks nicer than normal gold.

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When is the date it will hit the stores? I tried booking thru Apple store and it says beginning Dec.
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Yes even last time retina MacBook Pro 2015 time is cheap. After refreshed in 2016, price is up quite a bit.
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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Oct 31 2018, 04:00 PM)
After comparing the specs, i'd take the macbook 12" for portability. no need higher processor if only use for travel and web surfing.

Most importantly its lighter and smaller plus retina display
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being too portability isnt a good thing sometime as it sacrificed a lot of necessary features like what westlife has mentioned, macbook 12 is only for really light user.

in term of portability air 13 is more than enough of what a notebook should be, not saying the new smaller size n lighter weight macbook pro 13, the differences are really negligible.
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the new macbook air, if one does not look from the side, seriously will not be able to tell the difference of it than the macbook pro 13-inch 2017 with no touchbar.

i guess, it is likely that apple will remove the non-touchbar macbook pro 13-inch soon. else i do not need see a reason of the existence of the non-touchbar macbook pro 13-inch now.

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yea cause apple revamped the macbook pro so they pass on the R&D cost to us also laugh.gif
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QUOTE(iStand_store @ Oct 31 2018, 09:06 PM)
being too portability isnt a good thing sometime as it sacrificed a lot of necessary features like what westlife has mentioned, macbook 12 is only for really light user.

in term of portability air 13 is more than enough of what a notebook should be, not saying the new smaller size n lighter weight macbook pro 13, the differences are really negligible.
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yes, you are rite. being a productivity machine, the processing power is still very much important. i just find the 12-inch macbook to have too little power for more than the light tasks for web surfing etc.

macbook pro 13-inch is actually very all-rounded capable machine especially 2018 one comes with quard-core i5 processor.
and the weight and size of it is actually very portable enough. tongue.gif

i even bought it to my previous europe trip for 2 weeks each which i go around cities with no issues.
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My situation probably different, I have iMac 5k at home, office have 24 inch screen plug into the MacBook 12, so portability is priority.

If I must choose only 1 machine as all rounder and carry everywhere, definitely I will choose MBP13TB QC version.

This MacBook Air I feel neither here nor there... LOL
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QUOTE(jameslow @ Oct 31 2018, 09:39 PM)
My situation probably different, I have iMac 5k at home, office have 24 inch screen plug into the MacBook 12, so portability is priority.

If I must choose only 1 machine as all rounder and carry everywhere, definitely I will choose MBP13TB QC version.

This MacBook Air I feel neither here nor there... LOL
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QUOTE(iStand_store @ Oct 31 2018, 09:06 PM)
being too portability isnt a good thing sometime as it sacrificed a lot of necessary features like what westlife has mentioned, macbook 12 is only for really light user.

in term of portability air 13 is more than enough of what a notebook should be, not saying the new smaller size n lighter weight macbook pro 13, the differences are really negligible.
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Everyone thought Macbook 12 is for light user, exactly what ppl think MacBook Air few years back is for surfing or email purposes, in fact both MacBook 12 and MacBook Air (previous version) really can perform, don't expect high, at least office work, photoshop, illustrator is not an issue at all. Especially MacBook 12 2017 version, don't be surprise, it's fast and outperform MBP 13 with Retina display.
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QUOTE(jameslow @ Oct 31 2018, 09:48 PM)
Everyone thought Macbook 12 is for light user, exactly what ppl think MacBook Air few years back is for surfing or email purposes, in fact both MacBook 12 and MacBook Air (previous version) really can perform, don't expect high, at least office work, photoshop, illustrator is not an issue at all. Especially MacBook 12 2017 version, don't be surprise, it's fast and outperform MBP 13 with Retina display.
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It is actually not the same comparison for MacBook 12-inch vs MacBook Air.

MacBook Air all the while have same class of laptop processor as MacBook Pro so performance I dun think anyone will complain for MacBook Air even in the past. The only complaint is on the screen which is not retina.

MacBook Air can certainly do all productivity tasks or even photo or video editing.

Macbook 12-inch is using Low-powered processor therefore fanless design but the problem of it is that it cannot sustain the turbo boost for heavy task due to the heat.

Over the year MacBook 12-inch has increased in processing power due to newer gen chip this is true. But at the same time newer gen MacBook Pro chip is also getting more powerful especially the current one on MacBook Pro 13-inch 2018 that has min 4 cores.

It is impossible for the curren macbook 12-inch to outperform the current MacBook Pro 13-inch. I am sure your conparison is to previous few years back model of MacBook Pro or air.

The biggest bummer of MacBook 12-inch is actually the pricing, it is very expensive if compare to much capable machine such as MacBook Pro 13-inch with no touchbar model.

It is light for sure but hardware wise it is also lacking even the screen size.

I had owned the 2015 macbook 12-inch and also 2016 one but I sold away them in the end and finally settled down with 2017 MacBook Pro TB which I am certainly happy about this switch.

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Coming from a 12" Macbook, I felt disappointed with the latest Apple Macbook lineup. Was really hoping for a proper speed bump to the 12" as it's weight is perfect.

The latest Air's weight is so close to the Macbook Pro, and yet the Macbook Pro's quad core setup only comes with the stupid touchbar.

Really contemplating switching to devices like the Acer Swift 5 or something. But alas I need to run some apps on Mac OS X, so I'm just stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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guys, the typical question:

should i get the 256 or bump up to 512gb SSD storage?

i am just a lecturer, doing mostly office works, slides and do research/read journals.
for hardcore research simulations, i got a desktop.

or 256gb is already enough for me?
i got iphone 8 plus too, so if i do backup, will 256gb ssd sufficient?

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QUOTE(techm @ Oct 31 2018, 10:19 PM)
Coming from a 12" Macbook, I felt disappointed with the latest Apple Macbook lineup. Was really hoping for a proper speed bump to the 12" as it's weight is perfect.

The latest Air's weight is so close to the Macbook Pro, and yet the Macbook Pro's quad core setup only comes with the stupid touchbar.

Really contemplating switching to devices like the Acer Swift 5 or something. But alas I need to run some apps on Mac OS X, so I'm just stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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12-inch macbook is certainly no question on the weight.

but it lacks of hardware and power still comparing to macbook pro or even the macbook air now.
single usb-c port and not even thunderbot 3 capable is a bummer.
with no touch-id also it makes it less convenient than macbook air or macbook pro.

QUOTE(Zaryl @ Oct 31 2018, 10:24 PM)
guys, the typical question:

should i get the 256 or bump up to 512gb SSD storage?

i am just a lecturer, doing mostly office works, slides and do research/read journals.
for hardcore research simulations, i got a desktop.

or 256gb is already enough for me?
i got iphone 8 plus too, so if i do backup, will 256gb ssd sufficient?
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512gb please. u will regret if you get 256gb model soon.
consider that even an iphone now has easily 256gb or 512gb. u cannot even backup your iphone on ur macbook without additional storage with configuration nee

dun cheap out on storage especially a macbook can easily use for 5 to 7 years or even longer.

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Oct 31 2018, 10:24 PM)
guys, the typical question:

should i get the 256 or bump up to 512gb SSD storage?

i am just a lecturer, doing mostly office works, slides and do research/read journals.
for hardcore research simulations, i got a desktop.

or 256gb is already enough for me?
i got iphone 8 plus too, so if i do backup, will 256gb ssd sufficient?
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Get the bump to 512 if you can spare the cash!
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the new macbook air, if one does not look from the side, seriously will not be able to tell the difference of it than the macbook pro 13-inch 2017 with no touchbar.

i guess, it is likely that apple will remove the non-touchbar macbook pro 13-inch soon. else i do not need see a reason of the existence of the non-touchbar macbook pro 13-inch now.
haha. certainly.  tongue.gif
yes, you are rite. being a productivity machine, the processing power is still very much important. i just find the 12-inch macbook to have too little power for more than the light tasks for web surfing etc.

macbook pro 13-inch is actually very all-rounded capable machine especially 2018 one comes with quard-core i5 processor.
and the weight and size of it is actually very portable enough.  tongue.gif

i even bought it to my previous europe trip for 2 weeks each which i go around cities with no issues.
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ya although macbook 12 seems to be capable of doing something more than we expected (0 problem doing surfing or bit heavier task) but the limitation is definitely still there, i dont see the reason of getting this machine after the release of new macbook air except for those light user who really in favor of such feather light notebook

QUOTE(Zaryl @ Oct 31 2018, 10:24 PM)
guys, the typical question:

should i get the 256 or bump up to 512gb SSD storage?

i am just a lecturer, doing mostly office works, slides and do research/read journals.
for hardcore research simulations, i got a desktop.

or 256gb is already enough for me?
i got iphone 8 plus too, so if i do backup, will 256gb ssd sufficient?
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it really depends, 256 would be sufficient or more than enough if youre just using it as what you said i even wonder if you could use up more than 100gb for that lol

but for future proof, 512gb would be good if you got extra $$
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QUOTE(iStand_store @ Oct 31 2018, 11:26 PM)
ya although macbook 12 seems to be capable of doing something more than we expected (0 problem doing surfing or bit heavier task) but the limitation is definitely still there, i dont see the reason of getting this machine after the release of new macbook air except for those light user who really in favor of such feather light notebook
it really depends, 256 would be sufficient or more than enough if youre just using it as what you said i even wonder if you could use up more than 100gb for that lol

but for future proof, 512gb would be good if you got extra $$
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My current asus ux305ua ultrabook 256gb remaining space is now: 90gb left out of 256gb. And that is for 2 years of usage from 2016 till now.

As a lecturer, i can get educator special price yes? So for the 256gb rm6029 would be rm5800 something i guess?
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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 31 2018, 10:26 PM)
12-inch macbook is certainly no question on the weight.

but it lacks of hardware and power still comparing to macbook pro or even the macbook air now.
single usb-c port and not even thunderbot 3 capable is a bummer.
with no touch-id also it makes it less convenient than macbook air or macbook pro.
512gb please. u will regret if you get 256gb model soon.
consider that even an iphone now has easily 256gb or 512gb. u cannot even backup your iphone on ur macbook without additional storage with configuration nee

dun cheap out on storage especially a macbook can easily use for 5 to 7 years or even longer.
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Yeah definitely. I would have gone for the 13inch mbp quad core, if not for the touchbar. I need a physical esc key (and fn keys) since I code . I must hit those keys like a billion times a day, and tapping on a flat plastic or keys that change function with no proper feedback will drive me insane.




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QUOTE(techm @ Nov 1 2018, 08:10 AM)
Yeah definitely. I would have gone for the 13inch mbp quad core, if not for the touchbar. I need a physical esc key (and fn keys) since I code . I must hit those keys like a billion times a day, and tapping on a flat plastic or keys that change function  with no proper feedback will drive me insane.
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Ya. Quad core will be future proof.

But the quad core MacBook Pro 13-inch 2018 may not suit you since only the touchbar version gets upgraded. Non-touchbar version did not get upgraded this year and it still have dual core despite that it has physical buttons.
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QUOTE(iStand_store @ Oct 31 2018, 09:06 PM)
being too portability isnt a good thing sometime as it sacrificed a lot of necessary features like what westlife has mentioned, macbook 12 is only for really light user.

in term of portability air 13 is more than enough of what a notebook should be, not saying the new smaller size n lighter weight macbook pro 13, the differences are really negligible.
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Seems to me if we max out macbook 12" to Core i7 may deliver all the power we need, furthermore the 12" is not under air line which is not suppose to be for light user like the air.

BTW i edited wedding videos using my MBA, the only struggled is space when FCP is compiling. So i suspect the max out 12" will perform better than then any MBA including this new one.
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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Nov 1 2018, 09:46 AM)
Seems to me if we max out macbook 12" to Core i7 may deliver all the power we need, furthermore the 12" is not under air line which is not suppose to be for light user like the air.

BTW i edited wedding videos using my MBA, the only struggled is space when FCP is compiling. So i suspect the max out 12" will perform better than then any MBA including this new one.
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the max-out model i agreed that it will make the macbook 12-inch more usable for more use cases. however, given its fanless design, heat is still a bottleneck for its possible power. it is possible for it to turbo boost for heavier tasks but it won't last very long. of course if you are sticking to apple optimized such as FCP, it can certainly perform the job. Youtuber Jonathan Morrison has done a video to prove this previously.

however, it is the pricing vs the things you get that make a difference.

if comparing the same storage option, the macbook 12-inch max-out i7 processor will cost more than the macbook air.

the macbook 12-inch is certainly more 'light' than the macbook air despite the 'air' word.
the power of each line should
macbook 12-inch < macbook air < macbook pro

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it is impossible that macbook 12-inch can outperform the 'current' macbook air. if you are talking about past models of macbook air or macbook pro in terms of single core score it is possible even comparing to 2017 non-touchbar base model.

after the release of macbook air next week, we will get to the benchmark and review which this will then certain if the new macbook air is performing better than macbook 12-inch. I am highly certain macbook air will perform better.

not only the geekbench, but the sustainability of turbo boost for longer period of time due to it better heat exhaustion.

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/6jd...s_for_all_2017/

MacBook 12" 2017 (Model: MacBook10,1)

m3-7Y32 (1.2 - 3.0Ghz) - $1299

Single-Core Score: 3550.69
Multi-Core Score: 6717.19

Scores are based on 154 results.
i5-7Y54 (1.3 - 3.2Ghz) - $1399

Single-Core Score: 3571.57
Multi-Core Score: 6943.02

Scores are based on 136 results.
i7-7Y75 (1.4 - 3.6Ghz) - $1549

Single-Core Score: 3863.58
Multi-Core Score: 7486.1


nTB MacBook Pro 13" 2017 (Model: MacBookPro14,1)
i5-7360U (2.3 - 3.6Ghz) - $1499

Single-Core Score: 4333.7
Multi-Core Score: 9236.1


Scores are based on 398 results.
i7-7660U (2.5 - 4.0Ghz) - $1799

Single-Core Score: 4653.29
Multi-Core Score: 9572.25

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/10/30/apple-...2-inch-macbook/https://www.macrumors.com/2018/10/30/apple-quietly-eliminates-rose-gold-12-inch-macbook/

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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 31 2018, 10:26 PM)
12-inch macbook is certainly no question on the weight.

but it lacks of hardware and power still comparing to macbook pro or even the macbook air now.
single usb-c port and not even thunderbot 3 capable is a bummer.
with no touch-id also it makes it less convenient than macbook air or macbook pro.
512gb please. u will regret if you get 256gb model soon.
consider that even an iphone now has easily 256gb or 512gb. u cannot even backup your iphone on ur macbook without additional storage with configuration nee

dun cheap out on storage especially a macbook can easily use for 5 to 7 years or even longer.
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can i back up at external hardisk?
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possible. but need to create a soft-link of default backup to the drive of your portable hardisk.

i did it also. because even i have 512gb macbook pro, i have no free space to backup all my iphones on my macbook itself.
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any lubang to get it cheaper? or better deals for the 256GB version?
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maybe can ask any college students? cos they can apply for some discount...not alot like maybe rm200 like that (5%)
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Oct 31 2018, 11:37 PM)
My current asus ux305ua ultrabook 256gb remaining space is now: 90gb left out of 256gb. And that is for 2 years of usage from 2016 till now.

As a lecturer, i can get educator special price yes? So for the 256gb rm6029 would be rm5800 something i guess?
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Don't think you can compare orange to apple. Apple MacOS is good at organising files and after each update sometimes i end up with extra space because the OS sorta spring clean your MacBook for you. For window based laptop, your system files just get bigger and bigger until 2 or 3 years later you will be looking at chaining/upgrading your laptop ( or reformat your laptop as I used to do before 2012)

Currently using 2012 MacBook air 256gb and only used half of it. In the old day I stored all my songs and transfer to iPhone but since spotify and other apps are out and data is now cheap, i don't store ANY mp3 on my iPhone or MacBook so extra space! The most storage i need is for photo which I back up to my time machine yearly so 256 is good enough for me.

Again really depend on how you use it.
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Retina MacBook Air Geekbench tests show modest improvements over 2017 model & 12-inch MacBook

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Single core loose not much to the 2018 pro
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the new macbook air is using 7W y series processor - i5 8210Y Amber Lake. Similar to macbook 12-inch. however, it does has a fan so technically heat dispersion should be better on macbook air.



QUOTE(ychwang @ Nov 2 2018, 11:36 AM)
Retina MacBook Air Geekbench tests show modest improvements over 2017 model & 12-inch MacBook

http://flip.it/ny-9yx
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Single core loose not much to the 2018 pro
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yes, becos it is using similar processor than macbook and not macbook pro.

looks like macbook pro is still a more decent buy the non-touchbar version. however, non-touchbar version 13-inch mbp has not been upgraded for 2018. else, it is certainly a better buy than macbook air.

although the performance of macbook air is similar to 12-inch macbook, it should still be a better buy given that it has macbook pro features like touch id, 2 x thunderbot 3 port - this is a bummer. as thunderbot 3 has much more potential than the single non thunderbot 3 port on the 12-inch macbook.




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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Oct 31 2018, 11:37 PM)
My current asus ux305ua ultrabook 256gb remaining space is now: 90gb left out of 256gb. And that is for 2 years of usage from 2016 till now.

As a lecturer, i can get educator special price yes? So for the 256gb rm6029 would be rm5800 something i guess?
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somewhere around that but am not sure if lecturer can get education price, you may need other sifus here to answer you that, i bought it from other platform and its cheaper than apple official website even with edu discount




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any one can advice ? if now buying the old Macbook Air 2017 version, still worth it?
the new macbook air RM6099, the price vry expensive

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any one can advice ? if now buying the old Macbook Air 2017 version, still worth it?
the new macbook air RM6099, the price vry expensive
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totally not worth it. the display at today standard is nothing than trash.

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/01/first-...2018-benchmark/

better than macbook 12-inch in terms of processing power.
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likely to be cheaper? haha. if same price as macbook pro then does not make sense already. haha.

look like it is meant to replace the 12-inch macbook or 13-inch based model macbook pro without touchbar.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Oct 31 2018, 11:37 PM)
My current asus ux305ua ultrabook 256gb remaining space is now: 90gb left out of 256gb. And that is for 2 years of usage from 2016 till now.

As a lecturer, i can get educator special price yes? So for the 256gb rm6029 would be rm5800 something i guess?
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https://www.apple.com/my-k12/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air

And yup, lecturers would be able to qualify for education pricing.

From Apple policy:

Higher Education - Faculty and staff of Higher Education institutions; and students attending, or accepted into a Higher Education institution are eligible to purchase. Purchases from the Apple Store for Education Individuals are not for institutional purchase or resale.
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im planning getting macbook, not sure between Air or Pro w/o touchbar (2017) because only both of them suits my budget.

currently im leaning to the Pro, but i heard various case about keyboard reliability. now really not sure which to pick.

for usage, i'm mobile developer, will use xcode/android studio mostly. any suggestion?

if Air can cover my case, then it's fine to go for Air
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QUOTE(qyuu02 @ Nov 6 2018, 02:14 PM)
im planning getting macbook, not sure between Air or Pro w/o touchbar (2017) because only both of them suits my budget.

currently im leaning to the Pro, but i heard various case about keyboard reliability. now really not sure which to pick.

for usage, i'm mobile developer, will use xcode/android studio mostly. any suggestion?

if Air can cover my case, then it's fine to go for Air
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If you are buying now. 2017 MacBook Pro may not be a good choice since it has not been refreshed for a while.

MacBook Air at least it is a brand new product. And features wise it is actually better than MacBook Pro non-touchbar since it has Touch ID and T2 chip. Weight wise although not a lot but also has a little bit more advantage.

Price gap is not significant but do note that MacBook Pro non-touchbar comes with wide colour (P3) and 500 nits brightness display. so display wise, MacBook Pro is a sure win. And also base clock and turbo boost wise is better on MacBook Pro. Given more fans design, the MacBook Pro can confirm perform heavy tasks better. Graphic card, it is is iris graphic which is a graphic card customised for MacBook Pro to have better performance.

But I think unlikely they will update the MacBook touchbar so soon. Certainly not until next March the earliest. Or there is a possibility that they will not update the macbook non-touchbar but instead eliminate it together with the 12-inch macbook? That’s also possible. If the non-touchbar model has T2 chip and Touch ID like MacBook Air or MacBook Pro touchbar, I am sure no one will buy the later two as touchbar is not really useful to a lot of ppl and if given a choice people may prefer the high voltage processor on MacBook Pro for heavy duty tasks.

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QUOTE(westlife @ Nov 6 2018, 02:59 PM)
If you are buying now. 2017 MacBook Pro may not be a good choice since it has not been refreshed for a while.

MacBook Air at least it is a brand new product. And features wise it is actually better than MacBook Pro non-touchbar since it has Touch ID and T2 chip. Weight wise although not a lot but also has a little bit more advantage.

Price gap is not significant but do note that MacBook Pro non-touchbar comes with wide colour (P3) and 500 nits brightness display. so display wise, MacBook Pro is a sure win. And also base clock and turbo boost wise is better on MacBook Pro. Given more fans design, the MacBook Pro can confirm perform heavy tasks better. Graphic card, it is is iris graphic which is a graphic card customised for MacBook Pro to have better performance.

But I think unlikely they will update the MacBook touchbar so soon. Certainly not until next March the earliest. Or there is a possibility that they will not update the macbook non-touchbar but instead eliminate it together with the 12-inch macbook? That’s also possible. If the non-touchbar model has T2 chip and Touch ID like MacBook Air or MacBook Pro touchbar, I am sure no one will buy the later two as touchbar is not really useful to a lot of ppl and if given a choice people may prefer the high voltage processor on MacBook Pro for heavy duty tasks.
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thanks for the info, bu I still need the processing power, so most probably i go for pro 2017, but keyboard has issue that makes me think to go for Air. how likely i will encounter butterfly keyboard issue in 2nd generation? do you have any idea?
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QUOTE(qyuu02 @ Nov 7 2018, 09:56 AM)
thanks for the info, bu I still need the processing power, so most probably i go for pro 2017, but keyboard has issue that makes me think to go for Air. how likely i will encounter butterfly keyboard issue in 2nd generation? do you have any idea?
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I also wondering is it good to get MacBook Air 2017 as is pricing at 3499 in all the retailers.
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QUOTE(qyuu02 @ Nov 7 2018, 11:07 AM)
i dont think it's wise to get air 2017, it use 2015 chip, and i believe in coming 2-3 years it will be outdated. you can get good windows laptop if you doesn't require mac os with same price. but if you need mac os as i need it as well, then my suggestion is go for new updated laptop. which way more expensive cry.gif
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I see. Because looking at the price 3499 for now and it might get cheaper during Lazada 11.11 sales too. I have been planning for a new MacBook after the latest Mac OS discontinued on my old MacBook Pro 2011
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QUOTE(qyuu02 @ Nov 7 2018, 09:56 AM)
thanks for the info, bu I still need the processing power, so most probably i go for pro 2017, but keyboard has issue that makes me think to go for Air. how likely i will encounter butterfly keyboard issue in 2nd generation? do you have any idea?
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thanks for the info, bu I still need the processing power, so most probably i go for pro 2017, but keyboard has issue that makes me think to go for Air. how likely i will encounter butterfly keyboard issue in 2nd generation? do you have any idea?
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yes, looking at the spec of macbook air, i also think that macbook pro will be a better choice since it is using high-powered processor and not the low-powered one on macbook or macbook air. and side view, actually the macbook air looks thicker due to its wedge design.
but bad thing about 2017 macbook pro non-touchbar is that it is still using 7th gen processor.
macbook pro 2018 is having minimum quad-core for the i5 model which this actually makes very big difference comparing to the dual-core on macbook pro 2018.

i am using 2017 macbook pro touchbar, seriously i have not encountered any problem with my 2nd gen butterfly keyboards. according to the report on this by apple, it only affects small amount of users. i dun think one needs to worry so much on the keyboard, because if it is really the keyboard problem, apple actually has support program to replace it for free.

QUOTE(ffantasy @ Nov 7 2018, 10:41 AM)
I also wondering is it good to get MacBook Air 2017 as is pricing at 3499 in all the retailers.
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no point to get a 8 years old dated design product now with a lousy screen.

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Guys, i am thinking to get the new MacBook air just for normal web browsing + google spreadsheet use. Basic specs like 8GB + 128GB is enough?
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Guys, i am thinking to get the new MacBook air just for normal web browsing + google spreadsheet use. Basic specs like 8GB + 128GB is enough?
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8gb ram is certainly enough. but 128gb storage is not. minimally (super) you also should get 256gb. 512gb is the most ideal one.
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now where to get macbook air besides than apple website?
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now where to get macbook air besides than apple website?
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just read on some laptop review websites.

macbook air brightness vs macbook pro
300 vs 500 nits

anything lower than 300 nits will spell trouble if doing work at outside on shiny sun or room with extra bright lighting.

thoughts on this?
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 7 2018, 10:58 PM)
just read on some laptop review websites.

macbook air brightness vs macbook pro
300 vs 500 nits

anything lower than 300 nits will spell trouble if doing work at outside on shiny sun or room with extra bright lighting.

thoughts on this?
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500 nits may be useful under extreme condition such as super big sunlight.
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Higher brightness is needed if you’re going to use it outdoor. 300 nits is adequate for normally lit room and office. I have a thinkpad that has much lower brightness at 228 nits and i set the brightness a few notches from max. It’s too dim to be used outdoor.
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QUOTE(ultra78 @ Nov 8 2018, 07:00 AM)
Higher brightness is needed if you’re going to use it outdoor. 300 nits is adequate for normally lit room and office. I have a thinkpad that has much lower brightness at 228 nits and i set the brightness a few notches from max. It’s too dim to be used outdoor.
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I am using the thinkpad laptop for office. I can say the display is a trash when it compare to MacBook display.

Not only on brightness, it is certainly below 300 nits. I always find it not bright enough even I use it in office.
The colour range, accuracy etc. are totally crap.

If one has used any Retina display from apple, to use any other poorer display, it is a totally nightmare.
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Dun know is it due to the lighting in the shop. 300 nits on MacBook Air does not look bright enough.

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Dun know is it due to the lighting in the shop. 300 nits on MacBook Air does not look bright enough.

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Dun know is it due to the lighting in the shop. 300 nits on MacBook Air does not look bright enough.

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A bit disappointed by this. Not sure if I should get this or mbp base model.
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i am using macbook pro touchbar. prefer the power of higher powered cpu.

when doing multi-tasking, it will outperform the macbook or macbook air by a lot.

and the macbook pro has even thickness across the entire body unlike macbook air has wedge design.
macbook pro can use one finger to lift the lit, while macbook air cannot. even the 12-inch macbook also can.

the gold color is really like copper colour more. does not look really nice seriously.
even the rose gold colour previously on macbook looks nicer. but too bad they had removed the rose gold colour option from the 12-inch macbook now.

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damn. just as i feared.

MBA 2018's screen isn't bright enough, even in adequately bright room. sad.gif
But then again, i have to go to local apple shop to see it for myself.

Have you really cranked up the brightness settings to MAX?

so now, MBP non touch bar with 4 years keyboard warranty then? whistling.gif doh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 8 2018, 10:04 PM)
damn. just as i feared.

MBA 2018's screen isn't bright enough, even in adequately bright room.  sad.gif
But then again, i have to go to local apple shop to see it for myself.

Have you really cranked up the brightness settings to MAX?

so now, MBP non touch bar with 4 years keyboard warranty then?  whistling.gif  doh.gif  laugh.gif
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To be fair, as u know Apple retailer lighting is quite strong. It is purely my feel while under the spot light in the shop. However, it may not be the actual representation of how it looks in real.

The brightness is at maximum. Pretty much all products are defaulted to max brightness in the shop
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QUOTE(westlife @ Nov 8 2018, 08:42 AM)
I am using the thinkpad laptop for office. I can say the display is a trash when it compare to MacBook display.

Not only on brightness, it is certainly below 300 nits. I always find it not bright enough even I use it in office.
The colour range, accuracy etc. are totally crap.

If one has used any Retina display from apple, to use any other poorer display, it is a totally nightmare.
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Have to admit, it's one of the best screens out there.

Been using a MBP 15 and since then never looked back.

QUOTE(cucumber @ Nov 8 2018, 09:03 PM)
A bit disappointed by this. Not sure if I should get this or mbp base model.
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If you're gonna get a MBP, 15 is likely the way to go.

13 base model with 2 usb-C ports is rather inconvenient.
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Nov 9 2018, 08:03 AM)
Have to admit, it's one of the best screens out there.

Been using a MBP 15 and since then never looked back.
If you're gonna get a MBP, 15 is likely the way to go.

13 base model with 2 usb-C ports is rather inconvenient.
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15-inch is nice which I also love to have a big display. But consider the weight for reason of carrying around. 13-inch is the best choice. I carried it to Europe for 2 weeks trip with no stress at all.

Some more now the base model of MacBook Pro touchbar has quad-core processor the it makes it even more useable than before. Meaning no compromisation of processing power despite its size.
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deng which shop has it? I tried machines velocity yesterday but didn't see any...
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Machines or any authorised dealers have it already?
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When will available?
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I went to Machines KLCC just now. Asked the staff there when we can view the new MBA, they said they dunno - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Ifixit teardown is out:

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Air...Teardown/115201

Looks fairly repair friendly
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i think apple's direction on macbook is clear now.

authorized dealer no longer display non-touch macbook pro 13-inch.

so now the line up is clear.

1) macbook
2) macbook air
3) macbook pro 13/15-inch
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Is the new MacBook Air’s keyboard the same as the current MacBook Pro?
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i think apple's direction on macbook is clear now.

authorized dealer no longer display non-touch macbook pro 13-inch.

so now the line up is clear.

1) macbook
2) macbook air
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Before this was

1) macbook air
2) macbook
3) macbook pro

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Before this was

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2) macbook
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The MacBook Air has better speaker than MacBook Pro. Maybe it is due to the speaker position. It is positioned exactly at the speaker grille unlike MacBook Pro the grille is for decoration only which the speakers are positioned actually at the keyboard below position.
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The MacBook Air has better speaker than MacBook Pro. Maybe it is due to the speaker position. It is positioned exactly at the speaker grille unlike MacBook Pro the grille is for decoration only which the speakers are positioned actually at the keyboard below position.

Significant more bass can be heard on MacBook Air. Even better than the 12-inch macbook.

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Does this new macbook air screen in term of brightness is better than my early 2011 13” macbook pro?
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maybe the MBA 2018 only can be found in store mid of december, because i went to several shop, it still not having new MBA 2018
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I guess we'll have to wait until December to see it in store.

I've been using a thinkpad since 2012... time for an upgrade & have always wanted to try mac os.

Thinking of getting the new MBA but gosh... how do you guys justify the cost for these macbooks?

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I am using one now MBA Space Grey, and in comparison to MBP, the sound is tad better, the touchid is super fast and lighter too!

you're right about the display being not bright enough - that's if you put MBP side by side. Else, it is typical BAU to me.
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I am using one now MBA Space Grey, and in comparison to MBP, the sound is tad better, the touchid is super fast and lighter too!

you're right about the display being not bright enough - that's if you put MBP side by side. Else, it is typical BAU to me.
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QUOTE(cucumber @ Nov 14 2018, 05:40 PM)
I guess we'll have to wait until December to see it in store.

I've been using a thinkpad since 2012... time for an upgrade & have always wanted to try mac os.

Thinking of getting the new MBA but gosh... how do you guys justify the cost for these macbooks?
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Cost, dont really feel up to much as i pay by installment 12 month. If pay one time, sure hurt unless u got a lot of cash
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when is the first wave this MBA release in MY?
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How's your new mba? not bright enough also?
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I have a question, is the 2018 Macbook air better or the microsoft surface laptop?

Seems like the surface laptop is cheaper and higher specs than the macbook air.
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I have a question, is the 2018 Macbook air better or the microsoft surface laptop?

Seems like the surface laptop is cheaper and higher specs than the macbook air.
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There are a few ppl on macrumors complaining about the new 3rd gen keyboard... certain keys doing "double" stroke. See video above.

It doesn't happen all the time but enough to be an annoyance, considering the fact you're paying premium for this machine.

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QUOTE(cucumber @ Nov 21 2018, 10:30 PM)


There are a few ppl on macrumors complaining about the new 3rd gen keyboard... certain keys doing "double" stroke. See video above.

It doesn't happen all the time but enough to be an annoyance, considering the fact you're paying premium for this machine.
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aw crap!

and here i thought Apple had the keyboard problem ironed out already for the 3rd gen keyboard.
saw lotsa complaints at reddit & macrumours forum too.

Guess i have to hold my decision to buy MBA or MBP 2018 for that matter, until they can really fix the problem.

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 21 2018, 10:49 PM)
aw crap!

and here i thought Apple had the keyboard problem ironed out already for the 3rd gen keyboard.
saw lotsa complaints at reddit & macrumours forum too.

Guess i have to hold my decision to buy MBA or MBP 2018 for that matter, until they can really fix the problem.

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According to the owner in the video, she got the MBA replaced and it's still having the same issue but with different keys this time. What a bummer
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A lot of YouTube reviewers are comparing the MBA against the MS Surface Laptop 2. At the end of the day the one thing which stood out between the two was down to the keyboard and your preferred OS.
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3. Warrranty claim issue when hardware failure. You need to wait quite a long period

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Don’t select surface. Here is feedback from my friend
1. Keyboard base change colour & dirty after a period
Yes. I saw the demo unit in lowyat IT hypermarket yesterday & it's freaking gross. I touched it & not only it's dirty but it feels sticky. Yuck!
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So far my MBA 2018 didn't gave the double stroke key issue. Maybe it is by batch of butterfly keyboard.
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Switch & machine shops around penang & kedah still dont have MbA2018 demo unit yet.

When i asked them, they say not sure.
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Don’t select surface. Here is feedback from my friend
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2. My friend cannot use while plug to power. Got static electricity around the laptop
3. Warrranty claim issue when hardware failure. You need to wait quite a long period
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Switch & machine shops around penang & kedah still dont have MbA2018 demo unit yet.

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Dunno whether wanted to switch or not .
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finally saw the macbook air in person..most machines in KL area already have it in stock..its a mehhhh for me... doesn't feel that great.. yea might as well top up for macbook pro 2017 ntb...
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I'm still not sure if I should get the new MBA or the 2017 ntb Macbook pro. sad.gif
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MacBook Pro is better. Nicer and brighter screen. But u need to go for touchbar model for the Touch ID.

2017 non-touchbar is not bad but it has not been yet since last year. unless u buy at discounted price, else it is not really worth it too.

I will go for the 2018 MacBook Pro touchbar instead.

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Yea... I saw it yesterday at klcc's machine.

The MBA's full brightness is probably equivalent to MBP's 70% brightness. I don't think that's a deal breaker.

It's nicer to hold due to its wedge design unlike MBP's blocky design.

Weight wise, both are pretty similar... so no extra points for portability.

For me, I think the MBP offers better value for its price.
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Yea... I saw it yesterday at klcc's machine.

The MBA's full brightness is probably equivalent to MBP's 70% brightness. I don't think that's a deal breaker.

It's nicer to hold due to its wedge design unlike MBP's blocky design.

Weight wise, both are pretty similar... so no extra points for portability.

For me, I think the MBP offers better value for its price.
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for brightness wise, in terms of normal usage, it is not going to make a big difference, this is true. since it has the minimum requirement of brightness of 300 nits. just not impressive. but it lacks the P3 color gamut and true tone display of the 2018 macbook pro.

for me, i prefer the boxy design of macbook pro, it is more uniform for the entire body everywhere.
macbook air is keeping its wedge design which is the same as macbook 12-inch also.

yup, weight wise not significant advantage.
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Tried it out too yesterday,

That brightness is such a turn off, just not bright enough and the lack of ports is also a deal breaker for me.

I do like the wedge shape, nicer to type versus MBP since your arm will hurt in a long run.
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looking to purchase MBA 2018 256GB,

but price difference between 128GB and 256GB is RM850. wtf apple? now seriously thinking again

if RM400 difference still can stomach...anyone that can find better deal please let me know tq
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looking to purchase MBA 2018 256GB,

but price difference between 128GB and 256GB is RM850. wtf apple? now seriously thinking again

if RM400 difference still can stomach...anyone that can find better deal please let me know tq
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not possible to be rm400 la. rm400 meaning it is lesser than USD100 which is impossible. Apple SSD for macbook is lightning fast, you cannot compare with other ssd.
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looking to purchase MBA 2018 256GB,

but price difference between 128GB and 256GB is RM850. wtf apple? now seriously thinking again

if RM400 difference still can stomach...anyone that can find better deal please let me know tq
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Agree man. That's the thing. You can actually get last year's MBP for a cheaper price.

https://m.11street.my/productdetail/apple-1...-apple-67515458

As much as I like the MBA design, it's tough sell imho. Perhaps can wait for cheaper imported versions to arrive here.

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not possible to be rm400 la. rm400 meaning it is lesser than USD100 which is impossible. Apple SSD for macbook is lightning fast, you cannot compare with other ssd.
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yeah i know apple ssd is lightning fast, but 128gb to 256gb must add rm850 is day light robbery.

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/macbook-...0KenZs&search=1

found MBPtb for rm6299, which is slightly higher than rm6099 mba 256gb. might bit the bullet for this offer rclxm9.gif
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yeah i know apple ssd is lightning fast, but 128gb to 256gb must add rm850 is day light robbery.

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/macbook-...0KenZs&search=1

found MBPtb for rm6299, which is slightly higher than rm6099 mba 256gb. might bit the bullet for this offer  rclxm9.gif
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better still, MBP TB is better than the new MBA.
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I can't push myself to buy MBP TB. If they had updated MBP ntb, then I'd have bought it.
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QUOTE(evilsmile @ Dec 10 2018, 02:56 PM)
yeah i know apple ssd is lightning fast, but 128gb to 256gb must add rm850 is day light robbery.

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/macbook-...0KenZs&search=1

found MBPtb for rm6299, which is slightly higher than rm6099 mba 256gb. might bit the bullet for this offer  rclxm9.gif
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This is 2017 TB model ya, its Dual Core.
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yeah 2018 better, even 13-inch is quard-core.
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Yup but i still dont understand why there's no SD Card reader - for a Pro model
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did you guys buy the 128GB model or 256GB??

128GB feels like not enough... sad.gif
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did you guys buy the 128GB model or 256GB??

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256gb is also not enough. minimum 512gb one should buy.

even iphone nowadays people are buying 256gb mininum.
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128GB sure not enuf. 256GB if you don’t store a lot of thing & leverage on cloud.
MIne 256GB, left 150+ only. But you can leverage on SSD- USB C portable to store other infrequent data.That will save more as every upgrade need to incur 800+ from apple.
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128GB sure not enuf. 256GB if you don’t store a lot of thing & leverage on cloud.
MIne 256GB, left 150+ only. But you can leverage on SSD- USB C portable to store other infrequent data.That will save more as every upgrade need to incur 800+ from apple.
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dun waste time for 128gb. u will certainly regret if you do so, i can guarantee you.

256gb is also not enough. minimum 512gb one should buy.

even iphone nowadays people are buying 256gb mininum.
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I think it depends on usage. If he's on a tight budget, would suggest for the 128GB + iCloud Storage, alternatively an external portable SSD.

The RM800+ price bump for a 256GB is quite costly for some, even if you buy an external SSD 500GB only cost under 400, so its all very much how he perceive his value.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Dec 10 2018, 05:05 AM)
for brightness wise, in terms of normal usage, it is not going to make a big difference, this is true. since it has the minimum requirement of brightness of 300 nits. just not impressive. but it lacks the P3 color gamut and true tone display of the 2018 macbook pro.

for me, i prefer the boxy design of macbook pro, it is more uniform for the entire body everywhere.
macbook air is keeping its wedge design which is the same as macbook 12-inch also.

yup, weight wise not significant advantage.
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if we turn on the brightness at MAX setting on MBA2018, this will hurt the battery yes?
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I think it depends on usage. If he's on a tight budget, would suggest for the 128GB + iCloud Storage, alternatively an external portable SSD.

The RM800+ price bump for a 256GB is quite costly for some, even if you buy an external SSD 500GB only cost under 400, so its all very much how he perceive his value.
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one can cheap out on spec due to budget constraint, but it will not stop the regrets later for getting the minimum requirement. a 128gb storage size will limit the capability and what you can do on the macbook itself. working storage is totally different comparing to external storage or even cloud storage.

this is not first time there are fellow forumer asking about whether they can buy 128gb macbook here. if you check back the history, they all regreted.

even an iphone that majority are using now is 128gb or 256gb. you cannot even backup an iphone on your macbook without tweeting the setting to use external storage.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Dec 11 2018, 03:44 PM)
one can cheap out on spec due to budget constraint, but it will not stop the regrets later for getting the minimum requirement. a 128gb storage size will limit the capability and what you can do on the macbook itself. working storage is totally different comparing to external storage or even cloud storage.

this is not first time there are fellow forumer asking about whether they can buy 128gb macbook here. if you check back the history, they all regreted.

even an iphone that majority are using now is 128gb or 256gb. you cannot even backup an iphone on your macbook without tweeting the setting to use external storage.
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Well I guess to each its own? Some people will only have budget for the 128GB model, even then it already stretched their budget beyond means, so I guess its all depends on the budget.

Thou I'm not suggesting the 128GB is sufficient for an average user, for some it is. These group of people are not the media heavy type, basically just use their MacBooks for work, emails, browsing and probably Netflix streaming. Dont really need alot of storage space for that actually. Even if they do require additional storage, cloud or external is there.

Anyway, majority can buy what they deemed as 'enough', at the end of the day we cant change what people want to buy. I always believe in choices. We can always suggest to go one better, but if the person has a limited budget, they will have to make do and identify alternatives, its not wrong anyway.

Afterall, there's always iCloud.


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if we turn on the brightness at MAX setting on MBA2018, this will hurt the battery yes?
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Wouldn't use the word harm, more like drain faster, thats all.

You just need to charge more often if you crank upmthe brightness to full, or you can just keep it plugged in. No harm.
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Well I guess to each its own? Some people will only have budget for the 128GB model, even then it already stretched their budget beyond means, so I guess its all depends on the budget.

Thou I'm not suggesting the 128GB is sufficient for an average user, for some it is. These group of people are not the media heavy type, basically just use their MacBooks for work, emails, browsing and probably Netflix streaming. Dont really need alot of storage space for that actually. Even if they do require additional storage, cloud or external is there.

Anyway, majority can buy what they deemed as 'enough', at the end of the day we cant change what people want to buy. I always believe in choices. We can always suggest to go one better, but if the person has a limited budget, they will have to make do and identify alternatives, its not wrong anyway.

Afterall, there's always iCloud.
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of course I am referring to general majority, of it is to discuss about individual need there is no need to discuss becos it only affects one. 128gb is way too pathetic for even general users. anyone has used computer should know. Not to mention that 128gb limits the possibility to dual boot with windows (if one needs to).

Of course individual has his own Budget, but if u are buying something that likely will cause problems later due to fact that one cheap out at the beginning, it is not going to be good for later.

I saw many suggestions about external storage, cloud storage. If u are considering all these options or even think about it before you actually buy it, it already means that you need more storage likely. Now we talking the need instead of how to do a damage control for not meeting the need in the first place. U must know the fact that one cannot easily replace the ssd for MacBook, even u can, you are going to spend more money later than choosing the right size initially.

Dun forget, one needs to pay external storage or cloud storage, they are not free either. Especially for cloud storage, u will have recurring cost. A MacBook can easily be used for 5 to 7 years. The recurring cost may be the same as the initial cost too. And the internal storage especially Apple one is totally sky and earth difference in terms of speed as compare to any external storage etc. One will need enough internal ‘working space’ for multiple tasks.

If it is really budget constraint, maybe not choosing Apple but go for other brands that are cheaper cost and better spec maybe a more right thing to do.

Ultimately, the person who asked this qns can assess individual comments sensibly based on his actual needs. I dun think we need to have common comments to him before he can even decide. eventually, different people look at things from different angle too.

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QUOTE(westlife @ Dec 11 2018, 06:49 PM)
of course I am referring to general majority, of it is to discuss about individual need there is no need to discuss becos it only affects one. 128gb is way too pathetic for even general users. anyone has used computer should know. Not to mention that 128gb limits the possibility to dual boot with windows (if one needs to).

Of course individual has his own Budget, but if u are buying something that likely will cause problems later due to fact that one cheap out at the beginning, it is not going to be good for later.

I saw many suggestions about external storage, cloud storage. If u are considering all these options or even think about it before you actually buy it, it already means that you need more storage likely. Now we talking the need instead of how to do a damage control for not meeting the need in the first place. U must know the fact that one cannot easily replace the ssd for MacBook, even u can, you are going to spend more money later than choosing the right size initially.

Dun forget, one needs to pay external storage or cloud storage, they are not free either. Especially for cloud storage, u will have recurring cost. A MacBook can easily be used for 5 to 7 years. The recurring cost may be the same as the initial cost too. And the internal storage especially Apple one is totally sky and earth difference in terms of speed as compare to any external storage etc. One will need enough internal ‘working space’ for multiple tasks.

If it is really budget constraint, maybe not choosing Apple but go for other brands that are cheaper cost and better spec maybe a more right thing to do.

Ultimately, the person who asked this qns can assess individual comments sensibly based on his actual needs. I dun think we need to have common comments to him before he can even decide. eventually, different people look at things from different angle too.
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We're shared our views and opinions here, I guess lets leave it to the person asking the question to ponder about.

I would personally go for 256GB, but I wouldn't impose my views on others, hence I've stated the alternatives for those who are actually considering the 128GB that its not the end of the world yet.

By the way, that line that I've bolded - lets not judge or tell people what's wrong or right for them, leave it to them to decide.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Dec 11 2018, 12:23 AM)
dun waste time for 128gb. u will certainly regret if you do so, i can guarantee you.

256gb is also not enough. minimum 512gb one should buy.

even iphone nowadays people are buying 256gb mininum.
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I'm using 256GB and dual boot 128gb each split for win/macos
been using it over 3yrs with my old mba, so far haven't run into situation not enuf storage,
I'm doing code and my source code mostly ~200mb and after zip its only 30mb.

if u're purely code in python/script dev, it use end less storage where u can put in GitHub.

for photo, I have over 10k photo taken from iPhone since many yrs back, all sync to cloud and occupied only a little bit of space with optimise storage mode.
iCloud 50GB only RM3.9/month

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Dec 10 2018, 12:01 PM)
Tried it out too yesterday,

That brightness is such a turn off, just not bright enough and the lack of ports is also a deal breaker for me.

I do like the wedge shape, nicer to type versus MBP since your arm will hurt in a long run.
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yes, I have the same thinking too, like the design of air as I always lie my palm flat while typing.

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MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015)
2.5 GHz Intel Core i7
16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
512GB SSD storage
AMD Radeon R9 M370X 2048 MB
Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB

and

Macbook Air 2018

1.6GHz dual‑core 8th‑generation Intel Core i5 processor, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
Retina display
16GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
512GB SSD storage
Intel UHD Graphics 617

Dunno whether wanted to switch or not .
main reason was ,

1)Weight due to travelling
2)and Lesser video editing works.

How u guys think ?
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the reason I'm pick MBA over mpb although the price diff is very minimal. (RM500 diff)

1) was told by friend MBP 4core is not possible to type on ur lap, its too hot.
2) if want 4core, TB is only choice, and hitting flat surface when coding is very very bad idea, I rather pay same price TB 2018 4core and get rid of TB with ordinary keyboard


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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Dec 5 2018, 03:16 PM)
MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015)
2.5 GHz Intel Core i7
16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
512GB SSD storage
AMD Radeon R9 M370X 2048 MB
Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB

and

Macbook Air 2018

1.6GHz dual‑core 8th‑generation Intel Core i5 processor, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
Retina display
16GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
512GB SSD storage
Intel UHD Graphics 617

Dunno whether wanted to switch or not .
main reason was ,

1)Weight due to travelling
2)and Lesser video editing works.

How u guys think ?
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the reason I'm pick MBA over mpb although the price diff is very minimal. (RM500 diff)

1) was told by friend MBP 4core is not possible to type on ur lap, its too hot.
2) if want 4core, TB is only choice, and hitting flat surface when coding is very very bad idea, I rather pay same price TB 2018 4core and get rid of TB with ordinary keyboard

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did you guys buy the 128GB model or 256GB??

128GB feels like not enough... sad.gif
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Why u feel so? Will you use such big apps on your macbook? Will you store all your files, movies, project files on your macbook? What will take most of your storage portion?

How can you address it in the best way financially? Would you rather pay extra for more onboard storage, or would you be okay to pay less for an external additional storage eg external ssd/hdd? Do you have that extra money for extra onboard storage when you buy the laptop? If you opt for 128gb storage, Can you survive with that 128gb until you have sufficient money to fund for an external storage?

These are the Qs that might help you to decide which storage to go.

My experience:
I bought a nTB MBP 256GB. In a way, i was lucky since that time 256GB was the base model. I utilize not even half for my consumptions. I bought an external usb c hdd to keep my OS backups, and to keep my entertainment GBs. I use cloud storage like dropbox, like since 2009. I treat my laptop as a transit for my big sized files before transferring to external HDD. I can survive with only two ports. I dont have any usb c hub, except an usb a adapter.

When i first bought the macbook, i tried to survive with whatever onboard. The preinstalled MacOS apps, the two ports i had, the storage. And it didn't in any way affect my productivity. Of course there were few things i had to give and take but in short, i get things done without hiccups and no time wasting with what i have in my hands.
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QUOTE(screwedpeep @ Dec 13 2018, 02:23 AM)
Why u feel so? Will you use such big apps on your macbook? Will you store all your files, movies, project files on your macbook? What will take most of your storage portion?

How can you address it in the best way financially? Would you rather pay extra for more onboard storage, or would you be okay to pay less for an external additional storage eg external ssd/hdd? Do you have that extra money for extra onboard storage when you buy the laptop? If you opt for 128gb storage, Can you survive with that 128gb until you have sufficient money to fund for an external storage?

These are the Qs that might help you to decide which storage to go.

My experience:
I bought a nTB MBP 256GB. In a way, i was lucky since that time 256GB was the base model. I utilize not even half for my consumptions. I bought an external usb c hdd to keep my OS backups, and to keep my entertainment GBs. I use cloud storage like dropbox, like since 2009. I treat my laptop as a transit for my big sized files before transferring to external HDD. I can survive with only two ports. I dont have any usb c hub, except an usb a adapter.

When i first bought the macbook, i tried to survive with whatever onboard. The preinstalled MacOS apps, the two ports i had, the storage. And it didn't in any way affect my productivity. Of course there were few things i had to give and take but in short, i get things done without hiccups and no time wasting with what i have in my hands.
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Actually, I agree. If I get 128GB, I'm sure I'll be able to make it work. Just a little more trouble. I also got a WD external harddisk. Also got dropbox but 10GB is almost full.
My current macbook pro has about ~8GB left, out of the original 160GB. It's my friend who told me that it will not be enough.

Anyway, now I'm thinking of getting TB MPB. I hope I'll not regret it. sad.gif
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QUOTE(ychwang @ Dec 13 2018, 12:09 AM)

1) was told by friend MBP 4core is not possible to type on ur lap, its too hot.
This is concerning. Could other 2018 13" MPB owners confirm this?
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QUOTE(screwedpeep @ Dec 13 2018, 02:23 AM)
Why u feel so? Will you use such big apps on your macbook? Will you store all your files, movies, project files on your macbook? What will take most of your storage portion?

How can you address it in the best way financially? Would you rather pay extra for more onboard storage, or would you be okay to pay less for an external additional storage eg external ssd/hdd? Do you have that extra money for extra onboard storage when you buy the laptop? If you opt for 128gb storage, Can you survive with that 128gb until you have sufficient money to fund for an external storage?

These are the Qs that might help you to decide which storage to go.

My experience:
I bought a nTB MBP 256GB. In a way, i was lucky since that time 256GB was the base model. I utilize not even half for my consumptions. I bought an external usb c hdd to keep my OS backups, and to keep my entertainment GBs. I use cloud storage like dropbox, like since 2009. I treat my laptop as a transit for my big sized files before transferring to external HDD. I can survive with only two ports. I dont have any usb c hub, except an usb a adapter.

When i first bought the macbook, i tried to survive with whatever onboard. The preinstalled MacOS apps, the two ports i had, the storage. And it didn't in any way affect my productivity. Of course there were few things i had to give and take but in short, i get things done without hiccups and no time wasting with what i have in my hands.
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I think this is a good explanation - we need to assess 2 situations and you did address it instead just giving one option for the question, which is to get the 256GB as a 'standard' without considering other's situation.
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anyone use macbook air for app mobile development such as android studio or xcode? will it be slow?
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I plan to buy notebook and my friends recommend macbook air for my usage (I'm coming from windows). Good discussion on storage size here, and would like to ask:

If I buy MBA with 128g ssd and buy cloud storage at home because I also want to access same files / images from different pcs at office or home. Does it make sense? Now with unifi turbo, speed won't be an issue right?
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QUOTE(ejenmulder @ Dec 13 2018, 11:25 AM)
I plan to buy notebook and my friends recommend macbook air for my usage (I'm coming from windows). Good discussion on storage size here, and would like to ask:

If I buy MBA with 128g ssd and buy cloud storage at home because I also want to access same files / images from different pcs at office or home. Does it make sense? Now with unifi turbo, speed won't be an issue right?
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Its worth considering, not so straining on your budget if you have one. I guess a portable external SSD is still a better choice - Sandisk has really portable ones.

Depends on usage, if you are media heavy (movies and videos) then cloud storage will be slightly inconvenient (if you want to access these files out of home) - if its just images or files then it shouldn't be an issue.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Dec 13 2018, 12:06 PM)
Its worth considering, not so straining on your budget if you have one. I guess a portable external SSD is still a better choice - Sandisk has really portable ones.

Depends on usage, if you are media heavy (movies and videos) then cloud storage will be slightly inconvenient (if you want to access these files out of home) - if its just images or files then it shouldn't be an issue.
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Cool. I will mostly be transferring files and images. Occasionally, will transfer short videos from my drone (once I a while only). Other than that, mostly used for office emails, powerpoints and browsing. Thanks bro
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Switch is offering 24 months 0% installment plan for all macbooks.. MBA starting from only RM219 a month for 24 months.. Pretty tempting.
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Switch is offering 24 months 0% installment plan for all macbooks.. MBA starting from only RM219 a month for 24 months.. Pretty tempting.
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so, how's MBA2018 treating you all so far?


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MBA 2018 is discounted on christmas sale in US, and it's huge discount, wish they did the same here lol
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so, how's MBA2018 treating you all so far?
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Been using the 256GB model for over 2 weeks now, was contemplating between the TB Pro 2018 but ended up with the Air anyway.

Long story short, I'm glad I chose this model.

Performance wise, it's decent - based on my current routine (web browsing, moving in and about (portability), emails, worksheets, photo editing via PS or Lightroom), seems to be able to hold up quite a bit. The noise from the fans does grow louder on heavier task, especially when importing high-res RAW files to Photoshop etc but I don't notice any dip in performance with these tasks.

Overall the screen's great, the battery's great. Slapped a USB C Hub and it's ready for the world. Ultimately the form factor is very nice, ideal for those who needs portability. The Flash SSD onboard is perfect, noticeably faster than a lot of SSD on the market. Brightness is still a cons for me, especially outdoors. It's not as bright as the Pro models, but if you're always indoors, shouldn't be too much of an issue I guess.

On paper, the Air seems like an outdated machine, slow dual-core Y series processor, but in reality, its enough for most normal people who are not media professionals or creative people that requires heavy graphics, quad-cores etc.



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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Dec 20 2018, 09:53 PM)
Been using the 256GB model for over 2 weeks now, was contemplating between the TB Pro 2018 but ended up with the Air anyway.

Long story short, I'm glad I chose this model.

Performance wise, it's decent - based on my current routine (web browsing, moving in and about (portability), emails, worksheets, photo editing via PS or Lightroom), seems to be able to hold up quite a bit. The noise from the fans does grow louder on heavier task, especially when importing high-res RAW files to Photoshop etc but I don't notice any dip in performance with these tasks.

Overall the screen's great, the battery's great. Slapped a USB C Hub and it's ready for the world. Ultimately the form factor is very nice, ideal for those who needs portability. The Flash SSD onboard is perfect, noticeably faster than a lot of SSD on the market. Brightness is still a cons for me, especially outdoors. It's not as bright as the Pro models, but if you're always indoors, shouldn't be too much of an issue I guess.

On paper, the Air seems like an outdated machine, slow dual-core Y series processor, but in reality, its enough for most normal people who are not media professionals or creative people that requires heavy graphics, quad-cores etc.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Dec 20 2018, 08:53 PM)
Been using the 256GB model for over 2 weeks now, was contemplating between the TB Pro 2018 but ended up with the Air anyway.

Long story short, I'm glad I chose this model.

Performance wise, it's decent - based on my current routine (web browsing, moving in and about (portability), emails, worksheets, photo editing via PS or Lightroom), seems to be able to hold up quite a bit. The noise from the fans does grow louder on heavier task, especially when importing high-res RAW files to Photoshop etc but I don't notice any dip in performance with these tasks.

Overall the screen's great, the battery's great. Slapped a USB C Hub and it's ready for the world. Ultimately the form factor is very nice, ideal for those who needs portability. The Flash SSD onboard is perfect, noticeably faster than a lot of SSD on the market. Brightness is still a cons for me, especially outdoors. It's not as bright as the Pro models, but if you're always indoors, shouldn't be too much of an issue I guess.

On paper, the Air seems like an outdated machine, slow dual-core Y series processor, but in reality, its enough for most normal people who are not media professionals or creative people that requires heavy graphics, quad-cores etc.
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How is ur 256gb storage holding up? Do you think if one can survive with 128gb?

just my personal preference only.

if one is doing heavy tasks, the new 2018 MBP is a better choice. the min quad-core i5 processor on 13-inch will make a difference in long run.

display wise, it is actually quite a big difference as compared to MacBook Pro.

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I prefer the boxy everywhere design of MacBook Pro too instead of the wedge design.

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which color did u choose?
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Space Grey, to match my phone and Apple Watch. Except my Magic Mouse - Space Grey pricing is just unjustifiable (additional RM100)

QUOTE(westlife @ Dec 21 2018, 09:58 AM)
How is ur 256gb storage holding up? Do you think if one can survive with 128gb?

just my personal preference only.

if one is doing heavy tasks, the new 2018 MBP is a better choice. the min quad-core i5 processor on 13-inch will make a difference in long run.

display wise, it is actually quite a big difference as compared to MacBook Pro.

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I prefer the boxy everywhere design of MacBook Pro too instead of the wedge design.
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Erm I only used up 40GB so far, inclusive of OS. Most of my stuff are stored in my External SSD, especially media files like movies and photos.

128GB should be okay for normal users with Netflix subscription or any paid streaming services because you don't need to download. Power wise, Quad-Core is always the way to go, but only if you really need it? However, software like BitTorrent will surely turn the CPU fan up, meaning it will be quite loud - not common with standard quad-core CPUs. Its straining the dual-core!

Agree on the brightness, but if indoor use it's really not that bad. Max brightness indoors is just.. not practical.
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So any more rMBA users out there?

Whats your opinion?

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Anyone has issue with brightness when outdoor?
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Anyone has issue with brightness when outdoor?
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I feel the brightness is not enough for indoor if you are under very bright light.
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How's the new screen? Noticeable difference?
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Bought mine last week. Wanna ask for recommendation on usb-c dongle with VGA, HDMI and GE LAN port. Are those China OEM brand in Lazada, shopee ok?
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So far I just usd indoor. So, no brightness problem for me.
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QUOTE(ejenmulder @ Jan 15 2019, 03:48 PM)
Bought mine last week.  Wanna ask for recommendation on usb-c dongle with VGA, HDMI and GE LAN port.  Are those China OEM brand in Lazada, shopee ok?
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Best to source from reputable brands - just in case.

Examples of decent hubs - Saatachi, Hyperdrive etc - even Apple's own are decent.
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QUOTE(ejenmulder @ Jan 15 2019, 03:48 PM)
Bought mine last week.  Wanna ask for recommendation on usb-c dongle with VGA, HDMI and GE LAN port.  Are those China OEM brand in Lazada, shopee ok?
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i'm using ugreen. so far so good
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Jan 15 2019, 04:07 PM)
Best to source from reputable brands - just in case.

Examples of decent hubs - Saatachi, Hyperdrive etc - even Apple's own are decent.
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i'm using ugreen. so far so good
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noted. also got my eye on ugreen. no interception with wifi signal right?
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noted. also got my eye on ugreen. no interception with wifi signal right?
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used it for 3 month, dont have any issue. My dongle got
-VGA
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-other card readers
No issue on connecting to external hdd as well.only one dongle kaotim all

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anyone buy 128gb? is it enough?
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not enuf. mine left 140GB free for 256GB
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3rd gen keyboard still a failure for MBA2018 & MBP2018.

guess i hold my purchase first.

or maybe get the 7th gen Lenovo X1 Carbon slated for June 2019.

haihhhh rclxub.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Jan 21 2019, 05:43 PM)


3rd gen keyboard still a failure for MBA2018 & MBP2018.

guess i hold my purchase first.

or maybe get the 7th gen Lenovo X1 Carbon slated for June 2019.

haihhhh rclxub.gif  doh.gif
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People keep saying it only affects a tiny percentage of the units... but when you have big celebrity youtubers like casey neistat, unbox therapy, apple youtubers like luke miani, rene ritchie, zoneoftech, all having problems with the keyboard... then the odds are really much bigger.

I've already got my cash ready to get one of these but I just cannot do it man... urgh... sigh





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QUOTE(cucumber @ Jan 21 2019, 09:06 PM)
People keep saying it only affects a tiny percentage of the units... but when you have big celebrity youtubers like casey neistat, unbox therapy, apple youtubers like luke miani, rene ritchie, zoneoftech, all having problems with the keyboard... then the odds are really much bigger.

I've already got my cash ready to get one of these but I just cannot do it man... urgh... sigh
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unbox therapy is an apple hater, seriously i won't recon to take his comments seriously.

and if 2018 models really have serious keyboard issues, apple would have set up repair program like 2016 models.

my 2017 model of macbook pro tb has no issues on the keyboard so far. already 1 years 7 months now.
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QUOTE(cucumber @ Jan 21 2019, 09:06 PM)
People keep saying it only affects a tiny percentage of the units... but when you have big celebrity youtubers like casey neistat, unbox therapy, apple youtubers like luke miani, rene ritchie, zoneoftech, all having problems with the keyboard... then the odds are really much bigger.

I've already got my cash ready to get one of these but I just cannot do it man... urgh... sigh
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lol...just get applecare protection. Worry free for additional 2 years
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jan 21 2019, 10:06 PM)
unbox therapy is an apple hater, seriously i won't recon to take his comments seriously.

and if 2018 models really have serious keyboard issues, apple would have set up repair program like 2016 models.

my 2017 model of macbook pro tb has no issues on the keyboard so far. already 1 years 7 months now.
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how do you properly use & maintain the keyboard?

pls kindly do share with us thanks.
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how do you properly use & maintain the keyboard?

pls kindly do share with us thanks.
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moshi keyboard protector.  tongue.gif
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how much is the price?
can buy at shopee/lazada?

appreciate if you could insert the link here thanks
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how much is the price?
can buy at shopee/lazada?

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i bought it in lion city. not all stores sell it. but u can try those apple authorised reseller.

https://www.moshi.com/en/product/keyboard-p...arguard-macbook
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I guess the keyboard defects are worrying for some, but I guess it all depends on usage.

Lets say if your Mac is always closed when not in use, you dont eat while using it or the type of people who slams their fingers hard on the keyboard like gamers etc, shouldnt worry too much.

Most of the problems are debris being stuck at the bottom of the switches, even on the 3rd gen. The silicones are mainly used to reduce the sound clatter, rather than keeping debris out of the keys - i might be wrong, do correct me if I am.
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From what I read on macrumors and reddit, it seems like the double key press issue is not really related to debris nor how you use the keyboard.

Those who use keyboard protectors are still affected by it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comment...ingsticky_keys/

Some experience it even after replacing the keyboards *multiple* times.

The only feasible way to mitigate the problem (sort of) is with an app called Unshaky.
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how much is the price?
can buy at shopee/lazada?

appreciate if you could insert the link here thanks
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Dun need to buy branded one,
i got mine from this website, and it cost only RMB6.8 each, i straight away order 3, the quality is great



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Hye guys,wanna ask..there is no mba 11 now?only 12 n 13?

I need the cheapest macbook..last time got mine mba13..2012...now wanna buy for my wife
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QUOTE(da drummer @ Mar 5 2019, 06:33 PM)
Hye guys,wanna ask..there is no mba 11 now?only 12 n 13?

I need the cheapest macbook..last time got mine mba13..2012...now wanna buy for my wife
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Still selling what the old thick bezel MacBook Air. But only 13-inch option.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Mar 5 2019, 06:58 PM)
Still selling what the old thick bezel MacBook Air. But only 13-inch option.
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Cheapest around rm5000 rite?last time mine rm3990 if im not mistaken
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QUOTE(da drummer @ Mar 5 2019, 07:18 PM)
Cheapest around rm5000 rite?last time mine rm3990 if im not mistaken
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cheapest old gen macbook can get for around 3k+ with 128gb+8gb ram.
quite worth to get.

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Hye guys..how much to change macboom air mid 2012 bateri at apple?
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Hello MacBook Air 2018 owner. Wanna to confirm isn’t 128GB REALLY NOT ENOUGH for student ? How much GB left after all the build-in apps ???

Hope u all can reply !!!
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Hey, I'm letting go my rMBA 2018 (Model) with 250GB for an attractive price - upgrading to the Pro as I feel the MBA does not have enough power for my work.

My MBA always struggles with heavy Powerpoint slides, need a Pro to manage the power lol.
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QUOTE(Ryanang @ Apr 13 2019, 02:43 PM)
Hello MacBook Air 2018 owner. Wanna to confirm isn’t 128GB REALLY NOT ENOUGH for student ? How much GB left after all the build-in apps ???

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min 256GB. mine 256GB, left 130GB
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Hello MacBook Air 2018 owner. Wanna to confirm isn’t 128GB REALLY NOT ENOUGH for student ? How much GB left after all the build-in apps ???

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256gb is bare min. ideally 512gb for future proof.

Space grey ftw.

Go with MacBook Pro non-touch bar is better.

MacBook Air the display is not bright. 300nits only.

And processor is weak. Nothing really better by a lot comparing to macbook 12-inch.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Apr 13 2019, 04:30 PM)
256gb is bare min. ideally 512gb for future proof.

Space grey ftw.

Go with MacBook Pro non-touch bar is better.

MacBook Air the display is not bright. 300nits only.

And processor is weak. Nothing really better by a lot comparing to macbook 12-inch.
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But If buy space grey , I will feel dull after see & use for long time . But silver still the classic colour right . Agree ? wink.gif
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But If buy space grey , I will feel dull after see & use for long time . But silver still the classic colour right . Agree ? wink.gif
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QUOTE(Ryanang @ Apr 13 2019, 02:43 PM)
Hello MacBook Air 2018 owner. Wanna to confirm isn’t 128GB REALLY NOT ENOUGH for student ? How much GB left after all the build-in apps ???

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haha only if youre so confident that u will only use it for real simple stuff like documents or movies, i did survive with 128gb throughout my college life (of course with external hard disk for large file) otherwise as sifu said 256 is bare min, wont go wrong if you have extra cash to upgrade. btw a clean mac should give you around 110gb free space

QUOTE(Hilarion @ Apr 13 2019, 03:05 PM)
Hey, I'm letting go my rMBA 2018 (Model) with 250GB for an attractive price - upgrading to the Pro as I feel the MBA does not have enough power for my work.

My MBA always struggles with heavy Powerpoint slides, need a Pro to manage the power lol.
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dont think its mba power problem if youre referring solely to powerpoint, microsoft office never really run well and smooth on mac regardless of air or pro from my own experience
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But If buy space grey , I will feel dull after see & use for long time . But silver still the classic colour right . Agree ? wink.gif
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space grey does look dull for me after some time, silver color on new gen macbooks (2016 above) are actually more bright and sharp, its classical but feel boring sometime

nonetheless both are elegant in their own way.
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Hi , do u suggest to buy from Apple online store ? Since have student price ? Isn’t safe if nobody to sign in that particular day , and when will they send to if I do not manage to sign the parcel ? What kind of packaging will they package the MacBook ?

Btw what does it mean : delivers 18/4/2019 . Isn’t me an will arrive at that day to my doorstep ?
Will it delay tho ? Thank you wink.gif
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Seems like this Macbook Air is not well received. Been trying to get rid of mine for over a month, still no takers lol.

Should've gotten the Pro instead of the Air from the start.
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Seems like this Macbook Air is not well received. Been trying to get rid of mine for over a month, still no takers lol.

Should've gotten the Pro instead of the Air from the start.
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Certainly, the processor makes a huge difference on the capability. Air is not here or there. The processor is just slightly better than 12-inch one.
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QUOTE(Ryanang @ Apr 14 2019, 04:46 PM)
Hi , do u suggest to buy from Apple online store ? Since have student price ? Isn’t safe if nobody to sign in that particular day , and when will they send to if I do not manage to sign the parcel ? What kind of packaging will they package the MacBook ?

Btw what does it mean : delivers 18/4/2019 . Isn’t me an will arrive at that day to my doorstep ?
Will it delay tho ? Thank you wink.gif
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Apple delivery estimates are usually fairly accurate, and sometimes even earlier than the estimate. The tracking is good though, and usually a more premium experience than the typical local shipping - some can even make arrangements on timing etc. Depends on the shipping company - which usually depends on where it’s shipped from.

The MacBooks usually come in their box, which comes in another protective box. Quite nifty.
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Certainly, the processor makes a huge difference on the capability. Air is not here or there. The processor is just slightly better than 12-inch one.
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Hi sifus, I wonder why my newly bought MacBook Air 2018 will have fan issue which quite loudly suddenly when I using it. But I didnt run very heavy task. LOL. Isn’t possible that I bought a defect product ?? And also the Mac sometimes is not responsive when I press the touch of button to switch it on . Lol !!!
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Hi sifus, I wonder why my newly bought MacBook Air 2018 will have fan issue which quite loudly suddenly when I using it. But I didnt run very heavy task. LOL. Isn’t possible that I bought a defect product ?? And also the Mac sometimes is not responsive when I press the touch of button to switch it on . Lol !!!
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check on utility which app that causing it to run. mine is onedrive. therefore, i disable it from run.
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First time macbook air user here.. wanted to use my harddisk at the macbook air.. but I read that we need to format the harddisk into exFat to be able to use with Mac OS? My question is that.. if I format it into exFat.. can I still use the harddisk on windows?
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First time macbook air user here.. wanted to use my harddisk at the macbook air.. but I read that we need to format the harddisk into exFat to be able to use with Mac OS? My question is that.. if I format it into exFat.. can I still use the harddisk on windows?
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Hi sifus, I wonder why my newly bought MacBook Air 2018 will have fan issue which quite loudly suddenly when I using it. But I didnt run very heavy task. LOL. Isn’t possible that I bought a defect product ?? And also the Mac sometimes is not responsive when I press the touch of button to switch it on . Lol !!!
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i was having the same problem before accidnetly set to performance mode and the CPU mhz stay above 1.6GHZ all the time, causing the heat generated and high fan noise

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It's 2019 and let's be honest, with so many windows options out there do you think the 2018 macbook air is worth the asking price of RM5800?

Is the Mac OS really that much better?

For those who bought it, do you like it? Love it? Regret it?
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QUOTE(cucumber @ Jun 2 2019, 06:35 PM)
It's 2019 and let's be honest, with so many windows options out there do you think the 2018 macbook air is worth the asking price of RM5800?

Is the Mac OS really that much better?

For those who bought it, do you like it? Love it? Regret it?
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QUOTE(cucumber @ Jun 2 2019, 06:35 PM)
It's 2019 and let's be honest, with so many windows options out there do you think the 2018 macbook air is worth the asking price of RM5800?

Is the Mac OS really that much better?

For those who bought it, do you like it? Love it? Regret it?
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my feedback on macbook pro
1. Using windows since day 1. Take a long decision when move to macbook. Price is more expensive than normal laptop

After using for more than 7 month
1. Still love it. no regret
2. No more nightmare on windows update & virus
3. No issue on app compatibility. Worse case run on vmware fusion as windows VM.So far only 1app (MS visio)
4. Battery life is better. Last longer than windows
5. USB C is better. Moving all my hardware to USB C
6. macOS much better than Windows OS. Seldom or almost near zero of hang experience
7. Performance is much better even low spec compare to powerful windows.
8. Still able to play my games such as cities skyline & total war: 3 kingdom on mac.
9. Fast boot

As conclusion, it is not hardware matter most. It 's the MacOS experience. It is far more greater than Windows.

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MacBook Pro is a better option.
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Thanks. I understand that the MBP is more powerful. Several reasons that made me lean towards the MBA
- better battery life
- not as hot & probably not as noisy as MBP
- slightly lighter (not a big deal) but I do like the wedge design
- dislike the touch bar
- cheaper

I'm not going to use it as my main machine as I have a desktop... will be using it as a portable device mainly for word & excel spreadsheets, you know... cafes, office & on my bed/couch.
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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Jun 2 2019, 08:27 PM)
my feedback on macbook pro
1. Using windows since day 1. Take a long decision when move to macbook. Price is more expensive than normal laptop

After using for more than 7 month
1. Still love it. no regret
2. No more nightmare on windows update & virus
3. No issue on app compatibility. Worse case run on vmware fusion as windows VM.So far only 1app (MS visio)
4. Battery life is better. Last longer than windows
5. USB C is better. Moving all my hardware to USB C
6. macOS much better than Windows OS. Seldom or almost near zero of hang experience
7. Performance is much better even low spec compare to powerful windows.
8. Still able to play my games such as cities skyline & total war: 3 kingdom on mac.
9. Fast boot

As conclusion, it is not hardware matter most. It 's the MacOS experience. It is far more greater than Windows.
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Awesome. Thanks for your feedback. I do agree windows update is annoying, but i haven't gotten any virus issues in windows 10. Windows 10 has been quite reliable for me for the past few years.

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Awesome. Thanks for your feedback. I do agree windows update is annoying, but i haven't gotten any virus issues in windows 10. Windows 10 has been quite reliable for me for the past few years.
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QUOTE(markgrynko1472 @ Jun 4 2019, 02:41 PM)
Definitely agree with this. When I was researching 2 months ago Pros & cons from both MBA 2018 and MBA 2019, there are far more complaints on the MBP... and I don't want that. Like you, I just uttilize it for light computer use, so it tisn't that much of a problem. I got friend who bought MBPs but preferred the 2017 one than the 2018.

My MBA 2018 has been with me for 2 months now and I'm pretty happy with it.
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and dun forget, expensive flexgate only affect MBP especially 2016/17 touchbar, but not with MBA.
So far, my fan doesnt run at all unless i bootup with PD. the CPU is more than enuf to run, unless u going for video editing.
normal script coding or websurfing, cpu of MBA is more than enuf

If unlucky to kena flexgate, changing display will cost u as much as USD1000/RM4k.


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QUOTE(markgrynko1472 @ Jun 4 2019, 02:41 PM)
Definitely agree with this. When I was researching 2 months ago Pros & cons from both MBA 2018 and MBA 2019, there are far more complaints on the MBP... and I don't want that. Like you, I just uttilize it for light computer use, so it tisn't that much of a problem. I got friend who bought MBPs but preferred the 2017 one than the 2018.

My MBA 2018 has been with me for 2 months now and I'm pretty happy with it.
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QUOTE(ychwang @ Jun 7 2019, 01:49 AM)
and dun forget, expensive flexgate only affect MBP especially 2016/17 touchbar, but not with MBA.
So far, my fan doesnt run at all unless i bootup with PD. the CPU is more than enuf to run, unless u going for video editing.
normal script coding or websurfing, cpu of MBA is more than enuf

If unlucky to kena flexgate, changing display will cost u as much as USD1000/RM4k.
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No matter keyboard or flexgate issues, apple will actually repair for free, I dun think it is anything that needs to pay from own pocket.

I own the 2017 MacBook Pro. So far no keyboard or flexgate issues yet. But my MacBook Pro battery got swollen which it can not close completely. I sent in my MacBook Pro to Apple, they just replace the TOP cover and battery for free. This is the reason why I choose only Apple product despite the premium paid for. My warranty is already over since my MacBook Pro is 2 years old.

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If becos of this reason, therefore choosing a MacBook Air I dun think it is a wise thing to do. After all, the price difference between the two are not significantly more by a lot a lot. MBP has better hardware and display, it can certainly allow one to use the machine for a lot longer period of time.
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My mid 2012 13" MBA's battery is at terrible state now (just replaced it approx 1.5 year ago - done by outside shop).

Currently using MacOS Mojave and I can't really stand the loud noise from using Safari with lots of tabs opened. Not sure if it's OS issue or it's time to upgrade my MBA.

Anyway, I tried to "research" the MBA vs MPP vs MB a few days ago, and it's really expensive (cheapest model being 13" MBA at RM4,142, which I'm not sure when it was released) compared to the RM3.6k I forked out years ago.

Can anyone give me some suggestions? I'm just a light user with no need for photoshop, etc. I was thinking to see if the new MacOS Catalina will get rid of the loud noise issue and wait to see if Apple is going to release a new MBA / MBP / MB with "new" keyboard that has no issue.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jun 8 2019, 08:09 PM)
My mid 2012 13" MBA's battery is at terrible state now (just replaced it approx 1.5 year ago - done by outside shop).

Currently using MacOS Mojave and I can't really stand the loud noise from using Safari with lots of tabs opened. Not sure if it's OS issue or it's time to upgrade my MBA.

Anyway, I tried to "research" the MBA vs MPP vs MB a few days ago, and it's really expensive (cheapest model being 13" MBA at RM4,142, which I'm not sure when it was released) compared to the RM3.6k I forked out years ago.

Can anyone give me some suggestions? I'm just a light user with no need for photoshop, etc. I was thinking to see if the new MacOS Catalina will get rid of the loud noise issue and wait to see if Apple is going to release a new MBA / MBP / MB with "new" keyboard that has no issue.
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MacBook Pro is at its lowest for 2015 models. That time the cheapest model is almost same price as iphone.
Every since 2016 Apple redesigned the MacBook Pro, price has increased significantly.

Apple has changed the materials for keyboards of 2019 MacBook Pro, by rite it should solve or reduce the chance for the known keyboard problem. Dun expect any major changes until the next MacBook Pro redesign which I think it will still take at least 2 to 3 years before Apple will do so. MacBook is still very little in terms of sales figures for Apple overall sales.

MacBook Pro should still be a good choice for u. The processor in MacBook Pro will allow u to use it for long time to come, ur 2012 can be used for so Long, u should understand why it is a good choice.

no point going for MacBook Air.
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MacBook Pro is at its lowest for 2015 models. That time the cheapest model is almost same price as iphone.
Every since 2016 Apple redesigned the MacBook Pro, price has increased significantly.

Apple has changed the materials for keyboards of 2019 MacBook Pro, by rite it should solve or reduce the chance for the known keyboard problem. Dun expect any major changes until the next MacBook Pro redesign which I think it will still take at least 2 to 3 years before Apple will do so. MacBook is still very little in terms of sales figures for Apple overall sales.

MacBook Pro should still be a good choice for u. The processor in MacBook Pro will allow u to use it for long time to come, ur 2012 can be used for so Long, u should understand why it is a good choice.

no point going for MacBook Air.
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If I'm not mistaken, the new keyboard you mentioned earlier for 2019 MBP is only for touch bar model but I don't plan to get the one with touch bar (I feel that is just a gimmick).

With that being said, is 2018 MBP still a viable choice? I'm contemplating to get my battery replacement from authorised service provider, if it's not too costly where I feel it's being to get a new laptop instead. If I remember correctly, I was charged somewhere around 500-800 previously for the battery replacement.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jun 9 2019, 11:03 AM)
If I'm not mistaken, the new keyboard you mentioned earlier for 2019 MBP is only for touch bar model but I don't plan to get the one with touch bar (I feel that is just a gimmick).

With that being said, is 2018 MBP still a viable choice? I'm contemplating to get my battery replacement from authorised service provider, if it's not too costly where I feel it's being to get a new laptop instead. If I remember correctly, I was charged somewhere around 500-800 previously for the battery replacement.
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Bear in mind non-touch bar MBP hasn’t been updated since 2017 - so you’re looking at the 2017 version.

Having said that, I would agree the Touch Bar is pretty much useless and a gimmick.
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QUOTE(drunkn7 @ Jun 9 2019, 11:13 AM)
Bear in mind non-touch bar MBP hasn’t been updated since 2017 - so you’re looking at the 2017 version.

Having said that, I would agree the Touch Bar is pretty much useless and a gimmick.
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oh ... so the current non-touch bar 2017 MBP still ship with the "faulty previous gen keyboard" right?

Would 2018 MBA a better choice then if compared to 2017 MBP? :S

I'm pretty much leaning to get a battery replacement now.

P/s: I was quoted RM550 for the battery and it comes with 6 months warranty only. I’m in a dilemma now. I think I need at least 2 USB ports for my wireless mouse and external hdd.

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jun 9 2019, 11:03 AM)
If I'm not mistaken, the new keyboard you mentioned earlier for 2019 MBP is only for touch bar model but I don't plan to get the one with touch bar (I feel that is just a gimmick).

With that being said, is 2018 MBP still a viable choice? I'm contemplating to get my battery replacement from authorised service provider, if it's not too costly where I feel it's being to get a new laptop instead. If I remember correctly, I was charged somewhere around 500-800 previously for the battery replacement.
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the model u mentioned is last updated in year 2017. there is a high possiblikity that it will not upgrade in future too since there is a MacBook Air at that price range too.

Touch bar is not particularly useful but no point to get non-touchbar model since the processor is already outdated.

If want to get battery replacement, do it at Apple service centre at not outside ah beng shops for peace of mind.
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Finally retrieved back my MBP TB 2017.

They replaced both the battery and top cover so that the keyboard is brand new too. previously there were some stains on it.

Now my 2 years old MBP looks brand new again. 😜

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 10 2019, 07:41 PM)
Finally retrieved back my MBP TB 2017.

They replaced both the battery and top cover so that the keyboard is brand new too. previously there were some stains on it.

Now my 2 years old MBP looks brand new again. 😜

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Is this the new 2019 keyboard or 3rd gen keyboard?
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Is this the new 2019 keyboard or 3rd gen keyboard?
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This one then I dun know Liao. haha. I had used my 2017 keyboard for 2 years. No problem so far. now with a new keyboard, should have no prob to last even longer hahaha.
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Good thing is that the replacement is totally free and it comes with 90 days warranty for the replacement parts also.
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Hi guys, need some advise, my mba2017 still under warranty, possible for me to replace the ssd without void the warranty?

if possible, which kind of ssd can I use? I saw number of them using an adapter than connect with a normal m.2 ssd? can I use the cheap ssd like ADATA?

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Hi guys, need some advise, my mba2017 still under warranty, possible for me to replace the ssd without void the warranty?

if possible, which kind of ssd can I use? I saw number of them using an adapter than connect with a normal m.2 ssd? can I use the cheap ssd like ADATA?

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Again becos space not enough rite? Must be 256gb or below storage option u own.

U have AppleCare? Else how come u still have warranty.

Replacing the internal ssd for macbook is not an easy task.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 11 2019, 08:37 AM)
Again becos space not enough rite? Must be 256gb or below storage option u own.

U have AppleCare? Else how come u still have warranty.

Replacing the internal ssd for macbook is not an easy task.
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just bought few months ago, I see cheap cheap 3k+, some more I new to Mac OS, so don't invest so much incase I don't use to it.

I have the 128gb cry.gif version
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just bought few months ago, I see cheap cheap 3k+, some more I new to Mac OS, so don't invest so much incase I don't use to it.

I have the 128gb  cry.gif version
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unfortunately, this is what I always tell myself - “pay cheap and buy twice”. I will not go for price only but make it can meet the needs especially future needs. this is why there are people who recommends others to get 128gb or 256gb storage options of macbook, I always against it. Especially 128gb one, it is always not ‘usable’ in long run, even an iPhone has larger storage than it (most ppl are going for 256gb option unless XR 128gb)

I think there are third party ssd u can buy to upgrade. price wise I think it is not very cheap also. do it yourself for the replacement or get third party shop to do then depends which option is more comfortable for u.

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 11 2019, 08:55 AM)
unfortunately, this is what I always tell myself - “pay cheap and buy twice”. I will not go for price only but make it can meet the needs especially future needs. this is why there are people who recommends others to get 128gb or 256gb storage options of macbook, I always against it. Especially 128gb one, it is always not ‘usable’ in long run, even an iPhone has larger storage than it (most ppl are going for 256gb option unless XR 128gb)

I think there are third party ssd u can buy to upgrade. price wise I think it is not very cheap also. do it yourself for the replacement or get third party shop to do then depends which option is more comfortable for u.
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Hi, thank you for your advise and I made my decision to purchase mba2017 128gb as the reason already state, I not a professional of doing programming nor graphic designer but just as normal use, I was thinking to upgrade the storage is I can save more song or movie biggrin.gif

the ssd for 512gb is about 300 for ADATA and the adapter is about 50, my question is possible the ADATA or something third party SSD put in can work and without void the warranty, haha.
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Hi, thank you for your advise and I made my decision to purchase mba2017 128gb as the reason already state, I not a professional of doing programming nor graphic designer but just as normal use, I was thinking to upgrade the storage is I can save more song or movie  biggrin.gif

the ssd for 512gb is about 300 for ADATA and the adapter is about 50, my question is possible the ADATA or something third party SSD put in can work and without void the warranty, haha.
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if u happened to any modification to ur macbook, the warranty will be voided.

technically, if apple sees that you had 'touched' your macbook before, they will not 'touch' it also.
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my feedback on macbook pro
1. Using windows since day 1. Take a long decision when move to macbook. Price is more expensive than normal laptop

After using for more than 7 month
1. Still love it. no regret
2. No more nightmare on windows update & virus
3. No issue on app compatibility. Worse case run on vmware fusion as windows VM.So far only 1app (MS visio)
4. Battery life is better. Last longer than windows
5. USB C is better. Moving all my hardware to USB C
6. macOS much better than Windows OS. Seldom or almost near zero of hang experience
7. Performance is much better even low spec compare to powerful windows.
8. Still able to play my games such as cities skyline & total war: 3 kingdom on mac.
9. Fast boot

As conclusion, it is not hardware matter most. It 's the MacOS experience. It is far more greater than Windows.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 11 2019, 10:17 AM)
if u happened to any modification to ur macbook, the warranty will be voided.

technically, if apple sees that you had 'touched' your macbook before, they will not 'touch' it also.
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Wait, they replaced battery and top cover for free even when the warranty is already over?? Really??
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Of course. GPGT. why so surprised? this is why I only buy Apple products because if it is genuine problem that is not caused by users, even out of warranty, it will still be covered. Obviously the swollen battery problem cannot be caused by users. In fact, if ur macbook or iPhone got swollen battery u should be happy, becos I am sure Apple will replace it for free no matter how old is it. I dun think they will take the risk to let u to continue to use the devices and have the potential explosion case later which will damage their reputation. For macbook, they will replace parts, if iphone, I am sure they will replace it with a refurbished iphone.

Good example is the keyboard problem that is known to affect a small number of users and not all, but Apple has setup repair programme to cover it for free and best part is normally this kind of programme covers up to 4 to 5 years upon purchase date even.

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Hey guys,which would you’ll recommend the MacBook Air 2017 (Rm3.2k) or the MacBook Air 2018 (Rm4.4k)?

Converting from Windows to Mac.

Need a new laptop and I only use it mainly for the following purposes:

1.Social Media:Instagram,Facebook
2.E-Mails
3.Surfing the net for articles
4.Microsoft Office for work purposes:drafting contracts and spreadsheets

Is the additional Rm1.2k for the Retina Display worth the money?
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Hey guys,which would you’ll recommend the MacBook Air 2017 (Rm3.2k) or the MacBook Air 2018 (Rm4.4k)?

Converting from Windows to Mac.

Need a new laptop and I only use it mainly for the following purposes:

1.Social Media:Instagram,Facebook
2.E-Mails
3.Surfing the net for articles
4.Microsoft Office for work purposes:drafting contracts and spreadsheets

Is the additional Rm1.2k for the Retina Display worth the money?
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I think it's best to go to the store & see for yourself... the old air's screen + bezel looks pretty bad & outdated imo. But hey if you dont mind it why not?

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I think it's best to go to the store & see for yourself... the old air's screen + bezel looks pretty bad & outdated imo. But hey if you dont mind it why not?
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Ahhh okay will do that later today then 😀

I don’t mind that it is outdated as I was never one that chases technology & from what I read on the Internet this model should be able to obtain MacOs updates for another at least another 2-3 years.

The standard display isn’t that bad actually based on what I saw on YouTube.

As this is my first venture into using a Mac I also don’t want to be spending so much in case I don’t like it.
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Ahhh okay will do that later today then 😀

I don’t mind that it is outdated as I was never one that chases technology & from what I read on the Internet this model should be able to obtain MacOs updates for another at least another 2-3 years.

The standard  display isn’t that bad actually based on what I saw on YouTube.

As this is my first venture into using a Mac I also don’t want to be spending so much in case I don’t like it.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 11 2019, 08:55 AM)
unfortunately, this is what I always tell myself - “pay cheap and buy twice”. I will not go for price only but make it can meet the needs especially future needs. this is why there are people who recommends others to get 128gb or 256gb storage options of macbook, I always against it. Especially 128gb one, it is always not ‘usable’ in long run, even an iPhone has larger storage than it (most ppl are going for 256gb option unless XR 128gb)

I think there are third party ssd u can buy to upgrade. price wise I think it is not very cheap also. do it yourself for the replacement or get third party shop to do then depends which option is more comfortable for u.
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How about Ram? My MBA can’t go past apple logo startup screen now and I think it’s due to my battery so probably it’s time for an upgrade

Besides, how many usb c ports are available for 13” mbp? 2 or 4? My friend told me 13” only has 2 but the website suggests otherwise?

Also, any recommendation for usb C to usb A hub? I don’t need VGA or SD cards, only 2 usb A for mouse and external HDD

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QUOTE(frapps @ Jun 19 2019, 08:00 PM)
Hey guys,which would you’ll recommend the MacBook Air 2017 (Rm3.2k) or the MacBook Air 2018 (Rm4.4k)?

Converting from Windows to Mac.

Need a new laptop and I only use it mainly for the following purposes:

1.Social Media:Instagram,Facebook
2.E-Mails
3.Surfing the net for articles
4.Microsoft Office for work purposes:drafting contracts and spreadsheets

Is the additional Rm1.2k for the Retina Display worth the money?
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Apple discovers an issue with some MacBook Air 2018 units, repairs them discreetly

you guys got this problem yet?
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QUOTE(frapps @ Jun 19 2019, 08:00 PM)
Hey guys,which would you’ll recommend the MacBook Air 2017 (Rm3.2k) or the MacBook Air 2018 (Rm4.4k)?

Converting from Windows to Mac.

Need a new laptop and I only use it mainly for the following purposes:

1.Social Media:Instagram,Facebook
2.E-Mails
3.Surfing the net for articles
4.Microsoft Office for work purposes:drafting contracts and spreadsheets

Is the additional Rm1.2k for the Retina Display worth the money?
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I just own a MBA 2017, actually I think is worth to invest another 1.2k to get new MBA, especially the phone you using now is in HD u will notice MBA2017 got blur on the text, although it not that bad.

if you don't, actually ok as well, since the requirement by you is not that high, I use it for web programming and photoshop, it work fine btw other then the screen not "sharp" but still acceptable by me.

oh... 1 more thing, I got USB port for that laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jun 25 2019, 12:30 AM)
Besides, how many usb c ports are available for 13” mbp? 2 or 4? My friend told me 13” only has 2 but the website suggests otherwise?
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MBA: 2 USB-C ports
MBP 13" without touchbar: 2 ports
MBP 13" with touchbar: 4 ports

Quite clearly shown on the website actually
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I just own a MBA 2017, actually I think is worth to invest another 1.2k to get new MBA, especially the phone you using now is in HD u will notice MBA2017 got blur on the text, although it not that bad.

if you don't, actually ok as well, since the requirement by you is not that high, I use it for web programming and photoshop, it work fine btw other then the screen not "sharp" but still acceptable by me.

oh... 1 more thing, I got USB port for that  laugh.gif
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Already said before no point to go for non-retina display stuff at this age.

I think u might have regretted for not going for 256gb/512gb storage option at least as well.

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 1 2019, 08:57 PM)
Already said before no point to go for non-retina display stuff at this age.

I think u might have regretted for not going for 256gb/512gb storage option at least as well.
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agree with the point to go for retina at the this age.
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yup. Becos once u have used Retina display stuff even for phone. U will be hard to accept display that is at lower quality.

This is the reason why I will never buy any windows laptops becos they are totally not comparable to MacBook Pro.
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yup. Becos once u have used Retina display stuff even for phone. U will be hard to accept display that is at lower quality.

This is the reason why I will never buy any windows laptops becos they are totally not comparable to MacBook Pro.
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If you're talking about screens there are many Windows laptops that have awesome displays these days... Thinkpad x1 carbon's QWHD HDR comes to mind, Matebook X Pro's display pretty much destroys the MBP with higher resolution, thin bezels & touch screen. It's not 2012 anymore. You are right they are not comparable because some of these Windows laptops have long surpass the MBP in terms of hardware.
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If you're talking about screens there are many Windows laptops that have awesome displays these days... Thinkpad x1 carbon's QWHD HDR comes to mind, Matebook X Pro's display pretty much destroys the MBP with higher resolution, thin bezels & touch screen. It's not 2012 anymore. You are right they are not comparable because some of these Windows laptops have long surpass the MBP in terms of hardware.
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for me, it is easy actually.

i dun need to compare products around, since i have only one choice. tongue.gif
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whats the difference between sierra's light/dark mode and mojave's dark mode?

as i've tested, the folders, dock and top bar does turn black in sierra

is it that mojave's version of dark mode is more integrated between other apple software? hmm.gif
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whats the difference between sierra's light/dark mode and mojave's dark mode?

as i've tested, the folders, dock and top bar does turn black in sierra

is it that mojave's version of dark mode is more integrated between other apple software? hmm.gif
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high sierra only makes the menu bar and dock colours darker and that's all. other third-party apps may not even support this mode.

In High Sierra you could choose to make the colour of the menu bar and Dock darker, but that’s all. Some third-party apps don’t even support the mode,their menu may still be bright even the dark mode is on.

In Mojave, it is system-wide darker.
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high sierra only makes the menu bar and dock colours darker and that's all. other third-party apps may not even support this mode.

In High Sierra you could choose to make the colour of the menu bar and Dock darker, but that’s all. Some third-party apps don’t even support the mode,their menu may still be bright even the dark mode is on.

In Mojave, it is system-wide darker.
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hi

i see..

my company will be providing me the mbp 13" TB but then its mostly a 2017 model instead (passed on by another user, who used it slightly past 1 year.. shakehead.gif )

luckily he took very good care of it. the body is still in good condition



assuming the mbp 13" was bought around April 2018

what was the OS that was shipped with?

Sierra or high sierra? laugh.gif

hopefully the IT guy helps me update it to mojave before handing it to me next week. tongue.gif tongue.gif

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hi

i see..

my company will be providing me the mbp 13" TB but then its mostly a 2017 model instead (passed on by another user, who used it slightly past 1 year.. shakehead.gif )

luckily he took very good care of it. the body is still in good condition
assuming the mbp 13" was bought around April 2018

what was the OS that was shipped with?

Sierra or high sierra? laugh.gif

hopefully the IT guy helps me update it to mojave before handing it to me next week. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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High Sierra if it has not yet to be upgraded.
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High Sierra if it has not yet to be upgraded.
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okay, at least HS is quite new with some dark features

thanks for the input nod.gif
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Looks like Apple is finally going to change the keyboard design starting with the MBA https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/4/20682079/...020-macbook-pro
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Looks like Apple is finally going to change the keyboard design starting with the MBA https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/4/20682079/...020-macbook-pro
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Looks like Apple is finally going to change the keyboard design starting with the MBA https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/4/20682079/...020-macbook-pro
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i have no issue with the current keyboard seriously. it is better than the previous one.
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pls recommend any usb c to various ports for macbook air

the various ports im looking for are usb-A, hdmi and vga, others is optional

thanks
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Apple just updated the MBA with true tone display & lowered the price ... https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/07/macb...-school-season/
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Why am I seeing a different price at their website? Its rm4699 & rm5499.

Kinda sucks for those who just bought this at full retail price.
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Now I'm wondering if the rumor about the scissor style keyboard is going to be true.
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QUOTE(cucumber @ Jul 10 2019, 08:05 AM)
Why am I seeing a different price at their website? Its rm4699 & rm5499.

Kinda sucks for those who just bought this at full retail price.
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The one he posted is Education pricing.
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Now I'm wondering if the rumor about the scissor style keyboard is going to be true.
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Even yes, it may appear only on the rumoured 16-inch MacBook Pro first.
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The one he posted is Education pricing.
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That is not educational pricing. It’s the new revised pricing.
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https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/07/09/apple...malaysia-price/

Revised pricing is 4699 and 5499 accordingly.

Besides, I know bro westlife, he usually posts Edu pricing for iPads and Macs smile.gif
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That is not educational pricing. It’s the new revised pricing.
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That is not educational pricing. It’s the new revised pricing.
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QUOTE(attw @ Jul 10 2019, 09:08 AM)
https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/07/09/apple...malaysia-price/

Revised pricing is 4699 and 5499 accordingly.

Besides, I know bro westlife, he usually posts Edu pricing for iPads and Macs smile.gif
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Yes you are correct. My apologies
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Yes you are correct. My apologies
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 10 2019, 09:17 AM)
yes guys. paise. it is revised education pricing.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 10 2019, 08:40 AM)
Even yes, it may appear only on the rumoured 16-inch MacBook Pro first.
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it will be introduced for the new Macbook Air 2019 and later on for Macbook Pro 16" this September.


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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Jul 10 2019, 11:10 AM)
nope.

it will be introduced for the new Macbook Air 2019 and later on for Macbook Pro 16" this September.
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macbook air has just refreshed less than 24-hours ago.

it is impossible for any new update this year. tongue.gif

macbook pro 16" is possible to have it.
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How likely do you guys think it is for Apple to release another version of this in 3 months? They've already named this the Macbook Air 2019. And I also wonder how they're going to fit the scissor style keyboard on the current chassis.
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QUOTE(cucumber @ Jul 10 2019, 12:41 PM)
How likely do you guys think it is for Apple to release another version of this in 3 months? They've already named this the Macbook Air 2019. And I also wonder how they're going to fit the scissor style keyboard on the current chassis.
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Unlikely u see any changes on MacBook Air or MacBook Pro 13-inch and 15-inch this year including the rumoured keyboard. These laptops had all just updated. It is not Apple style to upgrade the same products two times in a year.

If the new keyboard is really going to happen, it will only to be on the new rumoured 16-inch MacBook Pro.

This can be certain.

For 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Pro is possible to have new keyboard next year given that the current design will be 4 years by then which it is a common duration for MacBook Pro design to change..

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QUOTE(attw @ Jul 10 2019, 09:08 AM)
https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/07/09/apple...malaysia-price/

Revised pricing is 4699 and 5499 accordingly.

Besides, I know bro westlife, he usually posts Edu pricing for iPads and Macs smile.gif
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teringin nak get

but how to qualify for educational pricing, gf studying part time degree tongue.gif
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teringin nak get

but how to qualify for educational pricing, gf studying part time degree tongue.gif
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The base model of MacBook Pro is more worth it than the updated MacBook Air despite the lowered pricing. MacBook Pro based model now have Touch ID and Touch Bar with no price changed and updated with quad core latest gen processor.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 11 2019, 12:35 AM)
The base model of MacBook Pro is more worth it than the updated MacBook Air despite the lowered pricing. MacBook Pro based model now have Touch ID and Touch Bar with no price changed and updated with quad core latest gen processor.
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1.4ghz quad core is enough for photo & video editing?

Using photoshop & final cut pro X?
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1.4ghz quad core is enough for photo & video editing?

Using photoshop & final cut pro X?
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Enough. But enough is relative here depends on what you're comparing to. If the Air can edit 4k video with a y (basically rebranded m3) processor... the base Pro should be even better https://youtu.be/1GnKLWqCCuo

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1.4ghz quad core is enough for photo & video editing?

Using photoshop & final cut pro X?
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can. as you can see that it is quad core now instead of dual core previously. and it is capable of turbo boost to 3.9Ghz also.

confirmed it is more value for money comparing to macbook air.

seriously, i find it a bit no point to have two line-up. the base model of macbook pro is a lot more attractive even it is slightly more expensive than the air.

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No worries bro, I also kena tipu few times already laugh.gif
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 12 2019, 05:45 AM)
the base macbook pro is awesome. it makes my previous macbook tb 2017 purchase expensive.  tongue.gif


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Hi, I'm curious if the new Retina MacBook Air Backlight suffers from PWM Flickering (see video if you're not sure what it refers to)? It was pretty bad on the older MacBook Airs. My eyes would get defocused after using it for 30 minutes in dim lighting.

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1.4ghz quad core is enough for photo & video editing?

Using photoshop & final cut pro X?
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Hi, I'm curious if the new Retina MacBook Air Backlight suffers from PWM Flickering (see video if you're not sure what it refers to)? It was pretty bad on the older MacBook Airs. My eyes would get defocused after using it for 30 minutes in dim lighting.
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the base macbook pro is awesome. it makes my previous macbook tb 2017 purchase expensive.  tongue.gif


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too bad. still having my 2017 MBP TB. cannot change. haha. it is going to be used another 3 years or more.
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very soon.

too bad. still having my 2017 MBP TB. cannot change. haha. it is going to be used another 3 years or more.
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Yeah, I wished we still had that RM3000 tax relief specifically for computers every 3 years like we used to have. That would have forced me to upgrade my Macbook Air! laugh.gif
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very soon.

too bad. still having my 2017 MBP TB. cannot change. haha. it is going to be used another 3 years or more.
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256GB SSD + 16GB RAM would probably costs around RM7k for entry MBP?
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yup, close to it.

but if u are not doing photo or video editing or not running VMs etc. actually 8gb is sufficient.

i would go for 512gb + 8gb instead if comparing to 256gb + 16gb ram.

my current macbook pro tb 2017 is 512gb + 16gb ram but if given a choice again, i would opt for the option above instead.
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2019 macbook pro base model is quite impressive in terms of performance.

multi-cores a lot better than my 2017 MBP TB.

worst part is my 2017 MBP TB is actually slower than 2017 MBP non-TB. sad.gif

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 13 2019, 06:56 PM)
yup, close to it.

but if u are not doing photo or video editing or not running VMs etc. actually 8gb is sufficient.

i would go for 512gb + 8gb instead if comparing to 256gb + 16gb ram.

my current macbook pro tb 2017 is 512gb + 16gb ram but if given a choice again, i would opt for the option above instead.
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I still have 60GB of free space from my 128GB SSD tongue.gif so 512GB would be overkilled.

256GB SSD + 16GB RAM is just to ensure "future proof"

What do you think?

p/s: I'm not doing any video/photo editing now. Just casual usage - web browsing, youtube, etc.
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256GB SSD + 16GB RAM would probably costs around RM7k for entry MBP?
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 13 2019, 06:56 PM)
yup, close to it.

but if u are not doing photo or video editing or not running VMs etc. actually 8gb is sufficient.

i would go for 512gb + 8gb instead if comparing to 256gb + 16gb ram.

my current macbook pro tb 2017 is 512gb + 16gb ram but if given a choice again, i would opt for the option above instead.
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You guys got out of the education software package and extend the Apple care?
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 13 2019, 07:32 PM)
I still have 60GB of free space from my 128GB SSD  tongue.gif  so 512GB would be overkilled.

256GB SSD + 16GB RAM is just to ensure "future proof"

What do you think?

p/s: I'm not doing any video/photo editing now. Just casual usage - web browsing, youtube, etc.
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256GB is bare minimum so if u are really on light usage it is still ok. It is also the bare minimum size if one needs to use bootcamp on their MAC.

16gb is certainly future proof no harm to have it the same for storage size the bigger the better.

https://www.lowyat.net/2019/189822/apple-ma...oldered-in-ssd/

After all, this year MacBook Pro has soldered ssd so same as ram, u cannot upgrade in future like previous MacBook Pro even if u want, so getting the right size at first is more crucial now.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 14 2019, 09:13 AM)
256GB is bare minimum so if u are really on light usage it is still ok. It is also the bare minimum size if one needs to use bootcamp on their MAC.

16gb is certainly future proof no harm to have it the same for storage size the bigger the better.

https://www.lowyat.net/2019/189822/apple-ma...oldered-in-ssd/

After all, this year MacBook Pro has soldered ssd so same as ram, u cannot upgrade in future like previous MacBook Pro even if u want, so getting the right size at first is more crucial now.
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I'm running Bootcamp with my 256GB MacBook Air too and I agree, it's OK for light usage but if you need more apps to run on Windows then the partition needs to be bigger as Windows programs and apps typically use more space.

No issue on RAM though, my 4GB Air is still flying - but I'm typically a light user.

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You guys got out of the education software package and extend the Apple care?
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 14 2019, 09:13 AM)
256GB is bare minimum so if u are really on light usage it is still ok. It is also the bare minimum size if one needs to use bootcamp on their MAC.

16gb is certainly future proof no harm to have it the same for storage size the bigger the better.

https://www.lowyat.net/2019/189822/apple-ma...oldered-in-ssd/

After all, this year MacBook Pro has soldered ssd so same as ram, u cannot upgrade in future like previous MacBook Pro even if u want, so getting the right size at first is more crucial now.
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that's what I thought too ..

now just have to wait for more news from ifixit teardown and full review from youtubers
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I'm running Bootcamp with my 256GB MacBook Air too and I agree, it's OK for light usage but  if you need more apps to run on Windows then the partition needs to be bigger as Windows programs and apps typically use more space.

No issue on RAM though, my 4GB Air is still flying - but I'm typically a light user.
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that's what I thought too ..

now just have to wait for more news from ifixit teardown and full review from youtubers
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all the reviews were already on the web. ifix teardown was already done few days back.
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I'm running Bootcamp with my 256GB MacBook Air too and I agree, it's OK for light usage but  if you need more apps to run on Windows then the partition needs to be bigger as Windows programs and apps typically use more space.

No issue on RAM though, my 4GB Air is still flying - but I'm typically a light user.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 14 2019, 10:15 AM)
my mid 2012 MBA with 4GB RAM is suffocating nowadays when I'm browsing Safari with many tabs opened or watching videos. sad.gif
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8gb is bare min nowadays. 4gb will suffer.
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no never use those software and dun need AppleCare. 🤪
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I saw your old post when I searched for AppleCare.

QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 14 2019, 10:13 AM)
Apple care? I'm not really interested in buying it but maybe I will only buy it before the end of the first year warranty
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the macbook pro base model really has good review. in terms of CP value, it should be the best among all models.

of course one must be ok with the 2 ports. other than that, it is quite perfect value.

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8gb is bare min nowadays. 4gb will suffer.
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I think it depends on usage. Mine is still fine with 4GB, no lags or stutters. But I use it only for casual stuffs like web browsing, emails, watching movies and occasionally some work with MS Office.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 14 2019, 10:13 AM)
Apple care? I'm not really interested in buying it but maybe I will only buy it before the end of the first year warranty
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what's the difference between

buying apple care warranty on the first day you got your macbook

VS

buying apple care later when the initial warranty about to expires?

which one is good? or just the same?

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what's the difference between

buying apple care warranty on the first day you got your macbook

VS

buying apple care later when the initial warranty about to expires?

which one is good? or just the same?

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actually I have no idea, just don't want to spend the money when the warranty is still in effect
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Jul 15 2019, 11:23 AM)
what's the difference between

buying apple care warranty on the first day you got your macbook

VS

buying apple care later when the initial warranty about to expires?

which one is good? or just the same?

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if there is no discount when u buy the applecare together with macbook purchase, no difference at all if u buy it later.
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i extend warranty purchase apple care. my 2016 mbp tb got display issue early this year. If no Apple Care, i need to fork out $$$$. i took great care of my device, but shit still happened. something for you to ponder for apple care.

Apple care even extend your macbook charger warranty, not just laptop. if something wrong with the charger within warranty period, u can change it for free.

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QUOTE(firdausbhari @ Jul 17 2019, 02:54 PM)
i extend warranty purchase apple care. my 2016 mbp tb got display issue early this year. If no Apple Care, i need to fork out $$$$. i took great care of my device, but shit still happened. something for you to ponder for apple care.

Apple care even extend your macbook charger warranty, not just laptop. if something wrong with the charger within warranty period, u can change it for free.

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You are saying the charger also get to extend till 3 years warranty?
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QUOTE(firdausbhari @ Jul 17 2019, 02:54 PM)
i extend warranty purchase apple care. my 2016 mbp tb got display issue early this year. If no Apple Care, i need to fork out $$$$. i took great care of my device, but shit still happened. something for you to ponder for apple care.

Apple care even extend your macbook charger warranty, not just laptop. if something wrong with the charger within warranty period, u can change it for free.

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actually for ur care does not even need applecare also can get free repair. there is quality program set up for this.

it can qualify for up to 4 years. so for a macbook pro with no apple care even at 4th year also can get free repair.

https://support.apple.com/13-inch-macbook-p...cklight-service

for my 2017 macbook pro, my battery swell after 2 years. i dun have applecare and apple replaced the battery inclduing the top cover (keyboard) for free for me recently also.

if it is a common problem, no need to even worry there is applecare or not, becos apple will also repair for free.

this is the reason why i dun buy applecare. tongue.gif

QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 17 2019, 06:39 PM)
You are saying the charger also get to extend till 3 years warranty?
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actually for ur care does not even need applecare also can get free repair. there is quality program set up for this.

it can qualify for up to 4 years. so for a macbook pro with no apple care even at 4th year also can get free repair.

https://support.apple.com/13-inch-macbook-p...cklight-service

for my 2017 macbook pro, my battery swell after 2 years. i dun have applecare and apple replaced the battery inclduing the top cover (keyboard) for free for me recently also.

if it is a common problem, no need to even worry there is applecare or not, becos apple will also repair for free.

this is the reason why i dun buy applecare.  tongue.gif
yes, it covers accessories also.
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Here's a more fair comparison between the Air & Pro

https://youtu.be/l1mZGMC6qpA

The Pro definitely has a better performance, better value for money specs wise but dont forget, there are a lot of people out there who value more on the battery life, running cooler & quieter, physical escape key, the wedge design, the nostalgic factor of the Air brand... not everyone is using their machine to edit 8k videos for hollywood studios, so for those who are on the go a lot & just need a smooth laptop to do basic tasks, the Air is perfectly fine.
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QUOTE(cucumber @ Jul 21 2019, 05:55 PM)
Here's a more fair comparison between the Air & Pro

https://youtu.be/l1mZGMC6qpA

The Pro definitely has a better performance, better value for money specs wise but dont forget, there are a lot of people out there who value more on the battery life, running cooler & quieter, physical escape key, the wedge design, the nostalgic factor of the Air brand... not everyone is using their machine to edit 8k videos for hollywood studios, so for those who are on the go a lot & just need a smooth laptop to do basic tasks, the Air is perfectly fine.
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not really. majority of reviewers think that the 1.4Ghz macbook pro gives better value than macbook air.

if u think that macbook air has advantage over battery life (on paper yes), but based on the real-life test, it is not.

the price gap is really minimum. seriously no one should go for the macbook air.
if the previous 12-inch macbook is selling at the same price as macbook air, it is more worth it to buy comparing to macbook air since it has the maximum portability advantage. now macbook air is really at awkward position. it has only processing power similar to 12-inch macbook (at most slightly better).
in terms of thickness, it is thicker than macbook pro because of the wedge design.

unless one really wants a 'gold' macbook air which is a colour not available to macbook pro, else even for someone who is using it for basic usage and not video editing, macbook pro is still a better choice.
(personally thinks that the gold color on macbook air does not look so nice. same for the previous gold on macbook 12-inch, that gold is different gold but also does not look nice. The previous rose gold on 12-inch macbook looks even nicer.

someoen also must consider the durability of macbook pro as well, one can easily use it for close to 10 years. given the significant difference in processing power but just paying the little extra, it allows one to use the macbook for much much longer time than macbook air before it even shows slowness for their needs in future.

if u are purely talking about the usability now, certainly the macbook air has no problem to deal with any daily task. but now the focus should be more on which one is more value for money. macbook pro the base model will certainly has this better.

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not really. majority of reviewers think that the 1.4Ghz macbook pro gives better value than macbook air.

if u think that macbook air has advantage over battery life (on paper yes), but based on the real-life test, it is not.

the price gap is really minimum. seriously no one should go for the macbook air.
if the previous 12-inch macbook is selling at the same price as macbook air, it is more worth it to buy comparing to macbook air since it has the maximum portability advantage. now macbook air is really at awkward position. it has only processing power similar to 12-inch macbook (at most slightly better).
in terms of thickness, it is thicker than macbook pro because of the wedge design.

unless one really wants a 'gold' macbook air which is a colour not available to macbook pro, else even for someone who is using it for basic usage and not video editing, macbook pro is still a better choice.
(personally thinks that the gold color on macbook air does not look so nice. same for the previous gold on macbook 12-inch, that gold is different gold but also does not look nice. The previous rose gold on 12-inch macbook looks even nicer.

someoen also must consider the durability of macbook pro as well, one can easily use it for close to 10 years. given the significant difference in processing power but just paying the little extra, it allows one to use the macbook for much much longer time than macbook air before it even shows slowness for their needs in future.

if u are purely talking about the usability now, certainly the macbook air has no problem to deal with any daily task. but now the focus should be more on which one is more value for money. macbook pro the base model will certainly has this better.

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Did you watch the video I posted? I did mention the Pro has a better performance and better value for money didnt I?

I watched the video you posted last week... it's not a fair comparison because the dude uses the Air to play games in the middle.. of course the air is going to run out of juice faster because it wasn't built for that.
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Did you watch the video I posted? I did mention the Pro has a better performance and better value for money didnt I?

I watched the video you posted last week... it's not a fair comparison because the dude uses the Air to play games in the middle.. of course the air is going to run out of juice faster because it wasn't built for that.
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if u felt the two points above = NO reason for anyone to go for macbook air.

as my points go. even for light usage, no reason for one to go for macbook air. it is not becos it cannot handle tasks just simply because it is not 'value for money'.
even for battery life, the extra 2 hours - 12 hours for web surfing - vs 10 hours for web surfing (on paper) is not going to make any reason to go for macbook air also.

like i said, relative comparison, if u can use macbook air 2019 for 5 years, the extra power of macbook pro can certain give u 10 years of usage.

10 years buy one macbook pro vs 5 years change two macbook air becos not going for macbook for the little extra - NO reason for going for macbook air.

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It's just plain weird that you kept saying there's no reason to go for Air...

That's like saying there's no reason to buy designers clothes because they're expensive.

The Air is not for you I get it, but for many other people, that extra 2 hours is a big deal. There are many people who would pay money to get rid of the touch bar. How are these not valid reasons?

Extra RM800? Folks could buy a budget smartphone for that extra cash, how is that not a reason?

Another thing is the aesthetic, I went to the store many times to test out both machines and the Air really does feel more pleasant and comfortable to hold and use. It's more sexy you get what I mean? How is this not a reason?

Sometimes it's not just about the specs, otherwise nobody would be buying Apple products.

Not everyone is planning to use the same machine for 10 years omg...

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It's just plain weird that you kept saying there's no reason to go for Air...

That's like saying there's no reason to buy designers clothes because they're expensive.

The Air is not for you I get it, but for many other people, that extra 2 hours is a big deal. There are many people who would pay money to get rid of the touch bar. How are these not valid reasons?

Extra RM800? Folks could buy a budget smartphone for that extra cash, how is that not a reason?

Another thing is the aesthetic, I went to the store many times to test out both machines and the Air really does feel more pleasant and comfortable to hold and use. It's more sexy you get what I mean?  How is this not a reason?

Sometimes it's not just about the specs, otherwise nobody would be buying Apple products.

Not everyone is planning to use the same machine for 10 years omg...
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it is my 2 cents = nothing wrong for me to think that way. not to mention, many many reputable youtubers have the same views.

if you do not agree, you can simply ignore. i only state the facts and what i think.

if one really has reason to go for it, feel free to do so. in the end, it is ur money afterall.

if one is really has budget constraint that cannot afford to go for macbook pro, then in the first place, it is even simple. there is no need to consider things while you have no choice at all in the first place rite?

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 17 2019, 07:47 PM)
actually for ur care does not even need applecare also can get free repair. there is quality program set up for this.

it can qualify for up to 4 years. so for a macbook pro with no apple care even at 4th year also can get free repair.

https://support.apple.com/13-inch-macbook-p...cklight-service

for my 2017 macbook pro, my battery swell after 2 years. i dun have applecare and apple replaced the battery inclduing the top cover (keyboard) for free for me recently also.

if it is a common problem, no need to even worry there is applecare or not, becos apple will also repair for free.

this is the reason why i dun buy applecare.  tongue.gif
yes, it covers accessories also.
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So actualeeeee, what is the best time period to get apple care if i wan one?

Can apple care b purchased within or after one year limited warranty?

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So actualeeeee, what is the best time period to get apple care if i wan one?

Can apple care b purchased within or after one year limited warranty?

RM895 for extension to three year warranty is d pain in d ***
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if u are not sure, u still have one year to think before u decide whether to buy as long as u buy it BEFORE ur warranty expires.

my macbook pro 2017 has been more than 2 years now. so far so good, i dun think i will need an applecare. i prefer to save the money of applecare for next purchase.

u need to judge yourself whether the applecare is needed for u.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 22 2019, 09:01 AM)
if u are not sure, u still have one year to think before u decide whether to buy as long as u buy it BEFORE ur warranty expires.

my macbook pro 2017 has been more than 2 years now. so far so good, i dun think i will need an applecare. i prefer to save the money of applecare for next purchase.

u need to judge yourself whether the applecare is needed for u.
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Icic...

So far during my two purchases of past Macboooks (including Air), there had been no issues la

Only after reaching 4/5th year, little problem arised hahaha... (Older Al Macbook - hinge cracked, battery replacement...) (Macbook Air - Display white corners appear...)
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Icic...

So far during my two purchases of past Macboooks (including Air), there had been no issues la

Only after reaching 4/5th year, little problem arised hahaha... (Older Al Macbook - hinge cracked, battery replacement...) (Macbook Air - Display white corners appear...)
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if 4th/5th year then only problem surfaces, then applecare does not help also. tongue.gif

i just look forward to next upgrade before the current one retires. however, i think it will take quite a while still for it to happen.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jul 22 2019, 12:31 PM)
if 4th/5th year then only problem surfaces, then applecare does not help also.  tongue.gif

i just look forward to next upgrade before the current one retires. however, i think it will take quite a while still for it to happen.
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Yeap, perhaps i will giv this a pass on apple care for my next purchase
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Yeap, perhaps i will giv this a pass on apple care for my next purchase
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u must be ok with the risks involved.
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Here's why one should go for the Air:


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Have anyone bought their Macbook through official website instead of retailers like Switch? If so, may I know where do you send your laptop to be repaired if one encounters any problem?
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what happen to your machine?
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what happen to your machine?
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Hello, actually I am just deciding to get one next month before uni. Never use any Mac before but since my Iphones and Ipads in the past have served me well, I decide to give it a shot. I used to purchase my devices via retailers but I found out that it is cheaper with education discount at Apple's website and since there are issues about Mac's keyboard, I just want to make sure that I know exactly where to send it to be fixed in case anything happens.

(I have checked the service centers in Malaysia and all of them are under retailers? Correct me if I am wrong)


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QUOTE(DarkSphinix @ Jul 29 2019, 03:28 PM)
Hello, actually I am just deciding to get one next month before uni. Never use any Mac before but since my Iphones and Ipads in the past have served me well, I decide to give it a shot. I used to purchase my devices via retailers but I found out that it is cheaper with education discount at Apple's website and since there are issues about Mac's keyboard, I just want to make sure that I know exactly where to send it to be fixed in case anything happens.

(I have checked the service centers in Malaysia and all of them are under retailers? Correct me if I am wrong)
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You can send to any Apple Service Providers for repair.
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Hello, actually I am just deciding to get one next month before uni. Never use any Mac before but since my Iphones and Ipads in the past have served me well, I decide to give it a shot. I used to purchase my devices via retailers but I found out that it is cheaper with education discount at Apple's website and since there are issues about Mac's keyboard, I just want to make sure that I know exactly where to send it to be fixed in case anything happens.

(I have checked the service centers in Malaysia and all of them are under retailers? Correct me if I am wrong)
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once u used a macbook, u can never go back to windows laptop becos of the excellent display, trackpad, look, quality...
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I actually like the butterfly keyboard more than scissor type.
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guys, im quite cheapskate and i know that.. im currently working and not studying..but do u think if i were to apply for the education pricing, is that possible? will they check and verify?
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guys, im quite cheapskate and i know that.. im currently working and not studying..but do u think if i were to apply for the education pricing, is that possible? will they check and verify?
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Do you have siblings who are still in college?

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Type faster. I have no issues with using the keyboard.
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Type faster. I have no issues with using the keyboard.
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I am not able to decide here.. between macbook and windows laptop

For my requirements,

Media consumption, email, browsing, occasionally work required to run windows so need to run virtualization (no dual boot)

So air and pro which are more preferable in my case?
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I am not able to decide here.. between macbook and windows laptop

For my requirements,

Media consumption, email, browsing, occasionally work required to run windows so need to run virtualization (no dual boot)

So air and pro which are more preferable in my case?
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Pro certainly. The extras on pro vs the price difference makes the current MacBook Pro base model the best value for money macbook to buy now.
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Pro certainly. The extras on pro vs the price difference makes the current MacBook Pro base model the best value for money macbook to buy now.
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Agree on this. The catch is that the 2019 base Pro model still isn't available locally.
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Agree on this. The catch is that the 2019 base Pro model still isn't available locally.
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I bought this laptop a couple of months ago. I am pleased with the purchase, as many of my needs have been met. Now I can easily process the video in finalcut, rendering does not take a day, as before.
It’s very convenient to work without a mouse, I’m not used to it yet, but I already feel that you can work quickly without foreign objects.
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I bought this laptop a couple of months ago. I am pleased with the purchase, as many of my needs have been met. Now I can easily process the video in finalcut, rendering does not take a day, as before.
It’s very convenient to work without a mouse, I’m not used to it yet, but I already feel that you can work quickly without foreign objects.
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QUOTE(Sterneye @ Aug 17 2019, 03:02 AM)
I bought this laptop a couple of months ago. I am pleased with the purchase, as many of my needs have been met. Now I can easily process the video in finalcut, rendering does not take a day, as before.
It’s very convenient to work without a mouse, I’m not used to it yet, but I already feel that you can work quickly without foreign objects.
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Final Cut Pro X is rm1,299 on online Apple website.

is there any cheaper or free alternatives to FCPX?
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Final Cut Pro X is rm1,299 on online Apple website.

is there any cheaper or free alternatives to FCPX?
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but adding effects wise, can imovie do similarly to FCPX?
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but adding effects wise, can imovie do similarly to FCPX?
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Just the faulty butterfly keyboard ....it's prone for dust .

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Just the faulty butterfly keyboard ....it's prone for dust .
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If u use keyboard over, can prevent it. but to be fair, Apple has 4 years warranty on this issue. Should be ok.
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If u use keyboard over, can prevent it. but to be fair, Apple has 4 years warranty on this issue. Should be ok.
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Yes it is covered under warranty but when you are doing frequent teavelling and you machine is stranded in the machine shop that's really is a bummer.

Paying such top dollar for a machine was not suppose to have this type of heache and troublesome.

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Just the faulty butterfly keyboard ....it's prone for dust .
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On top of the other other feedback above, also just avoid eating while using the Mac then its all good. Never face any issue with the Gen 3 butterfly keys so far.
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On top of the other other feedback above, also just avoid eating while using the Mac then its all good. Never face any issue with the Gen 3 butterfly keys so far.
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If you read at other forums discussions it is not about eating when using Mac . There are a dozen of lawsuits in US in regards to the faulty design. Some hets lucky but more majority are not .
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If you read at other forums discussions it is not about eating when using Mac . There are a dozen of lawsuits in US in regards to the faulty design. Some hets lucky but more majority are not .
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There are cases of course, but certainly not majority are facing the keyboard issues. dun think one needs to be over paranoid about it or the reason of not getting a macbook.

https://support.apple.com/en-my/keyboard-se...r-mac-notebooks

Keyboard Service Program for MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro
Apple has determined that a small percentage of the keyboards in certain MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro models may exhibit one or more of the following behaviors:

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Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider will service eligible MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro keyboards, free of charge. The type of service will be determined after the keyboard is examined and may involve the replacement of one or more keys or the whole keyboard.

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Apple covering 4 years warranty on the keyboard that's a pure action of "not" being paranoid due to customers ohh selective minor customers feedback.
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Apple covering 4 years warranty on the keyboard that's a pure action of "not" being paranoid due to customers ohh selective minor customers feedback.
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hey, u guys really paid the full price for the microsoft office? Or is there a way to get it for FOC? Thanks guys
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Hi All, I have really old MacBook air (7 years old) and recently I replace with the MacBook Pro, but my wife is thinking to use it for window, may I ask anyone try to install MacBook Air with window 10 via bootcamp, do you think can it support ?
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Hi All, I have really old MacBook air (7 years old) and recently I replace with the MacBook Pro, but my wife is thinking to use it for window, may I ask anyone try to install MacBook Air with window 10 via bootcamp, do you think can it support ?
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Windows 10 for 7 years old MacBook Pro I think no issue should be able to support. Worst case windows 8 must be supported.
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thanks for the fast response, i actually refer to MacBook air 7 years, I bought the new MacBook Pro ...  sad.gif
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Any idea why my Macbook Air can't seems to detect my WD External HDD?
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Yeah normally old products never drop price until new one released.

Apple is more known to drop price for newly released products nowadays. Iphone 11 and 16-inch macbook is a good example.
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Guys.

Any idea why my Macbook Air can't seems to detect my WD External HDD?
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I think you need format your HDD to MAC Format or install 3rd Party App (I may be wrong biggrin.gif )

FYI...TOSHIBA HDD now come with Windows & MAC compatible
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hi guys, just upgrading to macbook air 2019. i had mbp2012 before and using it to edit video using fcpx. thinking of installing fcpx in my mba, but worried if it will affect my mac performance. anyone has install fcpx on mba2019?
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post Jan 22 2020, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(shazmiey @ Jan 20 2020, 12:42 AM)
hi guys, just upgrading to macbook air 2019. i had mbp2012 before and using it to edit video using fcpx. thinking of installing fcpx in my mba, but worried if it will affect my mac performance. anyone has install fcpx on mba2019?
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Can install without problem
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post Jan 28 2020, 01:34 PM

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mba 2017 right now on sale at switch. still worth to buy?
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QUOTE(redjol @ Jan 28 2020, 02:34 PM)
mba 2017 right now on sale at switch. still worth to buy?
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outdated dy. old design. alang2 get new model. good investment.
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post Feb 4 2020, 08:49 AM

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is 128gb storage enough? How much the OS system size?
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post Feb 4 2020, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(firdaus_xpert @ Feb 4 2020, 08:49 AM)
is 128gb storage enough? How much the OS system size?
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Certainly not enough. Dun waste time on it.

Pay cheap and buy twice.
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post Feb 4 2020, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(firdaus_xpert @ Feb 4 2020, 08:49 AM)
is 128gb storage enough? How much the OS system size?
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not enuf...256 is the best & not useful put into nvme ssd or cloud
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post Feb 5 2020, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Feb 4 2020, 07:14 PM)
not enuf...256 is the best & not useful put into nvme ssd or cloud
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Is the storage upgradable?
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post Feb 5 2020, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Ashhh @ Oct 23 2019, 06:14 PM)
Guys.

Any idea why my Macbook Air can't seems to detect my WD External HDD?
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try to format it using ex-Fat, its compatible with mac and windows 10.


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QUOTE(firdaus_xpert @ Feb 5 2020, 08:46 AM)
Is the storage upgradable?
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post Feb 14 2020, 03:27 PM

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hi sifu
i just joined apple macbook~ bought it from japan

may i know is it advisable to get the apple care? may i know the price?
cant get it from official website thou....

thanks!
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post Feb 15 2020, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(jeremykkt @ Feb 14 2020, 03:27 PM)
hi sifu
i just joined apple macbook~ bought it from japan

may i know is it advisable to get the apple care? may i know the price?
cant get it from official website thou....

thanks!
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which Mac you get?
I assume its air since you asked here
you can find from reseller online
https://www.machines.com.my/collections/acp...d-apple-display
https://switch.com.my/applecare-protection-plan-mac/
https://maccity.com.my/apple-care

And its same for all 13inch model, which is 895

whether worth or not...given the cost to repair 1 these days, buying an insurance for a hardware easily cost 1-2k per repair...
it depends whether u see buying for peace of mind for 3 years valuable or not...
you have 1 year time to consider before the 1st year warranty ended...
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Feb 15 2020, 06:26 PM)
which Mac you get?
I assume its air since you asked here
you can find from reseller online
https://www.machines.com.my/collections/acp...d-apple-display
https://switch.com.my/applecare-protection-plan-mac/
https://maccity.com.my/apple-care

And its same for all 13inch model, which is 895

whether worth or not...given the cost to repair 1 these days, buying an insurance for a hardware easily cost 1-2k per repair...
it depends whether u see buying for peace of mind for 3 years valuable or not...
you have 1 year time to consider before the 1st year warranty ended...
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i see. then let me consider for this 1 year grace period then biggrin.gif

thanks for your reply!

 

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