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 Mazda CX5 Gen 2 Owners Club V2, Kodo: Soul of Motion

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post Jul 20 2018, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jul 20 2018, 10:37 AM)
Correct. IMO it's not worth going for 2.5.

Why? Here's my 2 cents.

1. You gotta pay more road tax than 2.0.
2. You get less power and FC compared to 2.2 D
3. You don't get full safety tech like 2.2D like lane departure assist (LAS), lane departure warning system (LDWS), driver attention alert (DAA) and adaptive front lighting system (AFS)
4. The price difference between 2.5 and 2.2D is very small, yet you are missing out everything
5. FC for 2.5 is not as good as 2.0 if you are driving in city most of the time due to higher cc but stuck in traffic
6. The only good thing is the maintenance and repairing cost is lower than 2.2D but like chinese saying, if you are already paying for the chicken might as well pay for the kicap

So my 2 cents here is that if you want power go for 2.2D. If you drive in city most of the time and don't mind the power, go for 2.0 GLS.
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Nice! thanks for the in depth comparison. You should put it on TS.

As for 2.2D, i dont think I wanted 2.2D. 2.0 is good enough for me. It s a SUV, why we need power on a SUV if it is mostly city drive, just get a high speed sport sedan.

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post Jul 20 2018, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Jul 20 2018, 10:59 AM)
Nice! thanks for the in depth comparison. You should put it on TS.

As for 2.2D, i dont think I wanted 2.2D. 2.0 is good enough for me. It s a SUV, why we need power on a SUV if it is mostly city drive, just get a high speed sport sedan.
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Yea I've included in my first page already.

SUV is heavier than sedan so 2.0 might not give you the zoom zoom power you wanted compared to a 2.0 sedan. That's why some people who wants a SUV and also zoom zoom power will opt for 2.2D laugh.gif
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post Jul 20 2018, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jul 20 2018, 10:04 AM)
Hahaha..M3 M3 M3...eh eh..wrong club.. biggrin.gif
Thank you Duckies

It feel so nice to be in new V2.  brows.gif
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hahaha i know wrong club, CX5 is still parking in the car porch mah, still correct. hehehe
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post Jul 20 2018, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jul 20 2018, 11:05 AM)
Yea I've included in my first page already.

SUV is heavier than sedan so 2.0 might not give you the zoom zoom power you wanted compared to a 2.0 sedan. That's why some people who wants a SUV and also zoom zoom power will opt for 2.2D laugh.gif
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different people have diff need I guess. laugh.gif

Unlike 2.5L, the price gap between 2.0GLS vs 2.2D is there, to make 2.0L worth considering. tongue.gif

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post Jul 20 2018, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Jul 20 2018, 11:10 AM)
different people have diff need I guess.  laugh.gif

Unlike 2.5L, the price gap between 2.0GLS vs 2.2D is there, to make 2.0L worth considering.  tongue.gif
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Yea, that's why putting the Euro 5 diesel availability aside, I will opt for either 2.0 GLS or 2.2D. The rest...can be ignored as I felt it's not worth the price but that's just me sweat.gif

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post Jul 20 2018, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jul 20 2018, 11:06 AM)
hahaha i know wrong club, CX5 is still parking in the car porch mah, still correct. hehehe
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Haahaha...Okok...we can still discuss M3 in here lah i think... brows.gif




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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jul 20 2018, 11:49 AM)
Haahaha...Okok...we can still discuss M3 in here lah i think... brows.gif
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it's mazda and their absorption of GST, SST etc.

but M3 is only coming in 2019, so no need to talk yet la. but thanks to you. otherwise i could have already booked one. haha
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jul 20 2018, 11:52 AM)
it's mazda and their absorption of GST, SST etc.

but M3 is only coming in 2019, so no need to talk yet la. but thanks to you. otherwise i could have already booked one. haha
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You are welcome.

Frankly, I was planing to buy M3 back then, because can't afford to buy CX5 yet...
Went to showroom, see see look look.. All are fine, but found that the back seats have very limited space for a tall guy like me, and my parents too...
But keep telling to myself, "That is a driver's car.. That is a driver's car"

Until one day I switch to a new job...jeng jeng jeng... brows.gif



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post Jul 20 2018, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jul 20 2018, 12:00 PM)
You are welcome.

Frankly, I was planing to buy M3 back then, because can't afford to buy CX5 yet...
Went to showroom, see see look look.. All are fine, but found that the back seats have very limited space for a tall guy like me, and my parents too...
But keep telling to myself, "That is a driver's car.. That is a driver's car"

Until one day I switch to a new job...jeng jeng jeng... brows.gif
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fuuhhh your new job must have been paying you very well with instant update from M3 to CX5......... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

but i find the back space quite ok, maybe i'm short 173cm nia. so is okay...
but the waiting is torturous since i'm carless for now.

don't go too far from CX5, later all scold us for talking about other cars in CX5 tered.


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post Jul 20 2018, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jul 20 2018, 10:37 AM)
Correct. IMO it's not worth going for 2.5.

Why? Here's my 2 cents.

1. You gotta pay more road tax than 2.0.
2. You get less power and FC compared to 2.2 D
3. You don't get full safety tech like 2.2D like lane departure assist (LAS), lane departure warning system (LDWS), driver attention alert (DAA) and adaptive front lighting system (AFS)
4. The price difference between 2.5 and 2.2D is very small, yet you are missing out everything
5. FC for 2.5 is not as good as 2.0 if you are driving in city most of the time due to higher cc but stuck in traffic
6. The only good thing is the maintenance and repairing cost is lower than 2.2D but like chinese saying, if you are already paying for the chicken might as well pay for the kicap

So my 2 cents here is that if you want power go for 2.2D. If you drive in city most of the time and don't mind the power, go for 2.0 GLS.
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Each to their own, there is no replacement to displacement henceforth 2.5 was a more valid choice in my case, after all we pay road tax once a year and additional RM400 too much of a pinch comparative to 2.0. Fuel consumption has been fair so far a full tank gives me approx 580km mostly highways and not many stop and go traffic.

Price is not far off the 2.2D I agree but I am looking forward for ease of use when refiling the tank and I already have a pickup, ease of engine maintenance is a priority. Avoiding another diesel vehicle was a need for me. Otherwise after owning the car for a few months now, I don't miss LAS, LDWS, DAA and what not. BSM is just nice.

On tap I have sufficient power especially on hilly roads, Loving every second driving it and that's what matters

This post has been edited by Bigblock: Jul 20 2018, 12:20 PM
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post Jul 20 2018, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jul 20 2018, 12:15 PM)
fuuhhh your new job must have been paying you very well with instant update from M3 to CX5.........  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

but i find the back space quite ok, maybe i'm short 173cm nia. so is okay...
but the waiting is torturous since i'm carless for now.

don't go too far from CX5, later all scold us for talking about other cars in CX5 tered.
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Haha..actually before that already cukup makan lo, now better... brows.gif

Yaya...nvm la...It is coming with full LCD speedometer somemore (maybe)...worth the wait!!

Hahhaa..okok...enough with M3 liao...
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post Jul 20 2018, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(chuah_ph @ Jul 20 2018, 07:12 AM)
Well say on the differences and agree on 2.5L will be my min requirement too as all mid size and heavy SUV can't handle by 2.0L engine unless is 1.8L or 2.0L turbo. Op for 2.2L turbo and the petrol money you save per mth will be able to cover the extra loan payment or even further reduce it as min can save 1 tank of petrol spending per mth depend on ur usage.
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QUOTE(bat11 @ Jul 20 2018, 08:48 AM)
Hi all CX5er, I am the topic starter for this Mazda CX5 thread. Due to great exchange of experience here. this thread is almost full but I am an amateur, can anybody like to take over and move us to Cx5 club V2? I hope somebody with better knowledge to move this thread to V2 so that we can continue sharing great experience with this GREAT CAR, CX5!!!
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Thanks for initiating V1.. notworthy.gif

QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jul 20 2018, 09:14 AM)
Tagging voncrane, Duckies, kyoshooo, tehoice

Lai lai...please take the role.. brows.gif
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Dah.. Duckies stepped up.. Follow je.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(tehoice @ Jul 20 2018, 09:24 AM)
PPS is a coating ma, am i right?

by the way, how was your claim against Bermaz liao? any update?
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Paint Protection Film is more of wrapping (think tinting material) versus some chemical agent bonding, which is coating.. Different. PPF more durable and long lasting.. IF done right.

Claim ongoing.. Gone higher up and as such.. Don't think it wise that I be discussing much on it publicly.. Well, until the whole thing is over and verdict given.. Safer this way.. smile.gif

QUOTE(Duckies @ Jul 20 2018, 09:29 AM)
Here's the V2 ya. You guys can continue the discussion while I'll slowly develop the front page.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4622065

bat11 Thanks for your hard work so far. You might consider closing this V1 ya smile.gif
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post Jul 20 2018, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jul 20 2018, 10:24 AM)
Btw, if you guys want to be in the Proud Owner List, do state here what's your specs/model and color ya.
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2.2D, Meteor Gray.

QUOTE(Duckies @ Jul 20 2018, 10:37 AM)
Correct. IMO it's not worth going for 2.5.

Why? Here's my 2 cents.

1. You gotta pay more road tax than 2.0.
2. You get less power and FC compared to 2.2 D
3. You don't get full safety tech like 2.2D like lane departure assist (LAS), lane departure warning system (LDWS), driver attention alert (DAA) and adaptive front lighting system (AFS)
4. The price difference between 2.5 and 2.2D is very small, yet you are missing out everything
5. FC for 2.5 is not as good as 2.0 if you are driving in city most of the time due to higher cc but stuck in traffic
6. The only good thing is the maintenance and repairing cost is lower than 2.2D but like chinese saying, if you are already paying for the chicken might as well pay for the kicap

So my 2 cents here is that if you want power go for 2.2D. If you drive in city most of the time and don't mind the power, go for 2.0 GLS.
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Similarly.. But okay la.. Others can want what they want.. Options are always good. Me? I knew I'd regret if i didn't get what will make me fully happy.. So rather than paying so much to have just under what i want? I better pay slightly more to get exactly what i want.. Like you said, purchase price between 2.5 and 2.2D is slim and same with maintenance costs.. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Boldnut @ Jul 20 2018, 11:10 AM)
different people have diff need I guess.  laugh.gif

Unlike 2.5L, the price gap between 2.0GLS vs 2.2D is there, to make 2.0L worth considering.  tongue.gif
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True.. I did tussle between getting either the 2.0Gls or the 2.2D.. But the engine and you may not believe it.. I'm slightly peeved at the rectangular b&w lcd screen on the petrol variants. Seeing the full circle & colored LCD on the diesel makes me smile every time.. wub.gif

QUOTE(Bigblock @ Jul 20 2018, 12:19 PM)
Each to their own, there is no replacement to displacement henceforth 2.5 was a more valid choice in my case, after all we pay road tax once a year and additional RM400 too much of a pinch comparative to 2.0. Fuel consumption has been fair so far a full tank gives me approx 580km mostly highways and not many stop and go traffic.

Price is not far off the 2.2D I agree but I am looking forward for ease of use when refiling the tank and I already have a pickup, ease of engine maintenance is a priority. Avoiding another diesel vehicle was a need for me. Otherwise after owning the car for a few months now, I don't miss LAS, LDWS, DAA and what not. BSM is just nice.

On tap I have sufficient power especially on hilly roads, Loving every second driving it and that's what matters
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Fair and valid points. However, Like HUDs and power delivery.. It's easy to not miss something you aren't already used to.. I didn't miss all these tech earlier and coming from a well-tuned for power delivery FD1. My SO & I are suckers for powerful engines that can move the weight effortlessly especially uphills. We stay in KL city center and have driven North & South and each time, there's always some Euro 5 station to pump from. Having a range of 700KM+ eases the mind. Our specs is even more limited as I got a lot of cheaper Petronas gift cards and so have to spend at Petronas stations.. Still a non-issue. So getting Euro 5 is a non-issue for me. Lastly, LKAS and LDW are useful as it:
1. Makes the driving even more effortless as the vehicle intelligently tries to always follow the racing line once it detects both lanes lines.
2. Don't intend for this but who knows.. Safe from micro-sleep induced accidents. I've tested this within the city and on highway.. i.e. Right-most lane, The car actively steers away from the barriers on the right and the line on the left.. Even around corners..
Anyways, as you've pointed out.. Can I drive properly without all these and still enjoy the car? heck yeah, but instead.. i figured, been driving previous car almost a decade. Long overdue to experience the better tech.

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post Jul 20 2018, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Jul 20 2018, 12:19 PM)
Each to their own, there is no replacement to displacement henceforth 2.5 was a more valid choice in my case, after all we pay road tax once a year and additional RM400 too much of a pinch comparative to 2.0. Fuel consumption has been fair so far a full tank gives me approx 580km mostly highways and not many stop and go traffic.

Price is not far off the 2.2D I agree but I am looking forward for ease of use when refiling the tank and I already have a pickup, ease of engine maintenance is a priority. Avoiding another diesel vehicle was a need for me. Otherwise after owning the car for a few months now, I don't miss LAS, LDWS, DAA and what not. BSM is just nice.

On tap I have sufficient power especially on hilly roads, Loving every second driving it and that's what matters
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Fair point, each to owns preferences and needs.

QUOTE(voncrane @ Jul 20 2018, 01:40 PM)
2.2D, Meteor Gray.
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post Jul 20 2018, 01:50 PM

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Hi Duckies, Please check your mail box, i've sent you a list of links, list of Petrol Station providing Euro5 diesel...
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jul 20 2018, 01:50 PM)
Hi Duckies, Please check your mail box, i've sent you a list of links, list of Petrol Station providing Euro5 diesel...
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Okay, got it. Updated the first page.
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Jul 20 2018, 01:52 PM)
Okay, got it. Updated the first page.
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Thank you. icon_rolleyes.gif

That would be helpful for our 2.2d club members! nod.gif
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Thanks guys for your kind inputs as well, Congrats Duckies long overdue for a better page in lyn. My car lies at home most of the time but recently I have been using it quite frequently. Can't take the skytint anymore, any suggestions? I'm sure its discussed many times but i'l like to ask the new owners as prices vary time to location.
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jul 20 2018, 01:54 PM)
Thank you.  icon_rolleyes.gif

That would be helpful for our 2.2d club members!  nod.gif
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Yasss!.. I use those lists too.. With Google Maps/Waze.. Can plot along route, if to pump before, during or after a long distance drive.. Either works.. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 20 2018, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Jul 20 2018, 02:01 PM)
Thanks guys for your kind inputs as well, Congrats Duckies long overdue for a better page in lyn. My car lies at home most of the time but recently I have been using it quite frequently. Can't take the skytint anymore, any suggestions? I'm sure its discussed many times but i'l like to ask the new owners as prices vary time to location.
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It'll up to how much budget are you gonna allocate.

I am on a tight budget so I added an extra layer of Canny Cool tint on the front windscreen. Cheap and good and come with 15 years warranty. The rear and side tint so far still acceptable to me.

If you have the budget can always replace everything with V-Kool, 3M, Raytech and Huper Optik. Huper Optik should be cheaper among all. Should cost about 1.5-2.5k depending on tint specs.


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