Wow...i feel so flattered. I only know, soon i will be lenglui when i complete my treatment. hehehe... i think i still have around 11mths to go? Yesterday, Dr How say that i'm less gummy now...hehehe

hi, i went for my first orthodontic appointment today to quote for the price for Damon 3. The doctor charges 6.5k for a duration of 2-3 years. And i was told that i may need to extract 4 teeth (2 upper and 2 lower) and also one of my wisdom teeth. I'm quite skeptical as no one has mentioned about having to extract so many teeth. Btw, my case is not very serious, so i don't know if she's doing the right thing. Is the price a bit too high? Like white tulip said, hers was only 6.5 for In-ovation C. Please advise. Thanks.

mine was 4k ler....tat was like 2 years  ago... got until 2k tat low meh...

hi kentcp,

i'm new to this and I am planning to put braces. Am in my thirties and want something less visible and not so torturing (haha).

i noticed that u highly recommend Dr How. See, I am not a very kan-cheong person in terms of braces (haha). Don't mind slower progress but less pain and torture, so I've been hearing that Dr How is known for speeding up the process by fixing stop bites, teeth spacers, power chains, screws etc etc, which sounds like real torture to me. I just want normal ortho help to straighten my teeth, if with all these extra help, it take less than 2 years to complete, I wouldn't mind waiting another 1/2 year to go without the extra gadgets added. Do you think Dr How will accommodate this?

My assumption is most of Dr How's patients are either in their teens or early twenties, so they are rather comfortable with quicker results, never minds the pain, but since I am already in my mid thirties, I don't mind waiting extra half a year or so, if it's less painful

What do you think? Or have you heard of other good orthodontists out there?

That's so much cheaper than the orthodontist in Kepong that i went to. I'm still deciding whether to go for Damon or Inovation-C. As a matter of fact, I don't like the metal as much because it is pretty visible. Is Inovation-C much better in terms of aesthetics in comparison to damon? But i heard ceramic brackets tend to break easier and slightly more painful. Is that true? Kentcp, what is the duration for your braces? And did you need any teeth extraction?

I just made an appointment with Dr How for this week. The nurse said that i have to get 3 xray films on the first consultation. Is that true kentcp? How much do i need to pay?

hi kentcp,

After reading the recommendation from most of you here, I went to Dr. How for consultation last week. He quoted me RM6k for metal Damon 3, without extraction (excluding x-ray, mold, pic). This is slightly more expensive than the price you listed here. Do you think I still can nego with him?

Another question is, although he said my case does not need extraction, I wonder if he will tell me that I need to extract some of my teeth half-way through the process. I really hope that my problem can be solve without any extraction and as soon as possible. I cannot make up my mind whether to go for it or not. My problem is 2 of my upper and 1 lower gigi taring is not align because not enough space. It's actually not very obvious even when I smile. I'm not sure if it worth the price, time and pain. Any advice?

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thanks a lot for the advice. Hope he will be willing to reduce the price. By the way, you suggested me to quote your name, do you mind telling me your name? I guess I cannot quote your forum username right?

Besides, I saw some other equipments mentioned here, like bite stopper, screws, retainer. Are the cost of those included in the RM5.6k or will be charged separately?

Thanks, Kenny.

By the way, I've another concern. From what I understand, self-ligating system doesn't require teeth extraction in most cases because it has the capability to expand/widen the arch. Hence, I wonder if this will change the structure of your face? Will it make your face wider/fatter?

hi all, i've posted here before for advice but i dont think so any1 remembers me. I'm going to have my very first ever consultation next week and i'm a bit nervous. lol . i know usually the first consultation is just to examine the condition of the teeth, x ray etc but i still feel very nervous

Anyone here know wuts the diff between Damon 3 and Damon MX?
One of the bracket of my upper teeth tertanggal today...   So i called up my ortho and she told me that my lower teeth is using Damon MX whereby upper one is using Damon 3... She said Damon 3 easily tertanggal so she will replace me the bracket with Damon mx...

hi nikki,

yup i have the dental wax but then im afraid i will accidentally swallow it when i'm eating or drinking something..

am using the self-ligating one which i think it's also known as the damon one rite..

also, i'm feeling the pain already which i guess my teeth is starting to move rite? i can hardly eat anything

by the way, the whole process costs me about RM5600 inclusive of tooth extraction and xray..not sure if the retainer is included or not..

is the price reasonable? didn't really do much research on the price though..

Kentcp, that means damon mx is more canggih than damon 3?

I failed to bargain... Dr. How said RM5.6k for your case was introductory price and it was 2 yrs ago. Now it is RM6k already. 1 cent also cannot reduce. Anyway, I still decided to go for it. I got my upper set of teeth done last night. Now I'm officially in this Bracesians club already.

Btw, Kenny, Dr. How told me that you were interviewed by reporter and your case will be in newspaper soon. Mind to share with us what is it all about?

I also asked Dr. How about Daemon 3 and Daemon MX. I notice that he used these 2 terms interchangeably. Are they the same actually? At first he said he'll do Daemon MX for me. After a while, he said it's Daemon 3. Although the braces is already in my mouth, but I'm not sure whether it's 3 or MX. Sigh...

Besides, Dr. glued the braces at lower part of my teeth. This makes the braces visible even when i'm not smiling. Is this normal? Does anyone know the reason for this?

I was also told that it might be very painful and I might need painkiller. However, after 15 hours of having the braces on, I don't really feel painful. I only feel slightly pain when I try to bite. Is this normal?

p/s: who are the guy who pretend as girl you all are talking about? Just out of curiosity...

Sorry  but i am a girl pretending to be a guy too    not intentionally pretending but for a reason. Going to extract my teeth tomorrow. I'm kind of scared ler. I need to extract 4 tooth . 2 upper, 2 lower. Not sure how mny will kena extracted tomolo. tomolo will know 

About extraction, my ortho does not provide this service so i have to extract at a dental clinic and my ortho said once i've extracted all the teeth i can start installing braces, as fast as the day after my extration . I was like wow! it must be very painful . it is like right after extraction today and tomolo install braces?! crazy..   but the ortho insists that it is not painful one wor and she said the braces wont affect the 'hole' of the extracted teeth.. but i have to make an appointment for installing braces within a week after teeth extraction else the process will be less effective d. So tomolo going to see how long will it take to extract all the required teeth.

Dr. How said that you are going to take off your braces soon. Congratulations! So when will that be? Can post some photos after it's done? As kind of encouragement and motivation for the rest of us here.

Now I'm beginning to feel the discomfort and inconvenience of having the braces on. Cannot chew at all and the end of the archwire is causing ulcer. I tried to apply the dental wax but it took me 15 mins this morning to stick it on. Now is only upper jaw, I cannot imagine how will it be like when my lower jaw is installed with braces as well. I wonder how so many ppl can manage to go through this type of misery...

My mom said I pay so much for misery...

OMG! Kenny, ur case really looks complicated. Now I understand why reporter interviews you. And the Aug 2008 photo looks really scary... Especially the screws... Your teeth looks perfect now! Dr. How did magic on your teeth. Really worth the cost and the pain! Congratulations!

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Added on June 25, 2009, 9:01 am

I have a deep bite problem too Hopefully i dun have to pasang all those scary stuffs ler.. scared ler

Yah... and what is the purpose of the zig zag thingy?