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post Aug 20 2019, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(hypermax @ Aug 19 2019, 11:44 PM)
I have just built a rig with Ryzen 5 3600 with B450 Strix-F. On latest bios 2605 (Aegesa 1003 ab). All core boost clock (PBO + auto overclocking) is only 3950Mhz during CPU-Z stress test and Aida64 stability test. single core boost also never goes beyond 4100Mhz. However i can manual overclock to all core boost clock of 4200MHz with voltage of 1.4V, Aida64 stable for 30min.

I am using 360mm AIO and my CPU temp is good. Max load while on PBO + auto overclocking was only 72C. Hence the PBO is definitely not limited by the temp.

Any sifu here can confirm whether PBO is broken for B450 chipset with latest microcode?
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not sure on b450 bro but your scenario pretty much d same on my x470 carbon. single core boost might be tied to the trifectors, namely PPT, TDC & EDC. i admire ya setup bro, i have same cooling as yours & a 3600, d chip cant manual oc for its life. even @ 3.9GHz i need a whopping 1.45v & that's not AVX stable. temp can even reach till boiling point as well @ 3.9GHz. if i were u, i'd stick to your current setting @ 4.2Ghz, with some tweak on CNQ and/or adaptive voltage. 4.2Ghz w/ 1.4v with that kinda temp is pretty good to my book already. notworthy.gif
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pbo is pretty much broken across platforms, that's not limited to b450

if you're fancy to OC at this moment, do auto oc only.

actually if I were you, at this moment I would simply adjust PPT, TDC's, and EDC's.

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QUOTE(hypermax @ Aug 19 2019, 11:44 PM)
I have just built a rig with Ryzen 5 3600 with B450 Strix-F. On latest bios 2605 (Aegesa 1003 ab). All core boost clock (PBO + auto overclocking) is only 3950Mhz during CPU-Z stress test and Aida64 stability test. single core boost also never goes beyond 4100Mhz. However i can manual overclock to all core boost clock of 4200MHz with voltage of 1.4V, Aida64 stable for 30min.

I am using 360mm AIO and my CPU temp is good. Max load while on PBO + auto overclocking was only 72C. Hence the PBO is definitely not limited by the temp.

Any sifu here can confirm whether PBO is broken for B450 chipset with latest microcode?
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From reddit it seems PBO is still broken on ASUS B450.
Not sure if other vendors managed to fix it or not though.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/chfl3...ing_ryzen_3000/

Btw, curious how come some users managed to get PBO worked?!
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The PBO + Auto OC definitely works well with my 3600. I'm now hitting an all core boost between 4.25GHz and 4.3GHz during gaming and a single core boost of 4.4GHz. Before enabling PBO + Auto OC i was capped at 4.1GHz.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cdabj...wk_pbo_testing/

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QUOTE(nrw @ Aug 20 2019, 12:12 PM)
pbo is pretty much broken across platforms, that's not limited to b450

if you're fancy to OC at this moment, do auto oc only.

actually if I were you, at this moment I would simply adjust PPT, TDC's, and EDC's.
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Auto OC yielded same result for me. So gonna stick to manual overclock at this stage

Gonna try to downgrade to previous bios with aegesa 1002. I heard PBO is better on that version

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pretty much max freq can be squeezed out from d x470 + CJR... smile.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 21 2019, 04:50 PM)
pretty much max freq can be squeezed out from d x470 + CJR...  smile.gif

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Even though I hate mem (benchs) on settings that are far from being stable for long term that's a pretty good 2666 rated kit you got there despite your timings are suffering big time to achieve the frequency.
That cpu however o.O 4.125GHz with 1.456V … damn. Mines doing 4.225 more with 1.415 (AVX ST) (which translates to 1674 mc cb in r15)
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QUOTE(nrw @ Aug 22 2019, 12:14 AM)
Even though I hate mem (benchs) on settings that are far from being stable for long term that's a pretty good 2666 rated kit you got there despite your timings are suffering big time to achieve the frequency.
That cpu however o.O 4.125GHz with 1.456V … damn. Mines doing 4.225 more with 1.415 (AVX ST) (which translates to 1674 mc cb in r15)
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agreed, 32m would be d very basic memory stability test. Whack d setup with even tm5 i see errors with a min. I would say ram mileage on ryzen 3K is very2 forgiving, especially on itx boards (if bios/agesa done rite). Thing is anything above 1:1 (3733) is pretty much pointless, running ram above d mentioned frequency is really for d sake of fun/exploring d mileage only. smile.gif

CPU OC is pretty much stock or nothing. I gave up wholeheartedly. As long as it runs am grateful enuf already... Such a big big lemon i must say... biggrin.gif




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itx managed to push d ram a lil bit further... tongue.gif

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pretty close to B Die mileage albeit d laxer timing... sweat.gif

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one stable light overclock on my small ryzen system then blush.gif

3600 @4.125Ghz, 1.344V (no lcc so its @1.31 after vdroop)
B450 Tomahawk
2x16GB E-Die 1:1 FCLK, 3800, 16-19-16-38

solid cpu but far from outstanding. maxes out at 4.225 @1.39 with llc. I like my system silent and more efficient however.

E-dies as expected, tRCDRD and tRFC (a bit) higher than what one would see using B-dies. other than that it's on par with 'regular' binned B-dies.

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QUOTE(nrw @ Sep 1 2019, 02:44 AM)
one stable light overclock on my small ryzen system then  blush.gif

3600 @4.125Ghz, 1.344V (no lcc so its @1.31 after vdroop)
B450 Tomahawk
2x16GB E-Die 1:1 FCLK, 3800, 16-19-16-38

solid cpu but far from outstanding. maxes out at 4.225 @1.39 with llc. I like my system silent and more efficient however.

E-dies as expected, tRCDRD and tRFC (a bit) higher than what one would see using B-dies. other than that it's on par with 'regular' binned B-dies.
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Karhu 10000% passed at 3800 16-19-16-38-56?
Mind sharing your ss?
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 1 2019, 06:38 PM)
Karhu 10000% passed at 3800 16-19-16-38-56?
Mind sharing your ss?
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didn't ss that, I'll run over night again n share, np

can just give you the log for now
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[2019-08-27T00:54:55.7314524+08:00] Started testing 27181 MB with 12 thread(s).
[2019-08-27T08:02:08.8908140+08:00] Stopped testing after 0:07:07:13 with 11247 % coverage and 0 error(s).


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ah_khoo still busy oc ~!
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 1 2019, 06:38 PM)
Karhu 10000% passed at 3800 16-19-16-38-56?
Mind sharing your ss?
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morning, there you go

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really calm around here laugh.gif

-> question:
anyone running his b-die kit on 3733/3800 c14 stable?

Gonna try coming weekend. Unfortunately my 3700x (unlike my 3600) doesn't do 3800 on 1:1 so I am eying 3733 14-15-14-35-42 for now, maybe can drop ras a bit. should drop latency to or slightly below 65.
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 2 2019, 04:29 AM)
ah_khoo still busy oc ~!
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not really lah bro, just doing some meaningless mileage test... sweat.gif

QUOTE(nrw @ Sep 2 2019, 05:18 AM)
morning, there you go
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very2 nice timing & frequency considerin they are more of budget sticks (correct me if i'm wrong) bro... notworthy.gif

QUOTE(nrw @ Sep 3 2019, 11:22 AM)
really calm around here  laugh.gif

-> question:
anyone running his b-die kit on 3733/3800 c14 stable?

Gonna try coming weekend. Unfortunately my 3700x (unlike my 3600) doesn't do 3800 on 1:1 so I am eying 3733 14-15-14-35-42 for now, maybe can drop ras a bit. should drop latency to or slightly below 65.
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if ur referrin to 32GB kit, i believe it's close to 0 here (from observation). as for 16GB, pls wait for bro owi... results comin pretty soon i guess... thumbup.gif

latest bios on x470 gaming pro carbon seemed pretty decent... 4200Mhz on CJR that did 4400 on itx board... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Sep 3 2019, 01:59 PM)
very2 nice timing & frequency considerin they are more of budget sticks (correct me if i'm wrong) bro...  notworthy.gif
if ur referrin to 32GB kit, i believe it's close to 0 here (from observation). as for 16GB, pls wait for bro owi... results comin pretty soon i guess...  thumbup.gif
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yup, it's def. a better than average set I got there.for just slightly over RM800 for 32GB with these capabilities is a steal.
if I didn't have some very nice b-die kits I would keep them for sure.

let's see what your sr b-dies can do biggrin.gif
I have a sr hyperx 4000c19 rated kits here which are OK.
soon will get back my 3200c14 g.skill ones, despite having only used those on intel some time back they should be better... lets see
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QUOTE(nrw @ Sep 3 2019, 02:39 PM)
yup, it's def. a better than average set I got there.for just slightly over RM800 for 32GB with these capabilities is a steal.
if I didn't have some very nice b-die kits I would keep them for sure.

let's see what your sr b-dies can do  biggrin.gif
I have a sr hyperx 4000c19 rated kits here which are OK.
soon will get back my 3200c14 g.skill ones, despite having only used those on intel some time back they should be better... lets see
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unfortunately i have no bdie with me nemore, that was a loan set from my friend. bye.gif

cjr while pretty decent in mileage (pardon d lax timing ofcourse) is very2 challengin to be tamed @ HCI... i dont have d time & patience to HCI @ high frequency i afraid. 32M is d furthest i can go but it really means nothing for total stability. sad.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Sep 3 2019, 02:52 PM)
unfortunately i have no bdie with me nemore, that was a loan set from my friend.  bye.gif

cjr while pretty decent in mileage (pardon d lax timing ofcourse) is very2 challengin to be tamed @ HCI... i dont have d time & patience to HCI @ high frequency i afraid. 32M is d furthest i can go but it really means nothing for total stability.  sad.gif
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testing memory is pain in the a$$ laugh.gif
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Samsung started selling a-dies ddr4 32gb today. 10nm class3 (1z 12nm), 16GBit/chip, rated 2933 cl21. Doubt they will be any good for OC but we shall see.

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QUOTE(nrw @ Sep 9 2019, 07:34 PM)
Samsung started selling a-dies ddr4 32gb today. 10nm, 16GBit/chip, rated 2933 cl21. Doubt they will be any good for OC but we shall see.
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B-die is 2666 CL19, pretty much the same true latency but less bandwidth.

2666 CL19: 2000/2666*19 = 14.25ns
2933 CL21: 2000/2933*21 = 14.32ns

Ya, curious about A-die's OCbility vs B-die.
We gonna wait and see later... biggrin.gif



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