QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Nov 11 2018, 12:19 PM)
Previously it because of bundle promo...But now I think already over.. But the fund still suspended
Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia
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Nov 11 2018, 04:50 PM
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Nov 11 2018, 05:16 PM
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Sorry , off topic awhile .
Quick question , public mutual vs asnb , for long term like 20years. Which one better ? Cause just now my friend say public mutual dividend 8-10% . I try to read the website but maybe unker bodoh , cannot understand. Public mutual vs asnb for long term , who better ?? |
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Nov 11 2018, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 11 2018, 05:16 PM) Sorry , off topic awhile . One got risk, one no risk. So unless I got crystal ball, nobody can answer you which better.Quick question , public mutual vs asnb , for long term like 20years. Which one better ? Cause just now my friend say public mutual dividend 8-10% . I try to read the website but maybe unker bodoh , cannot understand. Public mutual vs asnb for long term , who better ?? If uncle really want variable price unit trust, do look at fsm thread. |
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Nov 11 2018, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 11 2018, 05:16 PM) Sorry , off topic awhile . nowadays buying private variable UT is like buying bursa stock...too many unit trust to choose from...thats why i still prefer Bursa compared to private UT...same effort required to choose the best UT/Stock..Quick question , public mutual vs asnb , for long term like 20years. Which one better ? Cause just now my friend say public mutual dividend 8-10% . I try to read the website but maybe unker bodoh , cannot understand. Public mutual vs asnb for long term , who better ?? so make it simple and straightforward: - UT is mainly moderate/high risk, definately for long term minimum 5 yrs to able to see significant return...plus u need committed/experienced UT agent who good in adjusting portfolio whenever required..otherwise your UT might sink unnoticed... - ASNB FP is low-risk and for people who expecting stable return. no need to depend to UT agent and no need checking price fluctiation... conclusion...which is better is purely depending on your risk appetite... |
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Nov 11 2018, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(veera77 @ Nov 11 2018, 05:33 PM) nowadays buying private variable UT is like buying bursa stock...too many unit trust to choose from...thats why i still prefer Bursa compared to private UT...same effort required to choose the best UT/Stock.. Ut same like asnb vp , price maybe up maybe down , not consistent. Ic ic. so make it simple and straightforward: - UT is mainly moderate/high risk, definately for long term minimum 5 yrs to able to see significant return...plus u need committed/experienced UT agent who good in adjusting portfolio whenever required..otherwise your UT might sink unnoticed... - ASNB FP is low-risk and for people who expecting stable return. no need to depend to UT agent and no need checking price fluctiation... conclusion...which is better is purely depending on your risk appetite... Then low risk fit me. Thank you very much. |
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Nov 11 2018, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 11 2018, 05:16 PM) Sorry , off topic awhile . Avoid public mutual at all cost. Best to go via FSM MY way.Quick question , public mutual vs asnb , for long term like 20years. Which one better ? Cause just now my friend say public mutual dividend 8-10% . I try to read the website but maybe unker bodoh , cannot understand. Public mutual vs asnb for long term , who better ?? Dividend in variable price fund is useless as is masuk left pocket, keluar right pocket. More info can be found here FSM thread (first page). Returns depend on whether the fund is good or not. Got nothing to do with brand name. Some bad fund give less than FD returns, some good funds give return 2x of ASNB. Your choice, you call. QUOTE(veera77 @ Nov 11 2018, 05:33 PM) nowadays buying private variable UT is like buying bursa stock...too many unit trust to choose from...thats why i still prefer Bursa compared to private UT...same effort required to choose the best UT/Stock.. Not true. You don't need an adviser. You need reading.so make it simple and straightforward: - UT is mainly moderate/high risk, definately for long term minimum 5 yrs to able to see significant return...plus u need committed/experienced UT agent who good in adjusting portfolio whenever required..otherwise your UT might sink unnoticed... - ASNB FP is low-risk and for people who expecting stable return. no need to depend to UT agent and no need checking price fluctiation... conclusion...which is better is purely depending on your risk appetite... |
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Nov 11 2018, 05:53 PM
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Nov 11 2018, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 11 2018, 05:47 PM) Avoid public mutual at all cost. Best to go via FSM MY way. Thank you for explanation.Dividend in variable price fund is useless as is masuk left pocket, keluar right pocket. More info can be found here FSM thread (first page). Returns depend on whether the fund is good or not. Got nothing to do with brand name. Some bad fund give less than FD returns, some good funds give return 2x of ASNB. Your choice, you call. Not true. You don't need an adviser. You need reading. |
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Nov 11 2018, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 11 2018, 05:47 PM) Avoid public mutual at all cost. Best to go via FSM MY way. true..no need adviser actually...but most people who invest in UT don't have any idea how UT work...most UT agent just sell and run-away with their commission...very less UT agent are committed and advising their Client time-to-time genuinely...Dividend in variable price fund is useless as is masuk left pocket, keluar right pocket. More info can be found here FSM thread (first page). Returns depend on whether the fund is good or not. Got nothing to do with brand name. Some bad fund give less than FD returns, some good funds give return 2x of ASNB. Your choice, you call. Not true. You don't need an adviser. You need reading. many who invest UT from EPF, found after 3-5 yrs, UT return much lower than EPF...wasted 3% SC and wasted EPF compounding interest...worst is when the return is negative... thats why, if u don't know about UT or have no time to read about UT...then a reliable UT agent is mandatory..otherwise better stick to FD or ASNB FP...peace of mind about FSM i never tried and explore...will read..thx for link.. This post has been edited by veera77: Nov 11 2018, 06:06 PM |
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Nov 11 2018, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(veera77 @ Nov 11 2018, 06:03 PM) true..no need adviser actually...but most people who invest in UT don't have any idea how UT work...most UT agent just sell and run-away with their commission...very less UT agent are committed and advising their Client time-to-time genuinely... Ya , this the thing I worries.many who invest UT from EPF, found after 3-5 yrs, UT return much lower than EPF...wasted 3% SC and wasted EPF compounding interest...worst is when the return is negative... thats why, if u don't know about UT or have no time to read about UT...then a reliable UT agent is mandatory.. otherwise better stick to FD or ASNB FP... If have to spend alot time on ut , I rather go bursa purchase. *Juz now I misunderstanding , I tot my friend say public mutual every year dividend 8 to 10% and same like asnb fp* |
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Nov 11 2018, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 11 2018, 06:08 PM) Ya , this the thing I worries. they will show historical performance of the best performed UT only.. If have to spend alot time on ut , I rather go bursa purchase. *Juz now I misunderstanding , I tot my friend say public mutual every year dividend 8 to 10% and same like asnb fp* |
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Nov 11 2018, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(veera77 @ Nov 11 2018, 06:13 PM) they will show historical performance of the best performed UT only.. Juz now my friend say every month money deduct from EPF to buy tenaga and public mutual , every year return 8~10%. I tot public mutual same as asnb fp , that's y I check with u all. Seems like my friend have no idea what he buy . |
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Nov 11 2018, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(veera77 @ Nov 11 2018, 06:13 PM) they will show historical performance of the best performed UT only.. Best one got 10 years annualised return of 15%+ I think. I bought one few years ago, year one +15%, year two +15%, year three +15%, year four -15%. If you do the math, the return is around the same as FP at the end... |
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Nov 11 2018, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 11 2018, 06:18 PM) Juz now my friend say every month money deduct from EPF to buy tenaga and public mutual , every year return 8~10%. I tot public mutual same as asnb fp , that's y I check with u all. For me, unit trust is a simple way to diversify investment on other countries, hedge against currency risk e.g. you invest in US fund, USD appreciate, you earn more ringgit.Seems like my friend have no idea what he buy . |
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Nov 11 2018, 06:32 PM
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Nov 11 2018, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 11 2018, 06:32 PM) Never ever buy from banks/agents. By buying from them you are giving them free 2-4% commision. But fromFSM MY eunittrust Both offer near zero % service charge. |
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Nov 11 2018, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(DBHILUHDAQWISRTNJ @ Nov 11 2018, 06:32 PM) For equity fund,FSM is cheaper, and with wider range of funds, sales charge from 0.5 % till 1.75%. Public bank only public mutual funds, 5.5% sales charge. CIMB also got, good range of funds, with 2.5% sales charge (online top up) afaik. Maybank 3.5% sales charge (online top up) if not mistaken, but limited choice of funds. Others bank not sure. But buy via agents, normally 5.5% sales charge. This post has been edited by vanitas: Nov 11 2018, 06:45 PM |
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Nov 11 2018, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 11 2018, 06:42 PM) For equity fund, Helpful info . FSM is cheaper, and with wider range of funds, sales charge from 0.5 % till 1.75%. Public bank only public mutual funds, 5.5% sales charge. CIMB also got, good range of funds, with 2.5% sales charge (online top up) afaik. Maybank 3.5% sales charge (online top up) if not mistaken, but limited choice of funds. Others bank not sure. But buy via agents, normally 5.5% sales charge. Thank-you. |
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Nov 11 2018, 06:49 PM
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Nov 11 2018, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 11 2018, 06:40 PM) Never ever buy from banks/agents. By buying from them you are giving them free 2-4% commision. But from Invest via bank, if amount is really high, can help you get up to private banking services. Some people may want it as a status, some may want saving instead.FSM MY eunittrust Both offer near zero % service charge. |
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