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post Apr 2 2019, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 2 2019, 10:20 AM)
DDR4 3666 @ CL14 is very2 impressive already bro, i'd be dead happy if 3600 is doable on full fledged ATX board. hopefully DDR4 4000 for 24/7 is doable on next gen...  smile.gif
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Right now I don't have any 4dimm board after I sold off my C7HW last time. I think DDR4 3600 for 24/7 maybe possible with the current AGESA BIOS. I just don't have the board to play again.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 2 2019, 11:30 AM)
Right now I don't have any 4dimm board after I sold off my C7HW last time. I think DDR4 3600 for 24/7 maybe possible with the current AGESA BIOS. I just don't have the board to play again.
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on contrary i have 4dimm board but i have no ram & imc able to sustain such frequency... laugh.gif

will try out some junk yards stuff see whether it's doable... kinda regret sellin off d sniper x liao... for Hynix i think CJR is d safest bet to reach 3600... AFR need those specially binned one, MFR just managed to try once (KLEVV Bolt) but result aint really encouraging back then. mebe user problem... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 2 2019, 01:38 PM)
on contrary i have 4dimm board but i have no ram & imc able to sustain such frequency...  laugh.gif

will try out some junk yards stuff see whether it's doable... kinda regret sellin off d sniper x liao... for Hynix i think CJR is d safest bet to reach 3600... AFR need those specially binned one, MFR just managed to try once (KLEVV Bolt) but result aint really encouraging back then. mebe user problem...  sweat.gif
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Some CJR OC results from GeIL guy, not sure if he has pushed it to the limit. innocent.gif

D4-3466 8GBx2 CL18-19-19-42 1.35V PASS!
D4-3466 8GBx2 CL16-19-19-42 1.35V PASS!
MB: ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X

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post Apr 7 2019, 10:52 AM

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Weekend testing overclocked 2600X on air (stock cooler) vs custom liquid cooling.
P95 1344K AVX with 90%+ RAM tested for 30 minutes.

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Stock cooler: 4.025GHz @ 1.35v LLC5 (highest) => max 92.6C (95C is temp limit for 2600X)
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Custom WC: 4.025GHz @ 1.35v LLC5 (highest) => max 63.5C
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Custom WC: 4.20GHz @ 1.4125v LLC5 (highest) => max 69.5C

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* ignore the vCore reading on CPU-Z, HWiNFO64's SIV2 sensor is more accurate.

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post Apr 9 2019, 12:07 AM

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I think I've found the key for DDR4-3733 stability, it's the CAD 20-30-20-20 that makes everything stable even at lower voltages.

owikh84 | ASUS ROG Strix B450-I Gaming | G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-4266 CL19 (Samsung B-die) 2x8GB | DDR4-3733 CL16-17-17-40-1T @ 1.450V | vSOC @ 1.150V
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At this clock I think might still be able to reduce the voltages, or tighten the RAM timings to improve the efficiency. Stay tuned for more... biggrin.gif

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Tighten the RAM timings a bit as per DRAM Calculator with additional voltages. biggrin.gif

owikh84 | ASUS ROG Strix B450-I Gaming | G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-4266 CL19 (Samsung B-die) 2x8GB | DDR4-3733 CL14-15-14-34-1T @ 1.480V | vSOC @ 1.175V
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 10 2019, 11:02 PM)
Tighten the RAM timings a bit as per DRAM Calculator with additional voltages. biggrin.gif

owikh84 | ASUS ROG Strix B450-I Gaming | G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-4266 CL19 (Samsung B-die) 2x8GB | DDR4-3733 CL14-15-14-34-1T @ 1.480V | vSOC @ 1.175V
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Some said Samsung B-die can tolerate high voltage.
But I still find 1.48v on DDR4 is too high.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Apr 11 2019, 01:09 PM)
Some said Samsung B-die can tolerate high voltage.
But I still find 1.48v on DDR4 is too high.
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1.48v is still okay.
Look at those DDR4-4600+ b-die kits that are officially rated at 1.50v: http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-4800c18d-16gtrs
In fact B-die like old Samsung chips can hold up to 2.0v on air.
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Apparently HCl Memtest needs more juices to stabilize and I also made some changes on the RAM subtimings especially the CADs and Rtt settings.

owikh84 | ASUS ROG Strix B450-I Gaming | G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-4266 CL19 (Samsung B-die) 2x8GB | DDR4-3733 CL14-15-14-34-1T @ 1.490V | vSOC @ 1.1875V
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Next would be DDR4-3800, hopefully biggrin.gif
Update: TM5 is not stable with multiple errors almost instantly. Just managed to complete AIDA64 benchmarks.
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Today I proceed testing RAM OC with ADATA XPG Spectrix D80 DDR4-3600 CL17.

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As we all know Ryzen doesn't like odd CAS timing such as CL15, 17, 19 etc. I managed to stabilize the memory at the rated frequency and primary timings with some manual adjustments of subtimings, disablement of GearDown and command rate being set to 2T. Of course, additional voltage is required.

owikh84 | ASUS ROG Strix B450-I Gaming | ADATA XPG Spectrix D80 DDR4-3600 CL17 (Samsung B-die) 2x8GB | DDR4-3600 CL17-18-18-38-2T @ 1.390V | vSOC @ 1.100V
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DDR4-3666 is probably the max stable OC of these particular D80 modules.

owikh84 | ASUS ROG Strix B450-I Gaming | ADATA XPG Spectrix D80 DDR4-3600 CL17 (Samsung B-die) 2x8GB | DDR4-3666 CL16-17-17-28-1T @ 1.480V | vSOC @ 1.125V
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DDR4-3733 is not stable though, no matter how much efforts I had put it just didn't work. Only stable in AIDA64 benchmarks:
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TM5 0.12 v3 config

Download link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17u_...6gJY05peEicbBsQ

* fixed test crash , when a certain cycle there was a shortage of memory
* 2 new test added
* test number 14 was temporarily removed, because there were few situations in which an error was found there
* special config for HEDT with 4 channel mode

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Source: https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-amd-cpus...ml#post27937678
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ah_khoo, I think you missed out these entries biggrin.gif

CPU OC: owikh84 | Ryzen 5 2600X | 4.2GHz | ASUS ROG Strix B450-I | Custom WC > Link

RAM OC: owikh84 | ASUS ROG Strix B450-I Gaming | G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-4266 CL19 (Samsung B-die) 2x8GB | DDR4-3733 CL14-15-14-34-1T @ 1.490V | vSOC @ 1.1875V > Link
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Apr 21 2019, 09:37 AM)
ah_khoo, I think you missed out these entries biggrin.gif

CPU OC: owikh84 | Ryzen 5 2600X | 4.2GHz | ASUS ROG Strix B450-I | Custom WC > Link

RAM OC: owikh84 | ASUS ROG Strix B450-I Gaming | G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-4266 CL19 (Samsung B-die) 2x8GB | DDR4-3733 CL14-15-14-34-1T @ 1.490V | vSOC @ 1.1875V > Link
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done bro, my sincere apologies for missing out on these. notworthy.gif
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quick run with 2600X & X470 gaming pro carbon...

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DRAM Calculator for Ryzen v1.5.0 by 1usmus
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Yuri "1usmus" Bubliy, who practically wrote the book on AMD Ryzen memory overclocking, presents DRAM Calculator for Ryzen v1.5.0, the latest version of the most powerful tool available to help you overclock memory on PCs powered by AMD Ryzen processors. The biggest feature-addition is MEMBench, a new internal memory benchmark that tests performance of your machine's memory sub-system, and can be used to test the stability of your memory overclock. Among the other feature-additions include the "Compare Timings" button, which gives you a side-by-side comparison of your machine's existing settings, with what's possible or the settings you've arrived at using the app.

Motherboards vary by memory slot topology, and DRAM Calculator for Ryzen can now be told what topology your board has, so it can better tune settings such as procODT and RTT. The author also de-cluttered the main screen to improve ease of use. Among the under-the-hood changes are improved SoC voltage prediction for each generation of Ryzen. The main timing calculation and prediction algorithms are improved with the addition of the likes of GDM prediction. Also added is support for 4-DIMM system configurations. A bug in which the imported HTML profiles were automatically assumed to be specific to Samsung b-die mode. A number of minor changes were made, detailed in the change-log below.

Source: TPU

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After playing for few days with low-end mobo from ASUS, I'd say this board is not easy on the RAM clocking.
DDR4-3333 is not stable no matter how much efforts I've put, DDR4-3200 CL14 is the max.

owikh84 | ASUS Prime B450M-K | ADATA XPG Spectrix D80 DDR4-3600 CL17 (Samsung B-die) 2x8GB | DDR4-3200 CL14-14-14-28-1T @ 1.370V | vSOC @ 1.0875V
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ May 16 2019, 07:59 PM)
After playing for few days with low-end mobo from ASUS, I'd say this board is not easy on the RAM clocking.
DDR4-3333 is not stable no matter how much efforts I've put, DDR4-3200 CL14 is the max.

owikh84 | ASUS Prime B450M-K | ADATA XPG Spectrix D80 DDR4-3600 CL17 (Samsung B-die) 2x8GB | DDR4-3200 CL14-14-14-28-1T @ 1.370V | vSOC @ 1.0875V
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Nice setup bro... thumbsup.gif

yeah, asus low-mid range nowadays are quite mediocre... long gone d day like d evo series can actually do very2 decent... for now minimum enthusiast level also need strix, even some strix (noticeably d B series) are severely cut down in term of quality (components as well as ocbility)... sad.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 22 2019, 01:01 PM)
Nice setup bro...  thumbsup.gif

yeah, asus low-mid range nowadays are quite mediocre... long gone d day like d evo series can actually do very2 decent... for now minimum enthusiast level also need strix, even some strix (noticeably d B series) are severely cut down in term of quality (components as well as ocbility)...  sad.gif
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+1 Can't agree more bro.
Based on VRM quality found on overall X470/B450 boards, best to worst would be MSI, ASUS, GIGABYTE, ASRock.
I recently came across one useful VRM quality list to support this claim.

Good
SinoPower SM7341EH (dual) - 1.0 / 1.2 - 25A - +50% - data
NikoSem PK612DZ (dual) - 1.4 / 1.9 - 20A - +90% - data_ext
FairChild FDPC5030 (dual) - 1.9 / 2.4 - 25A - +40% - data_ext - acquired by OnSemi
OnSemi 4C86N (dual) - 1.7 / 2.6 - 30A - +50% - data
Ubiq QN3107 - 2.1 / 2.6 - 30A - +40% - data
TI CSD87350 (dual) - 2.1 / 2.8 - 20A - +30% - data - Vgs.on=4.5V, Vgs.on.max=8V
OnSemi 4C024N - 2.3 / 2.8 - 30A - +50% - data <= most MSI MB use this
SinoPower SM4503 - 2.5 / 3.0 - 20A - +50% - data
NikoSem PK632BA - 2.1 / 3.3 - 20A - +60% - data

Not Bad
NXP PH4030AL - 2.72 / 4.0 - 15A - +50% - data_ext
OnSemi 4C06N - 3.2 / 4.0 - 30A - +50% - data <= most ASUS/GBT MB use this
Vishay SiRA12BDP RA12 - 2.7 / 4.3 - 10A - +40% - data
Vishay SiRA12DP RA12 - 3.2 / 4.3 - 10A - +50% - data_ext

Bad
AdvancedPower AP4024GEMT - 3.5 / 4.5 - 20A - +40% - data
Ubiq QN3054 - 3.8 / 4.8 - 30A - +40% - data
SinoPower SM4336 - 4.4 / 5.3 - 30A - +50% - data <= most ASRock MB use this
NikoSem PK618BA - 3.7 / 5.5 - 20A - +60% - data <= most ASRock MB use this
SinoPower SM4364 - 4.7 / 5.7 - 40A - +50% - data

Source: https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-gene...ml#post27572140

Full VRM list for major MB vendors: https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/p...te-1155146.html

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already predicting with new amd x570 coming in we are going to see alot of ex intel overvoltage ram ocer cry babies with their x570 and 3800x/3900x .. ask why this ram dont work etc etc

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