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Technical A n00bie's foray into the x-clamp solution, Definitely not for the faint hearted

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TSGurdian
post Dec 2 2008, 06:03 PM

 

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the reballing solution involves completely ripping out the chip and applying (reballing) the connectors from chip to motherboard.

Pictar frm wikipedia:
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unless you have the necessary hardware and skills needed to perform this, it's better you send it to be fixed instead. otherwise try the more DIY-able x-clamp fix
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post Dec 4 2008, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(juejue123 @ Dec 2 2008, 08:22 AM)
hey afiqasbar, thanks for the tip, i will try asking for insulator washers, where did you get yours from?

GamersFamilia, what is this reballing technique? have not heard about it... care to explain? can DIY?
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i bought it at my area...lucky they sell it...otherwise u can order from lowyat member...here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...nsulator+washer
airborne_1944
post Dec 5 2008, 12:30 AM

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is X-clamp fix permanent fix?
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post Dec 5 2008, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(airborne_1944 @ Dec 5 2008, 12:30 AM)
is X-clamp fix permanent fix?
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temporarily fix. But with luck. it could be permanent! laugh.gif
airborne_1944
post Dec 5 2008, 11:34 PM

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what you mean by luck? what is the % of luck?
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post Dec 6 2008, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(airborne_1944 @ Dec 5 2008, 11:34 PM)
what you mean by luck? what is the % of luck?
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hard to say, 50/50 ? maybe ? you can ask anybody who already did the x clamp before for more information.

I got a few of them .

one last one year.. and one last er... 2 weeks ? laugh.gif
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post Dec 6 2008, 09:13 AM

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for me after x-clamp it works some not lucky enuf it last about 1-3weeks if lucky can last about a year but end up E74. shakehead.gif
airborne_1944
post Dec 6 2008, 03:54 PM

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So how many of your customer out of the customer you fix came back?
Besides when you get RROD after X-Clamp can you do it again?
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post Dec 8 2008, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(airborne_1944 @ Dec 6 2008, 03:54 PM)
So how many of your customer out of the customer you fix came back?
Besides when you get RROD after X-Clamp can you do it again?
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yes. We can actually do the x-clamp method again, but sooner or later, once the motherboard is wrap to the max, there is no way to wrap it back.

unless you got the right tools. (factory tools that is.)


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post Dec 8 2008, 01:14 PM

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what you mean by motherboard is wrap to the max?
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post Dec 8 2008, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(airborne_1944 @ Dec 8 2008, 01:14 PM)
what you mean by motherboard is wrap to the max?
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In another word.. er.. how I should I put it.. I'm noob laugh.gif Bend.
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post Dec 8 2008, 02:34 PM

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I wanna ask a question, why does my xbox hang whenever i try to go to my US account. I deleted my US account, and then when i try to recover it, half way it hangs again. Is it any symptoms of 3rod or is it the internet connection? It never hangs during dashboard or gameplay.
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post Dec 8 2008, 03:51 PM

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guys...
where to buy 8 x 10mm Screw (M5) and 16 x Nylon washer (M6)???


please help me...
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post Dec 8 2008, 04:18 PM

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Errr i thought you pro? can fix 360? so if wrap.. is there any other way to fix?
Really dont know how to explain motherboard wrap max?
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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Dec 8 2008, 02:34 PM)
I wanna ask a question, why does my xbox hang whenever i try to go to my US account. I deleted my US account, and then when i try to recover it, half way it hangs again. Is it any symptoms of 3rod or is it the internet connection? It never hangs during dashboard or gameplay.
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most cases are the internet connection. Try disconnecting and reconnected again with different IP. (streamyx problem somehow is related to this)

QUOTE(airborne_1944 @ Dec 8 2008, 04:18 PM)
Errr i thought you pro? can fix 360? so if wrap.. is there any other way to fix?
Really dont know how to explain motherboard wrap max?
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me not pro la. I'm a newbie like you guys.

there is no way to fix the motherboard to wrap itself. (even with the x clamp fix) its just prevention only.

if 3 RROD occurs again, take it out. loosen the screws.. tighten it again and try again.


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post Dec 8 2008, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Dec 8 2008, 08:21 PM)
most cases are the internet connection. Try disconnecting and reconnected again with different IP. (streamyx problem somehow is related to this)
me not pro la. I'm a newbie like you guys.

there is no way to fix the motherboard to wrap itself. (even with the x clamp fix) its just prevention only.

if 3 RROD occurs again, take it out. loosen the screws.. tighten it again and try again.
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An easier explanation:

If your XBOX360 is still under warranty, send to Singapore via GH (courier), or courier to SG yourself, or send to SG yourself

Else, meaning already out of warranty, recommend send to Tech2 for reballing

Comparison:

Sending back to SG
- Courier fees RM350
- Return in 3 months perhaps ?
- possible getting a new / falcon version
- possible getting another refurbished version
- no guarantee that it will not 3ROD again

sending to Tech2
- RM400 for reballing and the chip
- done in 2-3 working days
- warranty, if 3ROD within 3 months, can send back to Tech2

X-clamp not recommended by most ppl coz the result is not guaranteed.....and may differ
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post Dec 8 2008, 10:12 PM

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ok thx.
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post Dec 9 2008, 08:32 PM

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go fix and sell them and get new one (jasper is around the corner)
problem free laugh.gif
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post Dec 9 2008, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Dec 9 2008, 08:32 PM)
go fix and sell them and get new one (jasper is around the corner)
problem free  laugh.gif
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where got such thing at the moment is problem free boss laugh.gif
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