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post Mar 18 2021, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(kk131 @ Mar 18 2021, 06:04 AM)
The WAN port of the router should connect to the ONT. Check how many LAN ports provided on your proposed router, is the switch necessary for your installation, are you planning to add more ethernet connections not shown?
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Thanks for the advice.

You mean the AX5400 should connect to the ONT ? The AX5400 only has 4 Ethernet ports - do I then connect the switch to the router via the uplink port ? Would the AX5400 be the bottleneck ?

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post Mar 18 2021, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(gc68 @ Mar 18 2021, 07:33 AM)
Thanks for the advice.

You mean the AX5400 should connect to the ONT ? The AX5400 only has 4 Ethernet ports - do I then connect the switch to the router via the uplink port ? Would the AX5400 be the bottleneck ?

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Yes your new diagram is correct.

According to the dlink website the AX5400 has '4 Gigabit Ethernet LAN ports and 1 Gigabit Ethernet WAN port provide optional wired connectivity'.

The router's primary purpose is to route packets on your network so all data between your LAN and the internet has to go through the the router, it's also providing security (firewall services) to protect your network and network address translation (NAT) for IPV4 (amongst other services). According to the spec it should not be a bottleneck.

I'm wondering if your storeroom is the best place for the router however, if it has brickwork walls the WiFi signal will be drastically attenuated (especially 5Ghz band).

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post Mar 18 2021, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(kk131 @ Mar 18 2021, 08:01 AM)
Yes your new diagram is correct.

According to the dlink website the AX5400 has '4 Gigabit Ethernet LAN ports and 1 Gigabit Ethernet WAN port provide optional wired connectivity'.

The router's primary purpose is to route packets on your network so all data between your LAN and the internet has to go through the the router, it's also providing security (firewall services) to protect your network and network address translation (NAT) for IPV4 (amongst other services). According to the spec it should not be a bottleneck.

I'm wondering if your storeroom is the best place for the router however, if it has brickwork walls the WiFi signal will be drastically attenuated (especially 5Ghz band).
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Yes indeed, the store room is certainly not the best place for the router.

The problem is all the LAN cables from around the house terminates at the store room. And the cables are quite short as you can see.

That's why I thought I can have a gigabit switch there to "extended" it and then place the router at the living room, just like in the first network diagram.

Another option is to do a patch panel ? But how to even fit a patch panel is such as small box ? Would patch panels degrade the connection and performance ?

Any way around this problem ?


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post Mar 18 2021, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(kk131 @ Mar 18 2021, 08:01 AM)
Yes your new diagram is correct.

According to the dlink website the AX5400 has '4 Gigabit Ethernet LAN ports and 1 Gigabit Ethernet WAN port provide optional wired connectivity'.

The router's primary purpose is to route packets on your network so all data between your LAN and the internet has to go through the the router, it's also providing security (firewall services) to protect your network and network address translation (NAT) for IPV4 (amongst other services). According to the spec it should not be a bottleneck.

I'm wondering if your storeroom is the best place for the router however, if it has brickwork walls the WiFi signal will be drastically attenuated (especially 5Ghz band).
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Oh one more thing - I plan to get DLink switch model DGS-1010P-E, which has 8+2 ports. 8 POE ports + 2 uplink ports

The router will connect to to 1 of the uplink ports - which will give better performance right ?


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post Mar 18 2021, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(gc68 @ Mar 18 2021, 08:45 AM)
Oh one more thing - I plan to get DLink switch model DGS-1010P-E, which has 8+2 ports. 8 POE ports + 2 uplink ports

The router will connect to to 1 of the uplink ports - which will give better performance right ?
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I'm not an expert on switches but I think you're correct. Where is the incoming FTTH located, also in the store room?
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post Mar 18 2021, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(kk131 @ Mar 18 2021, 08:54 AM)
I'm not an expert on switches but I think you're correct. Where is the incoming FTTH located, also in the store room?
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Yes, the fibre terminates right next to the LAN cable box.

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QUOTE(gc68 @ Mar 18 2021, 09:03 AM)
Yes, the fibre terminates right next to the LAN cable box.
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You could test coverage with the router inside the storeroom, otherwise I would locate the router in a convenient position outside the room, wall mount the switch in the storeroom adjacent to the box in your photo (not inside the box or it won't be ventilated), route 2 ethernet cables:

- ONT to router
- router to switch

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post Mar 18 2021, 02:06 PM

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Hello guys

Would like to know the signal of the Wifi Router will go weak or heat if i hide it inside my cabinet in a 2-bedroom condo?

Thanks.

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post Mar 18 2021, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Mar 18 2021, 02:06 PM)
Hello guys

Would like to know the signal of the Wifi Router will go weak or heat if i hide it inside my cabinet in a 2-bedroom condo?

Thanks.

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Both. Router signal will be and get overheat due to no ventilation.

If there is a hole then won't heat that much but signal will be
affected.

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Mar 18 2021, 02:06 PM)
Hello guys

Would like to know the signal of the Wifi Router will go weak or heat if i hide it inside my cabinet in a 2-bedroom condo?

Thanks.

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Can do self testing.
Install any wifi scanner with dbi reading.
Stand beside your wifi router and check its strength (that is your referrence).
Close your cabinet. See how much it drop. If no drop means your cabinet didn't reflect much the signal wave.
Walk around your house and if the reading drop half, it is time to add mesh.
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Mar 18 2021, 02:06 PM)
Hello guys

Would like to know the signal of the Wifi Router will go weak or heat if i hide it inside my cabinet in a 2-bedroom condo?

Thanks.

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The Ubiquiti AP is designed to be ceiling mounted. Placing it like that will result in poor signal.

Yes, the cabinet will weaken the WiFi signal, not an issue if you have several APs in your condo.

I won't worry too much about the heat since you have a Noctua fan. tongue.gif
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if I have a spare router that I used as a repeater (192.168.1.1), connect it via Ethernet cable to the main router (192.168.0.1). In order to access internet via the repeater, I must set my devices as having 192.168.0.x and set gateway as 192.168.0.1. Is there anyway to make Internet available by having the device remain within 192.168.1.x and gateway via 192.168.1.1? My devices are connected to the "repeater".

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QUOTE(filage @ Mar 18 2021, 04:41 PM)
if I have a spare router that I used as a repeater (192.168.1.1), connect it via Ethernet cable to the main router (192.168.0.1).  In order to access internet via the repeater, I must set my devices as having 192.168.0.x and set gateway as 192.168.0.1. Is there anyway to make Internet available by having the device remain within 192.168.1.x and gateway via 192.168.1.1? My devices are connected to the "repeater".
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I would suggest for you to connect both routers via ethernet and use the secondary router as access point. If your secondary router have dedicated AP mode, just use it in that mode, otherwise just manually set it as access point. This way, you don't need to care about multiple subnet and/or double NAT issues.
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post Mar 18 2021, 11:36 PM

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For mesh wifi tp link m9 plus, x20 or x60.
Is it better to remain the unifi default router, mesh wifi connect to default router.
Or dont use default router, direct use mesh wifi unit as router?
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QUOTE(ckh83 @ Mar 18 2021, 11:36 PM)
For mesh wifi tp link m9 plus, x20 or x60.
Is it better to remain the unifi default router, mesh wifi connect to default router.
Or dont use default router, direct use mesh wifi unit as router?
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Replace Unifi Default is the best option as it is using different SSID. This will cause WiFi interference.

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post Mar 19 2021, 06:56 AM

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Hi guys ive got a tight budget between RM400 to RM600...i wanted to find the best reliability router....i dont need the speed as much as i think im gonna end up using cheapskate 30mbps unifi connection anyway.....but i wanted something reliable...im sick of needing to restart my tplink router everyday just to get a fresh performance out of it...fyi my house just around 3000sqf double story terrace house...

My shortlist is here:
1. Refirbish china Asus AC86u
2. Asus AX3000
3. Dlink ax5460
4. Tp Link AX73 (is hard to trust this brand but the price is tempting)

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post Mar 19 2021, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Mar 19 2021, 12:01 AM)
Replace Unifi Default is the best option as it is using different SSID. This will cause WiFi interference.

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So it's direct use mesh wifi main unit as router right?
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QUOTE(Punish @ Mar 19 2021, 06:56 AM)
Hi guys ive got a tight budget between RM400 to RM600...i wanted to find the best reliability router....i dont need the speed as much as i think im gonna end up using cheapskate 30mbps unifi connection anyway.....but i wanted something reliable...im sick of needing to restart my tplink router everyday just to get a fresh performance out of it...fyi my house just around 3000sqf double story terrace house...

My shortlist is here:
1. Refirbish china Asus AC86u
2. Asus AX3000
3. Dlink ax5460
4. Tp Link AX73 (is hard to trust this brand but the price is tempting)
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What's your stock router model.
Since that you are using 300mbps.
You may consider the Deco M5 Twin Pack as your house is more than 1000sqft.
AX Routers will be an overkill for 30mbps.
Usually higher end routers from TP-LINK are better than lower end.
I'm using Archer C9 and doesn't have any issues.
Archer C9 has already been discontinued and replaced by Archer C80.

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QUOTE(ckh83 @ Mar 19 2021, 08:02 AM)
So it's direct use mesh wifi main unit as router right?
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Yes, correct.

If you use as an AP Mode, the speed might be reduced.
I have a few members here experienced that replace existing router is better than setting as AP mode.

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QUOTE(Punish @ Mar 19 2021, 06:56 AM)
Hi guys ive got a tight budget between RM400 to RM600...i wanted to find the best reliability router....i dont need the speed as much as i think im gonna end up using cheapskate 30mbps unifi connection anyway.....but i wanted something reliable...im sick of needing to restart my tplink router everyday just to get a fresh performance out of it...fyi my house just around 3000sqf double story terrace house...

My shortlist is here:
1. Refirbish china Asus AC86u
2. Asus AX3000
3. Dlink ax5460
4. Tp Link AX73 (is hard to trust this brand but the price is tempting)
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Iwouldn't recommend the old AC86U router they have known thermal problems that causes cracking of the solder joints.

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