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karynkhoo
post Nov 23 2009, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(bananarojak @ Nov 22 2009, 05:21 PM)
coil springs are small springs that are placed to move your teeth along the archwire (e.g. to create gaps or move a teeth to its right position)

See attachment.
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OMG! That looks scary... It's only used in traditional braces? or in self-ligating ones as well?
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post Dec 11 2009, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(baby_boi @ Dec 8 2009, 09:17 PM)
Hey guys,Its ronnie here.

  i came back from my app for this month today from doctor how. So remember the 2 brackets that kept popping off? well finally doctor how decided to put bite stopper on Me... cry.gif

  But its not that bad,cuz i have to do some speech for my college,i asked him if he can not make too thick. So its not that thick now and my speech isnt really affected thank god.But its weird everytime wanting to bite together that ur teeth dont meet.haha
  Think that solved the popping bracket issue,cuz he claims that my uppers might be biting straight onto the brackets causing them to detach.Well guess what,they both POP OUT AGAIN.

  If im counting correctly this might be the sixth or 5th time!!!! Im soooo frustrated right now cuz its about rm50 to pay for a can to go from cyberjaya to bangsar.This is absurd! as i can barely survive myself as a student!
  What do u guys think? should i opt for bracket change? i mean of course he is the doctor and he certainly knows what to do,but i have a feeling its the brackets..they can get damaged/or lose its cementing capabilities right?? im calling the place tomorrow for an emergency walk in app,i might request for the bitestopper to be added in thickness and might as for bracket change [is that even possible?]

Im at wits end.its frustrating me cuz this would certainly lengthen my treatment time.And that is NOT good. Looks like i wont be debracing myself anytime near July  sad.gif

  Owh and now since ive been using the rubber bands,he told me to quit them.Instead he used some kind of metal bands on my uppers to close my gap.For some reason i love the pressure on my teeth,i hate the feeling when he takes the wire off for a wire change.felt like they are going to fall off! haha
Anyways,tell me what u guys think. If you got experiences with any doctor.I just want to know. SIGH...

TC!
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You are saying ur brackets keep on popping off, means the wire pops up from the brackets? or the brackets themselves pop up? I have my braces at dr. how too. It's my 6th month now. I had bite stopper since my 2nd month having braces. The wire came off once n doctor told me, it's because I'm eating/chewing better n tat creates pressure on the wire which cause it to come off. Maybe you can try not to eat hard food or chew too hard.
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post Dec 14 2009, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(leng_leng @ Dec 13 2009, 11:20 PM)
Yup!! my upper teeth need space to move inside cos too protruding out d..so need to grind like 6 of my upper teeth.. this is the last choice of no choice.. the process of grinding teeth is very scary ler..!  sweat.gif its like the blade cutting ur gum.....now think back also takut ah!

nikki, i find is kinda difficult to brush the gap between each teeth after putting on the rubber.. even using the interdental also hard to go in leh.. Is the rubber wil change color if we eat sumthing which easily stain on the teeth.. like curry or coffee?
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not sure if we are talking about the same type of rubber. is it a round shape rubber put in between teeth? if yes, it will change colour. mine already changed from blue to a bit yellowish...
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post Dec 14 2009, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(NikkiDaTeddy @ Dec 14 2009, 01:05 AM)
Emmm... to avoid confusion, i think i better add picture here.

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So which type? Basically I uses (A) to close gaps. Gaps from extraction. This rubberband will stain a little but not obvious. and its only happen at the back. So the stain part usually wont show.

However, to those traditional metal braces wearer, u will have the (B) type. Damon and In-ovation wont have these. This is the type where u get to choose different color every month.

As for C. I wore this b4 in the beginning. This is an express alignment tool. When i have these, my teeth move into position so fast and soon u hav straight teeth already. There are different color for this also. I had transparent and it stain super fast and i always ended up with yellow teeth looking. To be exact, the rubber got yellow, not my teeth. Doctor also used this to hook it on my teeth to my screws. To my gum treatment.

Leng Leng, if u are refering to (A), when brushing ur teeth, just take out the rubberband and brush. After that, put it back on... But if u are tlking abt ©, hahaha...good luck. Its memang difficult to brush. During my time, at some teeth, i cant even push the interdental brush in it. Cos its too narrow in space.
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Nikki, thanks for the photos. Previously I thought you all were talking about separator tongue.gif

Referring to the photos, I'm having C now. Dr How chooses gray colour for me and it doesn't stain.
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post Dec 15 2009, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(NikkiDaTeddy @ Dec 15 2009, 10:38 AM)
Got different color wan...u try to ask ur doctor...if u hav the transparent wan, stay away from curry or anything with kunyit...it will stain it...and its horrible.

Actually i wonder why doctor didnt tell u or explain the things they use on u... my doctor will tell us the name of the things....thats why i know the names... and yes, its powerchain...however, some powerchain or in metal. doctor will twist the metal around brackets to tighten the whole jaw.
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Dr. How explain the things they use on you? How come he did not explain to me? I got to know the name by eavesdropping what he told the nurse/assistant. He did not explain to me.... It makes me feel very insecured and uncomfortable because I do not know what is he doing to my teeth... Even when I ask, he gives me very short answers. Maybe he has too many patient to attend to, no time to explain to me... sad.gif

My last appointment was last Saturday, dr repositioned 4 brackets and put 4 powerchain at upper, 7 powerchain at lower. My gum has been bleeding quite a lot since Saturday, going to c dr again today to check if everything is ok.


Added on December 15, 2009, 11:32 am
QUOTE(leng_leng @ Dec 14 2009, 08:34 PM)
Nikki...thanks for ur pics!!

Im having the C type. Really hard to brush ler and i notice the color started to change frm white to abit yellowish d... sobs  cry.gif

So the C type is call Powerchain kah? all the while i duno wut ppl talking bout powerchain.. now with ur pics I can have better understanding liao... hehe

I use the super small interdental brush which bought frm Daiso to clean between the gaps n the rubber...I find the food is more easier to get stucked with the rubber installed...aikss  doh.gif  now after eating I lagi dare not open my mouth without brushing my teeth... laugh.gif


Added on December 14, 2009, 8:35 pm

Got gret color one ah? aiyerrr how come my doc tak ada one....mine turning into yellowish d so geli....
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I think the default colour of powerchain tat doc chooses for u depends on the type of braces u are having. If you are using transparent/ceramic type, doc will give u transparent powerchain. As for my case, I'm using damon 3mx metal, tat's y doc choose gray powerchain for me.

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post Dec 17 2009, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(abchaha @ Dec 16 2009, 08:44 PM)
anyone know where is the location ?please, i also want to get braced!
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Here's the location info:

How's Orthodontics & Dental Surgery (Website)

Bangsar Clinic: 64-1, Jalan Telawi, Bangsar Baru, 59100 Kuala Lumpur. Tel: 22845529/016-3365529 (Map)
Cheras Branch: 28A, Jalan Jejaka 9, Taman Maluri, Cheras, 55100 Kuala Lumpur. Tel: 92815529/92814529 (Map)

The clinics are closed on Fridays and Sundays. Dr. How will only be in Maluri branch on Tuesdays and Thursday evening. He'll be in Bangsar clinic the rest of the time.

Hope this helps.
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post Jan 5 2010, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(NikkiDaTeddy @ Jan 4 2010, 12:06 PM)
yayaya...strongly agree.... nicer and confident smile.  rclxms.gif
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Recently, no matter where I go, I always pay attention to ppl's teeth and I always have the urge to suggest other ppl to do braces. I think I'm "SICK"...
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post Jan 6 2010, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(NikkiDaTeddy @ Jan 6 2010, 09:02 AM)
U're normal. Hahaha... i even criticize celebs or ppl on tv. And will point out whoever who had teeth makeover.
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How to know who had teeth makeover? Some ppl might be born with perfect set of teeth...
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post Jan 13 2010, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(NikkiDaTeddy @ Jan 13 2010, 08:59 AM)
He always does. Only this time. I guess its to align my jaw. Cos my teeth was not aligned. U know wat, just two nights after appt, i can feel my teeth moving again!
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Why Dr. How never explains things to me ar? Need to ask him a lot of questions is it? My appointment is tonight. Dunno what is he going to do this time. Dunno how pain will it be this time...
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post Jan 14 2010, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(NikkiDaTeddy @ Jan 13 2010, 01:27 PM)
If u're not sure, u just ask lo. Or else u wont know the purpose. And no worries, no pain no gain. Just like me, i feel pain but i see the result right away. So its not a bad thing ma.
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Dr How repositioned 4 brackets for me last night. 1 bracket came off this morning. Have to go to fix the bracket this afternoon. The girl ask me to walk in. Hopefully don't have to wait for too long until past my lunch time...
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post Jan 15 2010, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(crapoccur @ Jan 14 2010, 07:23 PM)
Dear diary,

Just installed my braces about 1.5 hours ago. Feeling the tension in my teeth. It's making my jaws abit numb.
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Welcome to the bracesians' place! Are you using traditional or self-ligating braces? If it's self-ligating, you shouldn't feel the pain within the 4-5 hours after installing it.

Anyway, it's normal that you feel numb for 3-5 days and won't be able to bite/chew anything. After that you'll feel better.
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post Jan 17 2010, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(NikkiDaTeddy @ Jan 15 2010, 05:19 PM)
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I dont remove my dental wax wor. Sometimes swallowed, i'm still alive. tongue.gif
And at one period, i had dental wax 27/7 for few months. Then after a while the wire doesnt poke so easily then i stop using edy.
IF really dont like putting wax for long term, just ask doctor to cut it off. smile.gif
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Same to me here. I also never remove dental wax when eating and I always swallow it. I only need to use dental wax when end of the wire is poking me. I agree with Nikki that the best solution is to trim the wire.

As for sharp edge of the bracket, I don't use dental wax. I just bear with it for few days, then it doesn't hurt anymore.

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post Jan 18 2010, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(Samanoske Akechi @ Jan 17 2010, 11:28 PM)
To those who've had experience with this, I'd like some recommendations of good doctors/clinics which offer (AND recommend) InOvation treatments, particularly the ceramic one. From what I've read here, the additional investment does pay off in terms of comfort and reduced treatment durations. Also, some cost range expectations would be nice. I currently reside in Subang USJ, so anywhere within the KL/PJ vicinity should be fine.

Another point of inquiry, what is the average delay between the first appointment and the actual installation of the braces?

Thanks. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. smile.gif
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Some of us here have been going to How's Orthodontics in Bangsar. Dr. How is a highly qualified, knowledgeable and experienced orthodontic. For more information, please refer to post #1279.
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post Jan 19 2010, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(mrchildren @ Jan 19 2010, 09:37 PM)
Gosh, it's been quite a while since my last post. I'm now in my 7th month of braces. Last month, the doctor asked whether or not I want to extract my teeth as it will give more space for other teeth to move in. He said that it's optional since i will still look ok even without any extraction. However, for today's appointment, he noticed that there's no movement at all from last month, meaning to say that I may need extraction now. Oh gosh, there goes my idea of keeping all my healthy teeth.

Can someone tell me how long does it take for the teeth to close the gap in between after extraction? And is the pain bearable? I had really bad experience in my childhood where the nurse pulled out one of my loose tooth without any anaesthetic. Plus, will the gaps from the missing teeth look obvious? I need to learn not to smile anymore to conceal that ugly holes. Oh well.. Enlighten me please.
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how many teeth did the doctor ask you to extract? are they wisdom teeth or others? if they are wisdom teeth, should have problem of closing gaps, i guess...

if other teeth, i'll leave the question to our seniors here, as my case doesn't require extraction so far. hopefully, don't need any till the end...
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post Jan 20 2010, 04:27 PM

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I've a minor request... Can some of the seniors here post some before and after/current photos. Just for motivation purpose.
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post Jan 20 2010, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Samanoske Akechi @ Jan 20 2010, 04:56 PM)
How long would a first appointment for inspection etc. + installation of braces take on average? Also, are the Damon 3 and InOvation C treatments self-ligating?
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first appointment for inspection etc. + installation of braces can be on the same day. yes, Damon 3 and InOvation C treatments are self-ligating.
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post Jan 21 2010, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(crapoccur @ Jan 20 2010, 06:04 PM)
Seldom lah, usually the dentist will ask u to go for X-ray, explain to you the whole process, quote a price, maybe extract some teeth, take a mould, put dental separators if necessary.

Hard to put in braces in one day. One week more reasonable.
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i mean fastest 1 day. i think there's at least 2 ppl here did x-ray, mould and installation on the same day. That's me and mrchildren, if not mistaken.
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post Jan 21 2010, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(NikkiDaTeddy @ Jan 21 2010, 09:12 AM)
Seniors like me and Kentcp had posted pics of us many many times. Too lazy to post again and later ppl ask again.... Same for some questions that we seniors had shared many many times and we do not what to repeat ourselves.


Added on January 21, 2010, 9:15 am
It also depend if the appt and time allow. Btw, the doctor are called Orthodontist not dentist. Dentist are ur normal dental doctor where else i believe orthodontist has higher qualification and are allow to do braces for you.

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Sorry, I did not make myself clear enough. I mean if there are any latest photos that show latest progress. Not those that the seniors have already uploaded previously. Anyway, it's ok if it's a hassle to upload photo.

As for the orthodontist and dentist terms, I notice there are many dentists out there who perform orthodontics treatments as well. Any general dentist who has taken the short orthodontics course can actually do that, normally at lower cost. However, I would still prefer to go to orthodontist. Here's a website to search for orthodontists in Malaysia.

Malaysian Association of Orthodontists


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post Jan 21 2010, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(mrchildren @ Jan 21 2010, 09:13 PM)
as usual, 2 molar from upper jaw and another 2 from lower. I roughly know what kind of parts that would be put to close gaps from the seniors posts. However, i have to overcome the tooth extraction trauma first.
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OMG! From 0 extraction to 4!

I heard from friends who did braces with extraction. They said the least painful stage in doing braces is the extraction part. Not sure how true is it. Let's see what our seniors here think.
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post Jan 24 2010, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(leng_leng @ Jan 24 2010, 08:26 PM)
yeah i think with ur budget only can option for traditional type...

But in my point of view, its worth to pay more to choose a better type of braces.. you wont regret.. biggrin.gif


Added on January 24, 2010, 8:28 pm

I will upload my pic that shows the progress later abit... hehe blush.gif
TaddaaaAAaaaa~~~!!!

Here's my pic as per requsted.... (sorry some of the pics are quite blur hehe)
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WOW! This is impressive!!!
How long did you take from beginning until now?

Here's mine...

June 2009
Bonding for upper jaw.

July 2009
Bonding for lower jaw. Put bite stoppers, left and right side each.

August 2009
Put 17 separators.

September 2009
Change wire and 2 power chains for upper jaw.

October 2009
4 power chains for upper jaw.
Change wire for lower jaw.

November 2009 (Forgot to snap photos)
Change wire and 6 power chains for upper jaw.

December 2009
Reposition some brackets and put 4 power chains for upper jaw.
8 power chains for lower jaw.

January 2010
Reposition some brackets and put 6 power chains for upper jaw.
Change wire for lower jaw and remove left bite stopper.

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Added on January 24, 2010, 11:34 pm
QUOTE(NikkiDaTeddy @ Jan 24 2010, 11:27 PM)
What do u mean by ur jaw moving to one side? Do u mean ur upper and lower jaw are not symmetrical?
If yes, i'm sure braces can help ur condition. Where
else u mention abt ur gum issue, depending how serious it is. IF not very serious, it can be treated via ortho treatment but also depends very the doctor provide the service.

Get some advice from dental surgery clinic and orthordontic clinics maybe?
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I agree better get advice from the experts. Many orthodontics and dental clinic provides free consultation. Even if it's not free, the charge is not too high.

This post has been edited by karynkhoo: Jan 25 2010, 10:34 PM

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